Forum Project: 'Sneak peek proposal'

Hiya everyone,

I always had some ideas about what could be in an update but was reluctant to post them here. However, I wanted to know what everyone would think about them and what you would do. Maybe we can all chip in on the base thoughts/ideas I am putting forward so we can improve the overall "proposal". Some aspects people might not agree with, but I hope we can make this constructive 'proposalcrafting'. I also refuse to respond to anyone not being constructive, with all due respect.

Yes, some parts might never happen and might be considered mildly unrealistic. I just hope these come out in the near future, and as far I recall dreaming is not prohibited.

Finally, an excuse to the mods if this belongs in Creativity. I considered Creativity and General but came to the conclusion to put it in General as the goal of this thread is to come to a "sneak peek proposal" for Supercell. If you disagree, I understand and thank you for moving it! I also understand there are tons of other threads regarding this issue, but those never had a couple of nice thoughts/ideas to start the discussion off, hence me starting a new thread.

Enough talking, here are my thoughts:

The Lavahound Has Increased Damage And Health


The Lavahound decided to start working out more as it is outmatched by the fireworks it has been going after, while it's ground counterpart does not have these fireworks against him. As a result the lavahound has a hp increase!


Forum exclusive: the Archer Queen is now up to date with the playbook and will be more focused on defenses than walls! Archer Queen AI improvements coming!




Defense Is Rewarded


Do you wonder why you are actually playing this game as you have no intention to go cuphunting after you maxed? No worries! From now on your defensive wins will be rewarded with 75% of your league bonus! If you lose, you will not gain anything but triggered traps, empty x-bows and inferno towers.


Forum exclusive: the price of the valkyries has been reduced to 100 dark elixir.




Goblin Maps Are Seasonal


Chief, the goblins are returning. They will now be trying to take your resources every season! Goblin maps will be "refilled" every season as a "seasonly". [Potentially monthly but then the Goblin Infestation Control achievement needs to be revisited.]


Forum exclusive: level 3 witches. [UNDER REVIEW]


New Achievements
- Royalistic: level 20 royals (1 star), level 30 royals (2 stars) and level 40 royals (3 stars)
- Royal Assassin: destroy 250 altars (1 star), 500 altars (2 stars) and 1000 altars (3 stars)
- Clan Turmoil: destroy 100 clan castles (1 star), 250 clan castles (2 stars) and 500 clan castles (3 stars)
- Goblin Infestation Control: do the seasonal goblin maps 10 times (1 star), 50 times (2 stars) and 100 times (3 stars)


Forum exclusive: War search will now take war wins and war losses in account! [UNDER REVIEW] [The goal is to replace this with something not manipulatable but taking into account the status of a clan, so people don't get outmatched but people actually war against their equals, which is not only base strength.]




Other Tweaks:
- Lower spell costs and time
- Boosting all mines/pumps/drills at once costs now 60/60/75 gems instead of 70/70/90 gems. Boosting one mine/pump/drill will remain 10/10/30 gems.
- Boosting all baracks/dark barracks wat once costs now 30/15 gems instead of 40/20 gems. Boosting one barrack/dark barrack will remain 10/10 gems.


(No art as I am horrendous with art, I also want the ideas to be emphasized.)

I would LOVE constructive feedback with thought out ideas and which have a nice basis. Let's put our ideas/thoughts together and come to a nice "sneak peek proposal". This a rough draft, anything can be added, taken out or changed!

Let the crowdsourcing beging and let's keep it civil!

Thanks for everyone reading and/or commenting and contributing to this thread and proposal!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

Lava hounds were never meant to take out air defenses. They simply go toward them, to get to the center of the base, in order to distract the defenses long enough, for your other troops to do the same.

I do like the idea of defensive rewards. However, instead of loot, I would simply prefer for a successful defense to reset my traps and reload defensive ammo, automatically, at no charge.

It takes more than two weeks for most people to finish the goblin missions. Resetting them every season would mean that most people would never see the end.

War wins do not, nor should not, count in war matchmaking. Otherwise, a clan could simply disband and reform every so often, to avoid the clans with a lot of wins. In other words, it's too easily manipulated.

First off hounds DO NOT need more dps, theyre a tank not dps. But health boost wouldnt be frowned upon:cool: Oh and goodluck on the queen, just for your suggest she will officially have a favorite target of "walls, all of them"

Now defense bonus is something i think needs to happen lol, and hey i love my red headed stepchild so paying less for child support is always good in my book

Always wondered why there wasn't more goblin villages to attack, the reset would be nice and very much appreciated maybe even at less loot i dont care just could use some extra loot. Um sorry i think lvl3 witches would end up being too OP as that many skeletons would just be obnoxious

Ah yes more achievements please, and i like that you picked hard ones at that, give us something to work for. Ive always been a quest kind of guy rather than a grind person. Sorry dont war enough to comment.

we dont need lower spell costs, just need them to cost gold again, the time however would be nice.
yes, please do discount slightly for boosting all at once i wondered why this wasn't the case when they added the feature but i guess it was to make us dream.

all around nice suggestions, i think this may actually belong in the ideas/request section.

P.S. Would like to add healers should be multi target already, might need to weaken the healing per second though to combat it being OP.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

Lava hounds were never meant to take out air defenses. They simply go toward them, to get to the center of the base, in order to distract the defenses long enough, for your other troops to do the same.

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Hiya, thank you for responding!

I do agree with the fact lava hounds are mainly a distraction. So are golems in GoWiWi and GoWiPe. The difference is the following: golems have cannons (64 dps) against them which hounds do not while hounds have airdefence against them (240 dps). Nevertheless their dps is lower and the hp of maxed hounds and golems is identical. I hope that clarifies my point a bit.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

I do like the idea of defensive rewards. However, instead of loot, I would simply prefer for a successful defense to reset my traps and reload defensive ammo, automatically, at no charge.

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Yes, but I have a feeling that doesn't give much freedom. If I get attacked and win once, that's fine as one attack leads to one rearm and reload. But if you win more than once, you don't gain anything. The loot gained can be used to rearm and reload as well but gives you the freedom to chose what to spend it on and gives you the incentive to win multiple defenses. Townhalls on the outside will also be as common as today because winning won't change anything for them (trap etc. don't get used).

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

It takes more than two weeks for most people to finish the goblin missions. Resetting them every season would mean that most people would never see the end.

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As I am one of the people convinced the loot problem isn't a loot problem but a loot injection problem. Seasonal goblin missions will make that possible. The incentive is loot and the achievement, but there are no repercussions for not doing goblin missions. You can only gain, not lose. On top, most of these can be done with loonions.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

War wins do not, nor should not, count in war matchmaking. Otherwise, a clan could simply disband and reform every so often, to avoid the clans with a lot of wins. In other words, it's too easily manipulated.

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Fair point, it can potentially be manipulated. Do you have any ideas to factor in skills? Some clans have people with highlevel bases with no heavy army skills, while others might have never farmed but can use the highlevel armies with an extraordinary amount of skills. Would love your ideas on that!

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

First off hounds DO NOT need more dps, theyre a tank not dps. But health boost wouldnt be frowned upon:cool: Oh and goodluck on the queen, just for your suggest she will officially have a favorite target of "walls, all of them"

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The dps is extremely low on the hound, I think they would need arouns 45 seconds to take one airdefence down. But I am glad we agree on the increased health as that's the main point!

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Now defense bonus is something i think needs to happen lol, and hey i love my red headed stepchild so paying less for child support is always good in my book

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Valkyries just get no love eh!

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Always wondered why there wasn't more goblin villages to attack, the reset would be nice and very much appreciated maybe even at less loot i dont care just could use some extra loot. Um sorry i think lvl3 witches would end up being too OP as that many skeletons would just be obnoxious

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Yes, less loot is fine as long as some new way of loot injection is introduced. I don't think level 3 witches would be OP as in my thoughts they would have the same HP, but spawn 1-2 skelly's extra. They die as quick. I should have clarified that in my original post though!

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Ah yes more achievements please, and i like that you picked hard ones at that, give us something to work for. Ive always been a quest kind of guy rather than a grind person. Sorry dont war enough to comment.

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Couldn't agree more. I have put some effort in thinking of these achievements (and the clever names).

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

we dont need lower spell costs, just need them to cost gold again, the time however would be nice.
yes, please do discount slightly for boosting all at once i wondered why this wasn't the case when they added the feature but i guess it was to make us dream.

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Due to the reduced hero regen time, spells make people wait for their army. Even when boosted. In a GoWiPe with 4 pekka's, the spells are more than half the cost.

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

all around nice suggestions, i think this may actually belong in the ideas/request section.

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I was considering it, but I concluded in my original post to post it here. If I'm wrong, I hope a kind mod moves it!

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

P.S. Would like to add healers should be multi target already, might need to weaken the healing per second though to combat it being OP.

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Don't shoot me if I'm wrong, but aren't they doing splash heal already?

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

I like all of these ideas and totally agree with them all, and to answer the question... Yes healers do splash damage already. I on the other hand think spells are fine as they are and should not be changed back to gold, however a cost and time decrease would be nice. 😊

War Wins and losses should not be taken into account, what should IMO be taken into account is if the Royals are upgrading. Your offensive power should be calculated as less if your King or Queen is upgrading during the war.

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Originally Posted by Clashalldaycpb

I like all of these ideas and totally agree with them all, and to answer the question... Yes healers do splash damage already. I on the other hand think spells are fine as they are and should not be changed back to gold, however a cost and time decrease would be nice. 😊

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As do I, gold is used on defenses and walls while elixir is used on armies (and spells) and walls. Since the last update allows people to use elixir for walls, I am more inclined to say to keep spells in elixir as people will need gold more than they need elixir.

Thank you for chipping in!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by willsolvit

War Wins and losses should not be taken into account, what should IMO be taken into account is if the Royals are upgrading. Your offensive power should be calculated as less if your King or Queen is upgrading during the war.

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Yes, with that feature I wanted to calculate the skillset into the war opponent matchup. As has been stated previously, it isn't quite up to par so I agree with you. I don't think whether or not your royals are upgrading should be taken in account as then all defenses upgrading should also be taken into account. The royals, even one level lower, are still active on defense. On top, it doesn't adress the issue I wanted to adress: taking into account the skillset. I like the idea though, but I kindly disagree.

Thank you for your opinion though, I'll take the wins/losses idea out once there is a plausible alternative.

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by Clashalldaycpb

I like all of these ideas and totally agree with them all, and to answer the question... Yes healers do splash damage already. I on the other hand think spells are fine as they are and should not be changed back to gold, however a cost and time decrease would be nice. 😊

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I haven't used them in so long i forgot lol, but it says area splash which means small area, i want more of a multi target system like infernos have so healers can help that troop that decided to be Rambo. Would make them much better on defense too as 1 healer could potentially heal both heroes at the same time(seeing lots of people say they dont like cc troops just the royals).

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

I haven't used them in so long i forgot lol, but it says area splash which means small area, i want more of a multi target system like infernos have so healers can help that troop that decided to be Rambo. Would make them much better on defense too as 1 healer could potentially heal both heroes at the same time(seeing lots of people say they dont like cc troops just the royals).

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Good point, I understand now. I'll put it under tweaks!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

Most of these ideas are really good and seem achievable. I do agree with others about war wins. In a perfect game wins and losses should factor in but it would be manipulated.

I especially like the goblin map reset every season. I have seen it float around the forums for awhile. It seems like a no brainer to keep less active people, like myself, still interested in the game. Basically now I just collect loot and maybe raid 3-4 times a season.

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Originally Posted by Poofius

Most of these ideas are really good and seem achievable. I do agree with others about war wins. In a perfect game wins and losses should factor in but it would be manipulated.

I especially like the goblin map reset every season. I have seen it float around the forums for awhile. It seems like a no brainer to keep less active people, like myself, still interested in the game. Basically now I just collect loot and maybe raid 3-4 times a season.

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Yes, but do you have any ideas on implementing a more "skill-oriented"-factor into matchmaking? I feel that part is missing, once I find a factor like that it will replace the win/losses part.

I got the idea from somwhere around here indeed, all credit goes to these persons! I just agreed and thought about making it seasonly. You reminded me of putting a disclaimer out that these ideas are ideas I read or might have come up with, but by no means I intend to take credit away from where it's due!

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

That has to do with boosting is out. Supercell makes money off of peoples patience and boosting for bigger storage hunting armys is a reason lowering boosting cost wont happen. As a matter of fact... Goblin missions being seasonal will never happen either, why? Free easy loot. Its possible to barch most of those missions. So no.
The lava hound is a tank..more HP is would be nice since it foes to the center and it can have four ADs firing at it.

Good proposal and some good ideas about the game but do you really think the SC is listening to their customers? Over 700 pages on the new and improved loot thread and no action in response. We're lucky to get a "don't worry we're monitoring" post once a month.

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Originally Posted by Ghostface45

That has to do with boosting is out. Supercell makes money off of peoples patience and boosting for bigger storage hunting armys is a reason lowering boosting cost wont happen.

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Supercell makes money if people spending more money on gems, still they offer more gems per 1 currency if you buy more. That point isn't valid to claim reduced massboosting should be taken out.

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Originally Posted by Ghostface45

As a matter of fact... Goblin missions being seasonal will never happen either, why? Free easy loot. Its possible to barch most of those missions. So no.

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Goblin missions are 50 missions will give 4,853,500 gold and elixir. No dark elixir. As stated, the amount of loot rewarded could be halved so it will give around 2,425,000 if you do 50 raids. In 50 raids, most people will have farmed more gold and elixir, even with barch.

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Originally Posted by Ghostface45

The lava hound is a tank..more HP is would be nice since it foes to the center and it can have four ADs firing at it.

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It does fly to airdefenses which are usually in the center while golem goes after the first defense. But the biggest issue is it being targetted by airdefences which do 240 dps while cannons do 86 dps on golems. A health increase to offset that is needed.

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by rolemac

Good proposal and some good ideas about the game but do you really think the SC is listening to their customers? Over 700 pages on the new and improved loot thread and no action in response. We're lucky to get a "don't worry we're monitoring" post once a month.

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I am trying to hope and dream this will be seen and looked at by moderators and supercell!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by Arrow1993

I am trying to hope and dream this will be seen and looked at by moderators and supercell!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Im sure it will be looked at (and moved) by a moderator :)

Youve got some nice ideas. But hound is fine as is, you just need to be selective with bases you attack. I've seen them used very well.

i do not agree with seasonal gob maps (this game is about multiplayer, not about riding a shield and playing single player), Valkyries are fine as they are.

I would like like to see defense rewards for winning, but resetting traps is ridiculous. You gain an advantage for being active. And that's the way it should be.

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Originally Posted by gorzo93

Im sure it will be looked at (and moved) by a moderator :)

Youve got some nice ideas. But hound is fine as is, you just need to be selective with bases you attack. I've seen them used very well.

i do not agree with seasonal gob maps (this game is about multiplayer, not about riding a shield and playing single player), Valkyries are fine as they are.

I would like like to see defense rewards for winning, but resetting traps is ridiculous. You gain an advantage for being active. And that's the way it should be.

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Hound needs more hp than golem due to the airdefence targetting a hound.
Seasonal goblin maps will not net you enough to upgrade your defenses. That's 50 raids for about 2,400,000 on gold and elixir. A very good loot injection. Valks are barely used, so a cost decreased might spark interest.
And I agree with your last point.

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

I think if we implement the seasonal Goblin mission restarts, there should be an option to reset them every season, instead of it doing it automatically. This way the "Get those Goblins" achievement would not be so difficult to attain because of the restarts.

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Originally Posted by ROBveteran

I think if we implement the seasonal Goblin mission restarts, there should be an option to reset them every season, instead of it doing it automatically. This way the "Get those Goblins" achievement would not be so difficult to attain because of the restarts.

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I was more thinking that whenever the season ends, all missions will be reset. That would make the goblin challenge somewhat challenging. You'll need to do all 50 missions in a season for the achievements, or only the last ones for loot. Those are decisions every players has to make for themselves.

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by Arrow1993

I was more thinking that whenever the season ends, all missions will be reset. That would make the goblin challenge somewhat challenging. You'll need to do all 50 missions in a season for the achievements, or only the last ones for loot. Those are decisions every players has to make for themselves.

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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I see where you're going with that "Sacrifices must be made in war" theme, but I still think there should be an option IMO. Although if SC did implement your idea, they would probably do it your way, as SC likes to take awesome idea's and do them 90% before stopping. Example: boosts stop when they do maintenance, but you can't just click a button to pause them.

I think there should be a another now achievement:
Royale Pain:
The goal is to KO as many heros a possible

	Heros to KO	XP	Gems
1 Star	50	100	10
2 Stars	250	1000	25
3 Stars	1000	5000	50

As for the rest of the suggestions:
Don't care about the LH
Yes! redo the queens AI
Yes! Reward defense!
Yay! Les pricey valks!
If they steal your loot or take your stars, no, if they just get more loot, yes.
Meh. lvl 1s work fine. Don't think we need a level 3
Awesome! New achievements!
That would be great!
Nice! Love those tweaks! ;)

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Originally Posted by ROBveteran

I see where you're going with that "Sacrifices must be made in war" theme, but I still think there should be an option IMO. Although if SC did implement your idea, they would probably do it your way, as SC likes to take awesome idea's and do them 90% before stopping. Example: boosts stop when they do maintenance, but you can't just click a button to pause them.

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In my opinion they wouldn't mess up if they did it that way, as then the goblin missions refresh whenever people want them to. A lot easier to implement is a reset for all goblin levels when the season ends.

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Originally Posted by kittehhoard

I think there should be a another now achievement:
Royale Pain:
The goal is to KO as many heros a possible

	Heros to KO	XP	Gems
1 Star	50	100	10
2 Stars	250	1000	25
3 Stars	1000	5000	50

As for the rest of the suggestions:
Don't care about the LH
Yes! redo the queens AI
Yes! Reward defense!
Yay! Les pricey valks!
If they steal your loot or take your stars, no, if they just get more loot, yes.
Meh. lvl 1s work fine. Don't think we need a level 3
Awesome! New achievements!
That would be great!
Nice! Love those tweaks! ;)

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Thanks for the feedback! The witch upgrade to level 3 only consists of her spawning more skeletons, not more hp or damage. I was thinking about the Royal Assassin achievement whether I should do "Royals killed" or ''Altars destroyed". I came to the conclusion that the only way to destroy an altar is by killing the royal as well! To make it a bit more challenging I decided to go with altars destroyed! I think our ideas kind of overlap then!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by Arrow1993

In my opinion they wouldn't mess up if they did it that way, as then the goblin missions refresh whenever people want them to. A lot easier to implement is a reset for all goblin levels when the season ends.


Thanks for the feedback! The witch upgrade to level 3 only consists of her spawning more skeletons, not more hp or damage. I was thinking about the Royal Assassin achievement whether I should do "Royals killed" or ''Altars destroyed". I came to the conclusion that the only way to destroy an altar is by killing the royal as well! To make it a bit more challenging I decided to go with altars destroyed! I think our ideas kind of overlap then!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Just keep in mind that part of the barching strategy for trophies involves lightning on the hero altars for a couple of extra percent! But yes I think we could do both!

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Originally Posted by Arrow1993

In my opinion they wouldn't mess up if they did it that way, as then the goblin missions refresh whenever people want them to. A lot easier to implement is a reset for all goblin levels when the season ends.


King Midas
Insurgence Family

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For sure that would be much easier, but as we know, easier is not always better:P

Another thing I was thinking about though is some of the earlier missions on the map, like the ones for 20k each. personally since I am not a th4 I would never do those, as to me that is a waste of time and resources. If this idea were to be implemented, there would have to be at least a small amount of beefing up done to the earlier missions, otherwise the last 8 would be done, and nothing else.

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Just keep in mind that part of the barching strategy for trophies involves lightning on the hero altars for a couple of extra percent! But yes I think we could do both!

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Yes if the heroes are downed, that's true.

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Originally Posted by Player7

This is the only thing I would alter, why not have brand new single player maps, one for wizards,dragons,Giants etc and add ️Clan castles full of that unit with different lvls and qty to the single player camps to make it more themed.

these are great tweaks but not worthy of a BIG update if that's all there was.

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I would consider all the parts I mentioned as a big update, at least in my book as that's what I would really like (aside of townhall 11). I wanted to minimize the effort put in by not asking new singleplayers maps but just use the old ones. If SC wants to put more effort in, themed singeplayers maps would be more fun.

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Originally Posted by ROBveteran

For sure that would be much easier, but as we know, easier is not always better:P

Another thing I was thinking about though is some of the earlier missions on the map, like the ones for 20k each. personally since I am not a th4 I would never do those, as to me that is a waste of time and resources. If this idea were to be implemented, there would have to be at least a small amount of beefing up done to the earlier missions, otherwise the last 8 would be done, and nothing else.

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I agree, but I kept those in for the achievement purposes. If there are 50 raids to do for one point on the Goblin Infestation Control achievement, people will do the 50 raids for the achievement. Just keeping a few (the highest loot maps) would not be the way to roll in my opinion. The singplayers maps would have a double goal: achievement and loot injection.

Thank you all!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

Sorry but don't agree with most of it

• Hounds are already being used in three starring maxed bases and do not need a buff.
• Queen has a large range but operates with same ai as archer, fixing this requires more work than sc is willing to put in but they might fix it one day.
• SC don't want players attacking in single player too much so very little chance of more goblin maps happening.
• No chance of lower spell time, the only people that need all spells to attack are the guys at the very top, who would gem it anyway for more cash for SC, the rest of us need to conserve spell usage.
• Healers healing more than one group would make it OP at lower levels, the reason why its not used at higher levels is all the mines and AD not its healing capabilities.
• Wars should not take skill into account, that defeats the purpose as clans should be matched with people of equal strength and the better player should win (Skill is what decides the outcome, not the matchmaking) and is easily manipulated. The members in a clan also change so its not feasible.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

• Healers healing more than one group would make it OP at lower levels, the reason why its not used at higher levels is all the mines and AD not its healing capabilities.

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thats why i suggested a reduction in heal per second to balance it out. And no the mines arent really a factor on a healer as a single hound these days can trip the mines in the path you want to take. Its strictly the defenses that make it hard on the healer at high lvls. But say there is less heal per second, but the healer can heal outside that 1 group, then i see it being useful at th9/10. It wouldn't be OP since the troops will still die, just at a slower rate, giving you those extra seconds of damage. On defense is where healer would shine, being able to heal both heroes while opponent uses their heroes ability.

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Originally Posted by Arrow1993

Hiya, thank you for responding!

I do agree with the fact lava hounds are mainly a distraction. So are golems in GoWiWi and GoWiPe. The difference is the following: golems have cannons (64 dps) against them which hounds do not while hounds have airdefence against them (240 dps). Nevertheless their dps is lower and the hp of maxed hounds and golems is identical. I hope that clarifies my point a bit.

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Yes, but golems get stopped at walls, or need wall breakers for support. Hounds have nothing holding them back.

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Originally Posted by Arrow1993

Yes, but I have a feeling that doesn't give much freedom. If I get attacked and win once, that's fine as one attack leads to one rearm and reload. But if you win more than once, you don't gain anything. The loot gained can be used to rearm and reload as well but gives you the freedom to chose what to spend it on and gives you the incentive to win multiple defenses. Townhalls on the outside will also be as common as today because winning won't change anything for them (trap etc. don't get used).

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Don't gain anything? You gain trophies. Don't care about trophies? That's okay. You still got the benefit of not having to reset your traps, so nothing is lost.

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Originally Posted by Arrow1993

As I am one of the people convinced the loot problem isn't a loot problem but a loot injection problem. Seasonal goblin missions will make that possible. The incentive is loot and the achievement, but there are no repercussions for not doing goblin missions. You can only gain, not lose. On top, most of these can be done with loonions.

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How about this--The loot resets every season, but once a level is beaten, it stays unlocked. That would be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Arrow1993

Fair point, it can potentially be manipulated. Do you have any ideas to factor in skills? Some clans have people with highlevel bases with no heavy army skills, while others might have never farmed but can use the highlevel armies with an extraordinary amount of skills. Would love your ideas on that!

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You can't search for skill level. Skill level will sort itself out in the war.

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Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Certainly. These bouncing back and forth of points is very productive... As long as Super Cell listens, and acts on the suggestions that make sense. Otherwise, it doesn't matter what we say. It's still up to them to make it happen.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

Don't gain anything? You gain trophies. Don't care about trophies? That's okay. You still got the benefit of not having to reset your traps, so nothing is lost.

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You don't reward people by not having to pay something. That's more status quo.

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How about this--The loot resets every season, but once a level is beaten, it stays unlocked. That would be awesome.

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I see what you're saying, but I also created an achievement where the goal was to do the seasonal one multiple times, then that needs to be revisited as well.

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Certainly. These bouncing back and forth of points is very productive... As long as Super Cell listens, and acts on the suggestions that make sense. Otherwise, it doesn't matter what we say. It's still up to them to make it happen.

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You can lead a horse to the water, but can't make the horse drink it.

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Sorry but don't agree with most of it

• Hounds are already being used in three starring maxed bases and do not need a buff.
• Queen has a large range but operates with same ai as archer, fixing this requires more work than sc is willing to put in but they might fix it one day.
• SC don't want players attacking in single player too much so very little chance of more goblin maps happening.
• No chance of lower spell time, the only people that need all spells to attack are the guys at the very top, who would gem it anyway for more cash for SC, the rest of us need to conserve spell usage.
• Healers healing more than one group would make it OP at lower levels, the reason why its not used at higher levels is all the mines and AD not its healing capabilities.
• Wars should not take skill into account, that defeats the purpose as clans should be matched with people of equal strength and the better player should win (Skill is what decides the outcome, not the matchmaking) and is easily manipulated. The members in a clan also change so its not feasible.

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1. Hounds are being used to 2* bases. They can 3* bases as well, just like GoWiPe and GoWiWi. That's not too often. You're only counting the victories, but I have seen a lot of hound fails as well. More fails than wins. It does not seem fair to me that a hound which is targetted by the AD has the same ho as a golem which is not targetted by the AD. A health increase just means that they can survive one more hit from an AD, nothing morez
2. The Archer Queen still starts bashing random walls, whether or not SC wants to put work in it is a question we can ask about every part of this proposal.
3. I don't know where you got the basis from. The fact those maps are there indicates to me that Supercell likes them being there. It seems like something that has yet to reach its potential.
4. Whenever you GoWiPe or GoWiWi in wars, you use 4-5 spells. That's about 3 hours. Boosted it is x4. Which is around 45 minutes. Maxed royals have a 2 hour sleep period and an army takes 1h15m to cook if you spread your barracks properly. That means there is a huge difference in time. On top of that, you can't even qeue spells. You only conserve spell usage while farming, not while pushing or when you push.
5. Whether or not it heals more or less, the healers are simply not used at higher levels due to the army space and the bombs. A healer healing more could be beneficial for lower townhalls, but definitely not overpowered.
6. Once again, that part is under review. However, as you go up higher in base ranks you get matched with high level clans, clans that only level other high level bases at high cup levels. They use GoWiPe and GoWiWi like we use barch. A war is just 2 attacks for which they don't get cups, other clans (farming oriented) make those armies specifically for war and are not used to them. Yes you can improve by pushing or using them in regular gameplay. It would just be beneficial to take something in account, maybe even the total cuplevel of a clan, as higher cups means higher usage of huge and heavy armies. Those are just ideas I throw out, I can't wait for someone to come up with a solution and not a repetition of the issue.

Thank you for contributing!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

I agree with all except increasing lava hound dps they are meant to tank so health increase makes sense. I really like the new achievements youve thought of. Goblin campaign should reset every month not season imo. The war thing i don't like though. Same for the healers tbh

1. The point of hounds is to tank, not take out air defenses. I dont think they need a boost as the 4 hound strategy 3 stars th9s and the normal lavaloonion can 3 star th10. If anything should be boosted it is the lava pups.

2. Yes, we need to get loot from winning defenses.

3. Reset every month, not season.

4. Idk

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1. Hounds are being used to 2* bases. They can 3* bases as well, just like GoWiPe and GoWiWi. That's not too often. You're only counting the victories, but I have seen a lot of hound fails as well. More fails than wins. It does not seem fair to me that a hound which is targetted by the AD has the same ho as a golem which is not targetted by the AD. A health increase just means that they can survive one more hit from an AD, nothing morez
3. I don't know where you got the basis from. The fact those maps are there indicates to me that Supercell likes them being there. It seems like something that has yet to reach its potential.

6. Once again, that part is under review. However, as you go up higher in base ranks you get matched with high level clans, clans that only level other high level bases at high cup levels. They use GoWiPe and GoWiWi like we use barch. A war is just 2 attacks for which they don't get cups, other clans (farming oriented) make those armies specifically for war and are not used to them. Yes you can improve by pushing or using them in regular gameplay. It would just be beneficial to take something in account, maybe even the total cuplevel of a clan, as higher cups means higher usage of huge and heavy armies. Those are just ideas I throw out, I can't wait for someone to come up with a solution and not a repetition of the issue.

Thank you for contributing!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Something which is already being used for high level gameplay for three stars has very little chance of getting an additional buff, you cant really look at failures as when I was a th9 I had a maxed gowipe with lvl30 heroes fail, does that mean that gowipe needs a buff or that the attacker wasn't using it to its potential of three stars?

About no more single-player missions, a mod or staff had commented on it before but I wouldn't be able to find the reference. They are there to enhance gameplay a bit, but its not intended to be a significant source of income or anything, having one temporary level depending on your th each season would be nice though.

Also about wars, skill is what is being measured to decide the outcome, using it in matchmaking ruins that. Its absurd that clans which are good at wars shouldn't be the ones to win the most wars, which is what will happen if you try to incorporate skill into matchmaking.

Its nice debating on the forums without hostility :)

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You don't reward people by not having to pay something. That's more status quo.

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You wanted a defensive bonus. Reloading traps on a successful defense would be just that...

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You can lead a horse to the water, but can't make the horse drink it.

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You don't have to make him drink. Just make him thirsty. ;)

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I agree with all except increasing lava hound dps they are meant to tank so health increase makes sense. I really like the new achievements youve thought of. Goblin campaign should reset every month not season imo. The war thing i don't like though. Same for the healers tbh

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Yeah, I think you're right. I'll take out the extra dps as others mentioned it as well. I'm still convinced the goblin campaign maps should be seasonly and now that I started thinking about the healer, I don't think it would be too beneficial.

Regarding the war, yes but the matchmaking already gets manipulated by clans staying on a certain member count to get 30v30 matchups. It should be balanced. We had times where we destroyed all the clans with us having 70+ and them not hitting double digits. Now we have lost the last 8 wars as we got matched against top50 clans...

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1. The point of hounds is to tank, not take out air defenses. I dont think they need a boost as the 4 hound strategy 3 stars th9s and the normal lavaloonion can 3 star th10. If anything should be boosted it is the lava pups.

2. Yes, we need to get loot from winning defenses.

3. Reset every month, not season.

4. Idk

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If the dps would be increased, the pups would also be buffed. However, the main goal is to get a health increase. If we reset it monthly, the achievement will be very hard to get. I prefer reducing the loot gained even more so you get the same amount of loot if you do it twice (seasonly) as if you would do it once (monthly).

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Something which is already being used for high level gameplay for three stars has very little chance of getting an additional buff, you cant really look at failures as when I was a th9 I had a maxed gowipe with lvl30 heroes fail, does that mean that gowipe needs a buff or that the attacker wasn't using it to its potential of three stars?

About no more single-player missions, a mod or staff had commented on it before but I wouldn't be able to find the reference. They are there to enhance gameplay a bit, but its not intended to be a significant source of income or anything, having one temporary level depending on your th each season would be nice though.

Also about wars, skill is what is being measured to decide the outcome, using it in matchmaking ruins that. Its absurd that clans which are good at wars shouldn't be the ones to win the most wars, which is what will happen if you try to incorporate skill into matchmaking.

Its nice debating on the forums without hostility :)

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Fair point regarding the extra buff, but I still think they have one of the heaviest defences against them which the golems don't. A health increase which would allow them to survive one more AD hit will make up for that and not outbalance the game, but I do understand where you are coming from. (GoWiPe was also a 3* army when they introduced lvl 5 pekka's eh).

I trust you on your word, no need to go on a witch hunt to findthat comment! I do think if goblin maps are used to their potential, they can be a a huge addition to the game (aside of regular and war gameplay, more singleplayer gameplay) and that this could be a way to inject loot in the system (just like war does, but barely enough as you need expensive armies). I just thought of a Dr. Terror kind of base like in Boom Beach, which would increase the difficulty and the achievement could be redone into highest level achiever or something.

There is a difference between the way clans work. Some farm most of the time, others push. The ones that push have a great advantage over the ones that do not push (often). A potential alternative is taking into account the average war stars of all the members whom are going to war? I would like your thoughts on that one.

Sorry if I came over offensive regarding the skills, was not intended that way but others have brought it up as well. We have destroyed others in clan wars for a long streak, and then all of a sudden we are now the ones getting bashed while our members are the exact same. Hence why I am still convinced of doing something like that :)! Indeed, I love debating, discussing and even a little arguing on matters like these.

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You wanted a defensive bonus. Reloading traps on a successful defense would be just that...

You don't have to make him drink. Just make him thirsty. ;)

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The main goal of people putting their TH in isn't achieved. They just put it outside, get sniped, have a shield for 12 hours and carry on. You only give them back what they lost. If they won twice on defense in a night, are you giving them a double reloading traps bonus? That's not going to work as you only need one. On top, giving a certain amount of resources gives the opportunity for people to spend it elsewhere as I know a lot of farmers whom keep their traps completely unarmed as it cuts in their resources generated.
I am trying to make the horse thirsty with this thread :)

Thank you all for responding! I will edit the original post!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Lava hounds were never meant to take out air defenses. They simply go toward them, to get to the center of the base, in order to distract the defenses long enough, for your other troops to do the same.

I do like the idea of defensive rewards. However, instead of loot, I would simply prefer for a successful defense to reset my traps and reload defensive ammo, automatically, at no charge.

It takes more than two weeks for most people to finish the goblin missions. Resetting them every season would mean that most people would never see the end.

War wins do not, nor should not, count in war matchmaking. Otherwise, a clan could simply disband and reform every so often, to avoid the clans with a lot of wins. In other words, it's too easily manipulated.

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I agree with you:cool:

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Would you be so kind to let me know what you think of my response on his points? :) Always love some new input.

King Midas
Insurgence Family

There is a difference between the way clans work. Some farm most of the time, others push. The ones that push have a great advantage over the ones that do not push (often). A potential alternative is taking into account the average war stars of all the members whom are going to war? I would like your thoughts on that one.
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My point is that clans that push and have an advantage should have an advantage. The factor that is constant is supposed to be the base levels, and the factor that decides the outcome is how skilled the attackers are and how good the layouts are.
What your suggesting would make cw like a tournament of some sort, which isn't a bad idea but it cant happen as a part of the existing cw

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However, as you go up higher in base ranks you get matched with high level clans, clans that only level other high level bases at high cup levels. They use GoWiPe and GoWiWi like we use barch. A war is just 2 attacks for which they don't get cups, other clans (farming oriented) make those armies specifically for war and are not used to them. Yes you can improve by pushing or using them in regular gameplay. It would just be beneficial to take something in account, maybe even the total cuplevel of a clan, as higher cups means higher usage of huge and heavy armies. Those are just ideas I throw out, I can't wait for someone to come up with a solution and not a repetition of the issue.

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We do not want war matchmaking to take trophy level into account, because trophy level is directly controlled by us, and just as it is manipulated for farming, it will also be manipulated for war, and we should have no control over war matchmaking.

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We had times where we destroyed all the clans with us having 70+ and them not hitting double digits. Now we have lost the last 8 wars as we got matched against top50 clans...

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If you have all the same members in your clan, then your clan has gotten stronger (more playing = better defenses, troops, spells, heroes, and walls, which is what is used to calculate your 'war rating' for match making) so naturally, your clan will be paired up with progressively stronger clans.

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The main goal of people putting their TH in isn't achieved. They just put it outside, get sniped, have a shield for 12 hours and carry on. You only give them back what they lost. If they won twice on defense in a night, are you giving them a double reloading traps bonus? That's not going to work as you only need one. On top, giving a certain amount of resources gives the opportunity for people to spend it elsewhere as I know a lot of farmers whom keep their traps completely unarmed as it cuts in their resources generated.

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Okay, I get it... You're saying that there really is no benefit of winning multiple defenses in a row. First of all, you do get trophies. If you do not care about trophies, how about this idea of an extra benefit--Let's figure out a way to put some extra loot into the Town Hall. Whether it is gold from people nexting passed your base, or some other source, is not important. Make the Town Hall be able to passively collect it though, and be 100% raidable. People will then be incentivized to put their Town Hall inside the walls. In order to move that loot into your storages, you should have to collect it, such as you do now, for CC loot. The difference being the fact that it is 100% raidable.

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I am trying to make the horse thirsty with this thread :)

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Exactly. That is the point I was making. We don't have to make the horse drink, if we can present the information in a way that makes it thirsty.

I didnt read all posts, just the forst page.

I personally agree that hounds should have somewhat more hounds. I do believe they will put that in.

Queen definitely needa ai improvements. As do pekka and drags. (Ever seen a drag run after a skele halfway across the base?).

Valkyries should be slightly cheaper. And slightly health buffed as well imo.

Boosting all resource buildings will probably be added. I like the idea of it bein cheaper when boosting all.

Defensive win loot? Interesting....but no comment.

Seasonal goblins-yes, goblins definitely need to be looked at. I think new and diffrent bases should be put out per month(not 2 weeks). And possibly contain fewer bases than the classic goblin maps.

War matchmaking based on wins- i have so much to say. First of all, it cant be exclusively based on wins, obviously. With that bein said, throwing more stuff into matchmaking would make finding a match take longer, which would be a problem.( there would be fewer "equal" clans). Besides for all that i disagree with the idea from an oppionated standpoint. I feel clans SHOULD win based on skill. If we go with this, what would clans win based on? Not as much skill anymore, and the luck factor would play a bigger role. And for my last point, as has been stated, clans will likely constantly switch to "new" clans to trick the mm.

Sorry for getting back to you so slow, been busy.

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We do not want war matchmaking to take trophy level into account, because trophy level is directly controlled by us, and just as it is manipulated for farming, it will also be manipulated for war, and we should have no control over war matchmaking.

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You're right. Cuplevel is an easy way to take advantage, that should be ruled out. I gave it some thought and how about the average clan war stars per person in the clan eligible to war on top of the existing requirements? That doesn't seem easy to manipulate to me. Maybe you prove me wrong again though :)

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Okay, I get it... You're saying that there really is no benefit of winning multiple defenses in a row. First of all, you do get trophies. If you do not care about trophies, how about this idea of an extra benefit--Let's figure out a way to put some extra loot into the Town Hall. Whether it is gold from people nexting passed your base, or some other source, is not important. Make the Town Hall be able to passively collect it though, and be 100% raidable. People will then be incentivized to put their Town Hall inside the walls. In order to move that loot into your storages, you should have to collect it, such as you do now, for CC loot. The difference being the fact that it is 100% raidable.

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I might have a better idea which I came up with a few hours ago: if you win the raid, you get the elixir of the army used (not spells) in elixir and the same amount in gold back. That means if you protect against barch, you'll not get that much for defending succesfully while when you defend against GoWiPe and GoWiWi (which is harder) you'll get a bigger bonus. That way the bonus depends on your base but also the army attacking it. This will make protecting your base in gold way less lucrative than let's say protecting your base in champs. I'd love your thoughts on it.
I do like the idea of the townhall holding resources, but I seem to recall that lots of people were against that.

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Exactly. That is the point I was making. We don't have to make the horse drink, if we can present the information in a way that makes it thirsty.

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Yes indeed, thank you for contributing with your thoughts. I really do appreciate it.

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I didnt read all posts, just the forst page.

I personally agree that hounds should have somewhat more hounds. I do believe they will put that in.

Queen definitely needa ai improvements. As do pekka and drags. (Ever seen a drag run after a skele halfway across the base?).

Valkyries should be slightly cheaper. And slightly health buffed as well imo.

Boosting all resource buildings will probably be added. I like the idea of it bein cheaper when boosting all.

Defensive win loot? Interesting....but no comment.

Seasonal goblins-yes, goblins definitely need to be looked at. I think new and diffrent bases should be put out per month(not 2 weeks). And possibly contain fewer bases than the classic goblin maps.

War matchmaking based on wins- i have so much to say. First of all, it cant be exclusively based on wins, obviously. With that bein said, throwing more stuff into matchmaking would make finding a match take longer, which would be a problem.( there would be fewer "equal" clans). Besides for all that i disagree with the idea from an oppionated standpoint. I feel clans SHOULD win based on skill. If we go with this, what would clans win based on? Not as much skill anymore, and the luck factor would play a bigger role. And for my last point, as has been stated, clans will likely constantly switch to "new" clans to trick the mm.

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Thanks for the feedback!

I understand that the idea works when you are working with the majority of the clans, which aren't all full TH10's. I can however say that skill eventually "flattens out" and that people resort to other means to get an edge. To calculate the war wins or something in, I try to incorporate a way to find fair matchmaking.

I threw the idea out that maybe the average clan war stars of all the persons eligible for a war should be build in as a factor? I'd like your idea on it.

Thanks for the feedback!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

This whole thread should just be your ideas in the Ideas section, no different than any other update/idea proposal

The Lavahound Has Increased Damage And Health

Its supposed to be a tank, not damage anything. It has more health than a golem, so it doesnt need an increase there. It tanks enough for loons + dragons to take out air defenses. Just like golems arent expected to take out any defenses, lava hounds shouldnt get an increase.
The lava hound doesnt have cannons and mortars going after it either, so the golem doesnt have air defenses excuse is bad.


Forum exclusive: the Archer Queen is now up to date with the playbook and will be more focused on defenses than walls! Archer Queen AI improvements coming!
More focused on buildings, defenses would be too OP. I suspect that the huge range of the queen, not the AI (targets anything, like many other troops), that causes it to shoot walls a lot.



Defense Is Rewarded
Do you wonder why you are actually playing this game as you have no intention to go cuphunting after you maxed?
No? Most people with anything near max bases (including walls and heroes), go hunting. And certainly just waiting of defenses is more boring than cup hunting. Lastly, people with max bases and people that hunt cups dont even focus on loot, so your suggestion of defensive wins gaining loot has nothing to do with "no intention to go cuphunting after you maxed"


Forum exclusive: the price of the valkyries has been reduced to 100 dark elixir.
LOL NO WAY, its actually alright now.



Goblin Maps Are Seasonal

Chief, the goblins are returning. They will now be trying to take your resources every season! Goblin maps will be "refilled" every season as a "seasonly". [Potentially monthly but then the Goblin Infestation Control achievement needs to be revisited.]
They try to steal your resources? Doubt that would happen.

Forum exclusive: level 3 witches. [UNDER REVIEW]
Umm... Gowiwi and the previous witch pandemic was enough, I think level 2 keeps it under balance.

New Achievements
- Royalistic: level 20 royals (1 star), level 30 royals (2 stars) and level 40 royals (3 stars)
Total? or...
- Royal Assassin: destroy 250 altars (1 star), 500 altars (2 stars) and 1000 altars (3 stars)
- Clan Turmoil: destroy 100 clan castles (1 star), 250 clan castles (2 stars) and 500 clan castles (3 stars)
- Goblin Infestation Control: do the seasonal goblin maps 10 times (1 star), 50 times (2 stars) and 100 times (3 stars)
These kind of make sense, as opposed to the ideas above.

Forum exclusive: War search will now take war wins and war losses in account! [UNDER REVIEW] [The goal is to replace this with something not manipulable but taking into account the status of a clan, so people don't get outmatched but people actually war against their equals, which is not only base strength.]
New clans that are strong obviously would have 0 war wins, so this idea doesnt make sense. Also, the forum is full of people complaining that wars are hard, but if you consider the flip side, it means there is always a good war clan getting easy matchups? I think the mix of good and bad matchups as well as tight matchups all even out and it is okay now. I have noticed that premmies can skew the match making in war though


Other Tweaks:
- Lower spell costs and time
- Boosting all mines/pumps/drills at once costs now 60/60/75 gems instead of 70/70/90 gems. Boosting one mine/pump/drill will remain 10/10/30 gems.
- Boosting all baracks/dark barracks wat once costs now 30/15 gems instead of 40/20 gems. Boosting one barrack/dark barrack will remain 10/10 gems.
Yeah, no. Its been lowered before and I highly doubt SC would lower their profits by doing this. And if you want lower spell times, boost. Cost is fine.

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They are multi target, they heal groups of giants at a time.


Also, there are more cannons than air defenses, they fire faster, and golems do not go straight for them. No health boost needed for hounds. BTW, a max golem has 6300 HP while a max hound has 6700 HP

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This whole thread should just be your ideas in the Ideas section, no different than any other update/idea proposal

The Lavahound Has Increased Damage And Health

Its supposed to be a tank, not damage anything. It has more health than a golem, so it doesnt need an increase there. It tanks enough for loons + dragons to take out air defenses. Just like golems arent expected to take out any defenses, lava hounds shouldnt get an increase.
The lava hound doesnt have cannons and mortars going after it either, so the golem doesnt have air defenses excuse is bad.


Forum exclusive: the Archer Queen is now up to date with the playbook and will be more focused on defenses than walls! Archer Queen AI improvements coming!
More focused on buildings, defenses would be too OP. I suspect that the huge range of the queen, not the AI (targets anything, like many other troops), that causes it to shoot walls a lot.



Defense Is Rewarded
Do you wonder why you are actually playing this game as you have no intention to go cuphunting after you maxed?
No? Most people with anything near max bases (including walls and heroes), go hunting. And certainly just waiting of defenses is more boring than cup hunting. Lastly, people with max bases and people that hunt cups dont even focus on loot, so your suggestion of defensive wins gaining loot has nothing to do with "no intention to go cuphunting after you maxed"


Forum exclusive: the price of the valkyries has been reduced to 100 dark elixir.
LOL NO WAY, its actually alright now.



Goblin Maps Are Seasonal

Chief, the goblins are returning. They will now be trying to take your resources every season! Goblin maps will be "refilled" every season as a "seasonly". [Potentially monthly but then the Goblin Infestation Control achievement needs to be revisited.]
They try to steal your resources? Doubt that would happen.

Forum exclusive: level 3 witches. [UNDER REVIEW]
Umm... Gowiwi and the previous witch pandemic was enough, I think level 2 keeps it under balance.

New Achievements
- Royalistic: level 20 royals (1 star), level 30 royals (2 stars) and level 40 royals (3 stars)
Total? or...
- Royal Assassin: destroy 250 altars (1 star), 500 altars (2 stars) and 1000 altars (3 stars)
- Clan Turmoil: destroy 100 clan castles (1 star), 250 clan castles (2 stars) and 500 clan castles (3 stars)
- Goblin Infestation Control: do the seasonal goblin maps 10 times (1 star), 50 times (2 stars) and 100 times (3 stars)
These kind of make sense, as opposed to the ideas above.

Forum exclusive: War search will now take war wins and war losses in account! [UNDER REVIEW] [The goal is to replace this with something not manipulable but taking into account the status of a clan, so people don't get outmatched but people actually war against their equals, which is not only base strength.]
New clans that are strong obviously would have 0 war wins, so this idea doesnt make sense. Also, the forum is full of people complaining that wars are hard, but if you consider the flip side, it means there is always a good war clan getting easy matchups? I think the mix of good and bad matchups as well as tight matchups all even out and it is okay now. I have noticed that premmies can skew the match making in war though


Other Tweaks:
- Lower spell costs and time
- Boosting all mines/pumps/drills at once costs now 60/60/75 gems instead of 70/70/90 gems. Boosting one mine/pump/drill will remain 10/10/30 gems.
- Boosting all baracks/dark barracks wat once costs now 30/15 gems instead of 40/20 gems. Boosting one barrack/dark barrack will remain 10/10 gems.
Yeah, no. Its been lowered before and I highly doubt SC would lower their profits by doing this. And if you want lower spell times, boost. Cost is fine.

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I made a bet with my clan members to wait for the first bash on my thread. They thought it would come a lot faster, I hoped that when I stayed nice others would stay nice and present their opinions decently. I guess they were right, eventhough I got some very nice, helpfull and constructive comments from the others, which I did appreciate.

For the aforementioned reasons, I'm not responding to your "comments" or even "remarks". I'd thank you for contributing, but I can't call it contributing.

EDIT: if you want to have an argument, do private message me but keep this thread clean.

King Midas
Insurgence Family

All of the ideas you initially suggested seem fine to me.

I agree with level 3 Witches. TH10 really needs them.