CW Tactics -- TH8 -- 105 Dragoon Attack Style

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Originally Posted by alex539000

My favourite war attack against a townhall 8, also with te 813. I've been using this attack ever since I have been in townhall 8. Its a solid attack in my opinion to get the 3 stars and help out your clan. Also you go in depth step by step in the process of using and learning the skeleton of this attack. Love it!

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I love the 813. I see any problem -- I think 813. But over time I learned that some problems are better served by other styles so we began to branch out.

Wry

Great videos and this helps our clan quite a bit with dragon attacks. I just wanted to say I got so good at channeling my dragons where I wanted them that I had a epic fail couple months ago. The dragons with perfect cuts channeled in between two close ads as planned. They went alittle to fast and enemy cc took awhile to come catch up to that position. Anyways Five wizards splatted my dragon stack in two volleys. I was wondering if anyone else has had that happen or seen it? Thanks for all the work you put in Wryhorn.

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Originally Posted by powerbottom

Great videos and this helps our clan quite a bit with dragon attacks. I just wanted to say I got so good at channeling my dragons where I wanted them that I had a epic fail couple months ago. The dragons with perfect cuts channeled in between two close ads as planned. They went alittle to fast and enemy cc took awhile to come catch up to that position. Anyways Five wizards splatted my dragon stack in two volleys. I was wondering if anyone else has had that happen or seen it? Thanks for all the work you put in Wryhorn.

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Interesting. I have seen drag stack wipes but usually its tied to them zooming forward to a skeleton standing by CC (getting caught between all the defenses).

Wry

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Originally Posted by Wryhorn

True 813 is the simplest Dragoon



You realize well run clans mandate double big bombs buried and pathed in all bases (anti-hog). So not sure if that is a go to strat if you want to run w/ the really good clans -- but it will work for most.



A zen master once said -- "Focus on the right, and the wrong will be forgotten". O.k. I made that up. Point is the tactic and replays are intentionally showing you how to do it right. We used to analyze fails (look up hero and goat on our channel). We might go back to that (war recap looking at 3 good and 3 bad attacks). We'll see. Either way, the best answer for how to attack a base is to use the strategy the base is weak against. Thats how we do it in JTJ. We have a decision tree that you go through for a given base (like 20 questions) that leads you to the best attack style (based on base attributes -- ie. dense, moated, AD position, etc.).

Wry

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Are these 20 questions public?

Flowcharts are good. :D

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Originally Posted by Lunaticfringe

Are these 20 questions public?

Flowcharts are good. :D

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Right now the Tree is just growing up. So no its not public. That said, we use it each war in our clan (apply it to all TH10/9/8 bases). Seems to be getting tighter each war.

So, in short, to see it you have to be in JTJ. We do have 2 openings as of 30 minutes ago. Destiny?

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Originally Posted by Wryhorn

You realize well run clans mandate double big bombs buried and pathed in all bases (anti-hog). So not sure if that is a go to strat if you want to run w/ the really good clans -- but it will work for most.

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Of course, but there are still sometimes vulnerabilities that can be exploited to make many bases hoggable regardless of DGB in core. Either way, I was talking mostly about average players, not elite war-clans. :)

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Originally Posted by Cleon

Of course, but there are still sometimes vulnerabilities that can be exploited to make many bases hoggable regardless of DGB in core. Either way, I was talking mostly about average players, not elite war-clans. :)

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So here are the questions we might ask to get to the point of hogging a TH8 base:

• ADs not maxed?
• No DGB or GB defusable?
• Hog runs in base of 6+ buildings

If you had that as your exploit attributes then I would agree hogging isn't a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by Wryhorn

Right now the Tree is just growing up. So no its not public. That said, we use it each war in our clan (apply it to all TH10/9/8 bases). Seems to be getting tighter each war.

So, in short, to see it you have to be in JTJ. We do have 2 openings as of 30 minutes ago. Destiny?

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Not sure how I missed this... :D

Love how mechanical you/your clan is in approaching your attacks, good stuff.

As far as destiny, yeah, maybe so! LOL. I'm in a tight, small friends/family clan at the moment, filled with some ultra competitive people, so it makes for some interesting, shall we say, growing pains. :cool: Your stuff seriously helps. Great, great job!

I love your descriptions of the dragon attack styles, and I've been trying to employ them myself with pretty good success. Thank you!

One problem that I ran into in my last was was corner builders huts. We all hate them, but we all like to use them because they can be effective...

In my last dragon attack, it was a fairly strong TH8 with centralized AD, very much fitting in the 105 category. I used 105 to great success, and finished off the base with 1:00 remaining and 5 dragons. Unfortunately, there were builders huts in all 4 corners. Of course, my dragons clustered together and made a complete circuit around the base. They fell short of the last builders hut by a few seconds, so I ended up with 2 stars.

Had they split up, there would have been plenty of time, so maybe I just got unlucky that they ended up clustered together at the end.

Would you recommend placing a dragon or two on builders huts at the beginning to help alleviate this problem? That means that they would either get to the battle late, or not be where you would ideally want them at the critical star of the battle. I was so concerned about getting to those ADs before they took out too many dragons that I just ignored them.

Thoughts?

I find that you can sometimes use a cut drag to take one hut out first if positioned right, or alternatively do the cuts drag on builders hut Between the cuts, then drop the remainder as that one moves in Towards the base.

That tends to take care of the bh that ends up furthest from the drags at the end of the raid.

Wryhorn. I have a couple of attacks you might be interested in watching? I imagine you'd be welcome to visit my clan if you wanted to take a look?