What if i told you SuperCell DID listened to you and you are the one to blame?

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Originally Posted by Perseverance

You see that's exactly where you're wrong. They do make a killing off of the top players who dish out thousands. There goes your whole argument.

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If you could post a link with the % of revenue from top players then you might have an arguement.

The criticisms are widespread and huge amounts of people are getting disillusioned with the game, i'm not sure a few apologists are going to turn the tide by lying to themselves.

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Originally Posted by Perseverance

You see that's exactly where you're wrong. They do make a killing off of the top players who dish out thousands. There goes your whole argument.

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Well I didn't know so that's why I asked

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Originally Posted by Gunkar

Hi Forumer...

First of.. it is not a flame thread.. only usual and a way to talk about general stuff without the trouble to yell on everyone.

But with all the rant I see on the forum (i'm on forum since january) i've see a lot... and all that times... those last updates (since heroes buff [yeah, you hear me "buff"]) they just did what have been asked for a long times...

people were asking (those i read from higher player) better defense in champion (and also fixing the cloud issue [wich i don't know about yet]) and saying that offense was overpower... getting 2star was the bread and butter of all day.. defense could just not stand a chance anywhere in champion, leading to stay on for block of 6hrs grinding for 1cup per attack with strong army

in higher league.. elixir was useless since they were swimming in it... been asked for elix in walls..

you asked for better league bonus... better war bonus...

And guess what... that is exactly what they did... buffing heroes so they don't go Frenzy all in a corner of the base... pumping heroes hp but nerfing dmg to avoid OP... adding new defense and lvl to others... new traps... new mortar...
option to spend elix in walls.

It is plenty the results of what have been asking by forumer... and now everyone rant

now if everyone could just stop for a moment... enjoy the game.. adapt... everything will come back to normal in a certain time... yes it can takes several months... but please just stop bashing on the developpers because obviously.. all they do is just listening to you guys and trying to make the best experience in game ever...

So, thank you SC for that wonderfull game...


ps. yes i struggle with the loot... but that is not the question. overall i enjoy pretty much the rest.

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First, heroes.
It's not so much as the balancing, but rather the approach that SC adopted to reach the final version of the "balanced heroes". Summary of heroes "balancing":
Introduce heroes--> introduce 10 more levels ---> introduce hero abilities ---> reduce heroes' offense stats and/or hp ---> reduce heroes regen time.
Too many heroes buff were introduced before SC dropped the bomb on us saying that they felt that heroes were OP and needs balancing. Also, the justified hero regen time reduction came 5 weeks after they were rebalanced.
It's the little things that make players realize that SC is subtly trying to squeeze players.
Funny how they will NEVER reduce heroes regen time before the stat balancing. One might even argue that SC was testing the waters and plan to do without the regen time reduction if players don't make too big of a fuss. Oh, and our dearly beloved youtube representative also made no effort to point out that the regen times would need balancing (probably too busy enjoying the all expense paid trip than to act their part as community representatives).

Secondly, Champ League play. 2stars on maxed based are still as easy as hot knife through butter with maxed heroes. So no, heroes balancing did nothing to fix the OPness of offense. Just look at the defense wins of top players.

Third, useless elixir. This is a typical example of how far behind SC are when it comes to keeping up with the latest gameplay. Ever since spells were changed to cost elixir, trophy pushing had been impossible without going in with full lix storages, or boosting lix collectors. Then came clan wars and BOOM! Goodbye excess elixir. Those requests asking for elixir to be useful was loooong before these two updates. Basically ever since clan wars came our elixir had been reasonably scarce. These are already sufficient as an elixir sink that players had been asking for. But of course, SC had to try their luck in seeing how far they can squeeze us. So here we are, nexting through base after base offering 30k elixir.

If this is a result of listening to players, they need to clean the wax off their ears because they aren't hearing right.

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Originally Posted by willsolvit

I just don't see how people link this with greed. It's quite obvious that the money they make aren't from people dropping $1ks gemming their base (they do this irrespective of loot) but casual spenders that just boost. If the loot is bad, nobody will boost and they lose a good chunk of money so deliberately keeping the loot bad isn't a greedy move, or am I mistaken somehow?

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You are forgetting the casual players that will gem the last bit of resources before logging off in order to start an upgrade and because it's just "too hard" to get the rest of the required amount. It's obvious that BK at TH7 without a DE drill was introduced to cash in from that sort of player. I suppose Supercell is trying to "encourage" the gemming of other resources as well.
I don't think many players stop boosting because the loot is bad, I expect most casual players that boost do so to reduce waiting times, so that they can actually play the game when they are on. It's the hardcore farmers who boost and then monitor gold per hour.

Also elixir was never useless in higher leagues, you always had to manage your elixir as you progressed up the leagues.

I was almost a lone voice when I said what a stupid idea it was to create an elixir dump, but 99.9% of people on here were declaring it the best thing ever.

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Originally Posted by Quarks

You are forgetting the casual players that will gem the last bit of resources before logging off in order to start an upgrade and because it's just "too hard" to get the rest of the required amount. It's obvious that BK at TH7 without a DE drill was introduced to cash in from that sort of player. I suppose Supercell is trying to "encourage" the gemming of other resources as well.
I don't think many players stop boosting because the loot is bad, I expect most casual players that boost do so to reduce waiting times, so that they can actually play the game when they are on. It's the hardcore farmers who boost and then monitor gold per hour.

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There is a marked increase in the amount of people who are boosting collectors.

I guess we can see where SuperCell were hoping to sweat their asset.

Going on your elix comment.
Then make elix into walls avail at th10 then.
Now everyone has the ability to suck the lifeblood out of the game. Which they have done.

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Originally Posted by Growler

Also elixir was never useless in higher leagues, you always had to manage your elixir as you progressed up the leagues.

I was almost a lone voice when I said what a stupid idea it was to create an elixir dump, but 99.9% of people on here were declaring it the best thing ever.

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Nah, I'd say plenty of people on here expressed concerns about what this would do to elixir.

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Originally Posted by VincentVegas

If you could post a link with the % of revenue from top players then you might have an arguement.

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You need proof of this? Do the math and see how many gems it takes to max out a base. Then, ask some champions level no-lifers how many gems a month it takes to stay relevant. Now, multiply that by the number of no-lifers there are, and voila, you've got a huge profit off of these people. Like I said, they make a killing. You don't need actual numbers to define, a killing. One can infer based on prior knowledge and common sense.