New trap: Freeze bomb

Hi everyone! I have thought about a new permanent trap: the Freeze Bomb. I believe that traps are good, because they can change a lot both attacking and defending strategy.
The freeze bomb may look like an ice ball covered by ice spikes/a snowball that drops from the sky/an explosive snowman/tell me yout ideas about this!
The Freeze bomb affects only ground troops, freezing them for some seconds (so the effect is similar to the freeze spell, in this case the attacker's freezed troop won't be able to move and to attack).
So, here it is some stats I thought (obviously, they can be changed and I'd like to receive some suggestions to make them better)
Freeze Bomb is unlocked at town hall level 9 (you have 2 of them) and at TH 10 you unlock a 3rd one.
Explosion time: as a giant bomb
Space: 1×1

LEVEL 1
Building cost: 10 000 gold
Building time: ---
Re-arm cost: 10 000 gold
Range: 3 tiles
Freeze time: 2.5 seconds
LEVEL 2 (available at TH 9)
Upgrading cost: 1 250 000 gold
Upgrading time: 1 day
Re-arm cost: 15 000 gold
Freeze time: 3 seconds
Range: 3 tiles
LEVEL 3 (available at TH 10)
Upgrading cost: 4 000 000 gold
Upgrading time: 2 days
Re-arm cost: 20 000 gold
Freeze time: 4 seconds
Range: 3.5 tiles

I would add this trap in the next update, as it is in theme with Christmas/snow/winter.

For heroes, I think the trap should not freeze them, but instead would half their movement/attack speed or other ideas may be that heroes can't move but they can still attack/the DPS is halfed.

Let me know your opinions ans suggestions to improve the thread!

Thank you for reading!


THREAD VERSIONS
1.0 26th October 2014
1.1 2nd November 2014 (trap radius reduced)
1.2 29th November 2014 (added poll)
1.3 9th December 2014 (small changes in freeze time and trap appeareance, hero effect modified)
1.4 8th January 2015 (upgrading costs slightly increased as this trap is quite powerful)

I love this idea btw, and I've had a thought about the look/animation. the only thing i could think of was a bomb that was covered in ice but thats not very creative. I think it would be easier if it was just a patch of ice on the ground that slowed people down. What do you think?

would this be for the christmas update?

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Originally Posted by HeavensFace

would this be for the christmas update?

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Yes, it's in theme with Christmas, like skeletons are in theme with Halloween

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Originally Posted by HeavensFace

would this be for the christmas update?

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Yeh s/he said they could take it out in the christmas update because it would tie in.

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Originally Posted by RossKingFrogy

I love this idea btw, and I've had a thought about the look/animation. the only thing i could think of was a bomb that was covered in ice but thats not very creative. I think it would be easier if it was just a patch of ice on the ground that slowed people down. What do you think?

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This could be an idea, but I was thinking to something more original/realistic. Thank you for the suggestion ;-)

Any other ideas/feedback?

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Originally Posted by FedeX333X

Any other ideas/feedback?

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Bro lets add it to th7s too.. I mean this update th 8 n up everybody got something new. Y do th8 n up get all the fun? And yes lets make it open for everyone like from th6 n up. About the looks, we can just colour the regular bomb with light blue.

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Bro lets add it to th7s too.. I mean this update th 8 n up everybody got something new. Y do th8 n up get all the fun? And yes lets make it open for everyone like from th6 n up. About the looks, we can just colour the regular bomb with light blue.

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There are other traps which can be unlocked at TH 6/7/8, and this trap would be too OP at TH 6/7.

What about the stats? Do you think they're right or they need to be changed?

This idea has been around for an extremely long time and there's already a ton of discussion that has already taken place, please do a search before posting an idea.

searching for "freeze bomb":

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...freezebomb.png

searching for "freeze trap":

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...freezetrap.png

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This idea has been around for an extremely long time and there's already a ton of discussion that has already taken place, please do a search before posting an idea.

searching for "freeze bomb":

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...freezebomb.png

searching for "freeze trap":

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...freezetrap.png

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You may be in right, but almost all the other threads I found are something like:
" Hey, I'd like a new trap, that freezes enemies and may look like a bomb with ice on it! Booom! That's so cooool, isn't it?"

I like this idea. I support it 100%

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Originally Posted by Brisingr99

I like this idea. I support it 100%

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Thank you for your support!

Very good idea! I'd like to see this in Xmas update!

Not sure i like adding more and more defense to the game, it is pretty hard as it is to make loot.
Also with the addition of new mortar and skeleton traps adding another defense object would make hogs even more unless.

Be careful what you wish for cause you might just get it....

There are TOO MANY TRAPS ALREADY! lol no for real though its getting expensive to re-arm after an all out assault on your base haha. In my opinion what we need is a way to un-arm a trap (Remove it from your base and put it into some sort of virtual holding cell) This would help if you didn't want to have to use your traps like the old days before the re-arm update.

This is a repost it was my idea.

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Originally Posted by CPH3

This is a repost it was my idea.

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Really? My post is 4 weeks ago, yours is only 3 weeks ago.

Really nice idea. Detailed and explained well! But since its a bomb and not a spell (and really cheap to activate for what it does) the radius should be smaller, maybe 2, 2, 2.5 tiles? It should make it more tactical then dumb luck!

Like a choke point with three mortars barely in range etc.

Just an idea!

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Originally Posted by Nanotear

Really nice idea. Detailed and explained well! But since its a bomb and not a spell (and really cheap to activate for what it does) the radius should be smaller, maybe 2, 2, 2.5 tiles? It should make it more tactical then dumb luck!

Like a choke point with three mortars barely in range etc.

Just an idea!

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Thank you for yuor suggestion! Yes, you are right, however 2 tiles range is smaller than a normal bomb one and 4 tiles is like a giant bomb. I've reduced to 3 tiles for level 1-2 and 3.5 for level 3 because 2/2.5 tiles is too small for a big and maxed out TH 10 base that get attacked by GoWiPe :-D

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Originally Posted by FedeX333X

Hi everyone! I have thought about a new permanent trap: the Freeze Bomb. I believe that traps are good, because they can change a lot both attacking and defending strategy.
The Freeze bomb affects only ground troops, freezing them for some seconds (so the effect is similar to the freeze spell).

So, here it is some stats I thought (obviously, they can be changed and I'd like to receive some suggestions to make them better)
Freeze Bomb is unlocked at town hall level 9 (you have 2 of them) and at TH 10 you unlock a 3rd one.
Explosion time: as a giant bomb
Space: 1×1

LEVEL 1
Building cost: 10 000 gold
Building time: ---
Re-arm cost: 10 000 gold
Range: 3 tiles
Freeze time: 3 seconds
LEVEL 2 (available at TH 9)
Upgrading cost: 750 000 gold
Upgrading time: 1 day
Re-arm cost: 15 000 gold
Freeze time: 4 seconds
Range: 3 tiles
LEVEL 3 (available at TH 10)
Upgrading cost: 3 000 000 gold
Upgrading time: 2 days
Re-arm cost: 20 000 gold
Freeze time: 5 seconds
Range: 3.5 tiles

I would add this trap in the next update, as it is in theme with Christmas/snow/winter.

There is just one thing missing: how would the trap look like. I've tried to think about something (a snowball that drops from the sky, an explosive snowman,....) but I came out with any satisfying, original and realistic idea. So, I'd like to receive suggestions for the trap appearance, and I will be happy if someone have though of better stats/trap name! Oh, I forgot an important point: do you think it would be right if the trap affects also heroes? (I'll personally say yes about this point). Let me know your opinions!

Thank you for reading!

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Love this idea!!

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Originally Posted by Gechi999

Love this idea!!

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Thank you for your support!😊👍

I've finally undestood how to add a poll! Let me know what you think about this idea!

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Originally Posted by Darktitan

There are TOO MANY TRAPS ALREADY! lol no for real though its getting expensive to re-arm after an all out assault on your base haha. In my opinion what we need is a way to un-arm a trap (Remove it from your base and put it into some sort of virtual holding cell) This would help if you didn't want to have to use your traps like the old days before the re-arm update.

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If you don't want to use traps, you can just not re-arm them.
About the virtual trap inventory, it may be cool but I think it is ruled out (for the same reason because you can't sell items except decorations).

I like the freeze spell duration, give it a slight delay like big bombs or maybe even a little longer. I'd also like to see it cost de to rearm like the inferno. Maybe make it freeze and stop healing for the duration to compensate?

There's another thread about a freeze bomb ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS SUBFORUM that was posted before yours. Please use the search feature to find if your idea has been posted before.

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Originally Posted by Seikijin

I like the freeze spell duration, give it a slight delay like big bombs or maybe even a little longer. I'd also like to see it cost de to rearm like the inferno. Maybe make it freeze and stop healing for the duration to compensate?

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Thank for your ideas!
As I wrote, the explosion time would be the same as giant bomb (~1 sec) but it may be extended to 1,5 second.
About the re-arm costs, it could be an idea to have a trap re-armed with Dark Elixir to reduce total rearm cost in gold because it can be quite expensive if you sum up all the other traps ones.
With DE I'd say LV1 100DE, LV2 150DE, LV3 250DE.
Let me know if you think they are quite right ☺👍

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Originally Posted by X7386

There's another thread about a freeze bomb ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS SUBFORUM that was posted before yours. Please use the search feature to find if your idea has been posted before.

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These two ideas are very different: mine is about a completely NEW trap with its own cost, upgrading time and so on.The other thread is about a way to select between two different effects (like the skeleton trap with air and ground) of the bombs: freeze and normal, without any other cost

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Originally Posted by FedeX333X

These two ideas are very different: mine is about a completely NEW trap with its own cost, upgrading time and so on.The other thread is about a way to select between two different effects (like the skeleton trap with air and ground) of the bombs: freeze and normal, without any other cost

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Lol mine will have all the stats, just never have came around to making it. Also mine is a new trap

Looking for a great animeted figure for the freeze bomb? Here is my idea

I am gonna make short and quick ... the bomb itself should be a nitro tank or something with a balloon(like the air mine) strapped to it. Also maybe add a couple of explosives(tnt sticks or a barrel full explosives)max lv should have spikes underneath it.

the freeze bomb should only be actived against air troops(but ground troops in the radius can be effected.

I haven't read all the replies so i could've missed something..

We need freeze bomb

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Originally Posted by FedeX333X

Hi everyone! I have thought about a new permanent trap: the Freeze Bomb. I believe that traps are good, because they can change a lot both attacking and defending strategy.
The Freeze bomb affects only ground troops, freezing them for some seconds (so the effect is similar to the freeze spell).

So, here it is some stats I thought (obviously, they can be changed and I'd like to receive some suggestions to make them better)
Freeze Bomb is unlocked at town hall level 9 (you have 2 of them) and at TH 10 you unlock a 3rd one.
Explosion time: as a giant bomb
Space: 1×1

LEVEL 1
Building cost: 10 000 gold
Building time: ---
Re-arm cost: 10 000 gold
Range: 3 tiles
Freeze time: 3 seconds
LEVEL 2 (available at TH 9)
Upgrading cost: 750 000 gold
Upgrading time: 1 day
Re-arm cost: 15 000 gold
Freeze time: 4 seconds
Range: 3 tiles
LEVEL 3 (available at TH 10)
Upgrading cost: 3 000 000 gold
Upgrading time: 2 days
Re-arm cost: 20 000 gold
Freeze time: 5 seconds
Range: 3.5 tiles

I would add this trap in the next update, as it is in theme with Christmas/snow/winter.

There is just one thing missing: how would the trap look like. I've tried to think about something (a snowball that drops from the sky, an explosive snowman,....) but I came out with any satisfying, original and realistic idea. So, I'd like to receive suggestions for the trap appearance, and I will be happy if someone have though of better stats/trap name! Oh, I forgot an important point: do you think it would be right if the trap affects also heroes? (I'll personally say yes about this point). Let me know your opinions!

Thank you for reading!

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Really good idea!

I do not think the bomb should freeze heroes, but slowing them down slightly would make sense.

To make this less OP, I would reduce freeze time by 1 second for each level.

I have an idea for what the bomb would look like, imagine an ice ball covered in ice spikes. Basically a ball of icicles pointed in all directions. Like a sea urchin made of ice.

This is a great idea and I hope to see it in this years christmas update!

What Reggie said 👆. Totally agree. This needs to happen.

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Originally Posted by huntsman16

Looking for a great animeted figure for the freeze bomb? Here is my idea

I am gonna make short and quick ... the bomb itself should be a nitro tank or something with a balloon(like the air mine) strapped to it. Also maybe add a couple of explosives(tnt sticks or a barrel full explosives)max lv should have spikes underneath it.

the freeze bomb should only be actived against air troops(but ground troops in the radius can be effected.

I haven't read all the replies so i could've missed something..

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Thank you for your ideas!
I made this trap only for ground troops, because for air troops it would be quite OP (imagine an all dragon army freezed for 3 seconds: the dragons will be killed quickly by air defences!)
However, the freeze air trap may be an idea but it should have different stats.☺

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Originally Posted by Reggie24

Really good idea!

I do not think the bomb should freeze heroes, but slowing them down slightly would make sense.

To make this less OP, I would reduce freeze time by 1 second for each level.

I have an idea for what the bomb would look like, imagine an ice ball covered in ice spikes. Basically a ball of icicles pointed in all directions. Like a sea urchin made of ice.

This is a great idea and I hope to see it in this years christmas update!

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Thank you a lot for your suggestions! I'll edit my post to include them.
About heroes, you are right, the Archer Queen would be killed really quickly if freezed! So, for heroes, the trap will half their speed movement.
About reducing freeze time, I don't think it is a lot and it is so OP, maybe I'll change it to 2.5, 3, 4.
Thank you for the ideas about the bomb appearance! They are really useful! ☺

i think it's a good idea but it need some change to have the equal for the attacker and the deffender
this bomb can slow down troop that is ok
if that bomb clan freeze troop so the troop can move and can be attack, after the time they can move and can die :rolleyes:
by the way, it's a good idea because we have freeze speel

I honestly don't want anymore traps, as there is already quite a bit, and I feel if you added 2 or 3more traps you are cluttering the base with too many traps. It would just be annoying for attackers, so no.

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Originally Posted by coyote23

We need freeze bomb

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You are right 👍😃

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Ice Bomb/ Pictures(Now Idea for Christmas update)

http://forum.supercell.net/attachmen...038434&thumb=1Its coming for the air troops to
Hello i have a new trap. It is the Ice Bomb what it does is when a ground troop is in its radius it will explode a freeze potion which will freeze the enemy's troops for a period of time. The infernos will cut the freeze duration in half if the troop is frozen and is hit by infernos. This trap affects only ground troops. You will have the option to switch between ice bomb and regular bomb so its incorpated into the regular bomb. As an example lets say you have 4 bombs, you could have 4 bombs set on ice or 4 set on regular.but you cant have 4 regular and 4 ice. Or you could have 2 regular 2 ice.
at Th 8 you can have 1 of these traps,

at Th 9 you can have 2,

and Finally at Th 10 you can have 3.

Thanks and hope you like it!

It cost 30k to buy it. No time to build
Lvl 2 upgrade cost is 100k. 1 day to upgrade
lvl 3 upgrade cost is 500k. 3 days to upgrade
lvl 4 upgrade cost is 1mil. 5 days to upgrade

As a regular giant bomb, this ice bomb will have the same exploding delay.

Level	Trigger radius	re-arm cost	freeze duration
1	3.5	10,000	1 sec (heroes not affected
2	3.5	15,000	1.5 sec (heroes not affected
3	3.5	17,500	2 sec (heroes not affected
4	3.5	20,000	3 sec ( heroes not affected

http://forum.supercell.net/attachmen...005711&thumb=1This archer just got trapped & frozen by the ICE BOMB!!! Beware You could be next

http://forum.supercell.net/attachmen...915109&thumb=1Giant bomb all the way!!

http://forum.supercell.net/attachmen...947144&thumb=13 going off at the same time!!! RUN


http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...e-Bomb-Picture

Have to say does sound interesting though 😊

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Originally Posted by Mann23

Have to say does sound interesting though 😊

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Any idea about the different hero effects? Which one is the best in your opinion?

Yes but, can there be seeking air freeze bombs also?

Sounds cool

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Originally Posted by roland1235

Yes but, can there be seeking air freeze bombs also?

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Well, I think that a trap able to freeze air troop would be quite Over Powered (for example, a group of ballons or dragons freezed for 4 seconds would be killed quickly and also air troops have a very slow movement speed)

if it falls from the sky and freezes things, would it be able to temporarily ground flying troops because they can't use their wings? That'd be Cool. Get my Drift? Cuz Icey ​what i did there.

Yes but I dont want it to cost to much. The traps are priced way way too much now. Spring trap is the only one worth it.

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Originally Posted by QueenBeeq

Yes but I dont want it to cost to much. The traps are priced way way too much now. Spring trap is the only one worth it.

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Yes, you are right, re-arming all the traps is TOO expensive (it may cost even 120 000 gold)! So, the possibilities are two: reduce re-arm costs or maybe this trap could be rearmed with dark elixir. With DE the costs should be like this:
LV 1 20 DE
LV 2 30 DE
LV 3 50 DE

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Originally Posted by QueenBeeq

Yes but I dont want it to cost to much. The traps are priced way way too much now. Spring trap is the only one worth it.

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Yes i agree, but if it was lower the amount of freeze time should also be reduced.

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Originally Posted by Unknownf

Yes i agree, but if it was lower the amount of freeze time should also be reduced.

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Yes, you are right, this trap costs quite much because if you place it strategically, the freeze bomb will be very effective.
So, if the costs are reduced, the efficacy of the trap must be reduced too. As said above, the possible solution is to make this trap re-armable with Dark Elixir. :-)

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if it falls from the sky and freezes things, would it be able to temporarily ground flying troops because they can't use their wings? That'd be Cool. Get my Drift? Cuz Icey ​what i did there.

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I think this would be too Over Powered.... XD

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Sounds cool

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Originally Posted by Mann23

Have to say does sound interesting though 😊

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Thank you everyone for the support!

Super idea

Don't know if someone posted this here already but it's ruled out
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...rum-guidelines

Other trap ideas: Moat, lightning rod, tar pits, pitfall, hole trap, poison shrubs, wildfire, rock wall, Decorations (dogs/animals) that attack enemies, ability to add poison ivy to walls, sticky trap, vine trap, stun, taser, vortex, freeze/permafrost, tremor/earthquake

so far, i love it

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Originally Posted by LOKY

Don't know if someone posted this here already but it's ruled out
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...rum-guidelines

Other trap ideas: Moat, lightning rod, tar pits, pitfall, hole trap, poison shrubs, wildfire, rock wall, Decorations (dogs/animals) that attack enemies, ability to add poison ivy to walls, sticky trap, vine trap, stun, taser, vortex, freeze/permafrost, tremor/earthquake

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The one you mentioned are not the ruled out idea, but a list of all the idea suggested by forum members; the list of ruled out idea is above them

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so far, i love it

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Super idea

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Thank you! ☺ I am now working on something much BIGGER!

I enjoy the idea and I think a simple color change of the standard bomb or if u made a giant freeze bomb it could be a bunch of icicles strapped to dynamite...I like it affects the troops in area.... what about an ice bow for flying troops...maybe doesn't stop them but reduces moment speed by half

What if instead of completely freezing it reduces movement speed for affected time like reduces speed by half

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Originally Posted by FedeX333X

The one you mentioned are not the ruled out idea, but a list of all the idea suggested by forum members; the list of ruled out idea is above them

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His point is still valid considering you're not supposed to repost ideas already under consideration.

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Originally Posted by mmf01

His point is still valid considering you're not supposed to repost ideas already under consideration.

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You are right, but I think it's not a fault posting a better and more detailed idea than the other ones, because if you look at the other trap posts, most of them are quite unclear, undetailed and also almost never seen. I am just helping an idea to grow better.

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Originally Posted by jesse89james

What if instead of completely freezing it reduces movement speed for affected time like reduces speed by half

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In this case this trap would be quite useless, who cares halfed movement speed of enemy troops for 4 seconds? So the trap wouldn't be worth the money. What attackers mind is that troops can attack and can move 😃

Its level 2 upgrade cost is too cheap, and I think that 3.5 radius of freeze seems a bit small for level 3, but a 4 tile radius seems too big.
I love the idea.

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Originally Posted by Crystalis

Its level 2 upgrade cost is too cheap, and I think that 3.5 radius of freeze seems a bit small for level 3, but a 4 tile radius seems too big.
I love the idea.

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Thank you! I have slightly increased both level 2 and 3 upgrading costs, as this trap is quite powerful. About the freeze radius, it's true, 3.5 seems too small and 4 tiles is too big! But i think 3.5 is better as with a 4 tiles radius the trap would be too OP. Thank you again also for your positive feedback! XD

Sorry, if I haven't been here for 2/3 weeks, but I had to deal with my exams! ☺ Now I am back!