Following the pattern of buff and then nerf, this is what is next

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November 10th, 2014
gorzo93

Following the pattern of buff and then nerf, this is what is next

So I looked at previous updates and saw that there is a very distinct patten: Supercell likes to buff troops and then nerf them!

Examples are:

Pekka: make her immune to springs, increase her speed, and then decrease health!

X-bow: add more levels, and then decrease range and ammo capacity!

Hogs: decrease housing space, change target to defence first, decrease training time, increase damage, and then decrease HP, decrease HP again, increase training cost, take more damage from giant bombs!

Heroes: decrease regen times, introduce hero abilities, and then decrease (all?) stats dramatically!

You may ask, "who cares?" Well, if we go by the pattern above we will be seeing some further nerfs probably to the following troops:

Valks - these have been buffed constantly since they were introduced.

giants - these have been buffed multiple times.

Dragons - these have been buffed before.

Balloons - these have been buffed before.
November 10th, 2014
Pranav

Didn't PEKKA health INCREASE? I never saw anything about X-Bows getting nerfed! The only change to balloons was decreased train time, right?
November 10th, 2014
gorzo93

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Originally Posted by Pranav

Didn't PEKKA health INCREASE? I never saw anything about X-Bows getting nerfed! The only change to balloons was decreased train time, right?

Pekka health decrease November 2012

Xbows were nerfed as described above.

Balloons got splash damage on death and decreased training time.
November 10th, 2014
Slaskio

No game is perfect right away, and were lucky to have multiple balances with every update. Yes some "balances" may seem like OP or completely nerf, but when you compare them to what they were before it needed to be done. If this is your first game with constant buffs and nerfs, then i can understand, but i dont see a problem with any of these balances. Maybe one day when this game is long dead, theyll have the perfect balance, but by then who cares. The horror of starting a game that isnt finished yet, it happens.
November 10th, 2014
Sirix

Hogs definitely needed the nerf though. With the luxury to plan and pick targets in clan wars, and especially with spying, 3 starring people 2 TH levels above you wasn't impossible

It would be better if buffs/nerfs were less extreme so that there isn't a massive riot and so that people could slowly get used to the changes
November 10th, 2014
BlueBoss

Valks could do with a buff. Very under-appreciated troop
November 10th, 2014
gorzo93

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Originally Posted by BlueBoss

Valks could do with a buff. Very under-appreciated troop

No they are ridiculous as they are!
November 10th, 2014
scanners107

valks dont need a buff they just need to be cheaper/quicker made.
November 10th, 2014
gorzo93

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Originally Posted by scanners107

valks dont need a buff they just need to be cheaper/quicker made.

By buff I mean improvement.
November 10th, 2014
Lexthetrex

They should buff lava hounds by increasing the damage or decreasing the speed.
November 11th, 2014
gorzo93

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Originally Posted by Lexthetrex

They should buff lava hounds by increasing the damage or decreasing the speed.

Yep I agree to buff by reducing speed. But what will be nerfed after? Maybe they will make it have less health?
November 11th, 2014
Sgruenler3

Valks still aren't cost or time efficient, and they aren't close either. In my opinion, they are a novelty troop or just thrown in with GoWiWi or GoWiPe.
November 11th, 2014
Slaskio

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Originally Posted by Sgruenler3

Valks still aren't cost or time efficient, and they aren't close either. In my opinion, they are a novelty troop or just thrown in with GoWiWi or GoWiPe.

So wizards arent a novelty troop but valks are even though valks have a better time/space? Valks just need a health boost to compensate for the time lost when running between buildings. Valks are good and i believe everyone should have at least 1 in their army if anything for killing cc troops after you lure them. Give them a GOOD try if you haven't done so yet.
November 12th, 2014
gorzo93

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Originally Posted by Slaskio

So wizards arent a novelty troop but valks are even though valks have a better time/space? Valks just need a health boost to compensate for the time lost when running between buildings. Valks are good and i believe everyone should have at least 1 in their army if anything for killing cc troops after you lure them. Give them a GOOD try if you haven't done so yet.

Stop trying to start fights lol. You know that wizards are the normal troops in two of the most popular attack strategies: gowipe and gowiwi.
November 12th, 2014
STEVENX

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Originally Posted by Lexthetrex

They should buff lava hounds by increasing the damage or decreasing the speed.

How would decreasing the speed be a buff?
November 12th, 2014
Naz

The only thing they nerfed that they shouldnt have is the economy...loot!

The rest are changes that needed to be made to balance the game!
November 12th, 2014
Sirix

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Originally Posted by STEVENX

How would decreasing the speed be a buff?

Tanks running far ahead of the attackers isn't a good thing so slowing is a buff in that situation. While you can release the troop later, it's a bit harder to judge when is a good time and the dragons would be getting hit by other towers during that period of time
November 12th, 2014
gorzo93

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Originally Posted by Sirix

Tanks running far ahead of the attackers isn't a good thing so slowing is a buff in that situation. While you can release the troop later, it's a bit harder to judge when is a good time and the dragons would be getting hit by other towers during that period of time

Absolutely correct. For golems not such a problem if they were too fast due to walls slowing them down, but with no walls to stop hounds it is a massive problem.
November 12th, 2014
Jappchillin

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Originally Posted by gorzo93

Absolutely correct. For golems not such a problem if they were too fast due to walls slowing them down, but with no walls to stop hounds it is a massive problem.

Really not that hard to deploy loons/drags first and than do the hound. Hound hasn't let me down yet maybe get some more practice in before you judge?
November 12th, 2014
brein

Nerf gems. OMG! They're OP!!!
November 12th, 2014
willsolvit

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slaskio

No game is perfect right away, and were lucky to have multiple balances with every update. Yes some "balances" may seem like OP or completely nerf, but when you compare them to what they were before it needed to be done. If this is your first game with constant buffs and nerfs, then i can understand, but i dont see a problem with any of these balances. Maybe one day when this game is long dead, theyll have the perfect balance, but by then who cares. The horror of starting a game that isnt finished yet, it happens.

This, looking back at the OP most of those needed to happen. Pekkas being immune to spring traps aren't buffing them but fixing something that's broken. Heroes were pretty OP and still kinda are.
November 12th, 2014
CloudGigaTitan

Well they've nerfed the loot system several times but I've yet to see a buff on that so there can't be any pattern at all.
November 12th, 2014
gorzo93

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Originally Posted by Jappchillin

Really not that hard to deploy loons/drags first and than do the hound. Hound hasn't let me down yet maybe get some more practice in before you judge?

I don't use them lol. It's just the general opinion that I am expressing.

I see no use for them to be honest. Very easy to two star max town hall 10s with dragons, or with gowipe. Why would I change my strategies?