"Loot problem" in TH10 and league bonuses.

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Originally Posted by 4rcanine

You said you were nexting in Crystal? Not the same.

I feel no matter how much evidence I provide of good loot or alternative ways to get it, people have this "loot problem" so fixed in their mind they can't be persuaded.

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i was about 70 cups from masters, plus the raids you posted weren't in masters (you were in one, but not your target). I think you're starting to show your real motivation with this last comment. You weren't so much asking a question as you were trying to make a point. I still say it's too difficult to BARCH in that range and STAY in that range. You posted two 50% one star wins and dropping one league which was really my point. You say it's because you wanted to upgrade heros. I say you would have had trouble staying there regardless. Whatever ... I think we're done.

I do the same thing masters. The loot is hit and miss, but man sometimes it is great. Its pretty easy for a decent TH10 to farm there without much loss on defense.

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Originally Posted by Wendle

i was about 70 cups from masters, plus the raids you posted weren't in masters (you were in one, but not your target). I think you're starting to show your real motivation with this last comment. You weren't so much asking a question as you were trying to make a point. I still say it's too difficult to BARCH in that range and STAY in that range. You posted two 50% one star wins and dropping one league which was really my point. You say it's because you wanted to upgrade heros. I say you would have had trouble staying there regardless. Whatever ... I think we're done.

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I am telling you, you ARE wrong.

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?hl=e...+barch+masters

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Originally Posted by 4rcanine

I am telling you, you ARE wrong.

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?hl=e...+barch+masters

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Ok, peace. Out of curiosity are you in Australia? That may explain the completely different loot experience. Some people come on to agitate of course, but there are enough "loot is bad" and "loot is fine" folk to make me believe that everyone is not having the same game experiences.

I am. Whys that?

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Originally Posted by Wendle

Ok, peace. Out of curiosity are you in Australia? That may explain the completely different loot experience. Some people come on to agitate of course, but there are enough "loot is bad" and "loot is fine" folk to make me believe that everyone is not having the same game experiences.

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Thought I'd chip in. I'm 5-6 weeks into TH9 and about 2-3 weeks ago I pushed to M3 to check out the updated league bonuses and try to farm there. Only my giants were lv 6 at the time, barch was still lv 5. I currently have both heroes going to lv 13 and 14, with 210 legos and 4 lavas to give you an idea of how much I farm.

In general I found it quite difficult to barch for 50% on most bases past C1, and by barch I do mean purely barch (no heroes, no reliance on spells/CC). After all, if the intention is to farm in M3 then I can't be reliant on heroes/CC/spells. So I ended up sniping most of the time to get to M3.

At M3, my experience was very similar to gorzo's. Occasionally I'd find a collector base which was usually 250-300k of each and a good amount of DE (excluding the league bonus), but most of the time I'd have to use spells/CC to get 50%. Maintaining trophies was also very tiring, and there were times when I'd spend over 200k (30-40mins searching) without finding an open TH or inactive. Therefore after spending close to a week at M3 I decided to drop back down to crystal. Now that my barch is lv 6 I might consider going back up to try again, though I still feel barching active bases without heroes (as they are on constant upgrade) is still rather risky, and you'd really have to win every time to make a decent amount of loot compared to lower leagues.

Oh and BTW, I'm from Australia.

@OP: I personally wouldn't consider it efficient farming if you had to rely on heroes (as you mentioned yourself), simply because you have 5 months of hero upgrade time at TH9 if you upgrade both at the same time. Also the main benefit of higher leagues is the increased DE available. Of course your main argument was that it could be feasible for a TH10, but I think you might be exaggerating how easy it is for a TH9 to do it, seeing as how you did seem to rely on spells/CC/heroes quite a lot which will limit your farming with a quick army like barch.

+1 to everything you said except that there's plenty of videos on YouTube of TH10s doing it purely with barch.

As a th 10 who's been farming with balloonion in master 2 for about the past 6 months, I see enough fairly easy bases that any decent th 10 barcher would have no problem picking up the league bonus 99% of the time if they're attacking solely the bases they're confident on (with minimal use of spells/heroes to boot). That said, those easy bases, for the most part, have virtually no resources, so you'd be getting perhaps 150k/150k/850 on average each attack. If that's enough for you, great, go for it.

I would like to add a caveat, however: that 99% figure is only if you're attacking the easiest bases, so add in an average of 25 nexts or so to your costs. Furthermore, it is quite difficult to stay disciplined enough to only attack the easiest bases. Using balloonion, which is generally somewhat stronger than barch depending on the base, I mostly lose attacks when I see a lot of loot that I can get, but in a base I can't get 50% on. Depending on your trophy situation (which is based quite a bit on defense too), it may be profitable to get some sizable hits without the bonus, but doing that may make maintaining your trophies quite difficult.

Balloonians is not, and has never been cost effective.

It's likely to be more cost effective to run 240 Lvl7 Archers and 5 Lightning spells as the build time is around the same if you boost the spells. Also, it cost no DE either.

All these screenshots of you barching in masters making over 200-300 loot is pointless. You are a TH9 trying to speak from a TH10 perspective. Try barch in masters as a TH10, the loot is worse than what you (a TH9) can see. Dont get me wrong, I barch in masters for the league bonus.

Also, you have used spells a few times which reduces the efficiency of barching.