CW Tactics -- TH8 -- 105 Dragoon Attack Style

Here is an attack previously posted on a distinct thread but consolidating here for archive purposes.

• Why Notable? This might evolve into a Dragoon style of its own. At this time we'll call it a variant of the 105. Seems to be viable option if the 105 broadside target is hard to path to (buried more than 2 hops; tons of high health blocks before it; etc)
• Attacker: Rokthar TH8+ (max level)
• Defender: TH8~ (mid level)
• Attack Style: 105 Dragoon "99" (99 refers to swapping 1 Dragon for 4 loons)
• War Date:1/30/2015
• Spells: Rage, Rage, Heal
• Mix (CC): 9 Dragons, 4 Balloons (5 Max Loons in CC)
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDpRle7Nuc0
• BASE IN VIDEO:
• https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...-99-base-1.jpg

Here is an attack previously posted on a distinct thread but consolidating here for archive purposes.

• Why Notable? This attack shows how the 105 can be used to clear those base layouts w/ moats (an open channel around mid; a channel of non-target-able defense buildings might fit as well).
• Attacker: Akash TH8+ (max atkng level)
• Defender: TH8+ (max level)
• Attack Style: 105 Dragoon "Moat" ("Moat" suffix to imply the building gap around the core)
• War Date: 01/16/2015
• Spells: 2 Heal, 1 Rage
• Mix (CC): 10 Dragons (5 Max Loons)
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=713--195-X0
• BASE IN VIDEO:
• https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...oat-base-1.jpg

Great Post. I'll be trying out some of these strategies soon.

Thanks you so much, im a average th8 and this help me so much for clanwars !

You are a massive dork and, ultimately, hilarious...friggin love it!!! haha

AWESOME instructional guides, I've studying them intently & they have helped me significantly.

The only comment you continue to make that I struggle with is 2 heal, 1 rage vs. 2 rage and 1 heal. I understand the logic of what you're saying perfectly, but if I'm going 105, I focus on getting the loons to the ADs fast. And a lvl 6 loon under rage torches damn near anything it touches. So far, it's worked very well for me, but that's just anecdotal, I know.

I'm going to try 2 heal, 1 rage and see how it goes, but damn---it's hard not to rage the loons right into/on top of ADs.

Anyways, please do not stop posting videos to your favorite songs...friggin kills me Best song to date in all your videos was, "Click, Click Boom." I listened to it during our last war...haha

I feel like 105 is too easy for average players to mess up.

In my clan, we have a few people that do hog attacks and almost always get 3 stars on max TH8 opponents. The only real cause for failure with that attack is if the base has something genuinely surprising, like the hogs hit 5 spring traps within the first few towers, or something strange like that. And of course, they skip bases with possible un-triggerable DGB and reserve those for dragon attacks.

We have a couple people that do 8/13 with pretty good success rate... maybe 65% 3 star...... and then we have like 10-15 people that attempt 105 or 11light, with pretty shoddy success rate. Maybe half of the attacks get 3 star. Probably less than that.

Now you can argue they're doing it wrong, etc. But that's why I said "average" players. They all have read this thread and similar guides, and all have done the attack for several wars consecutively. I think for average players, hogs or 813 are better in 99% of cases, even if the air defenses are packed together closely. It's just too easy for a pack of dragons to drift astray, even if the cuts were good. Harder to mess up an 813 if you pound the timing into peoples' heads.

In my lower level clan that are just now coming up towards max TH8, I plan to encourage people to use hogs as the go-to attack unless it's clearly not a hoggable base.

I feel like there's some positive reporting bias when showing the awesome videos of dragon attacks working successfully. Then I go to my clan war replays and see them fail a lot more often. Most of the failures are quietly forgotten and don't get posted to youtube :)

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Originally Posted by LukePlaysCOC

Great Post. I'll be trying out some of these strategies soon.

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Excellent. Hope it helps.

My favourite war attack against a townhall 8, also with te 813. I've been using this attack ever since I have been in townhall 8. Its a solid attack in my opinion to get the 3 stars and help out your clan. Also you go in depth step by step in the process of using and learning the skeleton of this attack. Love it!

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Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

You are a massive dork and, ultimately, hilarious...friggin love it!!! haha

AWESOME instructional guides, I've studying them intently & they have helped me significantly.

The only comment you continue to make that I struggle with is 2 heal, 1 rage vs. 2 rage and 1 heal. I understand the logic of what you're saying perfectly, but if I'm going 105, I focus on getting the loons to the ADs fast. And a lvl 6 loon under rage torches damn near anything it touches. So far, it's worked very well for me, but that's just anecdotal, I know.

I'm going to try 2 heal, 1 rage and see how it goes, but damn---it's hard not to rage the loons right into/on top of ADs.

Anyways, please do not stop posting videos to your favorite songs...friggin kills me Best song to date in all your videos was, "Click, Click Boom." I listened to it during our last war...haha

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Fear not, I will continue to post videos w/ wonky music. At least till the labels hunt me down -- LOL.

Wry

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Originally Posted by Cleon

I think for average players, hogs or 813 are better in 99% of cases, even if the air defenses are packed together closely. It's just too easy for a pack of dragons to drift astray, even if the cuts were good. Harder to mess up an 813 if you pound the timing into peoples' heads.

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True 813 is the simplest Dragoon

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Originally Posted by Cleon

In my lower level clan that are just now coming up towards max TH8, I plan to encourage people to use hogs as the go-to attack unless it's clearly not a hoggable base.

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You realize well run clans mandate double big bombs buried and pathed in all bases (anti-hog). So not sure if that is a go to strat if you want to run w/ the really good clans -- but it will work for most.

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Originally Posted by Cleon

I feel like there's some positive reporting bias when showing the awesome videos of dragon attacks working successfully. Then I go to my clan war replays and see them fail a lot more often. Most of the failures are quietly forgotten and don't get posted to youtube :)

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A zen master once said -- "Focus on the right, and the wrong will be forgotten". O.k. I made that up. Point is the tactic and replays are intentionally showing you how to do it right. We used to analyze fails (look up hero and goat on our channel). We might go back to that (war recap looking at 3 good and 3 bad attacks). We'll see. Either way, the best answer for how to attack a base is to use the strategy the base is weak against. Thats how we do it in JTJ. We have a decision tree that you go through for a given base (like 20 questions) that leads you to the best attack style (based on base attributes -- ie. dense, moated, AD position, etc.).

Wry