No loot, no buying gems

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Originally Posted by hb808

No, you just agree with it.

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Or it makes perfect since in correlation to what is being discussed.

Or, you just disagree with it!

^^see what I did there? Omgomg

Also, good job ignoring the actual points of my post (again).

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Originally Posted by hb808

No, you just agree with it.

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Disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, again. I never expected anything different. ;)

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Originally Posted by Shady80

His analogy is spot on. If you don't understand it then thats your problem. People spend money on a service and they expect it to function in a reasonable manner without constantly having setback after setback. This is no different than if you bought a car that is advertised at 40 mpg, yet every time you take it in for maintenance they tell you they've "improved" it's performance, though what they didn't tell you is it gets 2mpg per gallon less every time it is serviced.

My prior example was concerning the times they assigned to dark troops to begin with. A level 3 dragon upgrade took 10 days, compared to a worthless level 2 minion upgrade that took 14. Mine upgrade times rendered them unprofitable for 20+ days once you upgraded past level 9 due to the resource loss during your upgrade time, etc etc etc. My point is that a little thought up front would've let them get it right the first time. Instead, they put stuff into the game and make it as ridiculous as they possibly can, which strikes me as them seeing what the players will actually "bite on" and what they won't. If something was TOO ridiculous, they eventually change it after months of complaining. If they'd just try to get things right the first time instead of hyping up every update only to let people down then things would go a lot smoother.

How could they misjudge things this badly?

14 days on minions reduced to 5?
4 hour spells reduced to 30 minutes?

These are no minor miscalculations. These are examples of them giving absolutely no thought to the game from a PLAYER perspective, which is the entire problem.

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Agreed on the constant tweaking being absurd, especially in regards to research times. They obviously jack the time way up after releasing the update, counting on those top players to instantly gem, after which they reduce times to a somewhat more reasonable amount. However, after being duped several times I now just try and wait for a couple weeks for times to normalize.

I am TH 9 and i have no problem with raiding for gold. Maybe you are bad attacker or your cup is too high. I got minimum 3 mils a day.

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Originally Posted by trantatchien

I am TH 9 and i have no problem with raiding for gold. Maybe you are bad attacker or your cup is too high. I got minimum 3 mils a day.

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You've missed the entire point. No matter how much you make, you're automatically making less than you were before the last update due to the added penalty. Since the reason given for this penalty was complete nonsense, there was no reason for the change other than to further slow down an already tedious game.

"You can't always get what you wantttttt, but if you try sometimes you still don't get what you needddd, aww yehhhh".

I hate change as much as the next guy. However, I was miserable after the update but now i'm back to farming 3 million a day as a TH9. It's possible but you just need to adapt and try to use different techniques and strategies. The resources are there, you just got to know how to get it. I can honestly say I have had to use a whole different stategy and farming range to get back to 3 million a day though.

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Originally Posted by hb808

Exactly. They need to learn how to adapt and overcome. Life gives you a league system. Kick the league in the shorts and dominate everybody else. It sure beats whining about it until you get your way.

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Seriously? I thought you were smarter than that. Adaptation requires a sustainable environment. You can't adapt to nothing. I'm not saying there's nothing to adapt to but it just too little, and it gets tinier and tinier with each update.

If I put you on a tropical 2 miles large/wide island? Will you adapt in order to survive? I bet you will. Would you achieve the same on an island that's 2 yards wide? Will you adapt and OVERCOME on that tiny 2 yard island? Really?
Is this analogy good enough for you?

When I started playing (back in August), the "island" was pretty vast, now, after so many nerfs, it became a ... sh*t stain that's not fun/worth adapting to for the most people in here (unless you gem of course).

I wouldn't mind spending GEMS to cut building times if my storages were maxed (due to abundant loot).

Loot is fine.. i have plenty of videos since the update with high loot raids, i haven't noticed any change, maxed collectors still give a ton of loot and there's plenty of bases with them.
Here is a 800k raid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdTk7-9sqKg

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Originally Posted by Rayray83

I felt like I paid for gems more often when my loot stacked. With no loot being available it's taking me more time to get get it.. Therefore not buying gems. Anyone else notice this?

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I had to laugh I mean all you have to do is drop to 1400-1700 and there is so much loot to be taken I am holding 6.5m elixir all from raiding and I get at least a mil a day not hard...