We will go bankrupt and lose our family

Over time you added lots of new features: fishing/town/machines/products but the revenue and barn capacity remained the same. This is particularly difficult for new players like me who have to buy many new machines and buildings and accommodate all new items on the same old barn.
I dread updates you make to the game (what level it will be, how much it will cost?) and think every new addition should come with an equivalent barn capacity increase.

Old players over 65 are like reach pensioners with huge houses (barn) and noting to kill their time and constantly asking for new features.
Middle player are like working class men with a big family living in a cramped apartment block, paying mortgages every month (level) and being announced every two months or so that they have to accommodate and take care of a new child or a relative … new buildings, bees, machines….

Please give us more than 25 barn spaces on upgrades
Or
a tool shed
Or
increase BEM drop rate
Or
release new features for higher levels 70-100

Otherwise

we will go bankrupt and lose our family.

PS. I love all features of the game :o but I think they are too many in a certain range of levels :(

I have an additional idea: how about a free barn and silo upgrade every 25 levels?

I know it seems like you will never get out from under all the stress and pressure of needing to spend more money on a new machine that you aren't sure you can afford, and your barn always seems to be bursting at the seams, but there will come a time when you will be able to amass more coins than you will know what to do with! And there is a point (though I'm sorry, I don't recall when it happens) when your barn and silo upgrades will be for 50 new spaces, though I still have full barn syndrome all the time! LOL!

Here's a thread with links to many very informative threads that will hopefully help you in many areas of the game: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ew-people-tips

After completing 1000 barn/sillo storage capacity, 50 is the increment number.

We do need the tool shed please or 25 slots more in the barn/silo. There more people suggesting newer trees, recipes ect. I don't need to lose on a great game of going broke and neither do the others who have been playing a lot longer. E: Everybody needs to play fair on both sides or this isn't going to work.

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Originally Posted by Quesno

We do need the tool shed please or 25 slots more in the barn/silo. There more people suggesting newer trees, recipes ect. I don't need to lose on a great game of going broke and neither do the others who have been playing a lot longer. E: Everybody needs to play fair on both sides or this isn't going to work.

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I don't think it's possible to lose in hay day. It's one of the things I love about the game. And I've never felt there were any sides to take. I guess I'd say I don't quite understand your post.

I have to say that I think that it would be delightful to get a few more slots in the barn with each new level much like we get additional fields periodically. I think I would still have the "full barn" problem; just with a larger barn.

Tool shed...Tool shed...Tool shed!!!
I've thought that a tool shed would be a fabulous addition for quite a while. I think that we would STILL have full barns maybe just be able to survive with slightly smaller barns. We would also have full tool sheds and need expansion materials for those. Much the same as we need expansion materials for towns. That gives the investors an opportunity to sell diamonds for an additional storage facility. Win/Win.

I'm playing at level 56. I'm saving coins for my sushi bar. I kept up with the necessary coins for the last few machines, but I'm having to budget right now. I don't mind. Patience and choosing what to invest in next is a huge part of the game. I agree that there is a lot going on in the mid-level game. Personally, I'm thrilled that there is plenty of work stacked up to keep me busy for months.

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Originally Posted by MiniGardener

Personally, I'm thrilled that there is plenty of work stacked up to keep me busy for months.

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Me too. I wouldn’t play this game if there was no challenge or a bit of pressure. But I also want a balance and a level playing field.

Think from the point of view of a new player. They will keep releasing new products/machines let’s say between lvl 30-50 with no incentives or barn increase.

We will buy them but will have less and less money, will store products and have less space for tools to expand or clear land and at some point the game will lose its balance and will just become unplayable.
There’s a law in physics that says any object will disclose its mass from the substance in which is submersed. Likewise in game any new addition will disclose other materials until we will be submerse in machines and products with no chance to progress/expand.

On the other hand a barn increase for lvl 30-50 will offer a level playing field with long term players who had let’s say at lvl 34 no worries to store new materials or buy new machine in town thus easier upgrading their barn unlocking land or fish area or buying decorations.

So my point is that the game will become unsustainable if they keep adding new features without any barn increase or incentives. The question is when they will acknowledge that all these new features need an equivalent barn and money increase and when are they going to do something about it.

I think now is just the right time :D

I like your analogy d2 and your solutions. I think there's been too much added to the mid levels of the game to the point where higher level players, who have been loyally playing for the longest time, are being disenfranchised. They are having to find their own fun, without any real incentive to continue besides a love of the game. :)

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Originally Posted by d2d4

Me too. I wouldn’t play this game if there was no challenge or a bit of pressure. But I also want a balance and a level playing field.

Think from the point of view of a new player. They will keep releasing new products/machines let’s say between lvl 30-50 with no incentives or barn increase.

We will buy them but will have less and less money, will store products and have less space for tools to expand or clear land and at some point the game will lose its balance and will just become unplayable.
There’s a law in physics that says any object will disclose its mass from the substance in which is submersed. Likewise in game any new addition will disclose other materials until we will be submerse in machines and products with no chance to progress/expand.

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Thanks, d2d4!! I completely agree. I joined after the arrival of the town and a lot of other expansions of the game. I am at the point where I haven't been able to expand my barn or farm for weeks because I have been working on my town. (Sorry, I can't just let it sit there looking like a ghost town.) I've also been helping a lower level friend. It takes BEMs in a variety of configurations to upgrade shops in town, and it takes LEMs in a variety of configurations to expand the town. Thank goodness I had already opened 8 fishing areas before I acquired my train station.

I know it's my choice where to expand, and I've acquired enough "Hay Day patience" to be resigned to the long haul; but the barn is the bottleneck, gridlock, what-have-you...It's time to re-evaluate the barn to make this element of the wonderfully expanded and increasingly complex world of Hay Day function more effectively at all levels.

First of all, I'd like to add my vote to Tool Shed, please! Even though I've learned to strike a pretty good balance now, I think it would so help everyone at all levels. The only time I've been completely exasperated, feeling out of control was when I realized I never get enough axe drops to keep an efficient, smooth-running bee business w/o resorting to nappytime Tom way too much. SCs refusal to adjust the nectar bushes is confirming my paranoia. I was managing famously without Tom for so long, until the bee showed up. I already buy so many diamonds, so it wasn't like I was totally denying them a profit for Petes sake. Anyway, my real point is that the bee business is how my family would go bankrupt - if I do decide to start up again. Right now the little stinkers are closed for business.

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Originally Posted by Madge

I like your analogy d2 and your solutions. I think there's been too much added to the mid levels of the game to the point where higher level players, who have been loyally playing for the longest time, are being disenfranchised. They are having to find their own fun, without any real incentive to continue besides a love of the game. :)

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I totally agree.
We have pointed this out for so long. The mid-levels are over burdened. And we need something new for the higher levels :)

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Originally Posted by Gefion

I totally agree.
We have pointed this out for so long. The mid-levels are over burdened. And we need something new for the higher levels :)

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Madge and Gefion.. you put this so much better than I did.

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Originally Posted by Haydayphile

Anyway, my real point is that the bee business is how my family would go bankrupt - if I do decide to start up again. Right now the little stinkers are closed for business.

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Yes bees..they are cutie-sweet trouble makers. Had been there no bees I think would have never written this post.

I was lvl 34 struggling with town when they introduced bees… too my distress. I MEAN TOWN IS NOT LIKE A NEW PRODUCT OR MACHINE IT’S A WHOLE NEW FARM. You will be busy for the next 20 levels or so to buy all buildings and expand land so bees were more of a burden than a joy for me.

Filing town orders made me go rocket sky through the levels and in no time was lvl 38 having to buy bees store honey and of course a lot of axes. I wish I could have slow down leveling up so fast but that’s not possible as you gain lots of XP by filling orders in town.

Bees at lvl 38 were not a wise choice, imo.
I wonder did game managers lay off the guys responsible with keeping the game balanced, and kept only those responsible for creating, no doubt wonderful but burdensome, new products? Is out there a statistician or mathematician who evaluates effects of every new addition to the game?

I’m not a native English speaker and I might not grasp the correct meaning but what keep popping up in my mind right now are the words of Timberlake song.. what comes around goes around.
End of rant <For today>;)

D2 & gefion, very well said. it is curious that SC keeps adding more features to the mid levels yet virtually ignores 70's 80's 90's 100's+...I have stopped doing truck orders completly to slow my leveling up (74 now) so that when SC does add something to the higher levels i will have to strive for it, as opposed to already passing that level and just automatically getting it *yawn*

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Originally Posted by Gefion

I totally agree.
We have pointed this out for so long. The mid-levels are over burdened. And we need something new for the higher levels

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Originally Posted by d2d4

Yes bees..they are cutie-sweet trouble makers. Had been there no bees I think would have never written this post.

I was lvl 34 struggling with town when they introduced bees… too my distress. I MEAN TOWN IS NOT LIKE A NEW PRODUCT OR MACHINE IT’S A WHOLE NEW FARM. You will be busy for the next 20 levels or so to buy all buildings and expand land so bees were more of a burden than a joy for me.

Filing town orders made me go rocket sky through the levels and in no time was lvl 38 having to buy bees store honey and of course a lot of axes. I wish I could have slow down leveling up so fast but that’s not possible as you gain lots of XP by filling orders in town.

Bees at lvl 38 were not a wise choice, imo.
I wonder did game managers lay off the guys responsible with keeping the game balanced, and kept only those responsible for creating, no doubt wonderful but burdensome, new products? Is out there a statistician or mathematician who evaluates effects of every new addition to the game?

I’m not a native English speaker and I might not grasp the correct meaning but what keep popping up in my mind right now are the words of Timberlake song.. what comes around goes around.
End of rant <For today>;)

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Originally Posted by Gefion

I totally agree.
We have pointed this out for so long. The mid-levels are over burdened. And we need something new for the higher levels :)

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I agree that more needs to be added for upper levels.

The problem for all levels is that increases in new production items places stress on barn space. New items need to be matched with increases in barn space or the balance of the game is thrown off. Unfortunately, planks and panels seem to be rarer than ever. I play daily and managed to gather all of four or five planks the entire month of October. I did better on panels, but I'm not as stressed for silo space. This issue is frustrating.

SC listened to complaints about about bees and axes and made significant adjustments that have fixed the issue, at least for me. I'm grateful for that because I love the bees. I believe the demands for a tool shed could be alleviated by restoring better balance between new production items and barn space, specifically by dropping more planks, at least for a time until people catch up.