Who says war is fair?

My clan is ALWAYS out leveled by TH, however that is because none of us have a rushed base.

Matchmaking is not perfect but it works most of the time.

well it's not perfect....

nothing we can do, there are winners there are losers (with occasional Draws)

anyway, can you find strategy games that has a better War Matchmaking than clash?

If yes, move there :p

the game saw you were a TH10 with only 38 level 9 walls and wanted to punish you

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Originally Posted by MellowsDad

Not I!

our combined bk level... 199
Our combined aq level... 188

opposing team combined bk level... 328
opposing team combined aq level... 436

before anyone says it's based on more than hero levels, let me enlighten you that if your heros are that advanced so is your base and troops...

between poor loot and unfair war match ups, this game has become a lot less fun!

thanks SC

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Originally Posted by MellowsDad

Your response is asinine and has nothing to do with the OP, where did i question skills or play styles? I questioned how such mis-matching can take place. It isn't about being completely fair, it's about being remotely fair.

your holier than thou comment was also truely appreciated!

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Originally Posted by Lloopy14

It's not just whiners... Its people being rude to others and not considering that they have a point.

I didn't read that the OP wanted things to be easy. I read it that he wanted the to be fair.

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Yes and sometimes you get rude whiners too, and what a spectacular combination that is.

Has the OP complained about how unfair match ups are when his clan gets an easy match up? If he has then I retract my statement (whatever that is worth on the internet...) I guess if Bad loot, Unfair match up = not fun anymore then it must have only been fun when things were easier. All the little things add up.

Read a bit deeper into things.

And pray tell what is the OP alluding to that hasn't already been discussed to death? Haven't we been through enough of these threads to know:

• That it is widespread
• The system is not perfect and cannot be perfect because the amount of variables involved in getting a "fair match up"

So use some coping mechanisms like:

• Attack it like you normally would
• Use it as a practice
• Learn from it
• Ignore it and do something else like farm/push/play hay day

and if you can't be bothered to up skill yourself on perceived harder opponents then:

• Restart war search after 5 mins
• Do your war search at a time when you aren't going to draw Asian War clans
• Get some lower TH's to lower your war average

So many of these have been suggested in the past and all the OP can do is complain... seriously. What point has the OP brought to the table that hasn't been discussed to death?

Look at real life, wars are almost never fair. Suck it up.

Obviously coming here to express my concern (whine) was wrong, i apologise.

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Originally Posted by mrscribbler

Second, hero levels may be the easiest way, but it's certainly not the most effective. Their heroes may be upgrading (in which case I believe they're not counted) or 1 level short of the next ability, so th level and defense level (which you've somewhat provided) as well as troop strength are far better for measuring strength.

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This was the most helpful part of the thread, i did not take into account that 20 of them could have heros upgrading, I did not consider that option, thank you.

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Originally Posted by MrScribbler

Ok, first: using words you don't know how to spell really diminishes others' view of your argument (fair or not, just letting you know).

Originally Posted by MellowsDad
Our last three wars have been like this with their top player having maxed heros and overall their bases being far superior. This latest was just the straw, that made me waste my time and effort counting hero levels as this was the easiest way to see the difference between clans.


I look forward to pillaging some other clan in the near future as you elude to.

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please show me the errors of my ways again as I can not seem to find the spelling error....

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Originally Posted by JKL2207

Yes and sometimes you get rude whiners too, and what a spectacular combination that is.

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responding to an original attack makes me rude! possibly you believe your OP was more sly?

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Originally Posted by JKL2207

So many of these have been suggested in the past and all the OP can do is complain... seriously. What point has the OP brought to the table that hasn't been discussed to death?

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Having to read through threads over and over on a video game... First world problems...

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Originally Posted by JKL2207

Has the OP complained about how unfair match ups are when his clan gets an easy match up? If he has then I retract my statement .....,,,
guess if Bad loot, Unfair match up = not fun anymore then it must have only been fun when things were easier. All the little things add up.

And pray tell what is the OP alluding to that hasn't already been discussed to death? Haven't we been through enough of these threads to know:

• That it is widespread
• The system is not perfect and cannot be perfect because the amount of variables involved in getting a "fair match up"

So use some coping mechanisms like:

• Attack it like you normally would
• Use it as a practice
• Learn from it
• Ignore it and do something else like farm/push/play hay day

and if you can't be bothered to up skill yourself on perceived harder opponents then:

• Restart war search after 5 mins
• Do your war search at a time when you aren't going to draw Asian War clans
• Get some lower TH's to lower your war average

So many of these have been suggested in the past and all the OP can do is complain... seriously. What point has the OP brought to the table that hasn't been discussed to death?

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It doesnt matter if this has been done to death or not. Wasn't there a was a quote in this thread where it was stated that Supercell tinker with the matchmaking to improve when they do updates?If they do people should be able to say that it isnt working. If it is wide spread then supercell need to work on making the system fairer.

In the OP there is not much to go on for you to assume that your attempts to fix the system will work in his case.

I am part of an international clan. We have chosen the time that suits most people in the clan.

I'm not sure what the assumption behind the Asian clan comment... So I will ignore it.

We have a range of TH levels in the clan. It hasnt skewed the matcaking in out favour with regard to the highest TH levels. Occasionally at the bottom we have had some fairer matches.

Looking 'deeper' and beyond the facts presented does not help your case. You have presented an arguement on a basis that may not be valid. I didnt see the comment by the OP that he hasnt been matched up with a clan that is of a lower level than himself.

Some of the comments feel quite personal - the use of 'you' leaves me with the impression that you are aiming those 'tips' at me. And im not quite sure why.

If you are referring to my comment on my current war we do have two TH10s in the opposing clan. Nobody has been matched with the TH 10's as both me and the top player are only TH9.

There is an inherent flaw in the system where you can be matched by base strength and yet nobody in my clan is recommended to attack two of their players.

And before you start with 'and if you can't be bothered to up skill yourself on perceived harder opponents'

Both me and the second person took on the TH10s and two starred them.

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Originally Posted by MellowsDad

Our last three wars have been like this with their top player having maxed heros and overall their bases being far superior. This latest was just the straw, that made me waste my time and effort counting hero levels as this was the easiest way to see the difference between clans.

I look forward to pillaging some other clan in the near future as you elude to.

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Originally Posted by MellowsDad

This was the most helpful part of the thread, i did not take into account that 20 of them could have heros upgrading, I did not consider that option, thank you.

please show me the errors of my ways again as I can not seem to find the spelling error....

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"Heroes" is spelled incorrectly.

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Originally Posted by Lloopy14

If you are referring to my comment on my current war we do have two TH10s in the opposing clan. Nobody has been matched with the TH 10's as both me and the top player are only TH9.

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Recommended target means nothing... SC should simply remove this concept and create a real concept of strategy map which leaders and colead could use during preparation phase to define who should attack who

In our last CW, my personal position was number 3. My recommended target was our opponent's position 18 (don't ask me why). I decided to go for their number 1 and did 2-star it (unfortunately has both heroes upgrading, might have been able to 3-star him with heroes).