Cold truth [2 Year Veteran]

Listen Guys, Super knows that their loot system is fluffy bunny. They also know loads of us farm. Since they are so hungry for our $$$ they added a 4th Mortar to th8 to stop us farmers from farming,when they knew that it shouldnt exist or could have at least been for th9+ Only, on top of that they feed u this fluffy bunny about 20% bonus and league bonus to hide the fact their dumping inactive bases. They think that we will all result into pushing and playing along to their little scam and end up gemming if we need extra loot.


You can complain all you want. They made this thread as like a "garbage can" to their forums so if any complaints come in about loot it wouldnt ruin their perfect little site. They dont listen nor give 2 -***** about us when it comes to making money.

I know this will probably be removed but i dont care������

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Originally Posted by ILEADER

Listen Guys, Super knows that their loot system is ♥♥♥♥. They also know loads of us farm. Since they are so hungry for our $$$ they added a 4th Mortar to th8 to stop us farmers from farming,when they knew that it shouldnt exist or could have at least been for th9+ Only, on top of that they feed u this ♥♥♥♥ about 20% bonus and league bonus to hide the fact their dumping inactive bases. They think that we will all result into pushing and playing along to their little scam and end up gemming if we need extra loot.


You can complain all you want. They made this thread as like a "garbage can" to their forums so if any complaints come in about loot it wouldnt ruin their perfect little site. They dont listen nor give 2 -***** about us when it comes to making money.

I know this will probably be removed but i dont care👊💦💦

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In b4 closed!!!
I totally agree with u on this the future of clash isnt gonna end well for them with them masking the truth unless they do something massive to change the state of the loot like bring back inactives the game is gonna fold
#RIP SUPERCELL

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Originally Posted by ILEADER

Listen Guys, Super knows that their loot system is ♥♥♥♥. They also know loads of us farm. Since they are so hungry for our $$$ they added a 4th Mortar to th8 to stop us farmers from farming,when they knew that it shouldnt exist or could have at least been for th9+ Only, on top of that they feed u this ♥♥♥♥ about 20% bonus and league bonus to hide the fact their dumping inactive bases. They think that we will all result into pushing and playing along to their little scam and end up gemming if we need extra loot.


You can complain all you want. They made this thread as like a "garbage can" to their forums so if any complaints come in about loot it wouldnt ruin their perfect little site. They dont listen nor give 2 -***** about us when it comes to making money.

I know this will probably be removed but i dont care👊💦💦

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Cry me a river.

I guess, I mean when I found out about the 4th mortar I thought th 9 may get it but I leaned more to the side that only th10 will have it since th9 gets the 4th air def, 4th wiz tower, extra arch tower, 2 xbows and an archer queen. Update comes out and th8 gets it? Kinda shocked

I can see where you come from on everything in this post and a part of me thinks that there may be some truth to it. But you have to remember that in the long run, the success of this game effects supercell more than us so they definitely care about their players. As for the fourth mortar, it was uncalled for and completely random and I think that we could have done just fine without it. BUT, barch and all arch is still very useable. I am currently pushing at 3470 cups and just yesterday defeated a maxed base with four mortars using all archers. That being said, I think we will survive.

The league bonuses? I don't see a reason to complain. It is a very good start to an overall solution to the loot issue. You need to keep in mind that inactive bases fluctuate as the games popularity does. The more players playing and getting online, the less inactive bases. It's simple. This is why loot is so bad after updates as players who have quit come back to check out the new features. Just be patient with it, loot will get better.

And try to be positive... couldn't hurt could it?

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Originally Posted by Breadstick

I guess, I mean when I found out about the 4th mortar I thought th 9 may get it but I leaned more to the side that only th10 will have it since th9 gets the 4th air def, 4th wiz tower, extra arch tower, 2 xbows and an archer queen. Update comes out and th8 gets it? Kinda shocked

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It made sense to me, you get 1 new mortar at TH6, then another at TH7, now another more at TH8.

New loot bonus helps tackle it imo, the bonus is amazing.

A lot of gum flapping but where's the proof?

I've had great loot all the time. Well ok not "great" but I'm keeping all 4 builders busy all the time (th9) so..

Great post, dude. But... Why 2 years veteran still care about whatever is added to TH8? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by YoN

Great post, dude. But... Why 2 years veteran still care about whatever is added to TH8? :rolleyes:

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I read about peoples complaints. In and off Clash of Clans

I only see Barch being worse for players at TH10 attacking TH9/10. It might also make pushing with it harder, but at TH9 it is still usable to attack TH8 in my opinion. Hardly the end of the cheap armies. If anything the new trap will hurt more then the mortar. You should still be able to get a profit from it.

As for them not helping Farmers I have to disagree. If they really wanted to make it harder they could put caps at a lower level or change how you find bases for example blocking anyone who is TH9 from seeing TH8's once they hit level 6 troops (lets say 50% tier 1) or move below a set number of trophies. It's not a direct attack. That said they do look after the gemmers first since it is their income, and keeps the game free for those of us who do farm...

Who the hell is shocked that SuperCell wants you to buy gems?

I personally believe the 4th mortar makes perfectly sense. I think in the long run it will prevent the TH10 lvl7 BARCH attacks on TH8s. TH10s attacking TH8s with BARCH lvl6 were already unbalanced and now with lvl7 BARCH it became even worse, so I think and guess that is what SC is trying to level, and they do have my support om trying to level things out.


I like to add I believe there is an easier and better fix for this. I am a string believer that any player should not be able to attack any other player with a -1 lower Townhall, no matter what league they are in. So, if I´m in gold 3, and I am TH8, I should not be getting TH6 or lower represented for attack. I should get TH7+.

I also think the percentage of loot to be stolen should not be capped, I think it should be the same percentages of your storages, pomps, clancastle, as they are today but no cap, while keeping Townhall difference penalty. Together with that. the townhalll penalty should be changed into a Townhalll difference factor, not penalty. In other words, if I attack a higher level TH I should be rewarded and be able to grab more loot.

I strongly believe that will rebalance the game, and I´m already sure a lot of people will disagree :-) but seriously, give it some time and think about this people......

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Originally Posted by dominion

I only see Barch being worse for players at TH10 attacking TH9/10. It might also make pushing with it harder, but at TH9 it is still usable to attack TH8 in my opinion. Hardly the end of the cheap armies. If anything the new trap will hurt more then the mortar. You should still be able to get a profit from it.

As for them not helping Farmers I have to disagree. If they really wanted to make it harder they could put caps at a lower level or change how you find bases for example blocking anyone who is TH9 from seeing TH8's once they hit level 6 troops (lets say 50% tier 1) or move below a set number of trophies. It's not a direct attack. That said they do look after the gemmers first since it is their income, and keeps the game free for those of us who do farm...

Who the hell is shocked that SuperCell wants you to buy gems?

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Totally wrong. If they block th9 from seeing th8 then champions league would be th8 and below paradise since they'd never get destroyed or even attacked. Think more before suggesting something.

I love that every update people complain that new content is only for TH 9 & TH 10. Now they add something for TH 8 and people are complaining about that! My only complaint is now I have to change my base design to include it. 😀

Maybe cause Barbs and archers are now level 7?

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Originally Posted by ILEADER

Listen Guys, Super knows that their loot system is ♥♥♥♥. They also know loads of us farm. Since they are so hungry for our $$$ they added a 4th Mortar to th8 to stop us farmers from farming,when they knew that it shouldnt exist or could have at least been for th9+ Only, on top of that they feed u this ♥♥♥♥ about 20% bonus and league bonus to hide the fact their dumping inactive bases. They think that we will all result into pushing and playing along to their little scam and end up gemming if we need extra loot.


You can complain all you want. They made this thread as like a "garbage can" to their forums so if any complaints come in about loot it wouldnt ruin their perfect little site. They dont listen nor give 2 -***** about us when it comes to making money.

I know this will probably be removed but i dont care👊💦💦

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Couldn't of said it better.

I like it. Considering people are building their 4th mortar and put it outside so I can destroy it. Easy %50.

you are a two year vet and are only th8? wow you really must be having loot problems.

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Originally Posted by ILEADER

I read about peoples complaints. In and off Clash of Clans

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Read before posting.

Moan moan moan. I can only barch. I hate mortars because i only go after collector raids

I completely agree, I've only been playing since January but even since then I've noticed the big nerfs to farming. Collector bases are almost non existent anymore but I understand the need to regulate that. With the most recent updates walls for elixir is making it really difficult to cover the cost of any decent army and the 4th mortar doesn't help farming as well either. In the end It is a free game and not having spent any money on this game so far I can't really complain.
TH9 - 95

Loot does/did need to be fixed but adding more inactives is not the answer. Bots get most of them anyway. It was clear the extra loot needed to come from outside the active player pool, since storage raids don't add to the economy. The increased war and league bonus goes some way to addressing this issue. I think there's more to be done but this is a step in the right direction. I would still like to see a league bonus for defending successfully and lower rearm cost. Personally I've raised my trophies from 1750 to 2150 and will continue pushing slowly until I reach the highest league I can successfully raid at.

As a sort of tangent to the discussion, when exactly is SC going to put an end to bots? They aren't rampant by any stretch but they surely do skew the 'available loot' when they are specifically nexting for x amount of loot. There are sto many ways they could stop them, is the conspiracy here that the bots could actually be helping SuperCell make money?

As to the 4th mortar, well anyone who is an expert Barcher is going to get %50 anyways, all it really hurts are the casual players who haven't spent months on end perfecting the tricky overlapping wave drops that avoid wiz/mortar and just barely squeak the %50 even against a beefy base. I know I haven't!

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Originally Posted by kaibosh

As a sort of tangent to the discussion, when exactly is SC going to put an end to bots? They aren't rampant by any stretch but they surely do skew the 'available loot' when they are specifically nexting for x amount of loot. There are sto many ways they could stop them, is the conspiracy here that the bots could actually be helping SuperCell make money?

As to the 4th mortar, well anyone who is an expert Barcher is going to get %50 anyways, all it really hurts are the casual players who haven't spent months on end perfecting the tricky overlapping wave drops that avoid wiz/mortar and just barely squeak the %50 even against a beefy base. I know I haven't!

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Ha ha yeah I have theories about sc'scomplete inaction towards bots. I don't see why a billion dollar company can't stop some håckers

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Originally Posted by AminT

Maybe cause Barbs and archers are now level 7?

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Barching lvl 7 is being prevented for us upper guys adding the 4th mortar

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Originally Posted by Manyolo

Totally wrong. If they block th9 from seeing th8 then champions league would be th8 and below paradise since they'd never get destroyed or even attacked. Think more before suggesting something.

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I wish I could give you some rep.

Here. Have some Rep

the 4th mortar is mainly directed at TH10.. cause due to loot penalties being max for th10 Only th8/9 were feasible targets for th10 barchers... (mostly)..those saying its not a big deal... wait for everyone's 4th mortar to get maxed...

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Originally Posted by SorrowCat

It made sense to me, you get 1 new mortar at TH6, then another at TH7, now another more at TH8.

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Why not just go ahead and give th10 a nuclear warhead to counter all of these ridiculous defenses. You guys got to understand that you cant keep getting new defenses without new offensive ways or the battles will stalemate and the game will cease to exist. Im raided regularly but im ok with it because im not getting owned by weaker players.

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Originally Posted by ThePiGuy

I completely agree, I've only been playing since January but even since then I've noticed the big nerfs to farming. Collector bases are almost non existent anymore but I understand the need to regulate that. With the most recent updates walls for elixir is making it really difficult to cover the cost of any decent army and the 4th mortar doesn't help farming as well either. In the end It is a free game and not having spent any money on this game so far I can't really complain.
TH9 - 95

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This is exactly the feedback i get from a healthy % of th9's. You shouldnt be placed in the position your in and forced to push to a league where its more difficult depending only on that new loot bonus to do the upgrades you want to do.

The loot problem is negatively affecting their income too. Just takes time to fix such an intricate system and whatever way they fix it might actually be irreversible so they better think hard about it

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Originally Posted by Czar

the 4th mortar is mainly directed at TH10.. cause due to loot penalties being max for th10 Only th8/9 were feasible targets for th10 barchers... (mostly)..those saying its not a big deal... wait for everyone's 4th mortar to get maxed...

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Exactly. Now it seems only th 10s facing loot problem acutely. 1-2 months from now, th 9-7 will join the club ;)

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Originally Posted by SorrowCat

It made sense to me, you get 1 new mortar at TH6, then another at TH7, now another more at TH8.

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And th9s should have 5 mortars? And th10s should have 6?

We'd all do the same in their position. Ive always had some idea that they are dumping bases and i dont care. I would be doing exactly the same thing. If there were so many bases to farm off of compitition would drop off and the game would be a shadow of its former self. In a way, when they take the old bases off, it makes the game better. I know most of you disagree and are just greedy and want full storages all the time, but base drop is a good thing. And yes i do believe the recent loot bump on bonuses was to appease you whiners out there. But again, i would have done the same thing. Keep playing it smart SC 👍 and remember... You dont have to listen to us. Your collaberative effort and brilliant minds alike created this game. Dont ruin it by making it a corrupt democracy...i.e (the US) Thanks Obama

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Originally Posted by Senior0028

We'd all do the same in their position. Ive always had some idea that they are dumping bases and i dont care. I would be doing exactly the same thing. If there were so many bases to farm off of compitition would drop off and the game would be a shadow of its former self. In a way, when they take the old bases off, it makes the game better. I know most of you disagree and are just greedy and want full storages all the time, but base drop is a good thing. And yes i do believe the recent loot bump on bonuses was to appease you whiners out there. But again, i would have done the same thing. Keep playing it smart SC 👍 and remember... You dont have to listen to us. Your collaberative effort and brilliant minds alike created this game. Dont ruin it by making it a corrupt democracy...i.e (the US) Thanks Obama

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Its not as if were the reason they are still existant. Not like every single thing they add in every update is taken from us brilliant fans. The only thing they are good at doing themselves is F'ing us over Money wise✌️

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Originally Posted by TheWompyOverlord

I can see where you come from on everything in this post and a part of me thinks that there may be some truth to it. But you have to remember that in the long run, the success of this game effects supercell more than us so they definitely care about their players. As for the fourth mortar, it was uncalled for and completely random and I think that we could have done just fine without it. BUT, barch and all arch is still very useable. I am currently pushing at 3470 cups and just yesterday defeated a maxed base with four mortars using all archers. That being said, I think we will survive.

The league bonuses? I don't see a reason to complain. It is a very good start to an overall solution to the loot issue. You need to keep in mind that inactive bases fluctuate as the games popularity does. The more players playing and getting online, the less inactive bases. It's simple. This is why loot is so bad after updates as players who have quit come back to check out the new features. Just be patient with it, loot will get better.

And try to be positive... couldn't hurt could it?

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Great attitude!!!

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Originally Posted by ILEADER

The only thing they are good at doing themselves is F'ing us over Money wise✌️

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No one is effing anyone over in regards to money. Whether or not you spend money is solely up to you. I can only imagine how much people complain about the rest of their lives if they get this bent out of shape over an iOS app. :p

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Originally Posted by ILEADER

Its not as if were the reason they are still existant. Not like every single thing they add in every update is taken from us brilliant fans. The only thing they are good at doing themselves is F'ing us over Money wise✌️

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Ha okay. Everything the fans have thought of has probably went through the minds of the many team members over the many years of work, and not just once. Most of the sh** fans think up has already been written off for other reasons. As of now SC is running a billion dollar business. (YES THEY DO MAKE MONEY, SORRY ABOUT IT) and i trust them to make this game increasingly better at a steady pace. So just stop all the complaining and sit back and enjoy the show

Would love to have a look at your base, mate. Care to share it?

They aren't very smart and their customer service is horrible. Literally you have to be a fool to give them money the way they are treating us. Adding a 4th mortar when attacking is already too challenging just kills it for the new comer. TH9 raids TH8 that is the game model, it's the fun of the game. Killing the fun will cancel all growth of the member base.

I'm surprised SC hasn't made this thread disappear yet.

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Originally Posted by EliSmith

They aren't very smart and their customer service is horrible. Literally you have to be a fool to give them money the way they are treating us. Adding a 4th mortar when attacking is already too challenging just kills it for the new comer. TH9 raids TH8 that is the game model, it's the fun of the game. Killing the fun will cancel all growth of the member base.

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Adding a fourth mortar is too challenging??? Really???? :rolleyes: I bet you're the type of person that thinks they deserve a raise every year just for being an employee.

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Originally Posted by Kevinstinks

Adding a fourth mortar is too challenging??? Really???? :rolleyes: I bet you're the type of person that thinks they deserve a raise every year just for being an employee.

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we look forward to your youtubes against 4 max operational mortars...show us your barching secrets please.... without spells...

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Originally Posted by Kevinstinks

I farm for about 1-2 hours a day in a single session and find a few good collector raids here and there. Sure, I would love to have collectors raids all day long, but I don't mind breaking (with wall breakers) into the middle of a few bases to get storage raids as well from time to time. I do not use spells, to costly.

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Originally Posted by Kevinstinks

Adding a fourth mortar is too challenging??? Really???? :rolleyes: I bet you're the type of person that thinks they deserve a raise every year just for being an employee.

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What does one thing have to do with the other?

Like the fourth mortar? I bet you're the type of person who wears blue on Wednesdays. Take that!

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Originally Posted by Manyolo

Totally wrong. If they block th9 from seeing th8 then champions league would be th8 and below paradise since they'd never get destroyed or even attacked. Think more before suggesting something.

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The OP was talking about SuperCell attacking farmers at town hall 9 & 10. Farmers lower their trophies to where the money is, and don't care about league. What I said was an over the top example of a game breaking way to force people to buy gems or quit at those town halls. It wasn't a serious suggestion. I thought I had made that clear. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by dahimi

What does one thing have to do with the other?

Like the fourth mortar? I bet you're the type of person who wears blue on Wednesdays. Take that!

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Technically they have nothing to do with each other. But, it was my way of conveying the fact that people on here act so entitled. Its rather obnoxious.

Lol, Ill keep you posted on Wednesday :) I do wear blue pretty often.

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Originally Posted by Kevinstinks

No one is effing anyone over in regards to money. Whether or not you spend money is solely up to you. I can only imagine how much people complain about the rest of their lives if they get this bent out of shape over an iOS app. :p

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Reviewing the negative tone and intent of most of this dude's postings leads me to wonder who it really is that complains and gets bent out of shape in real life over an ios app, perhaps he needs to step back from the super cell kool aid fountain

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Originally Posted by Czar

we look forward to your youtubes against 4 max operational mortars...show us your barching secrets please.... without spells...

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Secrets? There are no secrets. Drop wall breakers, enter the desired sections of a base once walls are destroyed. Pretty cut and dry. Does it work on every base? Of course not. But it does work and I go after the bases I know I can make a profit off of.

If you drop a couple troops as a sacrifice to the mortars you can time when you drop wall breakers so they reach the walls before the next splash. Then repeat till you break into the storage compartments. Its not rocket science.

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Originally Posted by Senior0028

We'd all do the same in their position. Ive always had some idea that they are dumping bases and i dont care. I would be doing exactly the same thing. If there were so many bases to farm off of compitition would drop off and the game would be a shadow of its former self. In a way, when they take the old bases off, it makes the game better. I know most of you disagree and are just greedy and want full storages all the time, but base drop is a good thing. And yes i do believe the recent loot bump on bonuses was to appease you whiners out there. But again, i would have done the same thing. Keep playing it smart SC 👍 and remember... You dont have to listen to us. Your collaberative effort and brilliant minds alike created this game. Dont ruin it by making it a corrupt democracy...i.e (the US) Thanks Obama

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What he said.

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Originally Posted by dahimi

What does one thing have to do with the other?

Like the fourth mortar? I bet you're the type of person who wears blue on Wednesdays. Take that!

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This made me crack up. Nice.

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Originally Posted by Kevinstinks

Secrets? There are no secrets. Drop wall breakers, enter the desired sections of a base once walls are destroyed. Pretty cut and dry. Does it work on every base? Of course not. But it does work and I go after the bases I know I can make a profit off of.

If you drop a couple troops as a sacrifice to the mortars you can time when you drop wall breakers so they reach the walls before the next splash. Then repeat till you break into the storage compartments. Its not rocket science.

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naah I wanna see an attack of your's with a base with 4 max working mortars... I am pretty bad at following instructions... :o

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Originally Posted by ILEADER

You shouldnt be placed in the position your in and forced to push to a league where its more difficult depending only on that new loot bonus to do the upgrades you want to do.

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Why? Not that I don't agree that the loot system is terrible, but why shouldnt a th9 have to go up to crystal to take advantage of the loot bonus? Are you saying they should get 30-75k for farming th8s in gold?

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Originally Posted by Senior0028

Dont ruin it by making it a corrupt democracy...i.e (the US) Thanks Obama

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Lol what now?

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Originally Posted by Kevinstinks

Adding a fourth mortar is too challenging??? Really???? :rolleyes: I bet you're the type of person that thinks they deserve a raise every year just for being an employee.

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Of course you deserve a raise every year just for being an employee. Due to inflation, money is less valuable every year. If you do not get a raise of at least the same rate as the inflation rate you are effectively getting a pay cut every year just for being loyal and staying with the same company.

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Originally Posted by erethizon

Of course you deserve a raise every year just for being an employee. Due to inflation, money is less valuable every year. If you do not get a raise of at least the same rate as the inflation rate you are effectively getting a pay cut every year just for being loyal and staying with the same company.

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That is one of the funniest things Ive read in a while. Thanks for the laugh. :)