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Say you are trading expansion or building items. Do you tend to trade one item for one item, or are some worth more?
I want to trade someone one item for one item, each selling at maximum price (unless one person is feeling generous). So if I sell you 7 planks of wood, I would expect you to sell me 7 nails.
Is that how it generally works?
Not really. Barn items are generally the most valuable. Most people still expand their barn long after they've decided their silos are big enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessStephanie
Generally, 1 for 1 is a good ratio trading SEM for SEM, BEM for BEM, and LEM for LEM. Mixing types of items, and there's often a ratio involved.
In addition, there's currently a shortage of planks here on the forum. So I'd ask for at least 2 nails for each plank, maybe more.
Town items tend to be the least valued, followed by land items. One barn item can get you 3-5 land or town items, and some people are offering as many as 10.
Oh wow! I guess that makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Janilee
You might find it useful to read the last few pages of the trading thread. That will give you an idea of what ratios people are asking for.
Of course, people can ask for anything they want, and some of them are asking for ratios they'll never get, but it will give you some idea of what people expect.
This being the forum, you're going to get many responses about trading using the trading thread and/or kik. Nothing wrong with that, if that's what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by PrincessStephanie
Many of us just trade within our neighborhood. If you have lots of active players then that can be very efficient. For example, in my neighborhood that chat might read like this:
you: i need 2 planks
me: come
me: omw [on my way]
... you visit my shop, buy two planks, return home...
you: ty [thank you]
me: yw [you're welcome]
It's done in seconds. Note that we didn't waste time negotiating price, or "3 bolts for 2 planks" or any other nonsense. Of course that depends on the neighborhood--in mine we just pay cash, and we pay max so as to not waste time negotiating price either. There are also neighborhoods where everybody sells at default, and some where everybody sells at 1coin. Figure out what you want, and it's out there, if you can find it.
Many people complain in-neighborhood trading limits you to the number of people, which is certainly true, but is fine if your neighborhood has very active people (if it doesn't, find a different one). The other reason I typically hear people say that they don't like this is because the in-game chat censors too much: it can be bad, but if you're talking about buying/selling products then you're fine. If you want to discuss politics or things of a more personal nature than it is indeed a bad chat system. But if you're neighbors are there to play hay day then it's not a problem: on average I probably see less than 1 message get <bleep>ed out per day, and if you're talking about products people usually know what you mean without you needing to fix it. And of course one or two people have tried to explain to me that I am morally deficient for participating in sales at max price :)
I know you're not at that level yet, but you will be soon.
That's kind of how it is in my neighborhood. Occasionally we'll do actual trades (usually for a very large number of items), but mostly we have a rule that once you're within 10 items of expanding, you should just ask for the items.
For coins...we usually do it at default because it's easier, but if I'm dealing with a low-level neighbor, I sell at 1 coin because they don't have coins. If you're giving a level 30 player 200 land expansion items, they usually can't afford even default prices, let alone max.
I've also seen another model that looks interesting. Call it a barn-raising. You take turns expanding your barn. When it's your turn, you tell people want you need, and they give you all they have until you can expand. Then it's the next person's turn. When it's not your turn, you give all the items you have to the person whose turn it is. Requires a certain amount of trust, but people expand very quickly this way.
Wow, that's an excellent idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by Janilee
In my hood, 2 people take turns collecting and trading. Say i want to expand my barn and player x want to expand their silo, we would give each other what they needed when we got that item even if they needed 40 of everything and i only needed 20. I hope you can find a good hood to help you. Or get some good help in the trading posts.
It may take time to find a neighborhood that's a good fit. Just keep trying.
Also...be careful about neighborhoods set up just for trading. Many are fine, but many are scams, too. Scroll down and read the warnings at the bottom of this page:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...k2o/edit#gid=0
I like the barn raising idea, but have questions.
Background: in my NH I don't recall ever seeing a problem with players feeling that somebody else was hogging items (except for one obvious "taker" that we evicted after a day). And while there is almost always somebody on, we have people from all over the world, so there are also always people sleeping/working/etc.
So any advice for the barn raising model there? For example, if the person whose turn it is for the barn raising is sleeping, and I have bolts, and my barn is full, ... ?
And any words of wisdom on coordinating who is next?
I guess we could just combine the things: as co-leader and statistician I can imagine that I would keep the public list of "who is next". And maybe instead of having one person "next" we could just have multiple.
Having said that, I am leery of introducing this in my neighborhood even though it sounds like a good model: everybody gets along and seems to both offer and request help. So introducing this now may just add process to something that isn't broken.
I think you would probably need to have a very well-balanced NH for it to work. Either that, or a larger group than a NH. (Like a Facebook group, or maybe a forum group.)
My NH tends to be bolt-heavy, with not many plank farms. :p
As for who goes first...you might start in order of farm level. Lowest first, maybe. Anyone joining later goes to the end of the line.
When it's your turn, you have to be around to collect the items. If you're not, your turn is skipped. There's always next time.
I think the biggest problem would be that some people have such huge barns. It might not seem fair that you need 20 bolts to expand, and the next person needs 200. Though presumably they'd be able to help more, too.
I've also seen some groups handle it by having one or two people with huge barns store items for the rest.
We have 21 neighbors in my hood. When we are trading ( barn raising) and somebody is missing somebody else will takes the stuff and passes it on when said player gets back later that day or the next morning. We have been lucky that nobody steals anything during trading, we are a big happy family.