A New Clash Era

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October 25th, 2014
Player7

A New Clash Era

Whether through intention of the developers or not I believe a new way of playing clash will become the norm.

1. Resources - I wouldn't expect resources to go back to the way they were, 100k of each will probably be the new 200k of each from now on for atleast th 9 and above. Perhaps this may lead to reduced cost and train time of troops (if it doesn't then expect a smaller community of quite regular players). Also I think even more emphasis will go the way of league bonuses to encourage higher league play.

2. Upgrades - "keeping all builders busy" syndrome will ebb away a bit, you will either feel more appreciative of an upgrade and plug away for it, get frustrated and quit, or reduce your game time quite a lot. Acquiring loot and therefore expensive upgrades will now be accepted as a skill and not just how much you play. Even I cannot deny that barching collectors is easy and repetitive.

3. War - not quite there yet as a profitable option, I think wars will eventually be another method of acquiring loot, but not the easy way, you will have to use strong armies to do it. Again this will probably need reduced cost and train time of troops to make it bearable.

these are just my thoughts im probably completely wrong but what do you think?
October 25th, 2014
Zombiebender

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Originally Posted by Player7

100k of each

Please upgrade my loot to 100k each, how's 100 of dark? Thanks SC. ;)
October 25th, 2014
Upfrost

Actually really good thoughts you have there, lets see what the future brings to us!
October 25th, 2014
AminT

You never know.
October 25th, 2014
BoardGuest808888

If what you said were true (most probably yes), then who would dare to upgrade town hall ? I mean, for th 8 and up, if 100 k become the norm, every newly upgraded villages will be outcompeted by others who have already upgrade their villages and have enough powers of the respective town hall.

I do not doubt your saying, but the future does sound... bleak...:p
October 25th, 2014
sirhybrid

Unfortunately, you sound correct.
October 25th, 2014
Zombiebender

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Originally Posted by BoardGuest808888

If what you said were true (most probably yes), then who would dare to upgrade town hall ? I mean, for th 8 and up, if 100 k become the norm, every newly upgraded villages will be outcompeted by others who have already upgrade their villages and have enough powers of the respective town hall.

I do not doubt your saying, but the future does sound... bleak...:p

So are saying you get 100k regularly?
October 25th, 2014
fette

erm, how is this a new era?

sounds like the exact way we been playing this game eversince loot went downhill and cw was introduced... :confused:
October 25th, 2014
Player7

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Originally Posted by Zombiebender

So are saying you get 100k regularly?

if you include the loot bonus of c2 I can get 100k of each regularly yes.

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Originally Posted by fette

erm, how is this a new era?

sounds like the exact way we been playing this game eversince loot went downhill and cw was introduced... :confused:

Yep, I see what your saying, but a lot of comments in the loot thread and plenty of other threads suggest people think or hope it's temporary. A new era would suggest this loot situation (however each individual sees it) will not be reverting back to how it was.
October 25th, 2014
Zombiebender

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Originally Posted by Player7

if you include the loot bonus of c2 I can get 100k of each regularly yes.

What if you include the cost of searching?
October 25th, 2014
Player7

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Originally Posted by BoardGuest808888

If what you said were true (most probably yes), then who would dare to upgrade town hall ? I mean, for th 8 and up, if 100 k become the norm, every newly upgraded villages will be outcompeted by others who have already upgrade their villages and have enough powers of the respective town hall.

I do not doubt your saying, but the future does sound... bleak...:p

i suppose it does sound a little bleak :( but I think people ahead of the game will always be just that. On the other hand there are ppl who maxed heroes before the changes and ppl who maxed walls before those changes so I guess it swings and roundabouts.

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Originally Posted by Zombiebender

What if you include the cost of searching?

then no :p.
October 26th, 2014
kaibosh

The bottom line is, people would rather dump their elix into walls so they are less frustrated when their base gets rolled. Gemming to pay for upgrades is much easier to rationalize as a result. Of course, I have been in C1 for weeks and rarely see a TH10 who even has skulls for walls, who needs better than purple walls once you have Infernos?

The bump in league bonus has likely kept a LOT of people from outright quitting the game. The 4th mortars haven't settled in yet, once they do and designs around them gel you can expect Barching to become... difficult...

Skel traps or not, I still do my 'farming' with 33 Hogs and a smattering of clean-up troops, there are endless TH9 bases without a single spot for a big bomb within the walls. When will they learn?
October 26th, 2014
Ctowndrama

I got to admit, the new war loot has actually made the wars profitable for me and most of my clan, even with donations. Not by much, but so much better then before
October 26th, 2014
Player7

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Originally Posted by Upfrost

Actually really good thoughts you have there, lets see what the future brings to us!

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Originally Posted by AminT

You never know.

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Originally Posted by sirhybrid

Unfortunately, you sound correct.

If it does happen like this im not sure if it will work out, im praying that sc are hunting pesky wabbits, just an official "we are currently hunting wabbits" would help here.
October 26th, 2014
Player7

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Originally Posted by kaibosh

The bottom line is, people would rather dump their elix into walls so they are less frustrated when their base gets rolled. Gemming to pay for upgrades is much easier to rationalize as a result. Of course, I have been in C1 for weeks and rarely see a TH10 who even has skulls for walls, who needs better than purple walls once you have Infernos?

The bump in league bonus has likely kept a LOT of people from outright quitting the game. The 4th mortars haven't settled in yet, once they do and designs around them gel you can expect Barching to become... difficult...

Skel traps or not, I still do my 'farming' with 33 Hogs and a smattering of clean-up troops, there are endless TH9 bases without a single spot for a big bomb within the walls. When will they learn?

i hope there is more to this than just elix for walls and gemming.

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Originally Posted by Ctowndrama

I got to admit, the new war loot has actually made the wars profitable for me and most of my clan, even with donations. Not by much, but so much better then before

Thats good to hear actually.
October 26th, 2014
TheWompyOverlord

Sadly if nothing is done... this is correct.
October 26th, 2014
Xlcblx

Im a new th10 and havent had issues keeping my builders busy.. I had to keep 1 free at times because 4 days with no builder would waste 10m gold so i waited 2 days and upgraded walls.. Honestly farming is going to require to be high in trophies now
October 26th, 2014
bradleytjohnson1

I'm a th9 and I don't raid anything under 200k of each so...
October 27th, 2014
Player7

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Originally Posted by Xlcblx

Im a new th10 and havent had issues keeping my builders busy.. I had to keep 1 free at times because 4 days with no builder would waste 10m gold so i waited 2 days and upgraded walls.. Honestly farming is going to require to be high in trophies now

ive been c2 raiding myself but have decided to have one more go at the lower leagues, so far it's been more lucrative but only just started. Max baloons soon and then max Giants for slower raiding strategies, with those two troops lvls I can dump barch/bam because I'm bored of it personally and see which league to go to. I think your prob right about high trophy farming though.

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Originally Posted by bradleytjohnson1

I'm a th9 and I don't raid anything under 200k of each so...

"cool story bro", trophy range? Th lvl attacked? Mainly Storages or collectors? The devil is in the detail.
October 27th, 2014
perkunas

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Originally Posted by bradleytjohnson1

I'm a th9 and I don't raid anything under 200k of each so...

...says the guy who has < 50% skull walls ...:confused:

perhaps that means 200k combined?
October 27th, 2014
weasel

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Originally Posted by bradleytjohnson1

I'm a th9 and I don't raid anything under 200k of each so...

so......after the cost of nexting you profit about 30k on average. Good work
October 27th, 2014
Lawdyofthetots

Quote:

Originally Posted by Player7

Whether through intention of the developers or not I believe a new way of playing clash will become the norm.

1. Resources - I wouldn't expect resources to go back to the way they were, 100k of each will probably be the new 200k of each from now on for atleast th 9 and above. Perhaps this may lead to reduced cost and train time of troops (if it doesn't then expect a smaller community of quite regular players). Also I think even more emphasis will go the way of league bonuses to encourage higher league play.

2. Upgrades - "keeping all builders busy" syndrome will ebb away a bit, you will either feel more appreciative of an upgrade and plug away for it, get frustrated and quit, or reduce your game time quite a lot. Acquiring loot and therefore expensive upgrades will now be accepted as a skill and not just how much you play. Even I cannot deny that barching collectors is easy and repetitive.

3. War - not quite there yet as a profitable option, I think wars will eventually be another method of acquiring loot, but not the easy way, you will have to use strong armies to do it. Again this will probably need reduced cost and train time of troops to make it bearable.

these are just my thoughts im probably completely wrong but what do you think?

Wow this is a really depressing way of looking at it.... Good thing im already maxed.
October 27th, 2014
hogyh03

Due to the new league bonuses I think you will see a number of people farming a little higher up than they used to. I used to farm in Crystal 2 and 3 but now farming with loonion in Master 3 for a little quicker searches and a nice 100k bonus for each win.

Wars aren't profitable on an elixir and dark elixir basis but are a massive profit in terms of gold especially with the boost to that. The first war we had with the update the majority of our Th10s had over a mil gold and elixir. Since we war constantly I use wars for gold and raids for elixir and dark.
October 27th, 2014
kingdo

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Originally Posted by hogyh03

Due to the new league bonuses I think you will see a number of people farming a little higher up than they used to. I used to farm in Crystal 2 and 3 but now farming with loonion in Master 3 for a little quicker searches and a nice 100k bonus for each win.

Wars aren't profitable on an elixir and dark elixir basis but are a massive profit in terms of gold especially with the boost to that. The first war we had with the update the majority of our Th10s had over a mil gold and elixir. Since we war constantly I use wars for gold and raids for elixir and dark.

This. I started even before that last update. I search only for elixir when I farm... my gold is still always higher than my elixir... Never had an idle builder btw, but I'm almost done with "th9" upgrades, I am starting the th10 ones... might need more gold :)