Make sniping Dark Elixer harder

First I want to complain about a problem with darkness elixer that I'm sure many of you high lvl guys suffered. But I am proposing a new fair solution.

Dark Elixer is not an easy commodity to keep. We've spent hours and hours gathering us darkness elixer.. particularly in my case.. in less than 30 mins.. i had 3 people come in with weak bases.. snipe my dark elixer for 950 each. That's 3000 dark elite gone to guys who spent no effort using strategy.

So my solution is.. as soon as an enemy attacks dark elixer.. no dark elixer is stolen yet. The attacker must damage more than 50 percent of the container in order to steal. So next time the snipers come..
instead of them stealing 900..they steal about 100 to 200..which is fine.

Really? What is the deal?

Probably I might be the only one here on the forum, but for sure your DE get stolen if you are in a too low leaque for your level. What you expect?

Also, they increased the max of what an enemie can get to 3000 of the DE container. So if you have 200k, you lose only 3k. I think it is enough for this.

Please...............

I can make more than they steal in 1 raid, not hard to keep at all.
btw i am carrying 150k DE, if they zap it fine idc i can get it back next raid, zapping isnt a problem for me at all, i rarely get zapped.

Floris that is such a weak and invalid rebuttal. You never said why it was a bad idea.. all your said was I was in the wrong league.. so what makes it the right league? You also provided no explanation as to why the current implementation is more reasonable than my idea. Your comment is essentially "I'm fine with the way things are.. so should you"

This is a strategy game.. There's NO strategy to have someone pop up randomly.. dump 3 lightening spells and vanish. It's really annoying.

Plus.. a. rebuttal isn't supposed to involve how it relates to you.. its supposed to relate to the game play involving everyone else.

I see absolutely no problem wish supercell adding this feature.. Regardless of how annoyed you are with this idea. Unless I'm proven wrong about how this idea is bad.. then tell me.

The strategy in zapping is the zapper is smart enough to zap. He found a weak point in ur defense get over it. My suggestion find a league were u dont get zapped or put ur th on the outside ur walls for a shield. In only a level 70 ur the high level player u should know such.

sigh. another person new to the forum who is disgruntled because of a game mechanic they dont like.

that is all it is really. you just dont like getting zapped. we get it. i get it. it sucks.
but that is what it is. it is a spell that does splash damage.

i also play call of duty. I HATE the target finding attachments on the guns. it is such a noobish and cheap attachment. but it keeps people who are bad at the game playing. this in turn gives skilled players like myself a chance to knock them around by using other game mechanics to beat them.

just like the lightning spell. yes it sucks getting zapped for your DE. i get that. just remember that these are probably TH rushers. their defenses probably suck. they may not come on frequently so their collectors get full. etc.

bottom line is that i am fairly certain that nothing will be done about the lightning spell. so, you are just gonna have to deal with it.

Found a weak point? that's always going to be a weak point.. no matter what you do! That response is also ridiculous. Please don't respond to this thread if all you are going to say "put up with it".. I'm adding this idea to improve game play. Again.. if you find a flaw in this idea.. I wanna hear it. If there is no flaw.. please don't respond with your nonsense of "deal with it".. because this is a mechanic that can be improved. Simple as that. Geesh.

I'm not talking about changing the lightening spell.. or the fact that the can't snipe DE. I'm saying to strengthen the DE container for lightening spell.. but attacking straight on.. keep it the way it is. Losing nearly 1k for a snipe is just insane. I'd understand if its like 200...not 1k. Thus rewarding for raids more than sniping.

This is an idea forum.. i came to put an idea.. not deal with the dumb responses I've been getting so far. I hope you guys aren't doing their same for other threads either. I been playing this game for almost a year.. and this is the only idea I came up with.

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

Found a weak point? that's always going to be a weak point.. no matter what you do! That response is also ridiculous. Please don't respond to this thread if all you are going to say "put up with it".. I'm adding this idea to improve game play. Again.. if you find a flaw in this idea.. I wanna hear it. If there is no flaw.. please don't respond with your nonsense of "deal with it".. because this is a mechanic that can be improved. Simple as that. Geesh.

I'm not talking about changing the lightening spell.. or the fact that the can't snipe DE. I'm saying to strengthen the DE container for lightening spell.. but attacking straight on.. keep it the way it is. Losing nearly 1k for a snipe is just insane. I'd understand if its like 200...not 1k. Thus rewarding for raids more than sniping.

This is an idea forum.. i came to put an idea.. not deal with the dumb responses I've been getting so far. I hope you guys aren't doing their same for other threads either. I been playing this game for almost a year.. and this is the only idea I came up with.

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yes. you and the hundreds of other people on here who have had the same idea. that has been shot down by supercell. you dont like your DE getting zapped by lightning spells. tough. this is not a game mechanic that needs to be improved because it does what it is supposed to do. YOU just dont like it. well, suck it up buttercup. its probably not gonna change.

zapping is not that big of an issue. most of the people on this forum do not think it is that big of an issue. supercell has said that they do not have any plans of changing anything in regards to the lightning spell, making DE storages immune to it, etc.

Your idea is worse. thanks

I look at it this way, alls fair in love and war. It just happens to everyone, you can't stop the inevitable.

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

First I want to complain about a problem with darkness elixer that I'm sure many of you high lvl guys suffered. But I am proposing a new fair solution.

Dark Elixer is not an easy commodity to keep. We've spent hours and hours gathering us darkness elixer.. particularly in my case.. in less than 30 mins.. i had 3 people come in with weak bases.. snipe my dark elixer for 950 each. That's 3000 dark elite gone to guys who spent no effort using strategy.

So my solution is.. as soon as an enemy attacks dark elixer.. no dark elixer is stolen yet. The attacker must damage more than 50 percent of the container in order to steal. So next time the snipers come..
instead of them stealing 900..they steal about 100 to 200..which is fine.

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I see where you are getting at. This is still gonna be a no.
Try asking in general subforum on how to cope or be less susceptible to de raids.

Hit and run is a tactic.
You get resource equivalent to the damage output.
Yeah, zappers are cowards/weak/whatever name you wanna call them.

The weak has to do something in order to gain some of the commodity.

Try HArder!:mad:

Simple solutions:
1) If your DE is being snipped with no zaps make a farming base to protect it for goodness sake!
2) If it is being stolen by zappers go back and revenge them for more!

Really simple...

Really? Im attacked by th8s 9s and occassionally 10s and i barely lose dark elixir lol havent lost it for weeks

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Originally Posted by ShinonZero

Really? Im attacked by th8s 9s and occassionally 10s and i barely lose dark elixir lol havent lost it for weeks

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So true. He is probably around the 1400 trophies where are lot of TH7s are, who are dreaming of a barb king. lol :)

Be real man i only have less then 100 DE right now and i'm not even that greedy yet.Look if your idea come real even you will have to suffer it. How would you feel if the DE you have get decrease 50% everytime you get some.And plus there are ways to protect your DE build stronger defenses upgrade your walls.
Anyway it was a bad idea and you should give up on it

I know how to cope with it.. I've been dealing with this for a year.

I know the tactics.. and I seldom get zapped. I'm in the 2000 trophy range. There are level 7 town halls up there. What happened was.. two guys zapped me in a row without sniping my townhall.. so my shield wasn't up. Then they zapped me a third time and sniped my townhall.. thus losing 3k. I know
it's not a lot.. But I've been real close to upgrading my queen to lvl15 for some time.

My idea does not suck.. it helps with creating better challenges.. simple as that. I know how to cope with it.. but it doesn't make it right

Oh and floris.. You suck. You are a jerk.. stop posting and shooting people's ideas if you don't like them because your input is horrible.

First of all man up and deal with it we all have to deal with it

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

First I want to complain about a problem with darkness elixer that I'm sure many of you high lvl guys suffered. But I am proposing a new fair solution.

Dark Elixer is not an easy commodity to keep. We've spent hours and hours gathering us darkness elixer.. particularly in my case.. in less than 30 mins.. i had 3 people come in with weak bases.. snipe my dark elixer for 950 each. That's 3000 dark elite gone to guys who spent no effort using strategy.

So my solution is.. as soon as an enemy attacks dark elixer.. no dark elixer is stolen yet. The attacker must damage more than 50 percent of the container in order to steal. So next time the snipers come..
instead of them stealing 900..they steal about 100 to 200..which is fine.

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Yet another person who doesn't know the definition of strategy.....

strat·e·gyˈstradəjē/
noun a plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major or overall aim



A plan (to zap) to achieve an aim (gain dark elixir). So "no strategy" is simply incorrect. And man, a huge part of CoC is the ability to steal loot without having to win the attack; if you hate it that much play something like boom beach :rolleyes:.

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

Floris that is such a weak and invalid rebuttal. You never said why it was a bad idea.. all your said was I was in the wrong league.. so what makes it the right league? You also provided no explanation as to why the current implementation is more reasonable than my idea. Your comment is essentially "I'm fine with the way things are.. so should you"

This is a strategy game.. There's NO strategy to have someone pop up randomly.. dump 3 lightening spells and vanish. It's really annoying.

Plus.. a. rebuttal isn't supposed to involve how it relates to you.. its supposed to relate to the game play involving everyone else.

I see absolutely no problem wish supercell adding this feature.. Regardless of how annoyed you are with this idea. Unless I'm proven wrong about how this idea is bad.. then tell me.

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You're right, it's annoying. And that's about all it is, it really doesn't set you back all that much. TH 8 gains ~1000 a day just on the drill, TH 9 4800, and TH 10 makes 7200......and you're complaining about 3k..... You want a rebuttal that relates to everyone playing the game, there it is. Even at TH 8 you're making a free 1k a day; to make up for the rest just raid once or twice and you're breaking even. At TH 10, you make double that in a day just off drills. As for how the idea is bad, it goes against one of the main principles of CoC. Gaining loot without having to train huge armies. As said above if you dislike that play boom beach.

EDIT: You said AQ lvl 15, so I'm assuming you're a TH 9. You're still making ~2k more than you lost on drills, moreover you said you usually weren't zapped. So why are you complaining? On one off day you lost 3k, oh noes! If you can't deal with a minor setback like this good luck progressing.

Why are you guys in this thread? I have no idea. I never asked how you guys cope with it.. or advice on how to deal with it. I also don't want to hear you're assumptions on this thread. I don't appreciate you guys putting it down for no reason.

You guys see this as a problem.. I see this as a problem. You guys are coping.. I am coping. You guys don't have a solution. I made a solutions. See the difference? What is so hard to get?

Super cell didn't shoot this idea down. I read the thread about shot down ideas.

This thread is about making ideas. You guys obviously never offered an idea on this thread.. or an alternative. You can always cope with problems.. and there are tons of "problems" in this game.. that i don't have any qualms with. All you guys offered are responses that me.. the original poster.. dont care about.

So my question.. why are you guys in this thread? why are you guys in this forum?

dont let it be, the only way I can quickly get dark elixir for my king is doing this at town hall 8, I barely managed to get my king to level 10, its hard enough with a crappy dark drill level 3 thats hardly gives ya anything.

tomatosauce.. awesome reply. thank you.

I don't care about losing 3k. I care about how I lost it. 3k isn't a big deal. I actually get about 5k a day. What's wrong with making DE a bit harder to get? it's a nice commodity. I'm not saying that hit and run is not a tactic.. my solution says.. "if you want more de.. raid"

I don't mean to make it as big deal. My big deal are these responses.

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Originally Posted by Hhggtg3279

dont let it be, the only way I can quickly get dark elixir for my king is doing this at town hall 8, I barely managed to get my king to level 10, its hard enough with a crappy dark drill level 3 thats hardly gives ya anything.

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Hmmm... I semi-agree with you. I am also at TH10, with a barbarian King of level 3. The only time i deem it acceptable to zap somebody is in 2 situations: It is near the end of the 2 week season and the person has over2k dark elixir, and he doesnt have a league yet (Innactive). OR, when somebody attacks me first, i revenge zap them.

Another easy way to get dark elixir is to get into crystal league (Crystal 2 is probably the best to get it and not have it all stolen back) and repeatedly TH Snipe people. I can get in around 7 per hour, and for each victory i get 100 DE. And, 4/7 times the person has full or half full drills on or near the outside of their base, so i drop some more archers there. And then i get around 500 DE. SO after an hour of playing, I have stolen nearly 2k DE and earned another 700 just from sniping somebody

Edit: XD meant to put that i am at TH8

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

Why are you guys in this thread? I have no idea. I never asked how you guys cope with it.. or advice on how to deal with it. I also don't want to hear you're assumptions on this thread. I don't appreciate you guys putting it down for no reason.

You guys see this as a problem.. I see this as a problem. You guys are coping.. I am coping. You guys don't have a solution. I made a solutions. See the difference? What is so hard to get?

Super cell didn't shoot this idea down. I read the thread about shot down ideas.

This thread is about making ideas. You guys obviously never offered an idea on this thread.. or an alternative. You can always cope with problems.. and there are tons of "problems" in this game.. that i don't have any qualms with. All you guys offered are responses that me.. the original poster.. dont care about.

So my question.. why are you guys in this thread? why are you guys in this forum?

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Sorry, I guess I thought this Forum was meant to try to help people and talk to them about there ideas. I guess I'm just stupid for thinking this, it's obviously a place where you post something but if anyone thinks your idea won't work you flip out on them. If you don't wanna listen to our opinions then why are you on the forums. Actually no matter where you go people are going to tell you there opinions. Even if you were te chairman of COC or something.

Forum: a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.

Erikbs you are wrong. I was open to suggestions on the idea. I'm open to having my idea be proven as bad.

All i gotten was "deal with it" reaponses.. and people assuming what base and level I'm at.. and advice that I already do. Not constructive.. and not useful.. and it's more annoying than being sniped at.

If all inventors or creative people surrounded themselves with people who said "deal with it" nothing productive would be made.

If you think an idea is bad.. i want to hear it.. proof.. reasons.. everything. I'm willing to admit that this idea is not valuable if someone can explain why. Tomatosauce was the ONLY guy who done so. I expected more from a forum titled "Ideas and Feature Requests".. but now I'm wondering if it should be titled: "Naysayers.. nay everything.. no reason.. just nay"

But because people are using their gut.. and not their brain.. to disliking my idea.. I decided to stop wasting my time on this thread.

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

Erikbs you are wrong. I was open to suggestions on the idea. I'm open to having my idea be proven as bad.

All i gotten was "deal with it" reaponses.. and people assuming what base and level I'm at.. and advice that I already do. Not constructive.. and not useful.. and it's more annoying than being sniped at.

If all inventors or creative people surrounded themselves with people who said "deal with it" nothing productive would be made.

If you think an idea is bad.. i want to hear it.. proof.. reasons.. everything. I'm willing to admit that this idea is not valuable if someone can explain why. Tomatosauce was the ONLY guy who done so. I expected more from a forum titled "Ideas and Feature Requests".. but now I'm wondering if it should be titled: "Naysayers.. nay everything.. no reason.. just nay"

But because people are using their gut.. and not their brain.. to disliking my idea.. I decided to stop wasting my time on this thread.

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Here yah go, alls fair in love and war. It's a part of the game, The lightning spell isn't really used for much else. It's main use is to get loot. And I hve seen many other intelligent responses that you either ignored or yelled at them because you were mad at them for saying your idea was bad.

Take a chill pill bro💊

I have almost 60k and no one has taken a lick of my dark elixir today. Much less from zapping. You are doing something wrong.

Lol axion.. some times I hit 60k and I dont get zapped. It's not about doing some wrong or not.. its mostly about luck. I was in crystal for about 2 weeks.. no zaps.. and all of a sudden I get a triple one.. occasionally I get it here and there. But whatevs.

Yes some responses were ok.. but those responses were things I already was doing.

Again.. whats wrong with making DE harder to get? I know I asked this like 5 times.. but you guys are more concerned with my reaction to responses here than the thread itself. Geez.

Who cares if I'm angry? that's the way i am yo! I'm happy being angry.. Maybe I'm in a rage spell....

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

First I want to complain about a problem with darkness elixer that I'm sure many of you high lvl guys suffered. But I am proposing a new fair solution.

Dark Elixer is not an easy commodity to keep. We've spent hours and hours gathering us darkness elixer.. particularly in my case.. in less than 30 mins.. i had 3 people come in with weak bases.. snipe my dark elixer for 950 each. That's 3000 dark elite gone to guys who spent no effort using strategy.

So my solution is.. as soon as an enemy attacks dark elixer.. no dark elixer is stolen yet. The attacker must damage more than 50 percent of the container in order to steal. So next time the snipers come..
instead of them stealing 900..they steal about 100 to 200..which is fine.

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Stop complaining. Seriously bro. Dark Elixir is already a pain to farm and yet you want to make it harder? If they did implement this, would you then come back and complain that Dark Elixir is too hard to farm? Goodbye. *More Curse Words*

What I don't think he's getting I that THIS IS PART OF THE GAME!

Erikbs wrong again. All my dark elixer have been gotten either by drills or raids. I've never used lighting spells to get DE. I've revenged everyone who stole my DE that way.. and gained almost equal amount plus DE. Getting DE through raids should be more rewarded than by lightning spells. Your response just proves you have no idea what I'm talking about.

I think you have no concept of what "Ideas and Features Request" means. You believe everything as part of a game shouldn't be changed.. based on what you just said.

Yes.. its part of the game. I want it changed. So i went to this forum.. specifically to help change it. What are YOU doing?

If you don't think the game should be changed.. why are you here?

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

Erikbs you are wrong. I was open to suggestions on the idea. I'm open to having my idea be proven as bad.

All i gotten was "deal with it" reaponses.. and people assuming what base and level I'm at.. and advice that I already do. Not constructive.. and not useful.. and it's more annoying than being sniped at.

If all inventors or creative people surrounded themselves with people who said "deal with it" nothing productive would be made.

If you think an idea is bad.. i want to hear it.. proof.. reasons.. everything. I'm willing to admit that this idea is not valuable if someone can explain why. Tomatosauce was the ONLY guy who done so. I expected more from a forum titled "Ideas and Feature Requests".. but now I'm wondering if it should be titled: "Naysayers.. nay everything.. no reason.. just nay"

But because people are using their gut.. and not their brain.. to disliking my idea.. I decided to stop wasting my time on this thread.

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no its because for most of us, we enjoy the concept of being able to zap your DE. Ive done it, ill continue to do it when i think it will be worth it.

the thing is that you have not given, in my opinion, a valid reason why it shouldnt be in the game, other than you dont like it. or its annoying. or its a pain to get. tough.

if you look at the polls, the consensus is that most of us want it. now, in order for the minority to affect the outcome of something that affects everyone, they have to provide compelling reasons why it should be so. i do not have to justify why it should stay, you have to justify why it should not. I like the lightning spell just the way it is. you dont. fine. i dont care about your "solutions", because there is no problem. you first have to identify a problem for everyone before a solution for everyone is implemented.

i believe that zapping is a viable tactic for aquiring resources. just like goblins ignoring regular buildings and heading straight for the resources is a viable tactic. just like gowipe and gowiwi are viable raiding tactics. i really dont care if you think zapping is not a viable tactic. who are you to tell me how i play this game? if i want to waste over 100k elixer and just use lightning spells on your base to get however much DE i can, i will.

until someone can provide a much better reason for me not to other than, "its hard getting DE" or "its such a pain getting zapped", or "zapping isnt a real strategy" i am gonna tell everyone that i see that posts a complaint about getting their DE zapped to suck it up buttercup and just deal with it.

I gotcha spinner. But I'm not saying anything is wrong with the lightening spell. I also never said that the tactic should be removed. I clearly mentioned in my previous posts that you can still do it.. but to a lesser degree.

I just don't think it's fair for the amount of it being taken when you are nearly full. When DE is full it's harder to have than when you are half full.. because of snipes. I'm saying it seems more challenging and fun to get it in raids. It doesn't matter what trophy count you are.. what you did to the base.. it'll always happen.

I mean if it really isn't a problem.. why not lower costs of heros then? do you care about upgrading heros? or is having a level 3 barbarian king enough for you?

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

I gotcha spinner. But I'm not saying anything is wrong with the lightening spell. I also never said that the tactic should be removed. I clearly mentioned in my previous posts that you can still do it.. but to a lesser degree.

I just don't think it's fair for the amount of it being taken when you are nearly full. When DE is full it's harder to have than when you are half full. I'm saying it seems more challenging and fun to get it in raids.

I mean if it really isn't a problem.. why not lower costs of heros then? do you care about upgrading heros? or is having a level 3 barbarian king enough for you?

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yes you are. if nothing is wrong with it, why would you want to change its aspect? by causing storages not to be looted until it reaches 50% decimation is changing the aspect of the lightning spell. this completely negates the splash damage aspect on storages causing lightning spells to be completely useless against them.

what you meant to say is that nothing is wrong with the lightning spell in the way that you use it.

Look. i get it. i really do. but what is the point of this game? the whole point of the game is to steal each others loot to upgrade our village. you think its a cheap tactic. it may very well be. but the idea is for me to steal your loot, what difference does it really make how i do it?

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Originally Posted by Kikoreed

The strategy in zapping is the zapper is smart enough to zap. He found a weak point in ur defense get over it. My suggestion find a league were u dont get zapped or put ur th on the outside ur walls for a shield. In only a level 70 ur the high level player u should know such.

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I'm pretty sure that you cannot defend against a lightning spell. There absolutely no way you can shield against a lightning spell.

Well i was thinking 50% including raids.. not just lightening spells. Haha. When i reach DE container in a raid.. I always destroy it.. It's never partially destroyed.

The game actually "kinda" does what I'm asking. If a DE container has less than 200 or something (forgot the number.. but its a small amount) .. You won't be stealing anything until you damage most of it.

That's actually how I got the idea. I don't mean to trample on anyone's way of getting loot by tactic.. but all im saying.. having ways to have a preventative measure would be nice to counteract multiple hits?

Like.. what preventative measures can you take.. to prevent 10 guys from sniping your DE.. not putting you in a shield.. stealing 10k? There really isnt.. no matter what you do.. There's always a possibility no matter how small.

You can take preventative measures against gobs.. or stronger bases.. and you do so by base design.. even if you are weak.. Going down in trophies help. But the problem I'm talking about can happen to anyone.. Regardless of what you do.

think about what happens in the long run.. as you get stronger.. and trying to upgrade to level 30..or 35 for barb king.. or arch queen.. literally saving 120k in de. What will you do to stop a stream of guys doing lightening spells? go to black league? I've seen th7 and th8 there..

raid more. if you are online, you cannot be raided.
other than that, there is not much to be done.
any sort of change to the game mechanic of the lightning spell has a domino effect.
it doesnt just affect the lightning spell, it trickles down and touches every other aspect.
this is probably just one reason why supercell hasnt done anything about it.

sigh.. ur right. Maybe supercell can check out my idea and maybe get a better idea of it is. I gave been raiding constantly.. lol.. 130 winning raids so far..

i don't want lightening spell to change. Just the effects of attacking DE container..

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

sigh.. ur right. Maybe supercell can check out my idea and maybe get a better idea of it is. I gave been raiding constantly.. lol.. 130 winning raids so far..

i don't want lightening spell to change. Just the effects of attacking DE container..

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i know. i am sure it is frustrating. but when you get attacked, and dont lose, you earn cups. so there is that

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Originally Posted by Seth1299

I'm pretty sure that you cannot defend against a lightning spell. There absolutely no way you can shield against a lightning spell.

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I meant that if ur th is on the outside of ur base ur th will be sniped. When ur th is destroyed u get a 12 hr shield and thus no one can lightening strike ur de storage for 12 hrs.

Let me add my 2 cents. If you zap DE you fail at life and CoC. It's laughably easy to get DE, it's all over the place and people carelessly forget to empty pumps or leave their DE storage on the edges. It shows 0 lack of skill. Also, you can get zapped in any league. It's complete ♥♥ to spout off about only getting zapped in G3 or G2. I have friends in Masters who get zapped by mid-TH10's.

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Originally Posted by WoWnoMore

Let me add my 2 cents. If you zap DE you fail at life and CoC. It's laughably easy to get DE, it's all over the place and people carelessly forget to empty pumps or leave their DE storage on the edges. It shows 0 lack of skill. Also, you can get zapped in any league. It's complete ♥♥ to spout off about only getting zapped in G3 or G2. I have friends in Masters who get zapped by mid-TH10's.

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Let me add my 2 cents as well. I've spent a ton of time in crystal, master and now finally champs and it has been MONTHS since I've been zapped, and up here I make enough DE that if someone that cant raid my base wants to trade cups for DE then so be it, I have no issue. Zapping is most prevalent in gold through low crystal, and once in a blue moon you'll get hit up higher. Your friends may have had one zapper, if they are even semi active they should be making more than enough to cover their loses.

To the OP, the reason I believe it is in the game and has gone so long unchanged (despite hundreds of new forumers that ask for zapping to be removed) is because it is the only way for lower leveled players to combat farmers. Now I'm not saying you skulk around in low leagues preying on weak bases, but plenty do, with good reason. Farming is a great, arguably necessary, tactic in advancing your base as far as possible. The majority of farming is big beefy bases beating up people who can do nothing in return, hence the need for DE zapping. TH7s and 8s can do very little when attacking TH10s with maxed infernos and high level walls, so they if they wish to take any sort of revenge they need to zap.

TL;DR The pros: Lower leveled players have some means of revenge against otherwise impenetrable opponents

far outweigh the cons:

You get zapped for 3k de, which if you raise trophies you can easily make that back and more.

As a final note, I'm not making assumptions about you, but the majority of the player base where farming is concerned.

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Originally Posted by Denrochee

Let me add my 2 cents as well. I've spent a ton of time in crystal, master and now finally champs and it has been MONTHS since I've been zapped, and up here I make enough DE that if someone that cant raid my base wants to trade cups for DE then so be it, I have no issue. Zapping is most prevalent in gold through low crystal, and once in a blue moon you'll get hit up higher. Your friends may have had one zapper, if they are even semi active they should be making more than enough to cover their loses.

To the OP, the reason I believe it is in the game and has gone so long unchanged (despite hundreds of new forumers that ask for zapping to be removed) is because it is the only way for lower leveled players to combat farmers. Now I'm not saying you skulk around in low leagues preying on weak bases, but plenty do, with good reason. Farming is a great, arguably necessary, tactic in advancing your base as far as possible. The majority of farming is big beefy bases beating up people who can do nothing in return, hence the need for DE zapping. TH7s and 8s can do very little when attacking TH10s with maxed infernos and high level walls, so they if they wish to take any sort of revenge they need to zap.

TL;DR The pros: Lower leveled players have some means of revenge against otherwise impenetrable opponents

far outweigh the cons:

You get zapped for 3k de, which if you raise trophies you can easily make that back and more.

As a final note, I'm not making assumptions about you, but the majority of the player base where farming is concerned.

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If you care about cups, I personally don't. People run farming bases to protect resources, not cups. If people are using zapping as a tool for revenge because they can't possibly revenge a player for the reasons you listed, that's a different scenario. Your average zapper is, well, I've said how I feel about them already.

thats why you protect it lol

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Originally Posted by Spinner7980

yes. you and the hundreds of other people on here who have had the same idea. that has been shot down by supercell. you dont like your DE getting zapped by lightning spells. tough. this is not a game mechanic that needs to be improved because it does what it is supposed to do. YOU just dont like it. well, suck it up buttercup. its probably not gonna change.

zapping is not that big of an issue. most of the people on this forum do not think it is that big of an issue. supercell has said that they do not have any plans of changing anything in regards to the lightning spell, making DE storages immune to it, etc.

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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

Well i was thinking 50% including raids.. not just lightening spells. Haha. When i reach DE container in a raid.. I always destroy it.. It's never partially destroyed.

The game actually "kinda" does what I'm asking. If a DE container has less than 200 or something (forgot the number.. but its a small amount) .. You won't be stealing anything until you damage most of it.

That's actually how I got the idea. I don't mean to trample on anyone's way of getting loot by tactic.. but all im saying.. having ways to have a preventative measure would be nice to counteract multiple hits?

Like.. what preventative measures can you take.. to prevent 10 guys from sniping your DE.. not putting you in a shield.. stealing 10k? There really isnt.. no matter what you do.. There's always a possibility no matter how small.

You can take preventative measures against gobs.. or stronger bases.. and you do so by base design.. even if you are weak.. Going down in trophies help. But the problem I'm talking about can happen to anyone.. Regardless of what you do.

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But there is an alternate solution, if the attacker gets more than X loot off any kind you get a shield, that is also a solution.

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Originally Posted by KLHF

Perfect response

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From a LV77 TH9...Way to preemie

Sigh...Just gonna keep posting this.
Zapping is a viable strategy bc it works the way SC want it to. Lightning spells deal damage. Resources are lost from storages that take damage. Hence, when a lightning spell deals damage to a DE storage, DE should be lost. It works in SC's eyes so what is there to fix?

Been posted, complained about, answered 1002 times....it is part of the game. If some idiot wants to spend 90-120k elixir to snipe de....let him... not cost effective. He loses trophy's...such is life. Get revenge. SuperCell is not going to change anything about this no matter how much you complain because it is a fair part of the game for all levels of play. Waaaaaaaah, someone sniped my de....get over it and raid more or upgrade your de pumps. Read the stickys, previous posts....etc of this same exact complaint and ideas..... remove thread please.





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The OP is 100% right. You see, the issue with zapping isn't that DE is stolen, it's that I can't do ANYTHING to stop it. Every other attack can be defended against except this, and thats why there are so many ppl asking for something to be done.

This is an un-defendable attack, and as such it's unbalanced. Even if the defense against this makes our base weaker to some other attack, fine. In fact I think it would be fair as designing your base to defend against any other specific attack (anit-giant for example) will make you more vulnerable to another attack (Gowipe).

But saying it's fine as is is just wrong. Give us some way to defend it!!

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Originally Posted by Bulldog241

The OP is 100% right. You see, the issue with zapping isn't that DE is stolen, it's that I can't do ANYTHING to stop it. Every other attack can be defended against except this, and thats why there are so many ppl asking for something to be done.

This is an un-defendable attack, and as such it's unbalanced. Even if the defense against this makes our base weaker to some other attack, fine. In fact I think it would be fair as designing your base to defend against any other specific attack (anit-giant for example) will make you more vulnerable to another attack (Gowipe).

But saying it's fine as is is just wrong. Give us some way to defend it!!

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The way the spell is designed is why it works so well. Its unfortunate that you don't see that, but its Working how SC wanted it too, Us Zappers just found a different way of using it

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Originally Posted by Bulldog241

The OP is 100% right. You see, the issue with zapping isn't that DE is stolen, it's that I can't do ANYTHING to stop it. Every other attack can be defended against except this, and thats why there are so many ppl asking for something to be done.

This is an un-defendable attack, and as such it's unbalanced. Even if the defense against this makes our base weaker to some other attack, fine. In fact I think it would be fair as designing your base to defend against any other specific attack (anit-giant for example) will make you more vulnerable to another attack (Gowipe).

But saying it's fine as is is just wrong. Give us some way to defend it!!

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So does it make it unfair to pull cc troops and zap them? When you zap mortars and take them out? When you zap air d and take it out? it is also something you can not defend against.....the point is moot. The spell works as defined. If someone wants to waste the elixir doing it, let them. I do not do it myself, it is not cost effective. Move on with this subject.


" I have a big head and little arms. I'm not just sure how well this plan was thought through " T-Rex...Meet the Robinson's


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Originally Posted by cloudybrain

First I want to complain about a problem with darkness elixer that I'm sure many of you high lvl guys suffered. But I am proposing a new fair solution.

Dark Elixer is not an easy commodity to keep. We've spent hours and hours gathering us darkness elixer.. particularly in my case.. in less than 30 mins.. i had 3 people come in with weak bases.. snipe my dark elixer for 950 each. That's 3000 dark elite gone to guys who spent no effort using strategy.

So my solution is.. as soon as an enemy attacks dark elixer.. no dark elixer is stolen yet. The attacker must damage more than 50 percent of the container in order to steal. So next time the snipers come..
instead of them stealing 900..they steal about 100 to 200..which is fine.

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I disagree with this.DE is hard to get and sniping might be the only choice a lower lvl player has to get DE,so taking that opportunity away isnt fair for them,i suggest you just deal with it and when raiding get double the amount of DE back,or just revenge him! If sniping means lightning strikes then there's nothing you can do about it,but if you mean you keep your DE storage outside then what do you exspect will happen?!!

The point of lightning spells is to do damage, and people should be able to use this damage however they want. Wether it be on defenses or storages it doesnt matter. If you make it so you need to destroy 50% of storage to get DE, that would hurt legit raiders too. So I vote no to your idea.

I never get zapped in gold 2. I never really understood why anyone except a town hall 7 would want to zap. It would cost so much elixir and you can't even get much dark elixir from it.

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Originally Posted by TheRealchrism

So does it make it unfair to pull cc troops and zap them? When you zap mortars and take them out? When you zap air d and take it out? it is also something you can not defend against.....the point is moot. The spell works as defined. If someone wants to waste the elixir doing it, let them. I do not do it myself, it is not cost effective. Move on with this subject.


" I have a big head and little arms. I'm not just sure how well this plan was thought through " T-Rex...Meet the Robinson's


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Those are all pretty terrible examples. In every one of them you NEED ground troops to take advantage of the situation, and so it's a very big YES!!! you can defend against every example you gave.

Heck even when you can defend against an attack Supercell ahs still nerfed it in the name of balance. Remember hogs? At least those you could defend against, yet the outcry against them was crazy until Supercell finally nerfed them. And at least they could be killed by towers!! Zapping has no defense and therefore is 100% unbalanced and unfair.

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Originally Posted by Bulldog241

Those are all pretty terrible examples. In every one of them you NEED ground troops to take advantage of the situation, and so it's a very big YES!!! you can defend against every example you gave.

Heck even when you can defend against an attack Supercell ahs still nerfed it in the name of balance. Remember hogs? At least those you could defend against, yet the outcry against them was crazy until Supercell finally nerfed them. And at least they could be killed by towers!! Zapping has no defense and therefore is 100% unbalanced and unfair.

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Not unfair, you can't defend against healing spells, right? Nor any other spell, it's the inevitable it's going to happen no matter what. I am going to put this the nicest way possible, you can't stop everything. No matter what there is always going to be something that's going to irritate or happen. Sorry miss or sir but it's going to happen, go on all you want but it's everything being repeated.
Can't stop spells.

I do several raids aday. if someone steals my DE. I will just revenge them back for what ever they got if i can.