How can i punish those stinking zappers?

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Originally Posted by DrSeuss

But it shouldn't be. All the glitches that have been fixed or issues resolved with updates were also "part of the game". Should those have stayed?

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Glitches aren't intended game mechanics. Lightning spell damaging storage units and raking resources as a result is.

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Originally Posted by Freakimus

Lol you asked for a quote and he provided it. But since it didn't support you then in your eyes it didn't "substantiate" anything. Just like the poll doesn't mean anything to you because it doesn't support your position. You are thicker headed than even i am!

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He said that its not going to happen, to provide a quote for that it would have to be one that said it was ruled out, he didn't provide a quote for that. I asked for a quote because he was making false statements, not because his quote would invalidate mine or anyone else's argument. So don't worry about it you are still the thick one here.

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Originally Posted by Freakimus

Glitches aren't intended game mechanics. Lightning spell damaging storage units and raking resources as a result is.

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"All the glitches that have been fixed or issues resolved". Guess which one he regarded zapping storages to be?

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Originally Posted by Gama321

"All the glitches that have been fixed or issues resolved". Guess which one he regarded zapping storages to be?

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Zapping is part of the game because Supercell designed it that way. They don't consider it to be an "issue" that needs to be resolved. This was further confirmed when Steve said that they have no plans to change it.

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Originally Posted by Reefus

Now your argument is that it's not viable to trophy push via zapping. Before you were arguing it's not possible. I was just pointing out that you werent even being accurate in making your argument. I personally don't think spending hours of your time and tens of thousands of your elixir for less than a thousand de is a viable way to farm but that's beside the point. Because any similarity or difference between the two is incidental as they are two completely different systems that operate in completely different ways.

The problem youre having is that the two practices are completely different. Zapping one of nine storages shouldnt be compared to zapping a townhall for cups. It makes no logical sense as much as you try to shoe horn them together. If there was one single storage and one single type of resource maybe your analogy would be somewhat relevant. But right now your entire argument is flawed because you're comparing two things that are fundamentally different.



Zapping is not ruining farming. You know how I know? Everyone is able to farm and obtain their building objectives. Even among zapping complainers, Ive never heard one say it's ruining the game until now. It's been what two years since lightning had been the game? If the spell is ruining the game for you it's going about it very slowwwwwwly. In a couple more years you may even be ready to quit! What I am saying is that it is just as ridiculous to say that de zapping ruins the game any more than th9s attacking me when I was th8.



Yeah? Im in masters 3 and haven't been zapped for de in 6 or 7 hundred cups. You stop saying ridiculous things like lightning is ruining farming. Or that zapping de storages in gold 3 is somehow the same as hypotjetically zapping a townhall above 4000 cups for a star.

A th9 farming weak th8s in silver or gold and getting mad about zapping is like a th7 in crystal 1 being upset that th9s can 3 star him for 50 cups with barch.



It's not relevant but it's also not the same. Your orginal argument was that the common ground between farmers and pushers is they want either loot or cups. Somehow you jumped to the conclusion that de storages and townhalls should be treated the same with regards to zaps. I was merely trying to point out that in war you arent raiding for cups at all. Yeah you get stars but there is no individual cup gain, winning occurs by team aggregate star count. And often times you arent coming out ahead in resources, if you donate heavily youre often just exchanging elixir and de for gold.

You can have whatever opinion you want about zapping. Don't get snarky with me because your insistence on trying to equate de storages and townhallls makes no sense whatsoever. Youve posted that argument several times in these threads and I cant recall anyone ever agreeing with your premise.

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Its not viable to push by zapping TH2s because guess what? you wont get beyond 400 cups or so.
Its not about zapping one storage, its about zapping resources. Since people raid for resources or cups they are entirely comparable. Raiding with just spells was prevented on the pushing front, which shows that SC don't want people raiding with just spells, but raiding with just spells still happens when farming.
Speaking about costs is also irrelevant, santa surprise took 25 hours to make but it was still patched.
I never said its ruining the game, I said its not good for the game and explained why by comparing it to zapping THs (which was possible at one time, so its not like I'm making up something that didn't exist, and I meant as a means of pushing, not zapping th2s to get into bronze league).

Again, pushing with just spells was prevented due to the negative effect it had on raiding, raiding wasn't meant to be done with just spells. Zapping de is the same, it has a negative effect on raiding, as people are raiding with just spells (plus maybe a couple troops to take the th to preserve cups but that isn't relevant to the action of taking de with just spells).
I will repeat, the link between them is that they are both raided for. Simply saying that you cant compare them doesn't refute that. I don't expect you to understand this anymore however.
And then you keep talking ♥♥♥♥ about war and costs which is irrelevant, I don't know why and I honestly don't care anymore.

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

Zapping is part of the game because Supercell designed it that way. They don't consider it to be an "issue" that needs to be resolved. This was further confirmed when Steve said that they have no plans to change it.

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You're just twisting his quote, he also said its annoying which could mean he does see it as an issue :rolleyes:.
That's besides the point, I'm saying the person who was quoted was saying that he felt it was an issue, he mentioned glitches as he was referring to how all undesirable parts of the game would still be here if everyone just accepted it as 'part of the game', and was saying that it being part of the game is no reason not to change it if it is an issue.
Of course you don't see it as an issue but he clearly did, and people have different arguments for thinking what they do, however it "working as intended" or being a" part of the game" doesn't constitute an argument.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Raiding with just spells was prevented on the pushing front, which shows that SC don't want people raiding with just spells, but raiding with just spells still happens when farming.

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Because the resource system and the trophy system are completely different. Lightning works as it was designed to. Storages give up resources when damaged as designed to. You keep making your argument though.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Speaking about costs is also irrelevant, santa surprise took 25 hours to make but it was still patched.

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You keep talking about santa strike. I thought this thread was about zapping. I dont know about the exploit that you keep talking about but supercell doesnt want people to completely destroy a townhall with a spell. They dont want you to completely destroy a storage with a spell either. But they apparently dont mind you getting a portion of the resources in a storage with a bunch of spells. You know why? Resources and cups are completely different systems.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

I never said its ruining the game, I said its not good for the game and explained why by comparing it to zapping THs (which was possible at one time, so its not like I'm making up something that didn't exist, and I meant as a means of pushing, not zapping th2s to get into bronze league).

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Yes you did. Post 109 in this thread: you said they stopped letting people ruin raiding for cups with spells. You implied they are ruining raiding for resources by not treating zaps on de storages the same. And putting aside that your baiting and switching spells to make your point: pushing cups with santa strike, a spell available 3 or 4 weeks out of the year, is hardly what I would call viable.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

Again, pushing with just spells was prevented due to the negative effect it had on raiding, raiding wasn't meant to be done with just spells. Zapping de is the same, it has a negative effect on raiding, as people are raiding with just spells (plus maybe a couple troops to take the th to preserve cups but that isn't relevant to the action of taking de with just spells).

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What is the negative effect that zapping has on raiding other than it gets you worked up enough to complain in three different zap threads on the forum. Because it upsets you doesnt mean its having any sort of impact on raiding. Perhaps the game is just too hard for you.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

I will repeat, the link between them is that they are both raided for. Simply saying that you cant compare them doesn't refute that. I don't expect you to understand this anymore however.

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Thats nice that you raid for both. Except I dont see many other similarities. All my cups arent kept in 10 buildings though. And I dont have cup collectors constantly producing cups. And I dont raid for three different types of trophies. And there is no leader board for the resources I earn through raiding. Yeah you raid for cups and you raid for resources. It doesn't mean the two should be treated the same.

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Originally Posted by Gama321

And then you keep talking ♥♥♥♥ about war and costs which is irrelevant, I don't know why and I honestly don't care anymore.

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Because youre wrong about that too.

Just the fact you keep responding with personal attacks makes me think you havent really thought out your argument. Your analogy just makes no sense with respect to the mechanics of the game.

Other than loot threads, zapping treads seem to be the other common topic of the forums. This is just my opinion and if in posting in the wrong part of the forum or have misused the forums I apologize, but this is simply my option.

Ok, so people complain they get "zapped" for their dark elixir a LOT. My DE storage gets zapped ALL THE TIME.

Important info:
1. My TH is in the open (unprotected)
2. I'm TH 9 ranging in trophies from 1800-2000
3. I attack a LOT
4. I don't complain when people "zap" my DE... I just revenge them

Now the important part of my post is my theory which I will now present.

People that complain about their DE being zapped commonly have their TH unprotected looking for an easy shield (I'd say about 98% of complainers) that being said, you shouldn't really be complaining if you're getting "zapped" simply for the fact that you're looking for an EASY shield and someone who is TH snipping came along and also zapped your DE.

Note: the revenge button will allow you to zap them in return

I would bet money if people put their THs in the middle of their base it would reduce "zapping" by at least 90%.

The most important thing I want to say and have already said but will say it again because its that relevant:

If you have your TH UNPROTECTED and you're looking for an easy shield... You deserve to be zapped. (:

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Originally Posted by Grill

If you have your TH UNPROTECTED and you're looking for an easy shield... You deserve to be zapped. (:

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I'm ok with that too. 1,000 odd de for a shield? Fair trade if you ask me.

I don't think zappers care if th is protected or not, they are mostly th7 and th8 that want to get about 1000 de...but 1800-2000 is low trophy range for a TH9, so you are already picking on them...you deserve to be zapped....

The people that complain would hate that even more because then they get zapped all the time with no shield

I don't care if I get zapped, but what I do is I keep my TH protected during the day, I found it takes a few hours for me to get raided with the occasion quick hit. At night I expose my TH for hopefully a snipe if I have loot to avoid coming back to tons of trophies but lots of resources lost...

I lost almost 800k elixir/gold and 4k dark after repeated raids one night...

If I get zapped I try to destroy them, but lately it hasn't been worth wasting an attack, maybe because I have those L5 dark drills humming...