Co-Leaders, Elder Rank Titles - Heavy Suggestion Here...

First, thank you SuperCell for taking your time to consider my ideas.

IF the rank title system was similar to what I am suggesting it to be, I would have little to ZERO conflict within the clan that could not be handled with golden kid gloves.

I don't know why, but many people don't feel appreciated unless they are made Co-Leader. Even when they're told regularly that they are a true clan asset. If it wasn't many people, I wouldn't care enough to post this, because to me, the Elder/CoLeader titles are meaningless. Anyway, for many theyre not meaningless and they seem to feel that it's the only true way for a leader to show their full blown approval of a member's skills and loyalty. It's only ego and pride that causes this riff, yet it sure seems to be about 95% of the members. One's who have long since gone and new ones who at first claim it doesn't matter to them. Apparently, it does.

I now understand after recently losing three really cool people, good players who donated, were very active, helpful, laid back, fun to hang with people who we could count on getting stars in wars, that always played both attacks. We're a mostly adult clan. W/ some Adults acting like chirrens, lol. But I've had this issue as General Manager of a couple places in real life situations, by those who wanted to have their birthday cakes on their birthday. Even at middle ages of their lives. I also never cared about that for myself since i was eight. No, i'm not Jehovah witness or Mormon. Things like that just don't matter to me. I see those things DO matter for most people tho and telling them that they're appreciated just isn't enough. I know this, because i do that.

I was told these words after i asked someone why he was leaving the clan, "because people need to feel special" and then I read, 'jp has left the clan'. which sucked, because we liked him and benefited from him. a couple hours later, 'Chris has left the clan'. same thing... star getting, donating good troops & being active players, now gone, hard to replace and now need replacing.

If you cannot do what I am proposing, I am probably about to cause a mass exodus by demoting everyone down to Member and make only Two Co-Leaders and then have it so elder goes by activity/donations within each season. If i leave it as is, someone brings up that they've done quite enough to be co-leader by now. and ill say that there are just no more co-leaders because there's too many, and they will leave. And chances are they're rightly deserving the CO status. Yet, if i made them a CO, then others would be jealous. and then someone would say there are too many Co-leaders. you cant stop the madness. That's why i think this is a good idea.

So as a Clan Leader, I propose this on next coming update PLEASE oh smart people at SuperCell :D. It would solve a lot of issues and keep the drama out of the clan chat atmosphere and most likely keep members from leaving, & keep from causing another replacement era in our clan.

>-) LIMIT the Co-Leader position to TWO Players ONLY:

That will end all players from a) asking for it (and feeling less than adequate/embarrassed when told no in a nice way) and b) hearing members say that there are too many co-leaders, even tho the ones who say there are too many do NOT want to give up their own status or they WANT to be CO!, ♥♥♥♥. Which I am close to taking everyone down to member but two. Yet, if i do, i expect a mass exodus and a wrecked clan. If that happens, ill probably just start over with new clan name and have it that way from beginning. Id hate to do that since for the last 4 months our clan has been getting more and more tight, with very little drama. Unless of course we are losing a war, lol. Then i simply do a little pruning afterwards.

>-) Add New Rank Status Options

Have additional titles (besides Elder) to be earned, but WITHOUT the ability to KICK anyone.
Something like:

- MVP (Most Valuable Player)
- Most Loyal Player
- War Hero
- Donation King/Queen
- Player of the Week

Just something that shows appreciation without giving power to kick.

THIS SHOULD APPEASE the CLAN FRIENDS WHILE NOT MAKING ANY MORE TROUBLE THAN NEEDED.

Is this just over the top?
Am I the only one?

;) Couple Other Ideas:
- Make it so when i'm typing in the Clan Description or Clan Mail.... it DOESN'T time out. Very Frustrating :cool:
- Remove the ability for anyone other than Co or Leader to kick members.

*** BTW: I was not the founder of my clan. I was appointed after a couple months by the much consensus of the clan and the founder also agreed. SO, i somehow earned it. and its more of a responsibility than i assumed. But i like it, because i can usually quell the dissent, mutiny and problem people from making everyone uptight.

It's just the subject of Rank Status, that i'm having the most unsolved problems and my suggestion seems like a good answer.

Thanks for your attention and possible consideration SuperCell.

PS: I love the new update!
Thank you for giving more space to the Clan Description, easy to find clan and all the other cool features.
Ok, Where's my Halloween headstone ? :cool:

I read the first paragraph and thought....get a better clan...my clan has been together for over a yr and everyone is co, and we even share leader at times....you want us too have only to co's (all i read too) because you have a bunch of naughty spoilt kids in your clan?

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and if you spent more time on your clan and not writing a novel in here i dont think you would have a problem ;)

Nice ideas!!
Being a Leader of a clan i know how hard it is to keep new players and old players at elder rank, i cant make everyone co-leader. There must be some new ranks to keep everyone happy.

I like the idea of more ranks within a clan to show appreciation.

Right now in our clan we just have one Co.Leader (real life friend) with elder based on donations on a seasonal basis. I know what you mean, even making one extra co will make the other players feel under-appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Naz

I read the first paragraph and thought....get a better clan...my clan has been together for over a yr and everyone is co, and we even share leader at times....you want us too have only to co's (all i read too) because you have a bunch of naughty spoilt kids in your clan?

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and if you spent more time on your clan and not writing a novel in here i dont think you would have a problem ;)

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Kind of an overly hostile response for no reason...

On topic: I'm not adverse to there being more options for titles. Since none of them really mean anything or give any desired privileges. The ability to kick people isn't overly exciting. People could stylize their clans a little more and give them a personal touch.

There are pros and cons of co-leader/elder. As OP says, and it happens in real life.
To me, the title doesn't matter. I join current clan as a normal member. I donate a lot, top 3 within 1st season, and always maintain top 5 (2k-3k+ per season). I request very little. 200-500 only.
My progress in the clan is top 5. Experience (not accurate) also top 5 in the clan.

The leader promote me to Elder by 2nd season. 3rd/4th become Co. Must faster than other older members. Not sure if they complain, but I keep up with my stats above.

I wouldn't mind demote to Elder/Member. Just playing the game.

I'm confused why you didn't give active people that donated the meaningless title. In a huge multiplayer game full of many clans, people have options. Maybe it would be easier to establish tenure, donation amounts, and war wins to give meaning to the titles.

The only thing I don't agree with is only two COs for the reasons of needing more to run things depending on clan size and player availability, also clan mails needed in wars more frequently at times. However, definitely need more ranks. Also maybe make ranks customizable like in some other games, being able to add or take away privelages for each ran, example set Elders to be able to kick,clan mail, edit info etc. (remember, you can choose not to have some of those, just an example!) but overall, just new ranks with NO capabilities would be fantastic to aknowledge players who need validation. I'm very familiar with dealing with this issue and a title means A Lot to some people.

my suggestion :
please remove co-leader ability to grant co-leader

limiting co-leader number sound good idea... love it!

This is a bad idea for international clans. In a clan with people living in many different time zones you may very well need more than 2 co leaders. 3 people managing 50 members can be incredibly difficult.

I do agree that more ranks would be better, and many of your points are very true. Extra ranks would quell some bickering for sure. But until then we have to deal with what we have.

My suggestion would be to make elder much harder to achieve, have it be a donation requirement of 800-1000 troops. That way when it is earned it is actually EARNED. If it is given away to easily then people who are actually "clan elders" will feel less appreciated.

Its up to you to make your clan a team, you and your co leaders. If someone leaves because they don't like it, then move on. There are millions of clash players.