TH11 = Bad idea.

So yeah, there's a lot of talk about town hall 11 and all that stuff. Sounds like cool idea on paper, but it would be a nightmare.

Look at the cluster♥♥♥♥ town hall 10 is already. Just imagine taking that mess and elevating it to a whole new level. You would have increased loot costs, but decreased loot availability with the loot penalty. Imagine paying millions more for upgrades, but getting almost half the loot you get right now, and then compare that to how hard it is for a TH10 already.

Plus the game would get far more technical than it needs to be. Balancing TH11 would be ridiculously hard, and any change or update made to it in the future wouldn't be easy and could mess up easier than it already does and on a larger scale.

There's already tons of people who don't want to go to TH10 in the first place, yet TH11. At that point the game would be more work than fun.

If you cannot handle the increased requirements of th11 don't upgrade to th11. If the weak were allowed to decide the course of development the game would not be a challenge, nor very fun.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

If you cannot handle the increased requirements of th11 don't upgrade to th11. If the weak were allowed to decide the course of development the game would not be a challenge, nor very fun.

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But that's the point. With increased difficulty and decreased amusement, less people are going to upgrade. Once you hit a certain level the work increases but the benefit decreases. The work Supercell would have to put into TH11 may not be worth it.

And as far as "the weak", or your definition thereof, these people eventually find the work going into the game outweighs the outcome. The challenge brought on by TH11 would be more frustrating than fun. There are better ways to make the game more challenging than TH11 (IMO).

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Originally Posted by BrickWayne

But that's the point. With increased difficulty and decreased amusement, less people are going to upgrade. Once you hit a certain level the work increases but the benefit decreases. The work Supercell would have to put into TH11 may not be worth it.

And as far as "the weak", or your definition thereof, these people eventually find the work going into the game outweighs the outcome. The challenge brought on by TH11 would be more frustrating than fun. There are better ways to make the game more challenging than TH11 (IMO).

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take a step back, and try and remember a few townhalls back.

i have been a townhall9 for ages now, but i still remember how enjoyable townhall 7 was. i recall enjoyment in the ever ending climb to getting my base as develpoed as the top guys. will i ever be at that top spot, probably not . . .. but i have passed previous leaders who have quit the game. on that note it is kind of cool that you can grind away and pass people who have gemmed.

this game could have 20 townhall levels and the game would still be enjoyable

though you do relize supercell did put a "cap" on things . . .. meaning anything new can only be 8 million and 12 days to build. so when new things come out older stuff depriciates giving new players and easier road to follow

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Originally Posted by Natesmiles

take a step back, and try and remember a few townhalls back.

i have been a townhall9 for ages now, but i still remember how enjoyable townhall 7 was. i recall enjoyment in the ever ending climb to getting my base as develpoed as the top guys. will i ever be at that top spot, probably not . . .. but i have passed previous leaders who have quit the game. on that note it is kind of cool that you can grind away and pass people who have gemmed.

this game could have 20 townhall levels and the game would still be enjoyable

though you do relize supercell did put a "cap" on things . . .. meaning anything new can only be 8 million and 12 days to build. so when new things come out older stuff depriciates giving new players and easier road to follow

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All good points, but if previous townhalls are depreciated to make a new townhall easier to get to, then the point of adding it in the first place diminishes. Obviously it's better to have a variety of townhalls, but there still has to be a limit. It would be easier to add new buildings to already existing town halls.

As the you get higher in the game and it gets harder, there will be less players on that harder level, therefore decreasing the benefits.

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Originally Posted by BrickWayne

So yeah, there's a lot of talk about town hall 11 and all that stuff. Sounds like cool idea on paper, but it would be a nightmare.

Look at the cluster♥♥♥♥ town hall 10 is already. Just imagine taking that mess and elevating it to a whole new level. You would have increased loot costs, but decreased loot availability with the loot penalty. Imagine paying millions more for upgrades, but getting almost half the loot you get right now, and then compare that to how hard it is for a TH10 already.

Plus the game would get far more technical than it needs to be. Balancing TH11 would be ridiculously hard, and any change or update made to it in the future wouldn't be easy and could mess up easier than it already does and on a larger scale.

There's already tons of people who don't want to go to TH10 in the first place, yet TH11. At that point the game would be more work than fun.

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If a game is more work than fun to a person, they could always stop playing that game.

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Originally Posted by BrickWayne

So yeah, there's a lot of talk about town hall 11 and all that stuff. Sounds like cool idea on paper, but it would be a nightmare.

Look at the cluster♥♥♥♥ town hall 10 is already. Just imagine taking that mess and elevating it to a whole new level. You would have increased loot costs, but decreased loot availability with the loot penalty. Imagine paying millions more for upgrades, but getting almost half the loot you get right now, and then compare that to how hard it is for a TH10 already.

Plus the game would get far more technical than it needs to be. Balancing TH11 would be ridiculously hard, and any change or update made to it in the future wouldn't be easy and could mess up easier than it already does and on a larger scale.

There's already tons of people who don't want to go to TH10 in the first place, yet TH11. At that point the game would be more work than fun.

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you are the Illuminati, how can i trust you?

Also th11 will not be here for a long time.

I vote for messiness. Bring on TH11 ! ! !

Not necessarily a bad idea.

I think by default the highest town hall will always be the toughest for farming; but best for trophy pushing.

The highest hall only has 2 sets of players who can make them a profit, at the moment TH10 can only really make loot of TH10 and TH9.

If TH11 existed, TH10 would have 3 sets of players to make them a profit, TH11, TH10 & TH9.

It would just move the problem TH10 has to TH11 would it not? Thus making TH10 better to farm?

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Originally Posted by daz258

Not necessarily a bad idea.

I think by default the highest town hall will always be the toughest for farming; but best for trophy pushing.

The highest hall only has 2 sets of players who can make them a profit, at the moment TH10 can only really make loot of TH10 and TH9.

If TH11 existed, TH10 would have 3 sets of players to make them a profit, TH11, TH10 & TH9.

It would just move the problem TH10 has to TH11 would it not? Thus making TH10 better to farm?

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Fully agree with this!

I'm not sure if anyone remembers when th10 came out or not... but it was terrible for all of the people who upgrades quickly. loot was incredibly bad. That is just one of the consequences of bringing in new content. I know i will be waiting3-4 months to upgrade to th11 once it comes out. still need to max heros and get all level 10 walls

I would love TH11. No chance you'll see me upgrading to it - ever. But I'd imagine not being the top town hall anymore would do wonders for TH10 loot.

Okay let me restate this. Townhall 11 will not negatively effect anyone who does not upgrade to it, and people lots of people will enjoy it. But there's bigger stuff that needs to be worked on (loot, obviously) before TH11 should be released, or else it will be very difficult to play on TH11, more than the average clasher can handle. and Supercell would have to put a lot of work into it and a minority of people will ever get to it or play in it. So it's not necessarily a bad idea for the players, but it may be for Supercell.

For a th11 to be release, we will need a larger map and of course, ... can we get another hero. We are discriminating the other units by not having their hero being represented.

I wouldn't want to play an easy game. The harder the challenges, the better the game play, that is if you want to be a top player because who would want to be a TH1. If it's too hard, stay at TH1 for the easy enjoyment.

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Originally Posted by BrickWayne

So yeah, there's a lot of talk about town hall 11 and all that stuff. Sounds like cool idea on paper, but it would be a nightmare.

Look at the cluster♥♥♥♥ town hall 10 is already. Just imagine taking that mess and elevating it to a whole new level. You would have increased loot costs, but decreased loot availability with the loot penalty. Imagine paying millions more for upgrades, but getting almost half the loot you get right now, and then compare that to how hard it is for a TH10 already.

Plus the game would get far more technical than it needs to be. Balancing TH11 would be ridiculously hard, and any change or update made to it in the future wouldn't be easy and could mess up easier than it already does and on a larger scale.

There's already tons of people who don't want to go to TH10 in the first place, yet TH11. At that point the game would be more work than fun.

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If you were around when th10 came out you would know that it was 100x worse for th10 than it is now. Thats the way the game works loot will suck after a new th level is released.

I think it would be great for there to be another town hall level for bad players to rush into prematurely.

If they add so many other things like new heroes bigger maps etc. the game would get too complicated and it would be very hard to balance everything. It's fine as it is now, we don't need another TH level. Also, farming would be impossible at TH11 because the only targets would be TH10s and other TH11s and they will always have to cook an expensive army with spells to get any loot. The good things are that bad players will rush their TH, see how hard it is because of the loot, quit and BOOM more inactives and that farming in TH10 will get better, because they can also farm from TH11s.

I agree with a few ideas here, th10 would have more loot, it would be the same for th11 when th10 came out. The "don't upgrade to th10" threads will now be " don't upgrade to th11"

We need th11 with lots of new things which will cost same as th10 with same upgrade times + 2 new collector levels (12 can be unlocked at th10 or maybe 9) and reduced time and resources for lower townhalls but lvl13 collectors must have special ability to keep 25k recourses safe and th11 should get 20% war loot and not reduced amount of loot or maybe only 5% when they attack th 10s

Stuff th11...

th11 is a great idea lol

Town hall 10 is feeling pretty complete to me, not much more they can add.... I suspect town hall 11 will be coming soon wether you want it or not.

I think th 11 would be awesome. But the amount of people who complain about loot at th 10 because it's so bad. Then yea th 11 would be a disaster if they didn't fix something about the loot.

Give it another year. So many people have so much to do at TH10. They are yet to even release TH10 exclusive dark troops.

Once people are solid into lavas and zaps, and finsihing off heros, then maybe consideration of a th11 for the top 1% - If you must. I think SC want to avoid a TH11 for as long as possible.

Need other time sinks other than content in this game.

Ok folks, lets look at both sides of the story, then opinions!

The 'Bring it on!' side
So, you want th 11, eh? What would be so good about it? A new defense? A new hero? The ability to mutilate th 10's? That may be fun and all, but if you consider that there would have to be a lvl 7 dark storage, and 2 new storages to hold it (1 gold 1 elix), and another 25 walls. The loot deficit would have to be balanced out by 4 new collectors, 2 of each, and another DD. SC would also have to expand the map, and add a few new collector levels to finsih balancing the loot.

The 'No no no!' side
So, you don't want th 11? Why not? You would rather stay with the poor th 10 loot, and troops? Ah. I see. You don't want to get crushed like you used to, do you? Along with not getting crushed, comes less loot in the economy. SC will only do so much to increase the economy's loot, and after that, you'll have to put up with it. You'll just be miserable, without loot, and nothing to look forward to.

I personally prefer the second, but that's just my opinion

Everyone is entitled to their unique opinion, so please, stop flaming people becuase they don't want the same thing(s) as you.

Thank You! :D

I think SC said not long ago that th11 was a very long way ahead, maybe a year or more away.

Theres been a lot of th11 threads lately, i wonder if something changed.

I agree it will probably be a long way away.

However personally I think the game is ready for it now. There's plenty of max TH10 that would appreciate it, even if they are the minority. Also that minority is probably also the longest term players / most active to get where they are.

For those that don't want it? Well it would assist you loot issues, you don't have anything to lose, I don't understand why people want to prevent max TH10 from having some fun new content.

I think the upgrades need to be ridiculous for it... make it take a year of 5 busy builders so that it lasts :)

I completely disagree. The people that have enough done at th10 that they're bored with the game should move up. It would solve the loot problem a little bit at th10 and make it easier for a lot of people.

Hey, Its just my logic and I think thats how it'll work.