Thunderbears

Thunderbears. This clan is idealy suited for mature (18+) people who have just started playing Coc. We dont care what level you are so long as you are active and responsible.

See our website, click this: http://thebearempire.enjin.com

THUNDERBEARS!Are Go!

To join:

You must be mature. 18+ years old is the required age. We don't care what level you are if you are 18 and over.

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14 to 17 year olds: We will accept 14 to 17 year olds who can demonstrate maturity. As a demonstratiom of maturity we ask 14 to 17 year olds to post in our Thunderbears thread and write at least 100 words about why they want to join us.

Here is the deal. These are the basic rules.

Donate archers only.
Donate at least 50 troops per week.
No swearing.
Be nice.

Here are the advanced rules.

New Recruits.

We make sure that are members are mature, active and reliable. That way we can all have fun and enjoy the game. So we screen people when they join. So new recruits need to pay special attention to the chat when they join because we will ask you questions, see if you chat and donate to others. If new recruits ignore the elders or leader then they will very quickly kicked. If we see new recruits ignore donation requests and keep asking for troops then likewise, they will soon be kicked.

We also have a key question that we may ask new recruits to answer. If they don't answer correctly then we know they have not read our rules in this forum. We are Vikings. We worship a God called THOR.

It takes only one elder who is doing the screening to kick a new recruit.

No clan hopping.

People who leave our clan without permission and will not be welcome back. It is only polite and fair to ask the Leader first. You may ask to transfer to one of our sister clans (Icebears and Riverbears), but you must remain in the clan for at least a week and ask the leader first. There are very good reasons why we have this rule. If the leader is not on line, then ask again later on. Jumping around our clans without asking first will most likely end in you getting kicked and banned.

It takes three elders or the leader to kick a clan hopper.

Do not ask for Elder.

It is our experience that anyone who asks for elder is usually the worst possible elder to have. So we have a rule against it.

It takes only one elder or the leader to kick a person for asking for elder.

Check the chat.

Every time someone makes a request for troops or posts a message in chat, the chat window gets a red icon. If people are not opening the chat window to check then they are deliberately ignoring any donation requests that are in chat.

If people don't check the chat then how can they possibly see your clan mates asking for troops? To make sure that our members are checking the chat we sometimes will greet you and ask you questions. If you don't respond then its obvious that you are not checking the chat. That means you are also not seeing donation requests from your clan mates. To stop this type of selfish behavior we will kick members who constantly and repeatedly ignore the elders and leader.

It takes three elders to kick a member for ignoring the chat.

Donation Hanging

Donation Hanging is where a player comes in and makes a donation request but obviously ignores any outstanding donation requests in the chat. In other words they can not be bothered to check the chat and give troops, but they somehow expect everyone to give troops to them. We don't want players like this. If a player leaves donations hanging in the chat and asks for troops they will be warned and then kicked if they do not respond or change their behavior.

It takes three elders or the leader to kick a member for donation hanging.

Behavior

We are an adult clan for people aged 18+. However we will accept younger players 14 to 17 who demonstrate a mature and responsible attitude. A persons age doesn't really matter so much so long as they like good clean fun and can participate in our clan in a mature manner, so that is why we are flexible in this respect. However if a person demonstrates that they are obviously under age or can not behave in a mature manner, they may be kicked.

Behavior also includes things like showing respect and not putting anyone down. We expect people to give help, advice and friendship freely. Antagonizing others, being rude and disrespectful will result in the person being kicked.

It takes three elders to kick a member for breaking behavior rules.

Enforcement of rules.

Normally it takes the agreement of three elders to enforce the rules and kick a member. This is to prevent any member being kicked unfairly. In these cases the Leader counts as an elder.

Obscene or deliberately offensive language requires only one elder to kick.

Incorrect troop donations requires three elders or the leader to kick.

The leader normally kicks people who do not donate at least 50 troops per week at the end of the week, according to the recommendations provided by the Guardian.

SCREENING OF NEW RECRUITS

This is our screening process that we use to ensure that new recruits are suitable for our clan.

1) RESPONSE

If the new recruit does not say anything when they join we give them three minutes to respond. For example we say "Player XYZ, you have three minutes to respond". If there is no response after that time they are immediately kicked. We are not going to waste our time on people who do not have the common courtesy to greet us when they join.

2) AGE

When a new recruits joins we ask them their age. Anyone who is 18 and over is accepted. Teenagers between 14 and 18 may be accepted if they demonstrate maturity and are over level 30. We draw the line there. No one under 14 is accepted. We try to encourage under age players to leave by themselves, even give them some troops to take with them, but if they refuse to leave then we kick them.

3) RULES

The next question we ask is if they know our rules. If they say they do because they have read them on the forum then we ask the key question. "who do we worship". If they can not answer that question correctly with "Thor" then we ask them to read the rules again and give us the correct answer. If they can not do this then they are kicked if they are suspected of outright lying, or told the rules in chat if we suspect they may have English as a second language.

If they have not read the forum, then we give them the most basic rules: Donate only archers, 50 donations per week, do not ask for elder, check chat for donations.

After that, welcome the new member "Welcome to Thunderbears!"

Sometimes members will stall and respond to the questions in a vague or even aggressive manner. For people who stall, remind them they may leave the clan if they don't want to answer our questions, and then kick them if they remain obstinate. For those fortunately rare instances where players respond aggressively, e.g. by saying "None of your business", kick them immediately.

Why do we have this screening process?

Simply to ensure that the people in our clan are mature solid reliable people who enjoy having good clean fun.

This is the fifth clan we have founded. In that time we have found there to be unfortunately many people who simply like to be selfish, abusive and immature. We try our best to keep these sorts of people out of our clan. So we have some rules that we expect people to follow because they benefit everyone, and we screen people to try and ensure that the people who join our clans can follow these rules.

Members Rights

Once you are accepted as a member you have certain rights.

1) The right to enjoy the game environment free from harassment. This will be upheld by having immature and aggressive people removed from the clan.

2) The right to remain in the clan. We do not kick members if they follow the rules. That means you will not be kicked out because someone wants their friend to join and we have run out of room. You will not be kicked out because you only have low level archers to donate. You will not be kicked out because your trophy count is low. Etc.

3) The right to vote in clan decisions. To vote in clan decision you must vote on this thread. All decisions are subject to the "Deadman's hand policy", which means 50% or more members must vote against a proposal, otherwise it passes.

4) The right to ask for sleeper status. Once you have been in the clan for a while you may ask for "sleeper status" for up to four weeks. That means you will not be expected to meet the donation requirements. People sometimes need to ask for sleeper status when they know they will be inactive for a while. To ask you must post your request for sleeper status here in this thread.

Responsibilities
As a member of Thunderbears you have certain responsibilities.

1) To willingly and freely give full troops donations to all those who ask who are not breaking the rules.

2) To willingly move to another Bear clan when asked by the Leader or an Elder.

We are part of the Imperial Bear Empire. This is a group of clans with the same prinicples and values: Riverbear, Icebears and Thunderbears, Each clan helps each other out at times. Sometimes we need more members in one clan than we do in another. Sometimes we make a new clan, with every clan contributing a few members to get it started. When we do this we need members who will respond immediately to the needs of the Empire.

For that reason we need members who share the idea of helping each other out in times of need. We need members who are committed to the idea of gradually expanding our Empire of clans. Through this we become very strong and very flexible. We have different clans that serve different purposes. We can them offer our members a safe and enjoyable environment depending on their own individual goals and available time.

The Imperial Bear Empire

Thunderbears is part of the Imperial Bear Empire. This is a group of clans who all share the same basic values. At the head of this Empire is one leader, who is called "The Big Moo".

The basic values are:

1) Respect for all members.
2) To help and assist all members.
3) Never to tolerate bad behaviour such as swearing, racism, sexist, arrogant and rude behaviour.

The word Imperial means we are continuously expanding. We find that we tend to keep our members and that we keep getting more members joining. We have strict rules that we enforce, but we do so fairly and justly. That means our members can enjoy their gaming experience free from disruption caused by rude, intolerant and selfish people. As a result we continue to grow.

To belong to the Imperial Bear Empire a clan is expected to:

1) Be in a state of continual recruitment, by open and invite only.
2) To only close the clan to recruitment when screening new recruits.
3) To participate in clan reinforcement.
4) To participate in new clan formation.

This is how it works.

As clan approaches capacity (45+ members) the Big Moo, the Leader or Guardian surveys the other clans of the Empire. If any clan of the Empire is under 40 members then recent recruits are directed there. This is called clan reinforcement.

When all clans stand above 40 members we then "swarm". A swarm is when a new Bear clan is formed. Each clan is then immediately obliged to contribute between 3 to 5 members to the new clan, including one elder. With five clans we can expect the new clan to be immediately filled with at least 15 to 25 members, all of who will be familiar with our rules and our way of doing things and at least five experienced elders.

Experience has shown us that the presence of a substantial number of existing bear members in a new clan, along with experienced elders contributes mightily to the success of the new clan. The new clan will then carry out its own recruitment.

The term of service in the new clan is at least one week, at maximum two weeks. After that members can return back to their home clans. In the meantime the original clans will carry on, business as usual. Sufficient room should be reserved in each clan to accommodate returning members. That means the moment each clan hits 45, they should then send new recruits to the new clan.

If the new recruits refuse to move, kick them. We are an Imperial Empire. We have no time for insular people.

The fundamental premise is that members are obligated to move if necessary. Of course we shall ask for volunteers first, but in lieu of sufficient volunteers then each and every member and elder carries the duty of participating in Empire building. Refusal to fulfil this duty to help us expand and help each other is grounds for being removed. Do not join our Imperial Empire unless you are willing to serve.

Members of the Imperial Bear Empire include

Thunderbears
Icebears
Riverbears

Allied clans of the Imperial Bear Empire include:

Clan Built

Clans who have signed non-aggression pacts with the Imperial Bear Empire include:

Farming4gold

Friends of the Imperial Bear Empire include

Cavebears (The Ancient Bear Empire)




Ummm, why is the Imperial Leader called "The Big Moo"?

When we close any clan business we signal the end by going "Moo!", as is the tradition. It is only fitting that the leader of all Imperial clans be called a Big Moo, because his or her Moo shall be be the biggest Moo! It all makes perfect sense once you have drunk enough mead.

Political Structure.

Most of you will be familiar with the terms leader and elder. However the Imperial Bear Empire has several other ranks. These other ranks are not part of the game, but help to ensure our group of clans function efficiently and work as a team.

The Big Moo

This is the highest position. This is an elected position. The position of the Big Moo is re-elected every month at the end of the month. The Big Moo is responsible for:

1) Determining the allocation of members from each clan in times of new clan creation and in times when an imbalance of numbers in clans requires members to shift.

2) Creating policies and procedures that ensure the Bear clans work together as a unified whole.

Guardian

This is the second equal highest position. This position is offered by the Big Moo to members who are willing to accept it. The position of Guardian is permanent. Each bear clan has one Guardian. The Guardian is responsible for

1) The administrative duties of their clan. This includes detailing information for the Leader with respect to donation counts.

2) Proposing changes to existing clan rules and overseeing the voting on such proposals.

3) Enforcing the directives of the Big Moo.

4) Advising the Leader.

Leader

This is the second highest position. Leaders are chosen by Guardians. Each clan has one Leader. The position of Leader changes every two weeks. The Leader is responsible for the following:

1) Enforcing the rules of the clan as an Elder.

2) Promoting members who fulfil the requirements of Eldership

3) Changing the entry requirements for their clan to allow recruitment or to close recruitment.

4) Enforcing the directives of the Big Moo.

5) Kicking members who do not meet donation standards.

Sergeant at Arms

This is the third highest position. Sergeants at Arms (SAA) are ex-leaders of bear clans, ex-Guardians, and any member who has made an outstanding contribution to the the Bear Empire, be it recruitment, marketing or artistic expression. The position of SAA is permanent. SAAs are responsible for the following

1) Voting on the Imperial Council.

2) Assuming leadership of a clan at any time at the request of the Leader.

Elder

This is the fourth highest position. Elders are nominated by Leaders and must be approved by Guardians. The position of Elder is permanent providing the Elder continues to meet Elder responsibilities. Elders are responsible for

1) Screening new recruits

2) Enforcing the rules.

Where a member has broken a rule usually three elders are required to agree to kick the member. This is to ensure the member is kicked fairly and with good reason. However there are two significant exceptions. Only one elder is required to kick a member for using obscene or deliberately offensive language. Only one elder is required to kick a member who asks for Eldership.

The Imperial Council

The Imperial Council is made up of the following

The Big Moo, Guardians and Leaders and SAAs.

The purpose of the council is to discuss and vote on matters that:

1) Affect all the clans
2) Affect the creation of new clans
3) Affect nonbear clans within the Empire.
4) Elect the Big Moo.

Election of the Big Moo.

The Big Moo is elected on a monthly basis at the end of each month.

All members of the council may submit names for election.

Each Guardian vote carries a weight of 3
Each Leader vote carries a weight of 2
Each SAA vote carries a weight of 1

In the case of a tied vote, voting will be repeated three times until the tie is broken. If the tie is not broken then the existing Big Moo will continue in the role for another month.

Proposals

Any member of the council may introduce a proposal.

The Big Moo may veto any proposal.

In voting on proposals the following weighting applies.

The Big Moo's vote carries a weight of 5
Each Guardian vote carries a weight of 3
Each Leader vote carries a weight of 2
Each SAA vote carries a weight of 1

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Hail thor!!! Hail thunder bears!

Hail thunderbears!!!!

Hello all thunderbears and thanks for the warm welcome. I miss all you Cavebears. I will be back soon enough.
Hail the bear empire

Holy list of by-laws Batman!

There was less verbage when I bought my first house. All joking aside, I like your approach and hope you find worthy Thunderbears to maul the CoC universe.

Hail to the Bears of the Thunder persuasion! We are growing quickly. Happy to see Bears from other clans, standing side by side with us to welcome new recruits, and acclimate them to the Bear way of life!

Here are the donation stats for Monday 29th April

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photographydude	486
mike$	481
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victor	320
Four	307
evga	303
miguel	283
jorgbear	263
pacebreaker	255
chris	219
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mags	135
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Storm-Tamers, Wind-Chasers, Riders of Thunder, Masters of Lightning; we follow in the very footsteps of Thor!

ALL HAIL THUNDERBEARS!!

May Thor's hammer fill us with its blinding fire that we may burn our enemies to ash, leaving only destruction in our wake!

Oh... and goblins. There are always goblins in our wake too. The dratted things are always running off....

But mostly its just the destruction...

Ahem... where was I?

O yes... HAIL THOR!! And HAIL THUNDERBEARS; his strong right arm!

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Originally Posted by PhotographyDude

Storm-Tamers, Wind-Chasers, Riders of Thunder, Masters of Lightning; we follow in the very footsteps of Thor!

ALL HAIL THUNDERBEARS!!

May Thor's hammer fill us with its blinding fire that we may burn our enemies to ash, leaving only destruction in our wake!

Oh... and goblins. There are always goblins in our wake too. The dratted things are always running off....

But mostly its just the destruction...

Ahem... where was I?

O yes... HAIL THOR!! And HAIL THUNDERBEARS; his strong right arm!

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HAil! Dude,

I have design an avatar for you. Hope you like it.

Skal!!

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Hail thunderbears!

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Originally Posted by Leech

HAil! Dude,

I have design an avatar for you. Hope you like it.

Skal!!

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Leech,

I am honored. Thank you for your fine craftsmanship! Thor bless all that your hand pillages!

I shall wear it with pride!

SKAL!

hail! May the empire grow and continue to be the best clans to join.

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Originally Posted by hb808

Holy list of by-laws Batman!

There was less verbage when I bought my first house. All joking aside, I like your approach and hope you find worthy Thunderbears to maul the CoC universe.

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People are much more complicated than house purchases, and thank Thor for that! For it would be a boring world otherwise.

:cool:

HAIL THUNDERBEARS and well met!

I have returned from my long journey to visit our distant brothers and sisters of the Ice. Brrrr! I had to wear TWO goblin skin loincloths to keep from freezing!

Thanks to the mighty PaceBreaker for allowing me entrance once again into our fair (and much warmer) hall upon my return!

I look forward to greeting you all properly tomorrow!

HAIL BROTHERS AND SISTERS! HAIL THUNDERBEARS, MASTERS OF THE LIGHTNING!

Our clan is now shaping up barbarically.

Can you hear our thunder?
It shatters the land below
Rolling clouds of danger
Beneath our swords we sow
The seeds of your destruction
Thick the blood it flows
Like a line of your skulls
Neatly stacked in rows
Like an eternal stormcloud
It forever grows.

Hail,
Hail Thunderbears and the mighty Bear Empire!

Ironhead

HAIL THUNDERBEARS and your charged lightening!

I am in favor of the imperial empire, as it has been fun to grow, meet new people, and help new players acclimate to the bear way of life and the game. My only concern is the vaccume that will be created by expanding too fast. Icebears was re claimed, and very quickly after Skybears, and Thunderbears was created. I worry about the state of Riverbears, as many elders and chatty players left to help out the new empire clans. So I think expansion should not be automatic but voted on. I think expansions should be voted on in clans and then in council.
Another thought, a feeder clan! One central clan that all recruits join or are sent to. Then they are screened, acclimated to the Bear way of life. They spend a set amount of time in the feeder clan, and by their behavior they are sent to the clan most appropriate for them. This would free up elders in other clans from screening and rule reminding, giving them a more enjoyable experience of playing, more advice to new members, and promoting clan spirt, thus producing happier, smarter members.

Hail Bears!

Hi Guys,
Manu and !Mighty Thor! will be in hibernation between 18th May and 16 June, you can kick them out if needed to create room for new recruits

Thanks
Manu, !Mighty Thor!

The Cavebears have declined to join the Imperial Empire, as is their free and respected decision. All ex-Cavebears who wish to move back to Cavebears may feely do so with only our goodwishes and enduring friendship.

BY THE GODS!

I look at the chat in Thunderbear. NO DONATION REQUESTS OUTSTANDING! Requests being filled quickly!

I see friendly, polite helpful conversation, sometimes weird conversation, yes, but that's when me and Photo are online.

I see pie being thrown around. yes, yes, all good.

I see people going Moo! and !!!6!!!. Its good to have these traditions which reflect our pride, heritage and history.

Then I look at the donation counts, apart from one sleeper everyone is over 40, and only one person is under 50.

BY THE GODS!

What a great clan we have forged in such a short time!

HAIL!

HAIL THE MIGHTY THUNDERBEARS!



Historical note: We had a guy called Animal Farm in the Icebears clan. He got kicked, but before he did he spammed the chat with "Moo!" Every since then we have used the "Moo!" to signal the end of clan business in our clans.

The use of the !!!6!!! owes its origins to a member called Corugi, who is forever infamous for once seizing control of the Icebear clan and fighting a bloody rebellion against us. The !!!6!!! was one of his catch phrases. We now use it to signal the beginning of clan business as a way of mocking him and remembering those heroes of the Imperial Bear Empire who fought successfully to regain control of Icebears.

Good News!

The Icebears and Riverbears have formerly declared to join the Imperial Empire!

HAIL! HAIL THE MIGHTY ICEBEARS! HAIL THE MIGHTY RIVERBEARS!

IN THE NAME OF THOR!

HAIL!

HAIL THE IMPERIAL BEAR EMPIRE!

HAIL!

I hereby declare one week of rejoicing and pant-less behaviour to celebrate this auspicious occasion!

HAIL THE MIGHTY IMPERIAL BEAR EMPIRE! (happy mike$?)

I would like to say that though this is a pantless celebration, there is no need to make it a CLOTHless celebration.

Please check out my fine line of GobSkin loincloths here.

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Originally Posted by PhotographyDude

HAIL THE MIGHTY IMPERIAL BEAR EMPIRE! (happy mike$?)

I would like to say that though this is a pantless celebration, there is no need to make it a CLOTHless celebration.

Please check out my fine line of GobSkin loincloths here.

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Almost happy photo. The "HAIL THE MIGHTY IMPERIAL BEAR EMPIRE!" part should have been done in BOLD. (Its hard to find good hired help around here).

And using a bigger sized font always helps.

....and golly, the use of colour is not to be sneezed at either, and considering purple is traditionally associated with some Empires, its use would be suitable in our case.

But you are obviously a curious young person, I shall reward your curiosity with another secret: italics.

Now feel free to go forth and experiment with your new found knowledge!

and "HAIL THE MIGHTY IMPERIAL BEAR EMPIRE!"

sigh.......

Why so sad photo :-(

Not a sigh of sadness, but rather one of exasperated resignation. Mike$ is just so particular about his HAILing parties.

(Whispers: he's actually a bit OCD about it if you ask me...)

And yet! For the good of the Imperial Bear Empire, I shall suffer through these minor fits of compulsive hailing behavior!

ALL HAIL THE MIGHT OF THE IMPERIAL BEAR EMPIRE!
MAY IT EXPAND FOREVER UNTO THE DOMINATION OF THE WORLD!!!

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Originally Posted by Benks

Hello all thunderbears and thanks for the warm welcome. I miss all you Cavebears. I will be back soon enough.
Hail the bear empire

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Sorry wasn't able to say goodbye, but just so you know your welcome to come back to the cave anytime. See ya soon :D

To help clear up any confusion about the way our Imperial Empire works, ask any questions you like. Here are some sample questions.

Why have the Imperial Empire? Why have a group of clans acting together and cooperating?

We have a group of clans so that people can find the right fit for their playing style, yet all clans share the same basic rules about behaviour and responsibilites. That means people can find the same great playing environment, friendly, helpful funny people who donate a lot, in all of our clans.

What is this about clans "reinforcing each other"?

Sometimes a bear clan will struggle to recruit, at other times another bear clan will be nearly full. Over time we have learned that nearly full clans are much more likely to gain new recruits than clans that are only partially full. It appears that people like the idea of "safety in numbers" and so will naturally choose a clan of say 45 to join rather than a clan that has 35.

What seems to happen then is that one bear clan gets filled to bursting with new members while another bear clan still struggles to recruit.

To overcome this we expect our Bear clans to help each other out, by sending members from a nearly full clan to a clan that is lacking in numbers. This means our numbers become more evenly spread. It also provides an opportunity for different clan members to create new friendships. It helps keeps us unified.

Most of the time we rely upon volunteers to help us in this task, but sometimes it may be necessary for members to move when asked by their leader. many of us have worked hard to build our clans up to where they are today, so we expect members to contribute to the Empire they have joined by moving when and where they are asked to go.

Its simple. if you join one of our bear clans you get a great many benefits that many people have worked hard and long to create. In return we ask that you help us in return by contributing to the success of our Empire.

Whoah Dude! You mean I have to move to another clan if a leader asks me to?

Yes. But it will only be to another bear clan like the one you are already in. We ask that you move there for at least one week, and no longer than two. After that you may return back to your original clan if you wish.

Okay, that's not so bad, but what's this about making more clans?

As an Imperial Empire we keep expanding. So about once a month or so we create a new clan. We want to give people an opportunity to join our organisation and enjoy the benefits of belonging within our clan system. When all of our clans are nearly full we make a new clan. We call this "swarming". The new clan is always called after a natural feature with "bear" added at the end.

It works very much like clan reinforcement. When we decide to make a new clan we ask each Bear clan to contribute five members, including some experienced elders. That means the new clan gets off to a good start, has lively and active members and good elders. It means the "blood" of our clans mingle. with members able to get to know each other, share some laughs, and all know that we are all still playing by the same rules we have in all of our clan.

Here is an example:

We have four clans, each with 45 members. We decide to make a new bear clan. So each clan contributes five members to the new clan.

So the new clan instantly starts off wit 20 members. The new clan then begins its own recruitment drive with its own recruitment thread.

In the meantime the four old clans are left with 40 members each. They still recruit members until they fill back up to 45.

Over the next two weeks the following happens.

The new clan slowly rises to 30 members, with new members being recruited from outside the Empire. The old clans continue to passively recruit and start to fill back up to 45 members.

What do you mean? Passively recruit?

Remember, the old clans are still very attractive to CoC playerss wanting to join a clan. The old clans will be still full of relatively high level members who donate a lot. A lot of players see this and want to join. The old clans dont even have to actively recruit. They can sit there on "invite only" and still have a steady trickle of players wanting to join. That is passive recruitment.

The new clan however has to be more active in its recruiting. Although it may have twenty active high donating members, it will not be seen as so attractive to the outside public. They may have to be frequently recruiting using the "opengate/shutgate" method, where the clan is open invitation for periods of time.

Two weeks is up. Now what happens?

Well, at this time the Empire leader, (an elected person who we call the Big Moo) takes stock of the situation. It may be necessary to send a second group of members across to the new clan to replace those who now wish to return back to their original clan. Again, as the case may be, each clan is asked to contribute a number of members to the new clan.

Since no clan should exceed 45 members, there should always be room for returning members. When a clan exceeds 45 members, thn it simply sends the excess to the new clan.

Over time, with gradual, weekly movements, the clan numbers will even out. Until each clan reaches the idea number of 45. And when that happens, we begin the whole process of new clan formation all over again.

Why? Why? Why?

Because we are an Imperial Empire, that why. That is what Imperial Empires do. That is why we only want members who are interested in being part of a dynamic, ever changing, ever expanding Empire. We have fair and reasonable rules. We have generous and helful members. We founded the original Bear clan on certain principles, which included helping and assisting each other. If we become insular and shut, how can we help people who want to join an awesome clan? We cant. We will not blinker ourselves. There are many great players out there who need a home. We are their home.

Well Great! But what is to stop one of your Bear clans pulling out and just going independent?

In practice? Nothing. But then we withdraw all support from them. We sever the links that once bound us. All we ask is that the clan who decides to up and leave the Imperial Empire gives all its members the opportunity to leave and join us if they so wish.

Here is a list of all the members who are eligible to vote on the Imperial council.

It goes without saying that people with an alt account can only vote once. Likewise, people with dual roles can only vote once, in accordance with their highest position.

Guardians

Karthi (Riverbears)
Rowan (Icebears)
mike$ (Thunderbears)

Leaders

Nic Cage (Icebears)
Summerstarter ( Riverbears)

(note that mike$ is currently leader of Thunderbears and Guardian of Thunderbears)

SAAs (Sergeant at Arms)

Thunderbears

Manu/Ironhead
456
Mags

Icebears

KC99

Riverbears

Gman
Gandolf

Now, if I have missed anyone let me know. Remember that a SAA is someone who has been a Bear leader in the past, and as such is implicitly trusted to be able to lead a clan again at any time. A SAA can also be someone who has made an outstanding contribution to our clan in some other area. Although they are not with us any more, or have not yet declared for us, two people who would have been included would be Leech for his artistic contributions and Tanys for her communications contribution.

Some SAAs may have to relinquish their potions if they are no longer as active as they used to be, and have no interest in our Imperial Empire' politics. Please let me know if you wish to relinquish the SAA position for any of these reasons.

Note that we still have a few members floating around in Skybears. For now I wish to consider Skybears a semi autonomous clan, neither part of the Imperial Empire yet, nor having rejected us yet. For that reason I have not included in the list any members from that clan until they have become aware of the split in the bear Empire, are in full possesion of all the facts, and can make their own independant decision as to where they want to go.

The Imperial Council

The first order of business is the election of the Big Moo. The Big Moo is overall leader of the Imperial Bear Empire.

The Big Moo may only be elected from present Guardians, Leaders and SAAs.

The term of office for the Big Moo is one month, with new elections being held at the end of every month.

The Big Moo may serve in dual roles, for example as a Clan Leader and as the Big Moo.

To stand for election as the Big Moo, members who want to stand for election must put their name forward here. In this thread. As stated previously, they must be Leaders, Guardians or SAA's in order to nominate themselves.

No one may nominate another person for the Big Moo. We want the Big Moo to be someone who is confident of leading the Empire, wants to lead the Empire, and has firm beliefs about the overall strategic objectives of the Empire. This is not a popularity contest. We have no time for coyness or people who are unsure and are being edged into the position by others who may have good intentions, but are perhaps acting out of kindness, rather than out of what is best for the Empire.

In the name of THOR! I hereby declare that nominations for the position of the Big Moo are now open.

All nominations will be placed by the end of this Friday. The elections will take place concurrently and over the weekend. By Monday the votes will be tallied and the Big Moo announced.

To vote, all Guardians, leaders and SAAs must vote in this thread.

No nominee may vote for themselves.
No proxy votes will be accepted.

All Leaders are expected to announce the elections through the in game mail box, referring all SAAs to this thread. (Type something like " Refer to pg4 of thunderbear thread re Imperial Elections" )
All Guardians are henceforth notified by IM.

Note: In future elections may be held in our official website.


Any objections, clarifications, or suggestions to any of the above should be addressed as soon as possible to me either in this thread or through IM.

Donations are extremely fast. Upon joining the Thunderbears I was welcomed by everyone in the chat.

Amazing :D

Here are the donation stats for Monday 6th May 2:00pm (NZ time)

photographydude	1192	E
meganMM9	888	E
mike$	858	L
pacebreaker	755	E
gus71v	641
bblaster223	557
bazdog	496	new
gala	459	new
Four	452	E
weiyan	404
juancarlos	389
randy	335
jake	316
spack	269
spechiinlove	244	E
jeremy	237
warlord benkas	232
pabs	220
mightythor	197
victor	192
manu	190	E
gryndeon	184	new
juanandonly	168
shautifft	158
chris	139
beto	125	new
awesomus	105
deathby piano	100
tornado13	98
daepal	96
lord biff	70
geo	70
pangaea	70	new
steven	65
aschtonkutcher	54
king	50
nikita	45	new
tdubdarel	35
markthe dark	30	new
mags	0	sleeper1
Total	11185
Mean Average	279
Median Avergae	191

There is only one person who is under 50 and who is not "new" or on "sleeper status". He is now removed for failing to meet the weekly donation target.

tdubdarel

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I would like to point out three things about this weeks donation stats

First, the total number of donations has doubled from last week. Thats an amazing improvement in such a short time!

Second, check out Photo's astonishing top donation! 1192! Thats a lot of archers who have gone in battle on behalf of our clan!

Second, have a look at these two guys! They are still on "new status" but their donations are already above 400!

Way to go Bazdog and Gala!

bazdog	496	new
gala	459	new

Here is the state of the Imperial Bear Empire on 6th May after all cliffings have been completed.

Total members

Riverbears 45

Icebears 46

Thunderbears 39

HAIL THUNDERBEARS!!! Hail the mighty Imperial Bear Empire!!


You have opened the doors of your fine hall to me, with its roaring fire and chilled mead..

In the name of THOR I pledge to be a loyal and generous bear and maintain the clan's fine heritage and reputation!!!

HAIL THOR

hello fellow bears. I would like to join your clan. My game name is harrythehat and just resigned from the riverbears to travel to your clan. Have lots of mead and some useless shiny golden trinkets. Please allow me to join .

Sure Harry, clan is open to invite now.

Cu soon

mike

HAIL THUNDERBEARS!

I come from the river to visit the Mighty (and Loud) Thunderbears.

-SummerStarter

HAIL BEARS! I'm connuh from Ice and i'm gonna come visit thunder for a while. See you guys soon

Hey guys, just applied on your own Bear Empire to join the Thunderbears (J'adore the name may I add) and just requested to join in game concurrently, can't wait to see if I've been invited into the domain of Thor! Cheers guys :)

In-game Name: Swag 2k13

P.S Don't ask, I don't know either.

HAIL THE BEAR EMPIRE!!! HAIL MIGHTY THOR!!!

Mike what are the duties of the BIG MOO can you give us an example please.

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Originally Posted by Magnifico

HAIL THE BEAR EMPIRE!!! HAIL MIGHTY THOR!!!

Mike what are the duties of the BIG MOO can you give us an example please.

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The Big Moo is like the overall leader of all the Imperial Bear Empire clans.

The Big Moo is to the Imperial Empire what a Guardian is to a clan. The Guardian looks after one clan. The Big Moo looks after a group of clans. The Big Moo looks after the Empire, protects it, guides it, consults with senior members, and makes proposals that affects its future. The Big Moo ensures that the Empire remains unified, works together as a team and ensures that the principles of the Empire are upheld.

However, it an elected position with regular elections held every month. so the Big Moo must pay very close attention to the opinions of senior clan members if he/she wishes to retain that position.

Nor does the Big Moo work alone. No. For there is an Imperial council where ideas and issues can be discussed.

The duty of the Big Moo is to lead the Imperial Bear Empire.

This includes:

Looking at individual clan numbers and deciding if a clan needs reinforcement. If it does then asking leaders of other clans to help reinforce that clan.

Looking at the numbers of Elders in each clan and recommending an increase in Elder numbers if needed.

Looking at overall clan numbers and deciding if its time for a new bear clan to be formed. If so then asking Leaders of each clan to contribute a number of members towards the formation of that new clan.

Going "Moo!" at times. Loudly.

There are other duties, making suggestions and recommendations, visiting clans, directly helping new clans, setting up recruitment threads, looking for new Guardians, building alliances with non-Bear clans, throwing lumps of wood at KC99 and kicking him in the shins, bumping Bear recruitment threads, plotting, planning, scheming, and drinking more mead than anyone else. Hic!

But most importantly is consulting with senior Bear members. That means actively discussing issues with Guardians, Leaders and SAAs, listening to them, encouraging them to talk to each other, to cooperate and to work together for the benefit of all bear clans.

Lets have a specific and current example.

Right now lets pretend the Big Moo surveys the clans. At the moment only three clans officially belong within the Imperial Bear Empire. They are:

Riverbears: members 46, elders 10, new members 4.

So Riverbears is just over capacity, but has four new members. There are sufficient elders at 22%.
So the Big Moo concludes that Riverbears is doing just dandy.

Icebears: members 48, elders 9, new members, new members 6 (not counting two returning members)

So Icebears is over capacity but since it has 6 new members and becasue we know the attrition rate on new members can be as high as 75%, this is not a concern. There is a elder to total member percentage of 19%. This is a tiny bit low. Elder numbers should ideally float somewhere between 20% to 33%.

Thunderbears: members 41, elders 7, new members 7 (not counting returning members).

So Thunderbears is under capacity. the Elder percentage is 17%, a bit low. With seven new members it is likely that Thundebears may lose some by the end of the week.

Since its mid week the Big Moo is not overly concerned. Therefore the Big Moo does nothing, but notes that Thunderbears may need reinforcement at the beginning of next week. Since elder numbers in Ice and Thunder are on the low side the Big Moo asks the Guardians and Leaders of those two clans to keep an eye out for any potential elders that meet our criteria. The Big Moo takes into account the fact that Icebears has only recently recovered from the trauma of the Civil War, and that Thunderbears is still relatively new. Therefore there simply may not not be any eligible persons for promotion to elder.

The Big Moo decides that if by the end of the week Thunderbears is under 40 members then to ask the leader of Icebears and Rivebears to contribute reinforcements. This might be just one or two members each, whatever that is required, within reason, to bring it up to around 40 members.

The Big Moo would then consult with the Guardians and see if they have any reasonable objections to this plan, and to listen to any opinions and suggestions that they might have in return.

Once the discussion is over and a plan is agreed upon the Big Moo goes MOO! (very loudly) and smashes open a barrel of mead to drink. The Big Moo is not known for sharing so the Guardians may need to resort to force in order to fill their skull cups with delicious frothy mead.

With only one day to go before nominations close, there have been no nominations for the position of the Big Moo.

This brings us to any interesting question. If there are no nominations what shall we do? Is there life with no Moo?

Also it reveals a deficiency in the system I proposed: In a situation where there are no nominations, what is to stop someone holding off to the last minute and then sneaking in their nomination just before nominations close, therefore winning by default? Would that be fair, reasonable and transparent? Obviously not.

Sigh.

Okay, so I propose the election be cancelled because of this deficiency and that for the meantime there be no Big Moo while we sort out some better arrangement.

Instead the Imperial Bear Empire will be run between the three guardians of River, Ice and Thunder. That is Karthi, Rowan and myself.

For your consideration:

The Big Moo must not be a popularity contest. How do we avoid it becoming so? How do we qualify our candidates other than insisting they must be eligible for the Imperial council?

Should we perhaps consider a completely different method and simply state that all eligible members of the Imperial Council are also candidates for the Big Moo position and are thus automatically nominated unless they state otherwise?

How do we keep this simple and effective? We dont want it to be complicated or time consuming. We want a quick and efficient method of electing one person who is responsible for guiding the Empire and who is trusted by the senior clan members to act in a reasonable and fair manner.

Lets be clear, none all of us will continue to play CoC forever. For some of us that might be weeks, for others it may be months. Perhaps a year or more. Some of us will cut back on our activity, especially as we approach the limits of free to play. Some of us will simply quit and move onto other games.

However for many of our newer members CoC is still fresh and still has many many more months of potential play, if not years, left in it. The systems we create now, if just, if fair, if robust in nature and amenable to change, to ensure the survival of our Empire, and the great, fun clan environments generated for the benfit of our members, should surely survive after the last of the orginal bear members have left.

Would it not be great to one day log back in after an absence of a year or more and still see the Bear clans flourishing, still upholding the principles of fairness and justice? Would it not be great to listen in and hear the power of their modern HAILS resonate with the distant memories of our past HAILS and know that with each passing "generation" of bear member our culture lives on a separate living thing that evolves and has an existence of its own?

Look at our clans. They are more than just one person.They are more than all the members with us today. The Imperial Bear Empire is not merely a collection of personalities. It is a collection of ideas. A way of doing things. A sense of pride. A sense of purpose. And that what makes us different. That what makes us unbeatable. We are greater than the sum of our parts. We are a culture. A consciousness that is passed through the ages. And with that we shall never die.

HAIL!

HAIL!

HAIL!

BY THE GODS!

HAIL THE IMPERIAL BEAR EMPIRE!
burp!

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Originally Posted by Cavebears

With only one day to go before nominations close, there have been no nominations for the position of the Big Moo.

This brings us to any interesting question. If there are no nominations what shall we do? Is there life with no Moo?

Also it reveals a deficiency in the system I proposed: In a situation where there are no nominations, what is to stop someone holding off to the last minute and then sneaking in their nomination just before nominations close, therefore winning by default? Would that be fair, reasonable and transparent? Obviously not.

Sigh.

Okay, so I propose the election be cancelled because of this deficiency and that for the meantime there be no Big Moo while we sort out some better arrangement.

Instead the Imperial Bear Empire will be run between the three guardians of River, Ice and Thunder. That is Karthi, Rowan and myself.

For your consideration:

The Big Moo must not be a popularity contest. How do we avoid it becoming so? How do we qualify our candidates other than insisting they must be eligible for the Imperial council?

Should we perhaps consider a completely different method and simply state that all eligible members of the Imperial Council are also candidates for the Big Moo position and are thus automatically nominated unless they state otherwise?

How do we keep this simple and effective? We dont want it to be complicated or time consuming. We want a quick and efficient method of electing one person who is responsible for guiding the Empire and who is trusted by the senior clan members to act in a reasonable and fair manner.

Lets be clear, none all of us will continue to play CoC forever. For some of us that might be weeks, for others it may be months. Perhaps a year or more. Some of us will cut back on our activity, especially as we approach the limits of free to play. Some of us will simply quit and move onto other games.

However for many of our newer members CoC is still fresh and still has many many more months of potential play, if not years, left in it. The systems we create now, if just, if fair, if robust in nature and amenable to change, to ensure the survival of our Empire, and the great, fun clan environments generated for the benfit of our members, should surely survive after the last of the orginal bear members have left.

Would it not be great to one day log back in after an absence of a year or more and still see the Bear clans flourishing, still upholding the principles of fairness and justice? Would it not be great to listen in and hear the power of their modern HAILS resonate with the distant memories of our past HAILS and know that with each passing "generation" of bear member our culture lives on a separate living thing that evolves and has an existence of its own?

Look at our clans. They are more than just one person.They are more than all the members with us today. The Imperial Bear Empire is not merely a collection of personalities. It is a collection of ideas. A way of doing things. A sense of pride. A sense of purpose. And that what makes us different. That what makes us unbeatable. We are greater than the sum of our parts. We are a culture. A consciousness that is passed through the ages. And with that we shall never die.

HAIL!

HAIL!

HAIL!

BY THE GODS!

HAIL THE IMPERIAL BEAR EMPIRE!
burp!

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Mike the concept is great but implementing it is the stickler. Putting every trusted elders and leader hat in the ring seems like a good plan an those that don't want to be nominated can decline. I don't know what is entailed in the duties of the BIG MOO. So I wouldn't be a good candidate but there are heaps of remarkable members in our clans.

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Originally Posted by Magnifico

Mike the concept is great but implementing it is the stickler. Putting every trusted elders and leader hat in the ring seems like a good plan an those that don't want to be nominated can decline. I don't know what is entailed in the duties of the BIG MOO. So I wouldn't be a good candidate but there are heaps of remarkable members in our clans.

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This copied from page four of this thread. It is a list of senior members who would be eligible to vote on the Imperial Council

Guardians

Karthi (Riverbears)
Rowan (Icebears)
mike$ (Thunderbears)

Leaders

Nic Cage (Icebears)
Summerstarter ( Riverbears)

(note that mike$ is currently leader of Thunderbears and Guardian of Thunderbears)

SAAs (Sergeant at Arms)

Thunderbears

Manu/Ironhead
456
MeganMM
Mags

Icebears

KC99

Riverbears

Gman
Gandolf


If the automatic nomination system was adopted then all of the above would be nominated to stand for election as the Big Moo, unless they stated they didn't want to.

hail the bear empire!!

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Originally Posted by Cavebears

This copied from page four of this thread. It is a list of senior members who would be eligible to vote on the Imperial Council

Guardians

Karthi (Riverbears)
Rowan (Icebears)
mike$ (Thunderbears)

Leaders

Nic Cage (Icebears)
Summerstarter ( Riverbears)

(note that mike$ is currently leader of Thunderbears and Guardian of Thunderbears)

SAAs (Sergeant at Arms)

Thunderbears

Manu/Ironhead
456
MeganMM
Mags

Icebears

KC99

Riverbears

Gman
Gandolf


If the automatic nomination system was adopted then all of the above would be nominated to stand for election as the Big Moo, unless they stated they didn't want to.

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I would like to withdraw from the nomination list as I'm just too old and tired but thanks

I am asking for permission to transfer to the RIVERBEARS please.

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Originally Posted by Magnifico

I am asking for permission to transfer to the RIVERBEARS please.

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Absolutely. You have done more than enough and for that we thank you. To honour your departure I have ordered a parade. The streets shall be covered with roses so that as you leave your path shall be covered in pristine hues of shining colour, as befits your bright personality. From the street lamps shall be hung the skulls of our many vanquished foes, to mark the destruction you have wrought upon our enemies. The gathered warriors of Thunderbears shall shoot an endless stream of flaming arrows high into the sky, to bless your leaving and illuminate your journey.

We shall shout HAIL! HAIL THE MIGHTY MAGS! and the ground shall shake at the sound of our voices.

We shall also have several crates full of eye patches available for those of us who do not manage to dodge the arrows as they descend.

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Originally Posted by Magnifico

I am asking for permission to transfer to the RIVERBEARS please.

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It was fun drinking with you here in the Land of Thunder... I'll buy you a drink at River in a week. Tell everyone I said Hi and my vacation is going great!

-Summer

Attachment 7658With a little assistance from Summers Dragon :D

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Attachment 7658With a little assistance from Summers Dragon :D

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My dragons are very young but look what they can do with expert guidance. THX SWAG FOR MAKING HIM LOOK SO GOOD!

-Summer

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Originally Posted by Magnifico

I am asking for permission to transfer to the RIVERBEARS please.

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Sure mags! See on the other side mags! Heres a barrel of mead, share them to everyone and tell them i miss RB peepz!

As a fellow member and veteran of the Icebears, i have come to check on you at last! Hail the mighty Thunderbears! I have created a new Group for the four bear clans! It is called "The Bear Empire" Thank you for your time, and may Thor be on your side in future raids!

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Originally Posted by Cavebears

Absolutely. You have done more than enough and for that we thank you. To honour your departure I have ordered a parade. The streets shall be covered with roses so that as you leave your path shall be covered in pristine hues of shining colour, as befits your bright personality. From the street lamps shall be hung the skulls of our many vanquished foes, to mark the destruction you have wrought upon our enemies. The gathered warriors of Thunderbears shall shoot an endless stream of flaming arrows high into the sky, to bless your leaving and illuminate your journey.

We shall shout HAIL! HAIL THE MIGHTY MAGS! and the ground shall shake at the sound of our voices.

We shall also have several crates full of eye patches available for those of us who do not manage to dodge the arrows as they descend.

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You are all too kind,I am honored to have been able to help in the creation of this ever expanding bear empire. May it continue to grow long after all the original bears are sitting on either side of THORS thrown. HAIL ALL BEARS IN THE BEAR EMPIRE!!!

HAIL THUNDERBEARS!

It been fun being in thunderbears, but I would like permission to move back in riverbears.


Thanks

Well, I heard tales of the bears empire when a renegade (I shall not speak his name) attempted to take that which was not his to take. Back then, I was resident of a small village, and the tales I heard, of blood, and war, and glory, made me decide to leave my home, and place my fortune in the hands of the gods. I have wandered far, with this question on my lips: where do I find the Thunderbears, how do I join, and thereby pay homage to Thor and the mighty bear empire?

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Originally Posted by Neva

Well, I heard tales of the bears empire when a renegade (I shall not speak his name) attempted to take that which was not his to take. Back then, I was resident of a small village, and the tales I heard, of blood, and war, and glory, made me decide to leave my home, and place my fortune in the hands of the gods. I have wandered far, with this question on my lips: where do I find the Thunderbears, how do I join, and thereby pay homage to Thor and the mighty bear empire?

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Hi, just apply in game and say you found us on forums :)

Look for us in the clan search and we will be happy to accept you. Be sure to reqd every information we have on the 1st page.

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Originally Posted by Neva

Well, I heard tales of the bears empire when a renegade (I shall not speak his name) attempted to take that which was not his to take. Back then, I was resident of a small village, and the tales I heard, of blood, and war, and glory, made me decide to leave my home, and place my fortune in the hands of the gods. I have wandered far, with this question on my lips: where do I find the Thunderbears, how do I join, and thereby pay homage to Thor and the mighty bear empire?

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Originally Posted by Neva

Well, I heard tales of the bears empire when a renegade (I shall not speak his name) attempted to take that which was not his to take. Back then, I was resident of a small village, and the tales I heard, of blood, and war, and glory, made me decide to leave my home, and place my fortune in the hands of the gods. I have wandered far, with this question on my lips: where do I find the Thunderbears, how do I join, and thereby pay homage to Thor and the mighty bear empire?

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Neva
Search Thunderbears in your clan search. We have the white shield with the purple lightning bolt

Until membership of our website increases, this Thunderbear thread will be used for voting on Imperial Council Issues.

As you may be aware we have cancelled the election of the Overall Bear Empire leader ( the Big Moo). In the meantime the affairs of the IBE are being run by the three Guardians. Karthi (Riverbears) Rowan (Icebears) Mike$ (Thunderbears)

On behalf of the IBE I now call the first meeting of the Imperial Council.

First order of business:

1) Decide what the first order of business should be.

I await your posts.

Okay people, i must say that the poetry thread is running a bit stale... Yes! Thats right! We have a viking poetry thread!


Go! Now! Read it, and contribute your own works of art!


Click Here

sorry for the title typo... Wont let me fix it...

Here are the donation stats for 13th may at 2.00.pm (NZ time). four hours before donation counter reset.

Note that this is a two week period. The first column is current donations, the second column is last weeks donations, and the third column is the difference between the two.

summerstarter	1582
swag2k13	1180

mike$	10		10
pacebreaker	1499	755	744
gus71v	945	641	304
bblaster223	896	557	339
bazdog	1846	496	1350
gala	822	459	363
Four	925	452	473
weiyan	424	404	20
randy	387	335	52
jake	424	316	108
spack	457	269	188
jeremy	425	237	188
warlord benkas	352	232	120
pabs	225	220	5
mightythor	445	197	248
manu	147		147
gryndeon	1764	184	1580
juanandonly	173	168	5
shautifft	279	158	121
chris	545	139	406
beto	643	125	518
awesomus	327	105	222
deathby piano	100	100	0
tornado13	98	98	0
daepal	112	96	16
lord biff	264	70	194
pangaea	830	70	760
steven	65	65	0
aschtonkutcher	54	54	0
king	50	50	0
nikita	317	45	272
markthe dark	352	30	322
mags	591	0	591
zac			55	new
harrythehat			655
kingbolt75			41	new
dzy			78
neva			73	new
carole			14	new
rooster			321
4tash			105	new
nicholaihel			74
frankth			152	new
justin			70
spoboyle			659
captainanh			104	new
jinxc			370
worrior			35	new

Now, removing all those who are "new", all those who are under 50 but who moved between our clan with permission, we are left with the following members who did not meet the donation target of 50 troops per week:

Weiyan 20
Pabs 20
Juanandonly 5
deathbypiano 0
tornado13 0
daepal 16
steven 0
aschtonkutcher 0
king 0

It is my recommendation that all of the above be kicked for failure to meet donation targets, following consultation with elders in chat. It may be that a couple of them, such as weiyan, are under the impression that if they make over 100 donations one week then they are safe for the following week. However we do not want members who have the mind set that they can be active one week and then inactive the following week.

And in other news...

A special HAIL! for those four members who reached over 1000 donations this week! BY THE GODS! Thunderbears is only three weeks old! That is truly remarkable for such a young clan!

Who are these heroic MIGHTY DONORS? Why, here they are!

Summerstarter 1582
Gryndeon 1580
Bazdog 1350
Swag2k13 1180

HAIL OUR MIGHTY DONORS!

What more fame could be added this week you might well ask? What great feats are possible under such a shine of Glory?

Well golly! Bazdog has been promoted to Elder!

Was it because of his donations you might ask? No! That counts, yes, but what is more important is the fact that Bazdog knows our rules, proved he could screen a new recruit properly, has helped and assisted others in chat, and has fully immersed himself in our barbaric Viking culture! (Through the expedient act of taking a bath in a barrel of mead. For a week, as in a whole week, he would have been quite pickled by the time he got out, however he had drunk the barrel quite dry well before that)

HAIL THE MIGHTY BAZDOG!

But wait! There is more!

The honorable Pacebreaker has begun his second week of Leadership ( he did need to be reminded that the Leadership term is now two weeks, not one week as before, but I am sure that after the hideously savage beating he received for being unaware of this fact, he will be sure to remember in future. If the brain dame is not too great. And if the Shamans can remove the anvil from his forehead)

HAIL THE MIGHTY PACEBREAKER! (and I want my anvil back once they remove it, thanks Pace).

This then is the state of the Imperial Bear Empire as of 13th May 2013

Note for the following data Guardians, Leaders and SAAs shall be counted as elders.

Riverbears

Members 46
Elders 12
Elder/Total members 26%

Icebears

Members 42
Elders 10
Elder/Total members 23%

Thunderbears

Members 42
Elders 7
Elders/Total members 16%

Total membership 130

In preparation for the first Imperial Bear Council (IBE)
Only Guardians, Leaders and SAAs may vote on the Imperial Council

Would the Guardians and Leaders of all IBE clans please confirm the following:

These are the members of the IBE eligible to vote on the Imperial Council.

A SAA (Sergeant at Arms) is an elder who has previously been a leader in any of our clans.

Riverbears

Karthi Guardian
Queen Phobe Leader
456 SAA
Ironhead SAA
Mags SAA
Gandolf SAA

Icebears

Rowan Guardian
KC99 Leader
Gman SAA
Nic Cage SAA

Thunderbears

Mike Guardian
Pacebreaker Leader
Summerstarter SAA

In the absence of any other nominations, I would like to nominate Corugi for the still vacant position of Great Moo

Hi TB Leader,
Requesting permission to move back to Riverbears

Thanks
Manu

Request granted Manu. Have a safe trip back! And thank you for helping our newly formed clan to a better one.

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Originally Posted by ironhead

Hi TB Leader,
Requesting permission to move back to Riverbears

Thanks
Manu

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There are two amendments to the IBE rules regarding inter-clan movement. These amendments have been approved by all the clan Guardians, Rowan, Karthi and Mike

1) With respect to serving to build a new clan or reinforcing an existing clan.

Members (including elders) shall be only asked to serve once.

Once a member has served for a whole week then they may not need to serve again. After they have served for one week they are guaranteed to be allowed to return to their "home" clan.

This means the IBE can only ask individual members to help build a clan once. If they dont want to move again after that, then it is their right to refuse. This means greater fairness as everyone in the clan will potentially have a turn to serve and it wont mean just the same people doing the work all the time. Of course people who are happy to volunteer time and again will be welcome to do so.

2) The maximum length of service required of members in building or reinforcing a clan is ONE WEEK, and one week only.

This gives a definite fixed term of service.

Job well done on filling out ThunderBears to capacity before the weekly culling. Hail ThunderBears!! May Thør himself guide your battle axes to swift and decisive victory, Hail, Hail !!

While i was at work today, four different Attackers stopped by my village and threw down their trophies before running home to Mommy. Thus I gained 75 trophies while occupied with real life. Then tonight I completed a raid gaining a total of 366k in loot.

Just a typical day in Thunderbears!

HAIL THÖR!

Okay my week is over here so I'm heading back to ice. HAIL BEARS!!!

THUNDERBEARS 5/19/2013 gryndeon 1494 SummerStarter 1144 spoboyle 931 Bazdog 916 Joe 800 Pangaea 711 carole 562 harrythehat 555 swag 2k13 542 chris 496 PhotographyDude 472 4tAsh 423 Lord Biff 416 Galal 397 Rahfikimahn 388 JinxC 371 neva 356 Rooster 352 PaceBreaker 345 CaptainAnh 310 nicholai hel 284 gus71v 278 Dzy 277 captian 268 BigPhilly85 234 beto 221 MarkTheDark 208 Jeremy 198 Frankth 178 bblaster223 175 jake 166 awesomus 151 weiyan 105 spack 76 randy 70 !Mighty Thor! 65 Sleeping Shautifft 58 zac 50 justin 50 nolan 21 warlord benkas 10 Sleeping Alvis 10 New

After consulting between the elders, it was decided to grant Warlord Benkas Sleeping status for this week. BUT if he want this to continue he MUST post his request here or speak to an Elder in Chat. !Mighty Thor! has a month of sleeper status but has stipulated if we need the space we can kick him, he will reapply once he is active again....

Alvis is a new transfer.... So that leaves us with Nolan. It was the decision of all the elders that Nolan should be Cliffed. And he was.... Someday we will get that pillow tossing timing right.

I would like to Congratulate Gryndeon for a fantastic week in Donations. Many of you probably do not realize this, but this is the first time since the week I joined, that I have not led the Donation List. So I know full well the dedication (ok... obsession) such a feat takes.
Gryn...from all of us who have received your archers.. THANKS!

Gryn has graciously agreed to accept the role of Elder. With your sense of humor balanced by your strong belief in honesty, you will be a valued addition as we rebuild our family.


The last order of business for Thunderbear's was the changing of the leader. After safely guiding us through a turbulent 2 weeks, PaceBreaker has passed the Leadership to SummerStarter. (Yes that is me.)

HAIL PACEBREAKER!

HAIL THUNDERBEARS!

HAIL THE BEAR FAMILY!

Finally I managed to catch up to HTH. (It is not nice to run from the Leader)

HarryTheHat has graciously agreed to accept the role of Elder. I EXPECT FANTASTIC THINGS FROM YOU HARRY!

HAIL HARRYTHEHAT!

HAIL THUNDERBEARS!

HAIL THE BEAR FAMILY!

-Summer - Leader of Thunderbears

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Originally Posted by SummerStarter

After consulting between the elders, it was decided to grant Warlord Benkas Sleeping status for this week. BUT if he want this to continue he MUST post his request here or speak to an Elder in Chat. !Mighty Thor! has a month of sleeper status but has stipulated if we need the space we can kick him, he will reapply once he is active again....

Alvis is a new transfer.... So that leaves us with Nolan. It was the decision of all the elders that Nolan should be Cliffed. And he was.... Someday we will get that pillow tossing timing right.

I would like to Congratulate Gryndeon for a fantastic week in Donations. Many of you probably do not realize this, but this is the first time since the week I joined, that I have not led the Donation List. So I know full well the dedication (ok... obsession) such a feat takes.
Gryn...from all of us who have received your archers.. THANKS!

Gryn has graciously agreed to accept the role of Elder. With your sense of humor balanced by your strong belief in honesty, you will be a valued addition as we rebuild our family.


The last order of business for Thunderbear's was the changing of the leader. After safely guiding us through a turbulent 2 weeks, PaceBreaker has passed the Leadership to SummerStarter. (Yes that is me.)

HAIL PACEBREAKER!

HAIL THUNDERBEARS!

HAIL THE BEAR FAMILY!

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Congratulation! Great warrior!

Well, it has been way to long since ive been on this mystical forum land. So i have decided to treat you all in Thunder to a parting bit of wit. But dont worry, in case you don't like the wit, i also brought mead.

so, without further ado:

There once was a Gob from Nantuckett
Who carried his gold in a bucket
When a bump in the road, lost him his load
And now he is down to a ducket!

okay, okay... Not my best work. But hey! Here's the mead!! *pours MANY skullcups

Ill see you soon Thunder!!!

Hail Thunderbears! Bb here (iPad autocorrected bblaster without my noticing it. Lame.) Just wanted to pop on here to let you all know that I won't be on much until after June 8th. I'm in the process of moving, so we shut the internet off at home (otherwise I would not get anything done). I will still get on at work, so I won't be gone gone. But, once I get settled I'll bring some mead and plenty of troops to go around.

Thanks bears,

bb

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Originally Posted by Blaster

Hail Thunderbears! Bb here (iPad autocorrected bblaster without my noticing it. Lame.) Just wanted to pop on here to let you all know that I won't be on much until after June 8th. I'm in the process of moving, so we shut the internet off at home (otherwise I would not get anything done). I will still get on at work, so I won't be gone gone. But, once I get settled I'll bring some mead and plenty of troops to go around.

Thanks bears,

bb

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Thx for letting us know. You have sleeper status until June 8th

This thread is done.

See The Bear Family thread.
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I am thrilled to be a member of the Thunderbear Clan, and I aspire to further the cause of the Bear Empire!