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I would advise to restart your village...Quote:
Originally Posted by agentgforce
While It's possible, but I think It will takes more time to recover your village rather than starting the new one.
To reset village, you have to do factory reset on your iDevice
Would I be able to retain my apps, photos, and all my other stuff currently on my iDevice?Quote:
Originally Posted by sharonsym
Other opinions, please? (leaning strongly towards restarting, although I waste a good amount of money on gems - being stupid like everyone else that's been duped)
Ouch. a restart is probly best, that is extremely premie....
BUT, if you want to slog through it and pull off the incredible. Pick a farming strategy you want to use. lets say BAM (barbarian, archer, minion). Upgrade the lab and then the levels on those 3 troops to max. Plant you'r other 2 army camps and max those. Make sure you have both dark barracks. If you are willing to buy more gems then use them on doing that. once that is done regardless of how low everything else is, you'll still have the capability to BAM as well as anyone. Do you have alot of play time? If you do, drop to sub 200 trophies and Just BAM the heck out of everyone that nets you a profit, using minions sparingly. Slowly but surely you will eventually start to get where you need to be.....
I agree with sharonysm and nikkisixx101, it's better to start over.
At this point, your option is to prey on other premmie bases only and not going anywhere higher than silver league, which would net you a minimal amount of loot for TH 10. While being trashed by anyone with TH higher than 6.
It will be too long and tedious to get you to say, a decent TH 8 defenses, though it is possible if you want to play non-stop like, 6 hrs a day.
Another option is, of course, to spend lot of gems to get you a decent upgrade for troops (at least to lvl 5).
The road is going to be really tough my friend. Try to get your barbs and archers up ASAP and keep hanging there with Barch. I haven't really seen such a premmie TH9 (no offense), keep hanging and all the best !Quote:
Originally Posted by ConcoursRider
Is sounds like a lot of people are mad because they're scared to attack people with th 10s, and people go to get infernos and xbows before they max all their defences. there is nothing wrong with an underdeveloped th 9 or 10, there may be a limit to how weak the other defences are against certain troops, but in reality, those xbows and infernos stop most people from 3starring bases.Quote:
Originally Posted by HikinenPorsas
If you are an underdevoped th 9 or 10, don't give up, try using 20 giants, 10wb, 40barbs and rest archers and pref a rage and heal spell, you should be able to get good money, don't wait for a 400k base, get more 200k bases, and save gold on searching.
Go to masters and above and you hardly win any defence with all maxed defences, instead of risking losing money if you're farming, just put your town hall outside and rely on the 9/10 chance that someone will just hit the th, give you a shield, and not take any money.
why would you tell people to even consider deleting their base? It is stupid, are you trying to convince people who have spent money on this game to not spend any and start over, I'm sure people spend money on a tv, console to play games, but this is a free game, and people pay for their game with gems.
I am completely against the idea that it is wrong to upgrade th until all your defences are maxed, you would lose more money and time you could be upgrading those extra defences, walls, troops, instead of having to save a few million each time for those last few defences.
Hey Hannibal :P It is me :D I decided to start up a forum account and see what all the hoopla is about so here I am. Great post by the way! Don't know why I was reading it since I'm not rushed and won't be but it was a good post anyways.
nice thread!
Thanks a ton :D
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by ConcoursRider
Yeah see that black badge, with the I in the middle? Ur going up there to farm rushed th10. Theres all trophy pushers (th9-10) who leav there recources outside and good league bonuses.
I am guilty. I saw all the nice weapons and bonuses I could get leveling up on my TH. The best advice I seen was that I should keep the coffers empty. So Ima use that advice and continue to upgrade the rest of my camp.
I did the exact same thing when I started and it has been a pain, but you are going to have to make sure you leave you TH out undefended and hope for mostly Th snipes and free shields. Just make sure you spend as much of your Gold as you can before you log off each time so you won't be such a prime target. Good Luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoardGuest808888
Yes. With the right method, almost any premmie base can be recovered.
Hey guys,
New to the forums and wanted to get some advice on how premature my base is and how it can be fixed. Thanks
Everything is fixable, and that isn't too bad anyway. First step, drag that town hall outside and start enjoying those free shields. Then focus on your offense, especially on maxing your key farming troops (barbs, archers, giants, gobs, wallbreakers).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mbchang
Thanks. What defenses should I upgrade first? I also have a town hall level 6 fully maxed out where I can restart from there and move on. Should I continue with TH8 or go back to TH6? ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Pete82
You better continue. No point in restarting this. You already have maxed army camps, all you have to do is upgrade your troops' level, then start working on defenses. Mortar, wizard tower will be your focus. And for walls I recommend get wt least lvl 6.
Good luck
Sooooo soooooooo true...Quote:
Originally Posted by Titoezz
I don't see any problem. I reached Master League to get 4 builder, lvl 6 King, lvl 5 Queen and my base is low level.. and have no problem raid for loots to start upgrading my base.
p.s i didn't spend money.
how many defences have you won though?Quote:
Originally Posted by ForgiveMeNot
I don't count defense... i only count how many battles i won and loots i got.Quote:
Originally Posted by R3taliate
This game is not about winning or losing battles it's all about how fast u can upgrade ur village. My builders are always busy!
Beside i didn't need the best defense to reach to Master league... and it's impossible for a new player to defend a 2-3 years players attack, even if they max all their defenses.
you still didnt answer the question though, even if you dont think its about defense, others opinions might differ
Cry. Simply put.. just cry
No hope, quit the game and go to boom beach ^^
jk game sucks imo
How badly premature is my base?
http://i.imgur.com/Faj8qtk.png
Is is possible to reverse the loot penalty? Or do I have to wait until I am maxed TH9 and then upgrade to TH10 to get rid of the penalty?
Please help!
You'll be okay - just work hard on getting the defenses leveled up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ticklemypekka
No reversing it. The "loot penalty" for you is that you're a relatively weak TH9, and now you're not going to see many TH7s that are worthwhile to raid, as you have a 50% penalty on the loot, there. TH8s - you have a 10% penalty. Not a huge deal but as a TH9, with maxxed troops, army camps, and spells, you have a lot easier time taking the TH8s stuff.Quote:
Is is possible to reverse the loot penalty? Or do I have to wait until I am maxed TH9 and then upgrade to TH10 to get rid of the penalty?
That kind of base is underdeveloped, not really premature. It can be recovered relatively easily. Don't worry about that.
Loot penalty is irreversible and cumulative. There's no way you can get rid of it. The higher you upgrade your town hall, the more you'll have it, not less (be warned).
Great post,this will help a lot of people
This maybe off topic.... What strategy is good to 3 star a premature town hall 10.? I got mostly lvl 5 normal troops and lvl 3 hog rider n minion.
I rushed to th9 and it was bad I had lvl 4 and 5 walls etc. Horrible. But I stuck with it and farmed ALOT. Im still not quite there but im committed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HikinenPorsas
[QUOTE=Hannibal;411330]I get PMs asking for advice on this situation quite frequently and thought I’d write something up to save a little time.
What is a premature town hall?
A premature town hall is a village in which town hall levels are advanced quickly, and usually with the aid of gems, to unlock a high-level feature -- often the X-bow or inferno tower -- while leaving the rest of the base relatively underdeveloped. While any degree of prematurity can be detrimental, the costs are highest for bases advancing to high town hall levels -- TH10 and to a lesser degree TH9.
A premature town hall is not the same thing as a non-maximized town hall. For many reasons it's often a good idea to complete every upgrade and building project available at a given town hall level. While there are reasons to do this, a base which advances with a handful of incomplete upgrades or building projects is not at the same risk to damage their gameplay as described in this thread.
What can you do about it?
First, you need to think hard about deleting your village and restarting. I know that it’s hard to swallow the financial loss, but you need to think carefully about it nonetheless. The reason for this is the hidden loot penalty. SC recently added a notification regarding this when upgrading TH6 and above. A full exposition of the loot penalty can be found in Zach’s post, but the nutshell version is that as you level up your town hall you incur penalties to looting villages with town halls lower than yours, while those lower town halls simultaneously get bonuses to looting you.
The end result of this is that as a premature TH9-10, you are the closest thing to fresh meat that exists in this game. Fully developed TH9-10 villages are going to salivate every time you come up in their attack queue, and even lower town halls are going to take a shot at you for the bonus they get against higher town hall levels.
Bear in mind also that the money you have invested is a pittance relative to the investment you need to create a competitive TH9-10 base. TH7 is the sweet spot for farming gold in CoC, and you have forever lost access to it.
So in short, it’s a twofer. You’re both the kid wearing a “Kick Me” sign on his back, while simultaneously having less ability to dig yourself out of the hole you’re in. Consider carefully if deleting and restarting is a good option.
But let’s say it isn’t an option. The reason doesn't have to matter, but maybe there’s no way you’re going to lose that $100, giving up just isn’t how you roll, and screw math anyway. What now?
General Strategies:
First, make sure you have all the builders. They’re far and away the best investment you can make with cash, and if you’re going to stick with your gimped base, you’re going to need all the help you can get. So cough up that extra $20-5, and buy the last builders.
Next, bear in mind that you won’t be able to defend your loot for a long, long time. Your best defense is simply not to have loot in your storages by spending it as soon as possible. Consider also that most people consider a threshold of 70-100k gold as the low end of what they’d attack depending on the base strength and troop investment. This means that considering loot penalties, provided you have less than 350k gold in storages, you’re less likely to be attacked by an equal town hall level. (Lower TH levels may still be motivated to attack you though.)
The strategy is to dump loot as quickly as possible so that you never have enough in your storages to be worth attacking. Some people advocate keeping a builder free to dump excess gold into walls, but I’d personally just keep them all building. But to have the resources to level anything, you need to be gaining loot yourself. You’re going to have to learn how to farm.
Learn to Farm:
There is no shortage of farming guides on this forum, but the nutshell version is to park somewhere between 1200-1500 trophies, and pick on undefended collectors and weak bases for loot with a fast-building army consisting of some combination of tier one troops (goblin, barbarian, archer, minion) or selected tier two troops (giant, wallbreaker). There are several permutations of these troops which are effective. Alex the Great (Ruthless Barbarian) has several youtube videos on his channel showing the popular BAM (barbarian, archer, minion) farming strategy. In order to do be able to farm, you need a viable TH9-10 army. If you have any gems left over after your ill-advised rush to TH9 and builder purchases, this is where you should dump them – in your offense. Realistically a viable army at TH9 is a minimum of 200 pop capacity and level five troops.
Base Upgrade Priority:
Offense and defense draw largely from separate resource pools, but if there’s ever a choice between them, always upgrade offense first. As far as upgrading your defenses, your top priorities should be the clan castle, mortars, wizard towers, and Xbows. However, don’t do this at the expense of dumping gold fast. Remember that you’re going to be that prime target for a long time. When your base gets steamrolled, it wasn’t that you failed to copy somebody’s base design well enough. It’s that your base is underleveled.
Also, make sure that you're in an active clan that donates. New players underestimate the strength of the clan castle, but a fully staffed clan castle is a force to be reckoned with if properly positioned in the center of your base.[/QUOTE
What Should i Upgrade...I am Th10...lv88...
I have lv10 Cannons
I have lv9 Archer towers
I have lv4 Air defenses
I have lv3 Wizz Towers
Lv1 Infernos
Lv1 X bows
Lv6 Walls
Honestly I think your are giving great advice but I wouldnt reccomend the player reset, it will take less time to upgrade thier farming army to become viable and start catching up than it would to start from scratch..
the 5 builders however is a must!
I'm town hall 5 and have maxed canons,archer towers,walls,army camps,storages,barracks and clan castle.Im level 33
Im upgrading mines,collectors,air defence,mortar.......ect.
Im with 1260 trophies.is my trophy count less or is it higher than usual?
Hi all,
I'm a newbie of this coc, I've been playing for 3 - 4 months. As the OP said, I'm a rusher! I know I'm stupid ! 500$ gone already, with little things developed. Everything to me seem over but I try to bear with the base to get thing done one by one. I don't want to give up this account. Now that it's really hard when everything is becoming more and more expensive to upgrade. Each time I feel so frustrated when attacking other bases since the loot amount received are far less than the cost of training troops. No profit at all ! Lost ! So the other way I can think of, is to spend gems to boost those 7 gold mines & 7 elixir collectors to survive upgrades. Take a look at my picture of the base.
Description:
- Mortar lv 4
- Canon lv 8 - 7
- Air defense lv 3 - 2
- Archer tower lv 7
- Wizard tower lv 3
- Telsa lv 1
- Bow lv 1
- Inferno lv 1
- DE drill lv 2
- Army camp lv 6
- Clan castle lv 3
- Laboratory lv 7 (Barbarian lv5, Archer lv5, Giant lv5, Wallbreaker lv3, Wizard lv4, Dragon lv2, Baloon lv2, Goblin lv2, Healer lv3, Spell lightening lv2, the rest are 0)
- Walls you can see :(
Please take a look at my base:
Attachment 99199
I'm not satisfied with it much, and I think this base seem to be out of resource and might take years to upgrade. When I come to understand that rushing Town Hall is useless, one or two weeks ago I start playing from scratch with 5 builders. Everything is nice and going great. Loot bonus is superb. The new town is lv 5 and everything is almost max out except gold and elixir collectors are at lv 6 - 7. After all I'll continue on looting for 750K which is very easy to get for TH6.
I also know the technique of balancing highest possible loot is that we have to balance the trophies that we have. For example at TH5 we have 1200+ trophies. When search for attack the system will tend to look for players regardless of their TH level is but the equivalent trophies to ours. So this is a good chance. Don't skip. We can attack this high level base just to get some loots at least 10K+ gold & elixir just to spend 2 or 3 archers only and make ourselves loose to lower down trophies. Correct me if I'm wrong at this point.
So back to my TH10, it's about to stuck. At least, thank to it. I can use it to donate troops for my TH5 and win most of the time.
I'm sharing this experience to any other players who just start to play and not to do like me in the first place. Hopefully, they come and see this post useful post.
And lastly right or wrong please correct, to all pro here your ideas will be helpful for me to deal with my TH10. To fix my mistake !
Welcome all the suggestions.
Hi all,
I'm a newbie of this coc, I've been playing for 3 - 4 months. As the OP said, I'm a rusher! I know I'm stupid ! 500$ gone already, with little things developed. Everything to me seem over but I try to bear with the base to get thing done one by one. I don't want to give up this account. Now that it's really hard when everything is becoming more and more expensive to upgrade. Each time I feel so frustrated when attacking other bases since the loot amount received are far less than the cost of training troops. No profit at all ! Lost ! So the other way I can think of, is to spend gems to boost those 7 gold mines & 7 elixir collectors to survive upgrades. Take a look at my picture of the base.
Description:
- Mortar lv 4
- Canon lv 8 - 7
- Air defense lv 3 - 2
- Archer tower lv 7
- Wizard tower lv 3
- Telsa lv 1
- Bow lv 1
- Inferno lv 1
- DE drill lv 2
- Army camp lv 6
- Clan castle lv 3
- Laboratory lv 7 (Barbarian lv5, Archer lv5, Giant lv5, Wallbreaker lv3, Wizard lv4, Dragon lv2, Baloon lv2, Goblin lv2, Healer lv3, Spell lightening lv2, the rest are 0)
- Walls you can see :(
Please take a look at my base:
Attachment 99199
I'm not satisfied with it much, and I think this base seem to be out of resource and might take years to upgrade. When I come to understand that rushing Town Hall is useless, one or two weeks ago I start playing from scratch with 5 builders. Everything is nice and going great. Loot bonus is superb. The new town is lv 5 and everything is almost max out except gold and elixir collectors are at lv 6 - 7. After all I'll continue on looting for 750K which is very easy to get for TH6.
I also know the technique of balancing highest possible loot is that we have to balance the trophies that we have. For example at TH5 we have 1200+ trophies. When search for attack the system will tend to look for players regardless of their TH level is but the equivalent trophies to ours. So this is a good chance. Don't skip. We can attack this high level base just to get some loots at least 10K+ gold & elixir just to spend 2 or 3 archers only and make ourselves loose to lower down trophies. Correct me if I'm wrong at this point.
So back to my TH10, it's about to stuck. At least, thank to it. I can use it to donate troops for my TH5 and win most of the time.
I'm sharing this experience to any other players who just start to play and not to do like me in the first place. Hopefully, they come and see this post useful post.
And lastly right or wrong please correct, to all pro here your ideas will be helpful for me to deal with my TH10. To fix my mistake !
Welcome all the suggestions.
Are you there?
Great thread!! Well done!! I am sure the "rusher/premie" community will weigh in on how wrong you are in your efforts to show them the light. I wish more players would read this before they make the mistake of rushing, well IMO it is a mistake, rushers gonna rush and crushers gonna crush em. This should be a sticky.
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Originally Posted by joeyjax
I think I'm finally at the end of the tunnel, basking in the light :cool:. It's a long time coming but I definitely made a lot of headway these past two years :D. Look at me now! Hannibal, thanks for giving me the hope I needed, way back when... and now, I'm almost ready for TH10!
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