Petition- Heros and UPGRADES!

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October 20th, 2014
Flat4

Petition- Heros and UPGRADES! REMOVE BUILDER REQUIREMENT!

Current Hero Upgrade's
-Requires Builder
-unusable while upgrading
-cannot use for clan wars
-can be gemmed

UPDATED HERO UPGRADES
-No Builder Required
-Heros are upgraded in a building strictly for heros and can be upgraded simultaneously
-Heros can be used used while upgrading(defending base,clan wars, and regular attacks)
-Heros still use dark elixer to be upgraded
-Heros still take the same amount of time to upgrade
-Heros can still be gemmed
**SAID BUILDING WILL BECOME AVAILABLE AT TOWN HALL 7. LEVEL 2 AT TOWN HALL 8, LEVEL 3 AT TOWN HALL 9, AND LEVEL 4 AT TH 10. UPGRADING THE BUILDING WILL REQUIRE A BUILDER. AND SHALL BE UPGRADED WITH DARK ELIXIR**

SUPERCELL WILL STILL MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. PEOPLE WILL STILL BUY AND USE THE SAME AMOUNT OF GEMS THEY USED BEFORE UPGRADING HEROS. THIS IS A MAJOR CHANGE THAT OPENS THE DOOR FOR SO MUCH MORE OPPORTUNITY AS A PLAYER.

Removing the builders from Hero upgrades would be such a beneficial change for everyone. It takes 227.5 days Per Hero to go to max level. Adding them to the Lab or Making another building to upgrade heros seems more logical. There is no graphical change in the heros. they are nothing more than a troop in a sense. troops are upgraded with elixer and require no builder. you can also use them while they are upgrading. Heros are unable to be used while being hammerd on by a builder. which causes conflict with clan wars and farming. from level 15 all the way to 40 it takes 7 days per upgrade. removing the builder would be beneficial to everyone. and would greatly improve the aspect of upgrading heros.. they would be able to be constantly used with little down time. and would overall be better in general.
October 20th, 2014
THEBIGCLASH3R

Yeah I always thought heroes shouldn't need a builder to be upgraded. They should upgrade with out a builder just like troops.
October 20th, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by THEBIGCLASH3R

Yeah I always thought heroes shouldn't need a builder to be upgraded. They should upgrade with out a builder just like troops.

yeah it has never really made much sense to me as to why they require a builder. removing the builder would open up so much more opportunity and im sure alot more people would level them and pay more attention to them.. getting into th8 and up requires alot of build time. and the heros are really what drag those out alot longer than they should be
October 20th, 2014
jvandenburg

It would be HUGE if we could at least still use our Hero's in war while they are upgrading. We have a lot of TH9's and 10's in our clan and being without a Hero for a week for one upgrade hurts big time! Pretty Please guys... me love you long time!!
October 20th, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by jvandenburg

It would be HUGE if we could at least still use our Hero's in war while they are upgrading. We have a lot of TH9's and 10's in our clan and being without a Hero for a week for one upgrade hurts big time! Pretty Please guys... me love you long time!!

this is true. hero's are an important aspect of higher th levels. seems they have more down time than actually being used. sacrificing upgrades on them due to builder usage and being down a week is pretty ridiculous. specially having 2 of them that need upgraded.
October 20th, 2014
GODOFDEATH

I agree but just make a poll its easier
October 20th, 2014
RockTheRock

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Originally Posted by Flat4

Removing the builders from Hero upgrades would be such a beneficial change for everyone. It takes 227.5 days Per Hero to go to max level. Adding them to the Lab or Making another building to upgrade heros seems more logical. There is no graphical change in the heros. they are nothing more than a troop in a sense. troops are upgraded with elixer and require no builder. you can also use them while they are upgrading. Heros are unable to be used while being hammerd on by a builder. which causes conflict with clan wars and farming. from level 15 all the way to 40 it takes 7 days per upgrade. removing the builder would be beneficial to everyone. and would greatly improve the aspect of upgrading heros.. they would be able to be constantly used with little down time. and would overall be better in general.

Actually, there are slight graphical changes between levels. And i see what your saying, but the heroes are said to be not a normal troop. The heroes take a builder because it is not used in the barracks.
October 21st, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by RockTheRock

Actually, there are slight graphical changes between levels. And i see what your saying, but the heroes are said to be not a normal troop. The heroes take a builder because it is not used in the barracks.

I understand that. But if you really think about it. Why should they take a builder. They are not a building. They are not a resource item. They are apart of your army. The benefits of removing the builder requirement would make a lot of positive changes. That would make heros accessible for clan wars. Would allow you to focus of upgrading your base without sacrificing builders for AQ and BK. would allow you to constantly work on your base. You already have to use builders for walls. Which I understand. I believe that the good out weights the bad when it comes to completly removing the builder requirement for heros. It's not so bad in the lower levels. But 7 days per level from level 15-40 is a bit insane.
October 21st, 2014
Alangeorge80

I am not to concerned about having to give up a builder for the upgrade, but let us use the heroes during the upgrade
October 21st, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by Alangeorge80

I am not to concerned about having to give up a builder for the upgrade, but let us use the heroes during the upgrade

That wouldn't work. That would be like using your wizard towers while they upgrade. Hence why the whole builder aspect just needs to go away
October 21st, 2014
necro17000

I like it, but i dont think it will happen

i like the idea..but allowing the heroes upgrade without using builder is directly reducing the incentive to use gem. If you didnt realise already, the upgrade time for everything gets so much longer at higher level. Why?? to push you to buy builders or even gem the buildings to completion.
I think they can consider adding 6th builder for maybe th9 or 10. Increase revenue and reduce building time is win win...
October 21st, 2014
Flat4

You're right. But People are still gonna buy gems reguardless of heros requiring a builder or not. Even though I'm sure supercell won't change anything about it or even give the idea the time of day. Seems it's all about the money to game dev's. Anything to make that extra dollar.
October 21st, 2014
THEBIGCLASH3R

I think this idea should happen.:D
October 21st, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by THEBIGCLASH3R

I think this idea should happen.:D

Me too! Hopefully this post will get enough attention and they will see it
October 21st, 2014
Flat4

Bump!! Keep this post going guys!
October 22nd, 2014
BlackJesus52

This would be nice, a lot of the time I don't upgrade my heroes because of war or just the fact that my base is weaker without heroes. If we could get them in the upgrade factory that would be great or add another building
October 22nd, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by BlackJesus52

This would be nice, a lot of the time I don't upgrade my heroes because of war or just the fact that my base is weaker without heroes. If we could get them in the upgrade factory that would be great or add another building

That's exactly what I was thinking. Add some other option of upgrading them.
October 25th, 2014
Flat4

To the top!!! Remove them builders!
October 25th, 2014
Bulldog241

Wait, so you want to tie up the research lab with hero upgrades? No way, I'd rather them stay as is.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to be able to use my hero's while they upgrade. But this would just make the problem WORSE, not better. Imagine adding 450 days to your research lab times. That's an extra 1 1/2 YEARS to max TH10. No thanks.
October 25th, 2014
dominion

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Originally Posted by Flat4

You're right. But People are still gonna buy gems reguardless of heros requiring a builder or not. Even though I'm sure supercell won't change anything about it or even give the idea the time of day. Seems it's all about the money to game dev's. Anything to make that extra dollar.

Currently you use gems to buy the DE, and then gem the time. This is halving the cost, and for some who only gem the time would completely get rid of sales.

I don't think this is a good idea. Heros are a very big part of the game, and even more so at higher levels so why make is easier and quicker to upgrade them? They have already been reduced I don't see the need for more.
October 25th, 2014
LamChops

I agree about this. This would be a game changer
October 25th, 2014
xXHaasXx

I really like this idea. SC do this pls
October 26th, 2014
Flat4

Adding them to the lab wouldn't be so bad if you were th10 with nothing else to upgrade but heros. But adding another building similar to the lab. That allows you to upgrade your heros. You still have to use dark elixer. You still have to wait the same amount of time. You just don't use a builder. SC would still make the same amount of money. And we would be able to use out heros while upgrading aswell
October 26th, 2014
Flat4

Original post updated with new information!

Quote:

Originally Posted by flat4

current hero upgrade's
-requires builder
-unusable while upgrading
-cannot use for clan wars
-can be gemmed

updated hero upgrades
-no builder required
-heros are upgraded in a building strictly for heros and can be upgraded simultaneously
-heros can be used used while upgrading(defending base,clan wars, and regular attacks)
-heros still use dark elixer to be upgraded
-heros still take the same amount of time to upgrade
-heros can still be gemmed
**said building will become available at town hall 7. Level 2 at town hall 8, level 3 at town hall 9, and level 4 at th 10. Upgrading the building will require a builder. And shall be upgraded with dark elixir**

supercell will still make the same amount of money. People will still buy and use the same amount of gems they used before upgrading heros. This is a major change that opens the door for so much more opportunity as a player.

removing the builders from hero upgrades would be such a beneficial change for everyone. It takes 227.5 days per hero to go to max level. Adding them to the lab or making another building to upgrade heros seems more logical. There is no graphical change in the heros. They are nothing more than a troop in a sense. Troops are upgraded with elixer and require no builder. You can also use them while they are upgrading. Heros are unable to be used while being hammerd on by a builder. Which causes conflict with clan wars and farming. From level 15 all the way to 40 it takes 7 days per upgrade. Removing the builder would be beneficial to everyone. And would greatly improve the aspect of upgrading heros.. They would be able to be constantly used with little down time. And would overall be better in general.

original post updated with new information!
October 26th, 2014
dominion

You're forgetting the main reason why people gem upgrade time on their heros is so they can be used in attacks. Would still damage the number of people who gem it.

That said I do like this updated version much more then the original... although I still don't see it happening.
October 26th, 2014
XProGamerX

Yes yes yes yes

Yes, I think at least 50% of the clash community agrees with this, therefore there is no reason SC should be holding back.
Gemmers will still gem to get their heroes to a higher level faster. So SC will still profit.
October 26th, 2014
choczombie

Hero downtime makes upgrading them virtually impossible for war clans. Yes we need a new way to upgrade them. A new building is a good solution, could be called "armourer".
October 26th, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by dominion

You're forgetting the main reason why people gem upgrade time on their heros is so they can be used in attacks. Would still damage the number of people who gem it.

That said I do like this updated version much more then the original... although I still don't see it happening.

Gemmers will still gem reguardless. SC will still make money. And the player community will be a lot happier with this change.
October 26th, 2014
dominion

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Originally Posted by Flat4

Gemmers will still gem reguardless. SC will still make money. And the player community will be a lot happier with this change.

That is assuming there is only one type of gemmer: there isn't. Some people will only buy a tiny amount of gems to speed up the build time (e.g. a day left on a hero) so they can use them in war. Again, I don't do this, but I know people who do. I doubt SuperCell will take their profit away.

People use Gems for different reasons.

Not trying to be negitive just honest. The idea in the community that the only people who use Gems are champs who push, the few who max their base with massive amounts of money or Town hall rush is wrong.
October 26th, 2014
SCHATTIE

I agree

I have to agree with your post. I also have a suggestion that your village cannot be attacked by Multilayers when your Clan is at war.
October 27th, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by dominion

That is assuming there is only one type of gemmer: there isn't. Some people will only buy a tiny amount of gems to speed up the build time (e.g. a day left on a hero) so they can use them in war. Again, I don't do this, but I know people who do. I doubt SuperCell will take their profit away.

People use Gems for different reasons.

Not trying to be negitive just honest. The idea in the community that the only people who use Gems are champs who push, the few who max their base with massive amounts of money or Town hall rush is wrong.

I see your point. But think about it. Heros arnt the only thing being gemmed. If they do lose any profit. I'm sure it wouldn't be much. Weighing out the pros and cons. I believe the good out weights the bad here. And supercell should take this into consideration
October 27th, 2014
ClashOn4Life

Possibly a use in lab? Upgrade those and a troop while upgrading in lab?
October 27th, 2014
Rickthebear

Notifications for heros!

Can we please get notifications for our Barb King and Archer Queen when they are ready for battle.

BTW thanks a bunch for the spell notifications! I love the Halloween decor and the last update in general.
October 27th, 2014
bradleytjohnson1

I agree I hate not having my hero for clan wars.
October 27th, 2014
Flat4

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Originally Posted by bradleytjohnson1

I agree I hate not having my hero for clan wars.

It is a bit of a pain for a lot of people. I hope to see this changed soon!
October 27th, 2014
xXMAXBARBXx

I agree with you, the hero should not have to be upgraded with a builder.