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Lunatic -- High five! Thanks for the kudos.
fPlant -- Typically you can figure out how the huts can be worked into your attack line/cuts -- start the cut drag(s) at the huts. Depends on the layout. Also using the BK can get down another. We rarely see huts/time being the issue w/ Dragoon attacks like 105.
Paul -- feel free to upload to youtube and post a link. That seems to work best.
wryorn Thank a lot a lot lot and alot man i became the best attacker of my clan just because of you thank you again.
your videos are very detailed and those background music are awesome it kinda add more energy to you videos. I just 3 stared a max ad th8 with lv2 dragon using 813 loon with rage and heal 105 style
bro plz can i do just one war in your clan, My current clan has taken a bit break from war, i feel boring farming farming farming so just one war?
Rake, JTJ is full time trying to evolve members for the long term haul to being awesome. So usually we don't have a free slot that isn't taken by someone that wants in long term. If there is an opening feel free to apply asking for a "JTJU Sub Guest War" and we'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by RakeNoris
Glad the tactics vids are helping.
Wry
Thank you wryhorn
so can i apply for your jtjsub guest war.
i would be very thankful if you can please tell me when is you next clan war?
Apply away, however no promises you'll get in (the admitters check you for certain aspects -- def/troop level, etc.).Quote:
Originally Posted by RakeNoris
For triangle type AD placement base such as the one on your video at 06:00, how do you tell whether you should attack starting from 6 o'clock V shape or 6-3 o'clock Line?
In my previous war against a maxed th8, I went with the line deploy by cutting both sides and release drags at mid to the 2 AD and balloons behind, nearest to the last AD and it worked well with 5 drags left but almost all are red hp.
However, if the CC balloons did not engage the last AD behind maybe due to being lured by a defense building on the other side, it might not work so I'm wondering if V shape deploy is safer as all 3 AD are closer to the drags.
As for spells, in what scenario do you use 2 Rage over Heal>Heal>Rage?
The video @ six minutes in shows a "L" layout to the ADs where they are at right angles and equally separated. In that case the decision of which line is based on which line is 'easiest' for the drags to settle into the gutshot position drives the choice. Which one has easier cuts? Which one triggers the CC with the proper timing so its engaged just prior to gutshot position or right at it? Which one has less speed bumps (high health buildings in the path). Beyond that I would have to markup a specific base to comment on pathing.Quote:
Originally Posted by harahyuna
2 heals and a rage is what we typically use. Some go w/ double rage -- but if you are doing that 99 Dragoon is probably what you should be doing.
Wry
I am in a clan where the highest guys and most of them are th 8's. I am one of the higher members and frequently have to attack bases with level 6 AD's. Could this work with level 5 loons instead of 6? If not what other strategies do you recommend I do?
I'm certain Wry will give you his thoughts, but from my perspective...ugh...Quote:
Originally Posted by akallday15
Just think of how significant the upgrade from L4 loons to L5 was loons. The jump from L5 to L6 is just as big!!
(It's actually a tad bigger, but the difference is insignificant)
I wouldn't have too much of a problem blasting into AD5s (& lower) with L5 loons, but you'll want everything you got heading into AD6s. Even then, AD666 is just a ♥♥♥♥ shoot it seems...
Hogs or, last resort..GoWipe would be my alternatives
LOL. Your fragile balloons will not take much thumping from AD666. Your best bets are:Quote:
Originally Posted by akallday15
1. Ground
2. Dragon Snipe
3. 11 Light
4. 105 Light and/or Dragoon
5. 99 Dragoon MAYBE (that attack relies on loons moving independently)
6. 813 Trident could work
So really its a ground preference but if you feel you have to go air that would be my order of consideration knowing your loons were weak.
Wry
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Originally Posted by akallday15
First, let me start by saying that I've watched your 105 and 813 vids, and both were very informative. I'd already started making cuts on my own, but I didn't really have a developed plan for the main thrust. Between the 813 and 105 vids, I've got a lot of new ideas to work with. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
That said, just yesterday I was kinda in the same boat as akallday15. I was in a war, where we had taken out all the TH8 bases except one. This last TH8 hadn't been beaten yet, and we only had TH7 attacks left in our clan. I had to try to get at least 2 stars, so I gave it a try.
I basically followed the 105 plan, since he had 3 level 6 AD's and four level 9 archer towers in the core, tightly packed, with the CC on the 4th corner. I had a choice of two directions to attack from. One direction would have made my loons pass by (or through) a level 6 wizard tower, so I chose the other direction.
At the time, my clan didn't have level 6 balloons. We have a few rushed TH9's and TH10's, so the best anyone had was level 5. My TH7 only had level 2 dragons, level 4 balloons, level 3 rage, level 4 heal.
I decided that with level 5 loons in my CC, I needed more loons, so I decided to do a 98, but based on the 105 plan you outlined in the video. Made my cuts, 2 dragons on one side (because there was a DE storage, out of AD range, but in range of a level 9 AT, and one dragon would have taken considerable time while under fire). 1 dragon on the other side. Then in went the remaining 6 dragons, then my level 4 balloons, with the CC loons right behind. I picked a spot where the balloons would hit a mortar, then path directly to an AD.
Dropped rage on the mortar and AD, to get the loons into the core as fast as possible. Heal was slightly misplaced, covered the one AD, but not the other. CC dragon came out, pulled my dragons in. The CC dragon parked on top of the TH, which was perfect, because my dragons were taking out the TH as they fought the dragon.
Sadly, a single builder hut between the core and the outer ring managed to divert 3 of my 6 dragons away from the core. With only 3 dragons in the core (instead of all 6), I only got 1 star. The TH had a tiny sliver of health left. I almost managed to 2-star a late TH8 from a TH7 with only level 5 loons in the CC! I would never have thought that possible before watching your vids! Thanks!!
Edit: I originally said 99, but as a TH7, it was only a 98. ;)
Xitra, sounds like a a great attack you came up w/ there. Too bad you don't have video record ability. I definitely would watch that one. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
Wry.
This strategy works amazing. I am a TH7 and managed to 3 star a TH8 with AD555 this war. My spells were slightly off but it still worked. Thanks again for the guide. I have 3 starred every attack since reading this and I only have lvl 2 dragons and a CC that only holds 4 loons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6rYSkuUPeQ
Glad to hear its working for you Sliup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliup
Good job! Yes, Wry is the man...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sliup
Those are about my favorite bases to attack as a TH 7 (2nd account). TH7 defense is terrible, but they can 3-star a lot of TH8s. In our clan, TH7s almost always get more heroic attack. Attacking with L2 drags and L3-4 Heal/Rage spells has some teeth to it.
Unfortunately, it will get much, much harder. lol But enjoy it for as long as you can...
This made me so good at dragon raids that i turned to GowivaQuote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
this is great - thank you for the info - ive been looking for better ways to teach my clan how to dragon raid effectively - this should stop our 1-2 stars and help clear out our center TH8s!
I can't get video, and now it's too far back in the war log to watch anyway. But I did get screenshots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
Here's the base:
http://i.imgur.com/134xPTV.jpg
Here's the first rage placement. You can see the DE storage gone. That was the lower cut at 10. Took 2 dragons. You can see one getting owned by that tesla. One dragons on the higher cut at 12. As you can see, the cut is good, but there's that builder hut.
http://i.imgur.com/exsWKfi.jpg
Finally, you can see the main thrust into the core. Notice the three dragons wandering off to the top, after taking out the pesky builder hut. So I now have 4 dragons on top, 3 in the core, and the 2 from the lower cut are dead. Balloons ignore builder huts, so most of them made it to the core. Notice the CC dragon is right on top of the TH, which worked out perfectly for me. I had to watch the replay several times to see why the TH was taking damage, because I honestly couldn't figure out what my dragons were targeting. But I'm 90% sure they were targeting the CC dragon, parked on top of the TH.
http://i.imgur.com/v4jCrpX.jpg
And here's how much health the TH had left, when the last dragon was about to be shot down:
http://i.imgur.com/OD62EHE.jpg
Xitra, I feel your pain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
LOL, umm, I know that pain exactly....(and from the sound of it, so does Wry!).Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
Note that you're marching L2 drags into AD666, which would be a challenge even for L3 drags, and you didn't bring any L6 loons from the CC, which is even higher risk...
And I don't even know how many air mines were in the way as well, which also make it challenging...
You're doing what I like to call, "rushing your loons to the core," ("Rushing") which is often what you like/want to do, but, in this situation, you either want to slow-roll them (have them come in behind the drags) and/or pull the CC to help offset your loons getting torched.
Looking at the pic, it appears your loons got ahead of your drags. This is typical when going Rage, Rage, Heal. This is a great combination you're only torching, say, 3 ADs in the core, but note that this base has a full compliment of ATs in the core as well, which is GREAT for loon pathing, but AWFUL in terms of getting all 3 ADs down quickly. Why? Because the loons will stop at each one, giving the remaining defenses more time to blast away.
Further, as if often the case when loons get ahead of the drags, the loons start tanking, instead of the drags. That's bad.
Lastly, the CC, which is great to pull your drags to the core, become a nightmare for your loons if they get ahead of the drags. Here, it appears they used a L3 drag. I'm betting the drag went after your loons, yes?
If it were me, I'd slow-roll my loons to the core and I'd do that by going heal, heal, rage.
I don't think there's any question you want heal/rage right over the top of the TH here. The drags and loons will feast with that combination. Your first heal should be as soon as/shortly after the broadside ADs start firing on your drags from your funnel and, ideally, your heal will bisect both the front-side ADs. Loons need to creep behind the drags...waiting to reek havoc on the core... Note that the Gold storage makes for a perfect spot to drop a heal, as the drags will sit on that for a little while the ADs are unloading on one/two, as it's a high HP structure.
Once the drags ~engage the first layer of the core, and with loons right behind them, you drop a another heal and rage in the core. This is critical to get all the defenses down and keep the drags health up. You don't want to lose too many dragons clearing, lest your DPS will be too little to finish the 3-star.
I also would have dropped my B king at ~noon and a single drag to start taking out all of those nonsense structures there, to help with the funnel. That way, the drags have no choice but the core...
If you insist on rushing the core, I'd pull the CC, as that's one less obstacle to worry about when your loons get ahead of your drags, but I'd caution against Rushing here...
Hey, thanks for all the pointers. The main reason I rushed the balloons in, is because I was afraid the dragons would take out the mortar, which was key to pathing my loons into the core. I've been bitten by deploying balloons too late, and they lose a key defense that was needed to path them to the core. Then the raid fails because the loons are circling the outside of the base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe
Also, I'm used to using 3 rage, so I'm still getting used to using heal spells with dragons and balloons. I haven't been brave enough to try 2 heal 1 rage yet.
About that gold storage. It's in range of two AD's, which will likely lock on the same target. Can a heal spell really do much in that situation? I did try to drop a heal spell between the two AD's, but I missed. It's basically exactly where the rage spell is, because in my screenshots, I couldn't find a separate spell effect ring.
About the traps, yes, ran into traps. Don't remember how many or what kind. I took about a dozen screenshots, I'll dig through them and see if I can find any that show traps deploying.
LOL, I think we've all been there on the late deployment (or something similar) and having loons circle the base. That's a few moments before I go for a walk to calm down....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
You're right though that the mortar was key to good pathing (the wiz tower at ~2:00 could have caused issues if late deployment). Your timing looked pretty damn solid, but if that was a heal instead, the loons are still, "passive" and, hopefully, don't get too far ahead of the dragons
I've never been a fan of 3 rage using dragons. I honestly can't recall ever even trying it. When not using 3 lightning, 2 rage, 1 heal or vice-versa is where I believe the right answer lies substantially all the time (aka, seldom, if ever, 3 rage or 3 heal)Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
In my opinion, absolutely. A L5 heal will reduce even an AD6 DPS to that less than an AD3. That's very significant in my mind. One trick where I think it works very nicely is on storage units, as those have a ton of HP and people love to surround their ADs with them (and that makes sense--I do the same thing).Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
Well, a heal here seems like a logical counter. If the drag(s) are going to sit on it for a while, a heal just significantly diminishes an AD's effectiveness. This gives you more time, which is often what you want/need to get to the ADs and keep your DPS up to finish the job for a 3-star post AD torching
Air Bombs are reduced to rubble if they hit a drag or even a loon and a heal spell is on them. People like to load up Air Bombs near the core, so a heal right in front and inside the core just offsets these almost completely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xitra
A Seeking Air Mine, however, does so much damage, a heal spell might not help as much, but if the drag was full health, a heal spell can help get such drag back in the game...as long as the AD isn't focused on it...haha
Hello Wryhorn, I am a big fan of your vids, but I have a question about the 105 Dragoon.
I am asking why 2h1r is standard for the 105 Dragoon, but why 2r1h isn't. A lot of my TH8 clan mates are debating about this, and I an on the 2r1h side.
My question is, does the spell combination vary on the base? Also, I would like to see the difference in which use should use 2r1h or 2h1r. Also, some of my TH8 clan mates are debating on the fact that more rage works better, because heal doesn't actaully heal drags that much.
Please tell me why which combination goes with which types of bases.
It really is tied to what a 105 is about (and its not about 10 Dragons and 5 Loons). What its about is HOW those units are used. With a 105, in theory, you are pathing your entire dragon force to park right between 2 ADs at which point they fight the CC, the ADs and whatever else. HEAL is a no brainer at that point. Next the flow of the attack is supposed to be inward to/through the TH and to the AD that is usually 10 tiles away from broadside center-to-center. That +2 gap and the burn through of the TH/CC (speed bumps) is why we heal as were not trying to get the dragons to kill that last AD we want the loons to do it. They are the assassins of the 105. And Loons = Rage. So we heal the drags to keep them distracting while the loons work their way to the rage and to the last AD. Thats the theory anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulYEAH
Now if the pathing isn't there for the above, but the base is very close to a 105, usually we are toggle out to a 99 Dragoon, which to the joy of your rage posse is 2R1H but the deployment is not like 105 and there are more loons -- hence more rage.
Wry
Hello Wryhorn,Quote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
You're video's and posts are really superb !
I've been using the 105 a lot in war, being a mid TH8 myself I can 3star almost any TH8 base with it.
But recently my clan mates started debating to allways use 3 rages because they don't see a point in putting a heal spell on a dragon.
Being a loyal clanmate, I changed my strategy around and gave it a try...
So I started using the 105 with 3 rage spells instead of 2r/1h or 1r/2h.
Result ?
My 3-stars became 2 stars, even worse I also did 2 one-star attacks on maxxed TH8's.
The point where the drags meet the 2 AD's and everything in between: it's a no brainer heal like you say.
I will try to convice my clan mates with switching back to my old strategy knowing I was doing it right !
That made me smirk. It's hard for people to believe that that key of most TH8 attacks is not the dragons. Its the loons. Similar to offensive lines being the key of great teams in the NFL (its not the QB).Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoopy
Wry
Bump for the draggers in my clan
So I posted several difficult TH8's from our current war, asking for advice and got none. I went in guessing at the strategy for this base- waffling between 813 and 105. Neither seemed good, and I am not experienced at 813. I chose 105.12, hoping the extra heal would help the dragons last. First half of the attack seemed good- funneled properly, dragons and loons took out the two AD's....then the dragons broke away from the middle and started dying.
I'm wondering
a) did I choose the right attack?
b) should I have used two rage instead?
thank you:)
sorry its blurry- I can't upload in HD for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrG5IoO9AiA
Yeah, that base isn't a 105 at all. Back AD way too difficult to path loons to. For a 105, you want all ADs tightly bunched up (within 5 tiles of each other), otherwise, default out of that.
If you were going to drag that, 813 or 99 light would have been my choice. Light the AD at 3:00 and attack from about the angle that you did, dropping all 13 loons behind the drags, but angled towards those ADs.
I figure that you need to get those 2 ADs down without losing more than, say 3 drags & that's pushing it. Anymore than that and you likely won't have enough mustard to clean the base. At higher TH8s, I don't recommend using B King to cut, as you'll probably need his DPS for cleanup.
Once again, note that you were dragon attacking into AD666, which is just very dicey.
Just yesterday I mass dragon attacked into AD666, BUT I used dragon snipe and utterly toasted all ADs with hogs.
Otherwise, I seldom consider attacking into AD666 with drags. It just sucks too much!
Thanks for that. I thought all of the AD's were hard to get to with balloons, so didn't know what to do. 813 was my first choice but talked myself out of it! lol
Yep, I know. None of my ground troops are strong enough for a war attack, so I have to use dragons. Of the last three wars we were matched with, 4/5 TH8's had AD666 (and some level 8 walls):(Quote:
Once again, note that you were dragon attacking into AD666, which is just very dicey.
Just yesterday I mass dragon attacked into AD666, BUT I used dragon snipe and utterly toasted all ADs with hogs.
Otherwise, I seldom consider attacking into AD666 with drags. It just sucks too much!
Incidentally, a clanmate of mine (early TH10) just 3-starred that base using 11 lvl 3 dragons, 3 rage, 2 freeze. And he just CHUCKED his dragons at it! Its like I'm being punished for trying to do things right, lol.
Blind squirrels can pull off 3 stars when hitting down (a.k.a. NUKING) like your friend did hitting TH8 via TH10. What gets your clan rolling is the ability of each level to 3 star its peer war bases. TH10 entry can be 3 starred fyi so tell your pal to focus on that. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by RainbowBrite
Thanks! This is a great tutorial video. As a th8 I've become much more effective for my clan in war. I've been getting at least 4 stars every war thanks to you. ;)
thanks so much man I got a 3 star on my 1st attack and a 2 star 99% on my second in the first war after! thanks again!
Quick Question: Is 105 dragoon 2h1r no longer viable with the addition of the air sweeper? Or should we go inverted with 2r1h?
Also, will you still be able to 99 dragoon with the air sweeper?
Thanks.
Thank you! Very easier to understand and really helped me!
- Fazeen -- High five. Glad it helped.
- PaulYeah -- As with all attacks, you are supposed to look at the base and determine the best attack. Depending on AS positioning, AD level, etc -- you still might do 105 and other air attacks.
- Michigan -- Inverted high five. Now get 6 stars next war. LOL.
- Abbas -- 2 stars per attack? Abbas you need to work more -- LOL. You should be able to 3 star off this.
Bump for clan mates
I was thinking 105.12 for this base, but seeing as how the air sweeper is directed SE, a broadside from 4 o'clock seems risky. Would an inverted 105 coming from 10 o'clock work just as well?
http://i62.tinypic.com/2prwcix.png
I usually run with 2 Rage 1 Heal when using 105 anyways! Especially now with those Air Sweepers cutting off certain attack lines. I like using 2 Rage when I have to get through several storages before the core!
How can I know where (which buildings)to cut if the base is not square or rectangular?
Your cuts are positioned to leave a 'finger' of buildings that draw the main army for a 105 to the broadside of 2 ADs you are targeting initially.Quote:
Originally Posted by belgji
WRy
WOW!!! Wonderful!
I got 3★ on my 2nd attack!
3star to a weak Th8.
I have been using Mass DG in CW and mostly ended up with1or 2★.
Now, I truly learned so much from yr guide, my elder!
Thank you xo xo much.
Wow, your strategy guides on youtube are perfect. They've helped me to become one of my clan's best attackers!! I always refer our recruits and members that are new to dragons, to your Youtube channel. That's really all you need. If you follow the checklists, you can literally 3* any TH8. If you don't 105 or 813 Dragoon, it's time to start!!
LOL, now if I can get my clan to listen (jk jk)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cvendel27
Wry
Honestly this is the best strategy for Th8's till you reach mid TH8 and it's also the most used strategy.
I used this strategy till I got mid TH8 (I'm 90% maxed now) once you're mid th8 you better max your de drills and get hogs to level 3 or GoWiPe when you're late Th8 because it's almost impossible to 3 star a max/mid th8 with dragons. Depending on the base it's sometimes best having lots of strategies on your options. Cheers and thanks for the nice videos.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
I understand this thread is getting old, but I'd like to give you props on these dragon strategies. You should repost this with ideas to counter the new air sweeper.
Yes, that is a solid idea. Updating for the tweaks we do now + AS would be nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tciresi111
Sadly, so many 'things' popping around sadly haven't gotten to it (unlike most youtubers I have a full time job - lol). But I'll work on it -- valid request.
Wry
I'm interested in an answer to this. Do you attack against the direction of the air sweeper in this case or just go at it with 2 rage/1 heal?Quote:
Originally Posted by RainbowBrite
Do you ever use 9 dragons, 4 loons and 5 max loons in CC? I see the 105 and the 813 but no 909.
Yeah thats called 99 Dragoon (there is a thread on it and vid playlist on it on channel).Quote:
Originally Posted by thinkgreen
We are also looking at 99 Light due to AS.
2 rage 1 heal is a fail strategy, and why would you go from the side of the AS? The AS is doing nothing, lightning the right AD and dragoon from the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by phildgreat
I wouldn't say 1H2R is a fail strat. All things depend on the base and deployment tactics. Right tool for the right job and all. Is is a fail strategy in certain situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebuch4
-Wry
I am also having troubles with cuts and main force deployment..as my drags tend to stray away from the Ads I am trying to broadside....How wide should be the cuts? and what do you mean by "finger of buildings" by the way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
Cut width I would say about 90 degrees (if the map was cut into a 360 degree arc). The finger appears when you cut on two sides of the arc (say dragons at 0 degrees and 270 degrees) ... buildings should be left at 315 degrees as the cut team doesn't get them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MysteriousR
Noted on that thank you..Quote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
Hey, great tutorial. I'm learning a lot, but I'm wondering if you have any updates for these with the addition of the Air Sweeper? I was able to 2-star a mid-level clustered TH8 with lvl 3 drags and max loons in the CC. I do need to upgrade my spells though, so maybe that contributed to losing out on the third star...
The way we adjusted when the AS rolled out was to focus Dragoon attacks at TH8 on AD665 bases or lower. We also would only attack if the pathing discussed in the video still could be done in spite of the AS. There is some pondering around the use of haste to offset and/or use of AS as a bounce but nothing solid.Quote:
Originally Posted by awesselink
Wry (Tim)
Need help if i hav lvl 2 drag and lvl 3 baloons, lvl 1 hog
Attachment 138316
NEW !!!
...variation to 813 dragoon
spellchange!!!
now take 2 lightning 1 rage 1 earthquake
zap one airdef with 2 lightningspells, finish it with 1eatrhquake
use the ragespell to get your drags/loons faster to the remaining airdefs
so you win one ragespell... and give your army the extra power to fullfil your 3star dreams
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthor
Right -- here is the 813R Trident Version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClRgF61mrIY
and here is the 813R Deep Version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHONuGosXjM
THere are distinct threads for those on the forum though -- just search for 813R Trident or 813R Deep.
-Wry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
Bro can you help me on base that i mentioned on last page?
Basically you are out matched here. Level two drags 'might' have a shot (via 813) on AD665 or less (light one of the AD6) but not with AD666. You need to downshift and focus on 2* (gowipe).Quote:
Originally Posted by bush420
WRy
If you have a reasonable base layout and have lightning lvl5, earthquake and dragons lvl6 you can take down a max th8 base with ads lvl6. If you dont have the option for zapquake lvl6 ads are only possible if the rest of the defenses are very weak and with only dragons lvl2 even ads lvl5 can be really hard.
Also if you are the highest player going against there number 1 I would prefer going for safe 2 stars instead of tryi g something risky and faili g. Especially with ads centered around the th it is very hard to get even 2 with dragons. Just do GoWiPe. Even giant/wizard with lvl5 troops will be better if you do it right.
If you are good at th8 GoWiPe you can take down low to mid th9s with 2 stars. As the numer 1 I would concentrate on that because being matched with rushed th9s with 4 ads and 4 seeking air mines is not a rare thing.
Not true actually. We still use the Dragoon attacks on max TH8 bases but ONLY if the layout is biased to it (i.e. ADs in 105 or 813 configuration, skel traps to ground, etc.). Typically though max TH8 is easier to take down via other options (Hog and/or Golem/Pekka variants).Quote:
Originally Posted by andrgin
-Wry
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Can anyone fill me in on how I should have attacked a base like this with the 105. I came in on the left but I failed miserably when my goons went sideways. Still learning...so forgive me noobness
initial goon drop after making a cut line. Which didn't seem very good.
Attachment 138676
then they split and went sideways instead of middle
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Thanks managed 2 stars with all dragQuote:
Originally Posted by Wryhorn
Now this one is even tougher
Dont have golem, pekka. just lvl 2 drag, lvl 1 hog and lvl 3 baloons.
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2 options i have been advised here; zap bottom AD then going 1) all drag frm south-east or 2) 105 from same place with 4 lvl 4 loons for east AD. which options looks better? please advise senior guyzQuote:
Originally Posted by bush420
For funneling; 1 drag at east darkspell factory and other at bottom-right barrack ok?
I am curious about the choice of spells for dragloon attacks. My 2nd account is a newer th8, my main is a maxed th9. I use dragloon in wars and haven't had less than 90% damage. And a 3 star at around 90% of my attacks. I have experimented with various spells and since the last upgrade have found the zap quake with an extra rage to be most effective. By using 1 earthquake, 2 lighting on the far AD, with a rage left. I can usually neutralize the sweeper by picking the direction of my attack, rather than attacking from the direction dictated to me by the base designer. And, I remove the deepest AD making my loons more effective taking out only 2 remaining ad's with a rage. The rest of the remaining defenses are usually no match for a well placed lvl3 drag attack.
This is where we answer "how would you attack" questions in general --> https://jtjclan.wordpress.com/jtju-nation-band-app/Quote:
Originally Posted by bush420
(just trying to focus posts here on the 105 specifically)
WRy
Right the 105 (this thread) is for early Dragoon attacks at TH8 (before max lightning and Earthquake spell available). If you have the pieces for a zapQauke then 105R (or 813R) are better Dragoon attacks. There are threads on each out here.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1CE
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