My adventure as a nomad - farming under 200 trophies

Having recently left a clan I helped create, I was in the mood to try farming below 200 trophies because I heard a rumor that there may be some good loot down there. Because most clan leaders have a problem with low trophy counts, I decided going Nomad was the safest and probably most fun way to go about this (Sons of Anarchy Fans will know what I'm talking about).

I've been there for about five days and am happy to report that yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Clause. He doesn't live at the North Pole - he hangs out in COC below 200 trophies.

I have a lot of content to share so I will break this into six parts:

Part 1 - What the?
Part 2 - Things you need to know
Part 3 - Attacking
Part 4 - The spoils
Part 5 - Achievements
Part 6 - More to come


Part 1 - What the?


Sub 200 farmers are a sub-culture in COC. There are no shortage of bases to attack and every day I'm surprised at how easy it is to find good bases to raid. Why are there so many bases sitting below 200 trophies? The main reason is people eventually retire from COC and stop playing. Over time their base gets raided so much that they eventually fall under 200. And there they stay, for eternity.

So why is 200 an important number? Mostly because a new player with a TH1 starts the game at 200 trophies. This is the intial "trophy currency" that allows more trophies to be pumped into the game. Think about it - how could someone accumulate 1,000 trophies unless someone else lost 1,000 trophies? If we all started with zero there wouldn't be any trophies to win.

Those previously mentioned retired players will eventually get attacked even by TH1's and TH2's, reducing their trophies until they fall under that line. Here's a small sample of those retired bases:


http://i.imgur.com/ZDsAWwk.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/cOpg♥♥♥.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6sN8rG6.jpg


The reality is, most of these bases have empty collectors due to constant looting. During my first week of raiding, I found fewer than 10 that were worth attacking. This doesn't stop thousands of players from coming down and trying though - and that's where the real loot can be had. There are a crazy range of bases, from rushed and crappy to super maxed TH10's.



http://i.imgur.com/168vEvL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GxMgOSo.jpg

In case you're wondering... yes, I certainly did attack that base!

http://i.imgur.com/pAwS2A3.png


Staying below 200 trophies takes commitment (described in part 2), and most farmers are pushing hard to save for something big, like archers 6/7, DE troop upgrades, hero upgrades, etc. This means no shortage of bases storing a ton of resources. Check part 3 for a sample of my attack history log and you'll see what I mean.

Before getting started on your own, here are some things worth noting about this farming strategy:

There are no bases between 200-600 worth attacking
I've heard of people giving up when they are dropping trophies because at 250 trophies all they are seeing is TH1 and TH2 bases with zero loot. They figure someone must have tricked them and stop dropping. If you try this, make sure you get below 200. Everything changes immediately once you hit 199-196 trophies.


It's hard to stay below 200 trophies
This was a surprise, to be honest. I classify attackers below 200 trophies into one of the following categories:

1. Low level players who are dropping: strangely enough, even TH4's and below sometimes need to drop trophies to find better loot. I've had dozens of low level players drop a barb and quit.
2. Players like me who are dropping: everyone is struggling to stay below 200 so normal players who might attack me if I had full storages will drop a hero and quit if I don't have enough loot.
3. TH snipers: below 200 trophies there aren't many of these. Heck, below 400 trophies there aren't many of these. So your TH will get sniped eventually, but not nearly as often as you're used to.
4. Attackers: people like me who want to take my loot. With strong TH9 defenses I'm relatively safe but have been hit by a couple of big armies for losses.

If you've ever watched high level attacks on YouTube where players are trying to stay in the top 200, you know that they are often fighting for two or three trophies an attack. This is because Supercell's algorithm makes it continuously harder to gain trophies the higher you go.

The same applies in the opposite direction for losing trophies. When I get down to ~230 trophies and do a hero drop, I only lose 3 trophies. When a low level player (category 1 above) drops a barb on my base and quits, I gain 20-30 trophies.

Also, when you attack and clear 50% or hit a TH, you will gain 10-20 trophies.

Given the factors above, you are in a constant state of having too many trophies. You will spend a lot of time dropping back below 200, but it's well worth it. Here's what your attack log will look like after you've won some loot and are getting ready for the next attack:

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No collectors, only storages
There are so many people farming below 200 that collectors and pumps rarely have loot. I say rarely, because I have attacked at least five or six bases with full collectors. But mainly you'll be going for storages.

This makes heroes important for TH8 and above. It also will mean your army composition is not going to be barch or bam. I go into detail in part 3 for the attacking strategies I'm using


You can have a full clan castle on every raid
Another little sub-culture I didn't know existed - there are hordes of clans that come and go who's sole existence is to donate troops. They are earning achievements or leveling up. You join the clan, request, fill your cc, and leave. That's it.

Even as a Nomad I've enjoyed an extra 30 troops on every raid. Most surprising is the quality of troops. Here is a small sample of my cc after joining these random donation clans before an attack:

http://i.imgur.com/jzaVjXS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/swBP6CL.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fWJLmz2.jpg


The easiest way to find these clans is to "join clan" a few times - they'll usually be near the top and come with a variety of easily identifiable names like:

• Req
• Req and Leave
• Req and ♥♥♥♥
• CCFill
• Donators

I find it easiest to search for words like "req leave" or "req ♥♥♥♥". Don't just join the first one you see, be selective. Some are much better than others. Look for clans that have elders and co-leaders in the 80-100 experience range. You will get level 5, 6, and 7 troops from them. Here's an example of a good one:

http://i.imgur.com/Ng3jZMd.jpg


When you join, don't immediately request. Look to make sure other requests are being filled quickly. Sometimes there aren't any donators around and you'll waste a request (and have to wait 20 minutes). Or even worse you'll end up with a bunch of level 1 troops in your CC from the low level members who joined and haven't been kicked yet.

Here's an example of one you should move on from - notice how none of the requests already there are being filled:

http://i.imgur.com/RGbpCth.jpg

I'll talk a little more about how you can participate more for achievements in part 5.

Some of this stuff is just normal farming strategy, but I included everything for completeness.

Army Composition
After a few days of experimenting I landed on the following army composition. I'm a TH9 with some troops upgraded and some not:

(8) Level 6 giants
(12) Level 5 wbs
(76) Level 5 barbs (currently upgrading in my lab)
(80) Level 6 archers
(1) Level 10 BK
(1) Level 7-8-9 AQ (I've been upgrading her with all the DE)

Total cost: 91,600 elixer

I sometimes go with just 4 giants - they are playing meat shield for the wbs and heroes. The barbs and archers are clearing buildings and coming in behind the heroes to pick up storages. If I use 4 giants I add more barbs and archers. The wbs are important for getting to the middle of the base where the collectors are usually located.

I also have 4 maxed lightning spells with me which get used only occasionally. I'll use two of them to take out a difficult mortar, or one of them to take out cc troops if they are messing up an attack.

You'll see in the attack logs that once in a while I've brought a big army (GoWiPe mostly) - but that's either been for fun or just because I cooked it over night while sleeping. There are opportunities to hit 300K/300K/3K bases with it if you want some practice.


Base selection
If I'm saving elixer specifically I won't attack a base unless there is at least 200K elixer available. I have no trouble finding these.

When going for DE I'll look for a minimum of 800-1000 if it's an easy snipe. If the base has a ton of other loot along with the DE I'll lower my requirement to 400-500 (for example, if a base has 300K gold I'll go for it even if the DE is lower).


Troop conservation
I will also conserve troops if at all possible. If defenses are weak I'll only use 4 giants. I'll only deploy about half the barbs and archers before deciding on dropping the rest. This is really important - don't overkill your attacks. If mortars and wizard towers are lower, you won't need to spam the entire army.

Get in, get the loot, and get out as cheaply as possible. Saving four giants, six wbs, and half your barbs/archers adds up over time. It also means your next attack can happen sooner. It's also sometimes cheaper to drop two lightning spells on a mortar at the back of the base. Your troops in the middle will appreciate it, and you'll use less of them.


Heroes
At TH9 I don't attack without them. I boost the heroes to make sure they are available. The AQ is most crucial - she is the DE assassin. At the end of a raid I've had the AQ take out four storages by herself. For the BK, send 20 barbs with him so when you use his ability he rages a big group. They can take down a lot of defense and storages while raged.

I've tried several raids without the heroes - and it can work. But I find most times I'm wishing I had them available when leaving 300K behind, or not quite reaching the DE storage.


CC awareness
Make sure your CC is full. Those extra troops can make a big difference. Also note what's in your CC. If you are doing this as a Nomad like me, it's pretty random. If I get giants, they get deployed early in the attack. If it's mostly fragile troops then I deploy the CC after the heroes go in.

Okay, the section you really wanted to see, finally. Here is a set of attack histories. Most of these are from the first two or three days because I was so in shock I just kept taking screen captures. I've sliced them together to make it easier to see them - so the times (like 3 minutes ago, 10 minutes ago, etc.) don't really make sense.

I sliced them together because, as mentioned previously, there are 8-10 trophy dump attacks in between each raid. These are real raids though, and pretty typical of my experience so far.

Note that there is a mix of DE snipe raids in here. If gold or elixer look kind of low it's probably because I was going for DE specifically in that raid. Note the trophy range for all of these opponents. They are folks who are farming, have logged off, and been attacked as I described above. That's why the are between 200-300 for the most part.


http://i.imgur.com/BsYPNKk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZNFuipo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pIVtIg5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hPip0DV.jpg


The loot I've gained in 5 days is a little nutty. Somewhere around 18 million gold, 20 million elixer, and 140K DE. I'm about to take my AQ to level 10, she started at level 7 (yes, I gem the time... but not the loot). Archers and barbs to level 6, and my five builders have been busy with big upgrades like Xbows (5 million each).

Yesterday alone I had time to boost my barracks for 4 hours. I farmed 32K DE during that time in an effort to save 50K for my AQ level 10.

In part 5 I'll tell you what I've done with some of the extra elixer beyond wall upgrades (6 new legos so far).

There are several achievements that have come more naturally while farming below 200 trophies. Here is a list of things you can expect:

Unbreakable
There is one positive side effect to the crazy attack spam that happens when you leave your iPad unattended. For hard-core farmers the Unbreakable achievement is really tough to get. I'm on level 2 and need 250 defenses. Because farmers keep their TH outside for the most part, we almost never defend. Most seasons I'll have two or three defenses from people dropping trophies or just doing bad attacks. I've been playing COC for about 8 months and haven't even hit 100 yet.

In five days of living below 200 trophies, I've gone from 94 defenses to 205. Every time I stop playing I get anywhere from 4-12 defenses before someone finally kills my TH. Of course I go from 200 trophies to 320 or so and once again have to hero drop down below 200 the next time I get on to attack.

It's going to be easy getting this achievement due to the dynamics described above.


Friend in Need and XP
If you've read everything above you already know that a key part of going Nomad is joining donation clans. If you're above 60 it's likely that you'll find a donation clan that wants to keep you on "staff". That means you can participate in non-stop rapid fire donations for as long as you want. I've done two sessions like this, each time donating about 3000 troops.

I already had my Friend in Need before starting this - but if you are a few thousand short this is a quick way to get there.

Even better is that with every donation you gain experience points. Want to go from level 80 to 85 as quickly as possible? Just cook and donate for a few days and you'll get there eventually. Plus your own CC will be full the entire time.


Gold grab, Elixer escape, Heroic heist
You'll increase all three of these, especially if you are a TH9/TH10 and sniping storages with ease. For about six weeks before starting this farming strategy I was doing BAM raids in Crystal2. My strategy there was to bank on the loot bonus for most of my profits. It works great, in fact I have another thread on BAM raid strategy that's been popular on the forums.

I still like that strategy but one big drawback is you don't increase these three categories at all. I raided for almost 40 million gold but only 7 or 8 million was from loot, the rest was in the bonus (a million gold bonus for every 20 attacks). Farming below 200 means no loot bonus so everything you gain goes into these three achievement categories.


Humiliator and Conquerer
In this case, also known as the "jerk of the year" :). With all these TH1-TH3 bases sitting down here, I could drop both heros and take out an exposed TH in less than five seconds.

I haven't done it yet because it would mean harder work dropping trophies. But if you really want to get those two achievements you could spend a week or two just crushing townhalls.


Other categories
I've done well in other categories due to some abandoned bases and really rushed TH's. Things like XBow exterminator and Firefighter will go up if you attack the right bases.

I'm going to add more stuff here, videos coming soon!

I've gotten a little bored farming so I am gonna try this. Been playing for 2 years though :cool:

Awesome post !!! Where is the bam guide??

Posting to sub !!! I might go to sub200. Been farming 2200 as a starting th9

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Originally Posted by xQQx

Awesome post !!! Where is the bam guide??

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I updated the post above with a direct link :)

Thx for all the info on sub 200 farming. I was told by a few ppl that only TH8's and under should try it out, your screenshots say different. I'll try it out tonight and let u know how i make out.

And how much it cost nexting?
how many times do you need searching for a good base?

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Originally Posted by timoglopp

And how much it cost nexting?
how many times do you need searching for a good base?

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Great question - I failed to mention this in the original posts. I know folks who haven't tried it will find this hard to believe, but I click the next button far less than when farming with higher level troops in Crystal league. The average probably falls somewhere in the 5-15 range.

I'm planning to do some videos where I do the end-to-end process of joining a request clan, getting troops, and finding a base to attack. That should give people a better idea what to expect.

does this also work for a TH 10 like myself ?

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does this also work for a TH 10 like myself ?

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There's lot of TH9-10 in sub 200. Yes it'll work for you too.

By the way you don't need to stay in sub200 all the time... just go between 197-199 trophies, raid then get back to 300+ troophies, log off wait for another raid.

Another point OP didn't mention is you don't need to win the battle, just raid for loot... so heroes, cc troops & 3-4 spells is not really necessary. Good luck!

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Originally Posted by ForgiveMeNot

Another point OP didn't mention is you don't need to win the battle, just raid for loot... so heroes, cc troops & 3-4 spells is not really necessary. Good luck!

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I don't find this to be true at all. As I mentioned in the original set of posts - the loot below 200 is rarely in collectors, almost always in storages. I've tried raiding without heroes and I don't get even half the loot on most bases.

If I see a base with 300K/300K/2K type numbers I'm more than willing to drop two lightning on a mortar in the back of the base that's going to kill all my archers.

Are there some bases that can be attacked with barch/bam? Yes... but not many from my experience so far. Post some of your attack logs so we can see how much loot you are getting without heroes or spells...

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I don't find this to be true at all. As I mentioned in the original set of posts - the loot below 200 is rarely in collectors, almost always in storages. I've tried raiding without heroes and I don't get even half the loot on most bases.

If I see a base with 300K/300K/2K type numbers I'm more than willing to drop two lightning on a mortar in the back of the base that's going to kill all my archers.

Are there some bases that can be attacked with barch/bam? Yes... but not many from my experience so far. Post some of your attack logs so we can see how much loot you are getting without heroes or spells...

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I farm with 12-16 loons+minions+ 1 healing spell. I don't need heroes to get to core. I prefer save it for dropping trophies.

Here are some vids of my 1 month old account (TH8-9 don't remember) farming in sub 200 3weeks ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T33y...ypnBTpel9RU6PW

But there are bases like this you don't need much to raid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwQ3UsaRbag

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Originally Posted by ForgiveMeNot

I farm with 12-16 loons+minions+ 1 healing spell. I don't need heroes to get to core. I prefer save it for dropping trophies.

Here are some vids of my 1 month old account (TH8-9 don't remember) farming in sub 200 3weeks ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T33y...ypnBTpel9RU6PW

But there are bases like this you don't need much to raid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwQ3UsaRbag

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I've been doing it for about 6 days now, and roughly 300 attacks. I've seen exactly one base like the one you show in the video above. Are you nexting until you find these?

Most of the bases I find with good loot look like this:


http://i.imgur.com/GxMgOSo.jpg


Loons and minions is interesting, but I doubt they are getting all the loot on that base. I got almost 100% of the loot and my AQ did most of the damage on the storages.

By the way, I watched your linked YouTube video. You used three heal spells in that attack and only got 1/3 of the gold. My giant/wb/arch/barb attack would have cost about the same and gotten 100%. You made the point earlier about not needing spells or heroes. I could have gotten 100% of the loot on that particular base with half my army, heroes, and no spells.

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I've been doing it for about 6 days now, and roughly 300 attacks. I've seen exactly one base like the one you show in the video above. Are you nexting until you find these?

Most of the bases I find with good loot look like this:


http://i.imgur.com/GxMgOSo.jpg


Loons and minions is interesting, but I doubt they are getting all the loot on that base. I got almost 100% of the loot and my AQ did most of the damage on the storages.

By the way, I watched your linked YouTube video. You used three heal spells in that attack and only got 1/3 of the gold. My giant/wb/arch/barb attack would have cost about the same and gotten 100%. You made the point earlier about not needing spells or heroes. I could have gotten 100% of the loot on that particular base with half my army, heroes, and no spells.

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No, I didn't next that much. Was a lucky day that i found that base.. but i encountered few similiar bases too, easy farm base, defenses one side and storage at another..

The vid you are talking...Those are lv5 loons from a 1month old base...can't compare max level troops and spells with lv5 loons, lv1 minion & lv2-3 healing spell.. If those were lv6 loons, 100% that base is no problem. Just my 2 cents.

Nice guide buddy but a bit Downside for TH8 folks(like me)is that you are pulling big boys down..my suggestion please delete this thread:-D
I am under 200 trophies and loot available is good mainly through storages..

So far i tried sub 200 3 times.
Twice in th7 in which i farmed horrible bases with 10 goblins for 30-40k each. I couldn't find any de.

I went down again during th8 and the loot was terrible. Even farming fr a hour straight all i could find were a couple max th10s and th9s and a billion 10-20k each loot offers. Still no de. I went back to gold 3 and feasted on collector bases afterwards.


Currently im farming de and from the looks of your logs, there's a lot of de down there. Can you describe how the de is like(from premmie th10s storages or pumps and whatnot) because i couldn't find any.

huh, thats an interesting way to do it. when i was down there it was much the same, but i used only goblins and just non-stop raided the low level bases for, on average, 20-50K each time. my only goal was to get 1K of either each goblin. being able to raid every few minutes, if not not-stop, with this method gives insane loot too. i got most of my walls to level 7 (this was when i played last year) in a week or two, although i was very active. i was also TH7, so i didnt have such a big loot penalty from attacking the low levels.

So would you recommend me going down there or staying in masters? I am a new th9.

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Currently im farming de and from the looks of your logs, there's a lot of de down there. Can you describe how the de is like(from premmie th10s storages or pumps and whatnot) because i couldn't find any.

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It's all in storages, and I have no problem finding 400-1000 on most bases. And there's the occasional 1500-2500 that's worth putting the entire army into snipe mode.

What TH levels do you recommend for sub 200 farming? I'm on a maxed TH6 and I'm not sure if I want to drop trophies or not.

Sub 200 is fun. There's a kind of cheerful anarchy to all the weird bases you'll find. But be advised that staying below 200 is a full time job. Once you log off everybody and their brother will attack you with 1 barb and quit so they can shed trophies and stay below 200. When you log back on, you'll be forced to do the same. It's like perpetual trophy pushing in reverse.

Also, if you want to go back up to normal world you either have to sit and wait for for shedders to push you up a little at a time or you have to raid and 3 star all the way. Option 2 is not a pleasant experience since it involves destroying bases of people who are basically just starting out with troops they may have never even seen yet 5 or 6 trophies at a time.

I have an early th8 and in my opinion unless you are a full time player it's not the right place to be. An early th9 with some six level troops is a nice village to go there and have fun. It took me 45 minutes to go down there from silver II and I really don't recall the time I spent to go back but it has been a nice trip.

For anyone who's willing to go there:
Don't forfait until you breach the 200 trophies line
Be prepared to the endless negative push - - - that's a pain in the axe if you know what I mean
Have very good defense walls and buildings or you will be the one raided for loot most of the time

Here's a status update and quick selection of some nice attack histories along with sample bases.

Quick stats on farming totals:

Gold grabbed: 39 million
DE grabbed: 223K
Attacks defended: 213
Level: started as 93, now 97
Donations: 7,500 (sitting in donation clans waiting for heroes to heal mostly)
18 new legos
Both dark barracks upgrading to lvl6 (7 million elixer)
All new defenses brought up to TH8 max level, started on TH9 upgrades
Archer Queen from level 7 to 10 (gemmed time obviously, but not DE)
Started Golem lvl3 with latest DE loot


Some history from the last 48 hours -

http://i.imgur.com/Jz2gzfZ.jpg



And some sample bases -

http://i.imgur.com/miAL1so.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/QQbveWN.jpg



Yep, I went for it with this army and got most of the DE. I have a video of this one coming soon -

http://i.imgur.com/XEQ1z48.jpg


Great timing on having GoWiPe cooked - just the base I was looking for :)

http://i.imgur.com/FKPrMO9.jpg

Would you recommend going down there as a th10??? Was there as a th7 and loved it very fun. But don't know if it is profitable now??

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Would you recommend going down there as a th10??? Was there as a th7 and loved it very fun. But don't know if it is profitable now??

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You can see two TH10's with a lot of loot in my post from today. There certainly are a ton of TH7 and TH8 bases down here. I come across tough TH9's and TH10's all the time. Not as many obviously, but they are there. And often they are sitting with full storages. You'd need to do higher level attacks with Tier3 and dark units to get at them.

I'll post a video of my raid to get that 3,000 DE in the base above. Give me an hour or so.

Thx for reply, I will check it out..

Here's the replay I promised. Using Tier 1 and Tier 2 troops against a TH10 with Infernos. If you're focused on a specific attack you can make it work. In this case grabbing a little over 3K dark elixer and making enough purple elixer to just about break even on troops and spells. Enjoy!

http://youtu.be/I7F1uwzu2zo

when i first heard about this method, i was extremely excited to test it out. So, half an hour later i was sitting at 198 trophies after dropping from just over 2000. my first quick match search showed some huge loot bases but i only had a few goblins so i couldn't attack. so i started to train my troops then nipped of to grab a bit to eat. however when i got back after 2 minutes, i had been raided FOUR times. in 2 minutes. i was back up to just over 300 trophies without even getting a good raid in. i was feeling grumpy so i went off to bed and when i woke up i was at 850 trophies!!!! what im trying to say that this a very demanding type of farming that requires absolute dedication . i did see some huge loot but i think it is to much effort to spend half an hour every morning toi get down to 200 trophies just for 1 or 2 raids before i have to go off to school!

This is not really the point of sub 200 farming. As people have said original sub 200 was about raiding bad bases with gobs for very little individual loot but doing it so much that it added up. What you are describing is just normal raiding which can be done at higher trophy levels without the hassle of constantly needing to keep your trophies down.

Also what you said about starting the game with 200 trophies is also incorrect as you start with none. Trophies are generated at the sub 1000 trophy level because when you win a battle the defender loses less trophies than you gain.

If you are having success raiding here as you are doing then good luck to you but if this is what sub 200 has become then it has really ceased to exist as the phenomenon it once was.

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when i first heard about this method, i was extremely excited to test it out. So, half an hour later i was sitting at 198 trophies after dropping from just over 2000. my first quick match search showed some huge loot bases but i only had a few goblins so i couldn't attack. so i started to train my troops then nipped of to grab a bit to eat. however when i got back after 2 minutes, i had been raided FOUR times. in 2 minutes. i was back up to just over 300 trophies without even getting a good raid in. i was feeling grumpy so i went off to bed and when i woke up i was at 850 trophies!!!! what im trying to say that this a very demanding type of farming that requires absolute dedication . i did see some huge loot but i think it is to much effort to spend half an hour every morning toi get down to 200 trophies just for 1 or 2 raids before i have to go off to school!

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Did you miss the part in my original post where I said it's hard to stay below 200 trophies? I warned everyone that it takes commitment and longer raiding sessions for this to make sense. The second you log off you'll jump trophies because others are dropping below 200.

Is your town hall outside your walls? I have been doing this for almost two weeks and I've never been above 400 trophies even after being offline all night. The most I've ever seen is around 340-350. I woke up this morning and had 333. Someone always snipes the town hall once I get past 300. And I just timed myself - it took a little less than 2 minutes to drop myself back below 200.

So some of what you say is true, but it certainly doesn't take 30 minutes to drop below 200. I wouldn't have kept doing it for this long if it was that big of a pain.

I also said in my original post that it's not collectors, but storages that have all the loot. Therefore you'd need a bigger raiding army. Strange that you'd spend all that time dropping from 2000 trophies and didn't train an army while you were dropping. I never said you'd be able to raid with a few gobs.

I posted with the intent that people wouldn't run off and try it without reading all the content. That's kind of the point of someone learning a strategy and sharing it. If you don't follow the outline then you won't have the same experience I have had.

I'm still there, 12 days later. I've been playing this game for almost a year and never seen this much loot this easy to find at any trophy level. But I'm glad others are struggling with the strategy - just more loot for me!

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This is not really the point of sub 200 farming. As people have said original sub 200 was about raiding bad bases with gobs for very little individual loot but doing it so much that it added up. What you are describing is just normal raiding which can be done at higher trophy levels without the hassle of constantly needing to keep your trophies down.

Also what you said about starting the game with 200 trophies is also incorrect as you start with none. Trophies are generated at the sub 1000 trophy level because when you win a battle the defender loses less trophies than you gain.

If you are having success raiding here as you are doing then good luck to you but if this is what sub 200 has become then it has really ceased to exist as the phenomenon it once was.

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You are right about the 200 trophy thing. It's been so long since I started the game I forgot we all start at zero. I assumed it was the case because once I go below 200 trophies, I have never once seen a base lower than TH7.

I agree that what I'm doing is normal raiding. However, the big difference between this and being in gold/crystal is the shear amount of bases available to attack. The logs I posted were just a sample from the first 3 days of raiding. I'm hitting the next button between 5-20 times per attack.

I've averaged 5M gold, 6M elixer, and 25K dark elixer per day while being below 200. I've only done boosted raids twice. Otherwise it's just a typical 2-3 raids per hour when my army is ready.

Check these two videos by another player - and tell me which league I can move up to that has consistent bases that look like these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBXvgabT3aI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8wE_9Pqssc

What army composition would you recommend for a th8 without the AQ?

Intriguing to say the least, it may be worth a try sometime, i will definately point some of my clanmates this way.

Thank you for the very educating post.

Cheers.

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You will find a ton of TH7's with full storages below 200. I don't attack them because the loot penalty for TH9 attacking TH7 makes it not worth it.

If I were a TH8 or TH7 I'd cook a standard farming army. Don't attack the maxed TH8's - I definitely need the AQ to get all of the storages on most of them.

With 200 supply cap I'd go with:

8 giants
10 wbs
70 barbs
70 archers

Total cost = 71,000 elixer. Cook time with 4 barracks is going to be around 14 minutes I think. Four attacks per hour.

The only difference with my TH9 army is I have 80 barbs and 80 archers. I also keep my spell factory filled with lightning to take out a splash defense if necessary. Usually a mortar on the opposite side of where I'm attacking is troublesome when my barbs/archers move into the middle. I will only use this tactic when the loot is particularly good - for me that means at least 400K total elixer and gold, and around 1000-1500 DE. Zap a mortar or wiz tower with two lightning. Remember this adds 44K elixer to your costs so only do it on bases that make sense.

Try to conserve wall breakers - only use as many as you need. I often get away with 4-6. I bring 10 just in case a base has great loot in a lot of compartments. I also conserve archers and barbs. Sometimes I only use 20-30 of each, depending on how deep the storages are. Same goes for giants. I come across a lot of bases that have lvl1 or lvl2 defenses. In that case try getting away with four giants.

Remember every troop you don't use is a little more profit on the raid. Don't just spam troops and hope for the best - plan out the attack quickly and try to guess how many you're going to need. Send in more if it looks like it's not going to be enough.

How many th9 and 10s are you seeing down there? Is it enough to make it worth the time to drop down to sub 200?

Shouldn't there be lots of inactives down there? Where have they gone? They're so much less common than they used to be. My theory is SC takes them off the "raidable bases" list after two weeks of not logging on.. Any one have a similar conclusion?

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Shouldn't there be lots of inactives down there? Where have they gone? They're so much less common than they used to be. My theory is SC takes them off the "raidable bases" list after two weeks of not logging on.. Any one have a similar conclusion?

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Technically after 180 days is when SC has legal rights over village if im not mistaken. And to that theory, My theory is that at a certain threshold, the defenses of the dead bases can overwhelm anyone attacking them and win. so they would hover at around 900-1100 trophies, unless th9-10s keep smashing them

Hello, im currently farming under 200 cups and let me tell you its good, not much collector raids so you have to go for storages, i earn per raid over 180k gold and 200k elixir on average, i do recomend farming under 200 cups if u are th9 and th10 because at th8 u can get 100% raided when having full or 50% storages u might get 1 star on every raid thats the hard part but while your army is getting created u can drop trophies with a hero or a couple of barbs to maintain under 200 cups;):D

Love your posts Minpin. I used your BAM info to increase my farming. Pull in a few million of elixir, and gold a night. Might drop down to that area when I get settled into TH9 if I get problems farming. Thanks again for the great posts!

Thanks for your idea, i tried it and must say that you really need to be dedicated for the cause. The constant trophy drops are frustrating. The loot is there but i find it is easier to farm and barch in gold 2/3 level to produce same results.:cool:

Is this useful for TH6 and before? Because I don't want to get there and find that I only find TH8+ with good loot.

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Is this useful for TH6 and before? Because I don't want to get there and find that I only find TH8+ with good loot.

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There are a LOT of TH7's - with great loot. If you're comfortable attacking for TH7 storages then it would be great for a TH6.

Since I did this as a TH9 I'm not sure how many TH6/TH5 bases are sitting down there. You can always give it a try and just leave if it isn't working for you.

How many times do you next on average until you find those types of bases? I'm an early th 7, and I just dropped to 197 trophies.

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How many times do you next on average until you find those types of bases? I'm an early th 7, and I just dropped to 197 trophies.

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Less than 20 nexts, many times less than 5. I left sub 200 about a week ago now so let me know if that's changed.

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Less than 20 nexts, many times less than 5. I left sub 200 about a week ago now so let me know if that's changed.

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At 190-199 trophies, I was having to next about 25 times. I could usually get easy ones by looking at the defense log, the people dropping were usually th 7-10 and had all the loot that you mentioned before.

Hey are you still going to be posting videos? Haha, I've been checking in like every few days since this topic came out waiting for them, I'm going to try farming like this soon.

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Hey are you still going to be posting videos? Haha, I've been checking in like every few days since this topic came out waiting for them, I'm going to try farming like this soon.

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I ended up making one video, even though I have seven or eight saved that I haven't gone through and edited yet. It was posted earlier in the thread, here's a shortcut:

http://youtu.be/I7F1uwzu2zo

Oh wow, I don't know how I missed that. But thank you for re-posting it for me. Very helpful and informative. I'm off to do some killer farming, thanks for the thread.

May I ask you minpin, do I have to get to TH9, or max level troops or anything to farm below 200? Because many people say dropping to very low trophies to farm does not work

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May I ask you minpin, do I have to get to TH9, or max level troops or anything to farm below 200? Because many people say dropping to very low trophies to farm does not work

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I suggest reading the entire thread, as this question is already addressed. I also recommend everyone try it for themselves. What can it hurt?

I haven't been below 200 in about a month - anyone currently there who can share some results? Is the loot still as good as it was when I originally posted this?

after all these updates is sub 200 still worth trying? after the opt in and out update dropping below 200 won't be a trouble but takes time also to get back up, so whts the current scenario?

You left out the BIGGEST part... Very disappointed.

Defense Farming
Below 200 (I went to 0) you get attacked the moment you get off! You didn't mention how you can farm defensive wins here. I personally got 75 in maybe a few hours of doing this without having my townhall in the outside. If you do this long enough; you cns easily farm up the achievement and get the exp aswell as the gems in maybe a 1-2 days top.

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You left out the BIGGEST part... Very disappointed.

Defense Farming
Below 200 (I went to 0) you get attacked the moment you get off! You didn't mention how you can farm defensive wins here. I personally got 75 in maybe a few hours of doing this without having my townhall in the outside. If you do this long enough; you cns easily farm up the achievement and get the exp aswell as the gems in maybe a 1-2 days top.

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I believe it was mentioned somewhere on this thread by minpin. Just too lazy to search the exact page of that post. Lol

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You left out the BIGGEST part... Very disappointed.

Defense Farming
Below 200 (I went to 0) you get attacked the moment you get off! You didn't mention how you can farm defensive wins here. I personally got 75 in maybe a few hours of doing this without having my townhall in the outside. If you do this long enough; you cns easily farm up the achievement and get the exp aswell as the gems in maybe a 1-2 days top.

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I'm disappointed you didn't read the original posts in the thread :rolleyes:. I mapped out the blueprint fairly completely.


In Part 5: Achievements, I certainly covered this: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post3222586


Here's just a small part of that post:

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There are several achievements that have come more naturally while farming below 200 trophies. Here is a list of things you can expect:

Unbreakable
There is one positive side effect to the crazy attack spam that happens when you leave your iPad unattended. For hard-core farmers the Unbreakable achievement is really tough to get. I'm on level 2 and need 250 defenses. Because farmers keep their TH outside for the most part, we almost never defend. Most seasons I'll have two or three defenses from people dropping trophies or just doing bad attacks. I've been playing COC for about 8 months and haven't even hit 100 yet.

In five days of living below 200 trophies, I've gone from 94 defenses to 205. Every time I stop playing I get anywhere from 4-12 defenses before someone finally kills my TH. Of course I go from 200 trophies to 320 or so and once again have to hero drop down below 200 the next time I get on to attack.

It's going to be easy getting this achievement due to the dynamics described above.

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I'm disappointed you didn't read the original posts in the thread :rolleyes:. I mapped out the blueprint fairly completely.


In Part 5: Achievements, I certainly covered this: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post3222586


Here's just a small part of that post:

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Staying under 200 trophies is impossible. Its a nuisance to get there and its impossible to stay there.

I dropped from 2400 trophies to 194 and it took me all morning. then I logged off to have lunch and guess what.

in less than 30 minutes I gained over 500 trophies. I could have guessed it because my phone went nuts every couple of seconds with notifications about your base is being raided. I thought you get 30 min village guard each time you are attached but, I guess you don't get one when people just drop a troop and leave.

So to anyone who think they can stay under 200 trophies easily, think again. I'll try again, but because soooo many people are dropping to sub 200 everyone is attached immediately after they log off. and if I sleep I'll probably have to struggle to get sub 200 again tomorrow.

Been farming at sub 200 for half a month!
Works GREAT !
As a th 7 beginner the minimum loot that i gain is 2.5 gold 2.5 elixir ,1000 de which is pretty coool at this th level.
Earlier I used to farm in the gold 3 league!
Trust me , the sub 200 is way way better than farming at any other league.
The best part is the achievements like the xbow ,th destroyer , defense wins etc.( forgot the real names of these achievements)

I don't see how town hall 10s get down below 200. I've been dropping for the past 2 hours as a town hall 10. I'm at 255 and all I see now is town hall 7's and 8's up in Bronze 1, yielding me a 1 trophy loss or a 55 trophy gain. And every time I hit next I stare at clouds for 30+ seconds. And of course the loot penalty on a town hall 10 vs town hall 7 is atrocious... I would get about 5k elixir and gold and no dark elixir.

oo oo oh oh... just saw a town hall 9 in silver III for a loss of 1 cup and a win for 57 cups... I'm at 235 trophies and still descending :)

So I finally got down to 190

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And what I saw... was simply a bunch of bases in the Silver leagues. Log out and a few minutes later I'm at 687 trophies. There is nothing in the sub 200 range for town hall 10's.

only for th7 and th8