Forum Project: 'Sneak peek proposal'

Hiya everyone,

I always had some ideas about what could be in an update but was reluctant to post them here. However, I wanted to know what everyone would think about them and what you would do. Maybe we can all chip in on the base thoughts/ideas I am putting forward so we can improve the overall "proposal". Some aspects people might not agree with, but I hope we can make this constructive 'proposalcrafting'. I also refuse to respond to anyone not being constructive, with all due respect.

Yes, some parts might never happen and might be considered mildly unrealistic. I just hope these come out in the near future, and as far I recall dreaming is not prohibited.

Finally, an excuse to the mods if this belongs in Creativity. I considered Creativity and General but came to the conclusion to put it in General as the goal of this thread is to come to a "sneak peek proposal" for Supercell. If you disagree, I understand and thank you for moving it! I also understand there are tons of other threads regarding this issue, but those never had a couple of nice thoughts/ideas to start the discussion off, hence me starting a new thread.

Enough talking, here are my thoughts:

The Lavahound Has Increased Damage And Health


The Lavahound decided to start working out more as it is outmatched by the fireworks it has been going after, while it's ground counterpart does not have these fireworks against him. As a result the lavahound has a hp increase!


Forum exclusive: the Archer Queen is now up to date with the playbook and will be more focused on defenses than walls! Archer Queen AI improvements coming!




Defense Is Rewarded


Do you wonder why you are actually playing this game as you have no intention to go cuphunting after you maxed? No worries! From now on your defensive wins will be rewarded with 75% of your league bonus! If you lose, you will not gain anything but triggered traps, empty x-bows and inferno towers.


Forum exclusive: the price of the valkyries has been reduced to 100 dark elixir.




Goblin Maps Are Seasonal


Chief, the goblins are returning. They will now be trying to take your resources every season! Goblin maps will be "refilled" every season as a "seasonly". [Potentially monthly but then the Goblin Infestation Control achievement needs to be revisited.]


Forum exclusive: level 3 witches. [UNDER REVIEW]


New Achievements
- Royalistic: level 20 royals (1 star), level 30 royals (2 stars) and level 40 royals (3 stars)
- Royal Assassin: destroy 250 altars (1 star), 500 altars (2 stars) and 1000 altars (3 stars)
- Clan Turmoil: destroy 100 clan castles (1 star), 250 clan castles (2 stars) and 500 clan castles (3 stars)
- Goblin Infestation Control: do the seasonal goblin maps 10 times (1 star), 50 times (2 stars) and 100 times (3 stars)


Forum exclusive: War search will now take war wins and war losses in account! [UNDER REVIEW] [The goal is to replace this with something not manipulatable but taking into account the status of a clan, so people don't get outmatched but people actually war against their equals, which is not only base strength.]




Other Tweaks:
- Lower spell costs and time
- Boosting all mines/pumps/drills at once costs now 60/60/75 gems instead of 70/70/90 gems. Boosting one mine/pump/drill will remain 10/10/30 gems.
- Boosting all baracks/dark barracks wat once costs now 30/15 gems instead of 40/20 gems. Boosting one barrack/dark barrack will remain 10/10 gems.


(No art as I am horrendous with art, I also want the ideas to be emphasized.)

I would LOVE constructive feedback with thought out ideas and which have a nice basis. Let's put our ideas/thoughts together and come to a nice "sneak peek proposal". This a rough draft, anything can be added, taken out or changed!

Let the crowdsourcing beging and let's keep it civil!

Thanks for everyone reading and/or commenting and contributing to this thread and proposal!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

Lava hounds were never meant to take out air defenses. They simply go toward them, to get to the center of the base, in order to distract the defenses long enough, for your other troops to do the same.

I do like the idea of defensive rewards. However, instead of loot, I would simply prefer for a successful defense to reset my traps and reload defensive ammo, automatically, at no charge.

It takes more than two weeks for most people to finish the goblin missions. Resetting them every season would mean that most people would never see the end.

War wins do not, nor should not, count in war matchmaking. Otherwise, a clan could simply disband and reform every so often, to avoid the clans with a lot of wins. In other words, it's too easily manipulated.

First off hounds DO NOT need more dps, theyre a tank not dps. But health boost wouldnt be frowned upon:cool: Oh and goodluck on the queen, just for your suggest she will officially have a favorite target of "walls, all of them"

Now defense bonus is something i think needs to happen lol, and hey i love my red headed stepchild so paying less for child support is always good in my book

Always wondered why there wasn't more goblin villages to attack, the reset would be nice and very much appreciated maybe even at less loot i dont care just could use some extra loot. Um sorry i think lvl3 witches would end up being too OP as that many skeletons would just be obnoxious

Ah yes more achievements please, and i like that you picked hard ones at that, give us something to work for. Ive always been a quest kind of guy rather than a grind person. Sorry dont war enough to comment.

we dont need lower spell costs, just need them to cost gold again, the time however would be nice.
yes, please do discount slightly for boosting all at once i wondered why this wasn't the case when they added the feature but i guess it was to make us dream.

all around nice suggestions, i think this may actually belong in the ideas/request section.

P.S. Would like to add healers should be multi target already, might need to weaken the healing per second though to combat it being OP.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

Lava hounds were never meant to take out air defenses. They simply go toward them, to get to the center of the base, in order to distract the defenses long enough, for your other troops to do the same.

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Hiya, thank you for responding!

I do agree with the fact lava hounds are mainly a distraction. So are golems in GoWiWi and GoWiPe. The difference is the following: golems have cannons (64 dps) against them which hounds do not while hounds have airdefence against them (240 dps). Nevertheless their dps is lower and the hp of maxed hounds and golems is identical. I hope that clarifies my point a bit.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

I do like the idea of defensive rewards. However, instead of loot, I would simply prefer for a successful defense to reset my traps and reload defensive ammo, automatically, at no charge.

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Yes, but I have a feeling that doesn't give much freedom. If I get attacked and win once, that's fine as one attack leads to one rearm and reload. But if you win more than once, you don't gain anything. The loot gained can be used to rearm and reload as well but gives you the freedom to chose what to spend it on and gives you the incentive to win multiple defenses. Townhalls on the outside will also be as common as today because winning won't change anything for them (trap etc. don't get used).

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

It takes more than two weeks for most people to finish the goblin missions. Resetting them every season would mean that most people would never see the end.

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As I am one of the people convinced the loot problem isn't a loot problem but a loot injection problem. Seasonal goblin missions will make that possible. The incentive is loot and the achievement, but there are no repercussions for not doing goblin missions. You can only gain, not lose. On top, most of these can be done with loonions.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

War wins do not, nor should not, count in war matchmaking. Otherwise, a clan could simply disband and reform every so often, to avoid the clans with a lot of wins. In other words, it's too easily manipulated.

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Fair point, it can potentially be manipulated. Do you have any ideas to factor in skills? Some clans have people with highlevel bases with no heavy army skills, while others might have never farmed but can use the highlevel armies with an extraordinary amount of skills. Would love your ideas on that!

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

First off hounds DO NOT need more dps, theyre a tank not dps. But health boost wouldnt be frowned upon:cool: Oh and goodluck on the queen, just for your suggest she will officially have a favorite target of "walls, all of them"

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The dps is extremely low on the hound, I think they would need arouns 45 seconds to take one airdefence down. But I am glad we agree on the increased health as that's the main point!

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Now defense bonus is something i think needs to happen lol, and hey i love my red headed stepchild so paying less for child support is always good in my book

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Valkyries just get no love eh!

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Always wondered why there wasn't more goblin villages to attack, the reset would be nice and very much appreciated maybe even at less loot i dont care just could use some extra loot. Um sorry i think lvl3 witches would end up being too OP as that many skeletons would just be obnoxious

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Yes, less loot is fine as long as some new way of loot injection is introduced. I don't think level 3 witches would be OP as in my thoughts they would have the same HP, but spawn 1-2 skelly's extra. They die as quick. I should have clarified that in my original post though!

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

Ah yes more achievements please, and i like that you picked hard ones at that, give us something to work for. Ive always been a quest kind of guy rather than a grind person. Sorry dont war enough to comment.

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Couldn't agree more. I have put some effort in thinking of these achievements (and the clever names).

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

we dont need lower spell costs, just need them to cost gold again, the time however would be nice.
yes, please do discount slightly for boosting all at once i wondered why this wasn't the case when they added the feature but i guess it was to make us dream.

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Due to the reduced hero regen time, spells make people wait for their army. Even when boosted. In a GoWiPe with 4 pekka's, the spells are more than half the cost.

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

all around nice suggestions, i think this may actually belong in the ideas/request section.

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I was considering it, but I concluded in my original post to post it here. If I'm wrong, I hope a kind mod moves it!

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

P.S. Would like to add healers should be multi target already, might need to weaken the healing per second though to combat it being OP.

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Don't shoot me if I'm wrong, but aren't they doing splash heal already?

Thank you!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

I like all of these ideas and totally agree with them all, and to answer the question... Yes healers do splash damage already. I on the other hand think spells are fine as they are and should not be changed back to gold, however a cost and time decrease would be nice. 😊

War Wins and losses should not be taken into account, what should IMO be taken into account is if the Royals are upgrading. Your offensive power should be calculated as less if your King or Queen is upgrading during the war.

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Originally Posted by Clashalldaycpb

I like all of these ideas and totally agree with them all, and to answer the question... Yes healers do splash damage already. I on the other hand think spells are fine as they are and should not be changed back to gold, however a cost and time decrease would be nice. 😊

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As do I, gold is used on defenses and walls while elixir is used on armies (and spells) and walls. Since the last update allows people to use elixir for walls, I am more inclined to say to keep spells in elixir as people will need gold more than they need elixir.

Thank you for chipping in!

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by willsolvit

War Wins and losses should not be taken into account, what should IMO be taken into account is if the Royals are upgrading. Your offensive power should be calculated as less if your King or Queen is upgrading during the war.

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Yes, with that feature I wanted to calculate the skillset into the war opponent matchup. As has been stated previously, it isn't quite up to par so I agree with you. I don't think whether or not your royals are upgrading should be taken in account as then all defenses upgrading should also be taken into account. The royals, even one level lower, are still active on defense. On top, it doesn't adress the issue I wanted to adress: taking into account the skillset. I like the idea though, but I kindly disagree.

Thank you for your opinion though, I'll take the wins/losses idea out once there is a plausible alternative.

King Midas
Insurgence Family

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Originally Posted by Clashalldaycpb

I like all of these ideas and totally agree with them all, and to answer the question... Yes healers do splash damage already. I on the other hand think spells are fine as they are and should not be changed back to gold, however a cost and time decrease would be nice. 😊

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I haven't used them in so long i forgot lol, but it says area splash which means small area, i want more of a multi target system like infernos have so healers can help that troop that decided to be Rambo. Would make them much better on defense too as 1 healer could potentially heal both heroes at the same time(seeing lots of people say they dont like cc troops just the royals).