[What ?] Anyone know who is maddendvinik ? ._.

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April 26th, 2013
Junliang

[What ?] Anyone know who is maddendvinik ? ._.

Disclaimer: This thread is not meant to flame maddendvinik. I do not watch this maddendvinik's channel, nor is this thread intended to advertise for him. But I would be lying if I say I'm not slightly irritated.

So I was browsing through the TH8 Base design thread as usual when I saw childish's post here: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...489#post395489

Link to the video in topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=abHsaLHNoho
And no I didn't embed it as my purpose wasn't to increase viewership for him.

I went to check it out and true enough.

This was maddendvinik's base before that vid
http://i42.tinypic.com/4j429u.jpg

And in that video, this is his base.
http://i44.tinypic.com/33nx7cp.jpg

Here is Childish's base for reference
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps32bf82d8.png

I watch the video 3 times, yet still didn't hear any credits or shout out to childish in the entire video.

He even has the cheek to type this in the video description: "In this episode ill raid, discuss my base, and show some replays of the attacks."

I don't mean to diss him, but for a person of his calibre(for the lack of a better word), Lv72(meaning he been playing for atleast 4 months), 10,000 subscribers, 127 videos, he should certainly know better.

From many persepctive, he seems to be saying that he re-designed his base into a hybrid base, and is claiming credits for the base design.
As a fellow base designer, this issue certainly plucked a nerve somewhere.

If he is just some tom ♥♥♥♥ or harry copying childish's base for his own usage fine.
But he is broadcasting it and claiming credits as his base.

What the bunny ?

I know this is me being nosy since its not even my base, but what the heck ?

And note that the effectiveness or how strong childish's base is NOT the issue here. So don't derail the thread thanks.
April 26th, 2013
hb808

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junliang

Disclaimer: This thread is not meant to flame maddendvinik.

I don't mean to diss him, but for a person of his calibre(for the lack of a better word), Lv72(meaning he been playing for atleast 4 months), 10,000 subscribers, 127 videos, he should certainly know better.

...Which is exactly what it is doing. Flaming him.

It is his base and he doesn't have to give "shouts out to anybody"

Who cares what his subscription level is?

You can hit lvl 72 in less than 4 months.
April 26th, 2013
Junliang

Quote:

Originally Posted by hb808

...Which is exactly what it is doing. Flaming him.

It is his base and he doesn't have to give "shouts out to anybody"

Who cares what his subscription level is?

You can hit lvl 72 in less than 4 months.

Okay, I'm flaming him, sue me.

He doesn't have to, but its a common practise and a sign of acknowledgement/basic courtesy(add your own synonyms here)

I'm using that as a basis to show his "calibre"(Again, for the lack of a better word)

You can, but i'm referring to in general.
E: Then again, the level roll back bug might have made that value inaccurate.
April 26th, 2013
TheLastClan

i would love to have him flamed and dissed lol, i don't like the guy, he has blocked me from commenting stuff on his videos for no reason and stuff like that
April 26th, 2013
hb808

I'm going to coin a term that has never been seen before in CoC forums: Base sampling

It is when you take somebody's base, sample it, and make it your own without giving due credit.

Kinda like McHammer, Vanilla Ice, and a host of other one-hit wonders.

Besides...my TH8 base kicks his in the shorts. I would exploit his spread out AD and my minions would poop all over it. But that's just me.
April 26th, 2013
zachUVA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junliang

Disclaimer: This thread is not meant to flame maddendvinik. I do not watch this maddendvinik's channel, nor is this thread intended to advertise for him. But I would be lying if I say I'm not slightly irritated.

I don't mean to diss him, but for a person of his calibre(for the lack of a better word), Lv72(meaning he been playing for atleast 4 months), 10,000 subscribers, 127 videos, he should certainly know better.

As a fellow base designer, this issue certainly plucked a nerve somewhere.

I know this is me being nosy since its not even my base, but what the heck ?

And note that the effectiveness or how strong childish's base is NOT the issue here. So don't derail the thread thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junliang

Okay, I'm flaming him, sue me.

I'm using that as a basis to show his "calibre"(Again, for the lack of a better word)

Those statements don't seem to be a good sign.

In before thread close.
April 26th, 2013
ivanmostdope

Well that's very un-lady like of him .

(what an amazing contradiction^)
April 26th, 2013
DragonxXx

I have seen that layout numerous times I think it's very wrong of him to take credit of his apparent layout,which is obviously untrue I'm not a fan of coping people's layout you lose that pride element he also has obviously been spending gems on all that money he is receiving from YouTube.
April 26th, 2013
Thin2223u

This isn't intellectual property that you can patent or copyright. Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery right? Who cares if people copy bases? We've all done it at some point.
April 26th, 2013
AngrehBard

Well when you put your base design on the forums, its out to copy.

But taking someone else's base and stealing credit is just wrong.
April 26th, 2013
ivanmostdope

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thin2223u

This isn't intellectual property that you can patent or copyright. Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery right? Who cares if people copy bases? We've all done it at some point.

Meh, a quick shout-out wouldn't have hurt

EDIT: excuse my outdated avatar ;) also just hit 300 posts:o
April 26th, 2013
RegaliaRemix

OMG. The CIA/FBI will be up people's asses now for plagiarizing base designs.
April 26th, 2013
Junliang

Quote:

Originally Posted by hb808

I'm going to coin a term that has never been seen before in CoC forums: Base sampling

It is when you take somebody's base, sample it, and make it your own without giving due credit.

Kinda like McHammer, Vanilla Ice, and a host of other one-hit wonders.

Besides...my TH8 base kicks his in the shorts. I would exploit his spread out AD and my minions would poop all over it. But that's just me.

Haha..
He totally copied every single details, even the trap funneling, even the storage position, every single tower position.
..

Good example of crediting would be Hannibal, using him as an example as his base designs were outstanding :)
He was using kris design, and he posted and credited kris, saying that he is using another version that is adjusted from kris's base.
Thats the kind of spirit I like to see man.
Good "clashmanship" if you will lol.

I would certainly love to see your base design..
If you want privacy, maybe pm me after censoring your clan name and ign ? :D
Would love some new inspiration.. my brain cells dying in thinking of new designs.
April 26th, 2013
pinser

Dude, I had the exact same thought when I watched the video.:mad:

But seriously, you're flaming him. -_-
April 26th, 2013
silentwill

I don't know him/her. Sorry.

Was here :)
April 26th, 2013
Junliang

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngrehBard

Well when you put your base design on the forums, its out to copy.

But taking someone else's base and stealing credit is just wrong.

Agreed.

I wouldn't mind if my base design helped other TH7, or TH8 in their defense.
I'm more than happy to share my designs to the community.

Here is an example: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...rxHN-CFAWyb6yD
Thats the channel of Feat Lim, aka Soki on forum, who credited me for the base design without me saying a single thing regarding it.

But maddendvinik went and take credit for Childish's design without permission or thanks whatsoever !
Even copying it EXACTLY ._.
What a nerve !

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinser

Dude, I had the exact same thought when I watched the video.:mad:

But seriously, you're flaming him. -_-

sue meeeeeeee :(
I could have phrase it better, but yeah, my emotions got the better of me. :p
April 26th, 2013
horse

My first though... who gives a ♥♥♥♥?

My second thought... more "elitist ♥♥" from Junliang because he has forum street cred *golfclap*
April 26th, 2013
Titoezz

First design is from jasper/pipa from Arkham Beach. Not his either.

Couldve also done the job with commenting on the vid though. This thread is gonna give him 30-40 more subs.

Good job advertising.
April 26th, 2013
zachUVA

Quote:

Originally Posted by horse

My first though... who gives a ♥♥♥♥?

My second thought... more "elitist ♥♥" from Junliang because he has forum street cred *golfclap*

There is no sich thing as forum street cred. This thread isn't exactly getting positive reviews.
April 26th, 2013
pinser

How do we sue Jun?:rolleyes:
April 26th, 2013
Alky

How do I know who made their base first anyways?
April 26th, 2013
zachUVA

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinser

How do we sue Jun?:rolleyes:

Ideally, you would get a lawyer and use the court system.
April 26th, 2013
Thin2223u

Quote:

Originally Posted by zachUVA

There is no sich thing as forum street cred. This thread isn't exactly getting positive reviews.

Sorry, have to call you out here.... Hard to take this comment seriously from somebody who belongs to a forum group called "Forum Elite" with the other top posters. Just being honest, it does seem like the forum has basically become very cliquey which was bound to happen I guess.

off topic, my apologies
April 26th, 2013
Opihi

jun u jealous he has better quality videos than you and more subs so you have to flame him? just because someone post their base in the base design doesn't mean they have all the rights to it and they are the original... these forums have a small fraction of players in the entire game... for all we know nobody is the original in the base design threads... quit being a butt hurt Beverly
April 26th, 2013
Daddy

To be fair that group has been pretty inactive for many months, i think it was started as a very tongue in cheek joke.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thin2223u

Sorry, have to call you out here.... Hard to take this comment seriously from somebody who belongs to a forum group called "Forum Elite" with the other top posters. Just being honest, it does seem like the forum has basically become very cliquey which was bound to happen I guess.

off topic, my apologies
April 26th, 2013
Thin2223u

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy

To be fair that group has been pretty inactive for many months, i think it was started as a very tongue in cheek joke.

Haha well then nevermind, thx. Didn't realize it was a joke.
April 26th, 2013
DKStus

This is probably better handled by a PM to his youtube account or account here:

http://forum.supercell.net/member.php/33089-Dvinik
April 26th, 2013
TheLastClan

lol look at his profile in the link posted earlier:
0 Friends

Dvinik has not made any friends yet

"dvink has not made any friends yet" hahahahaha
April 26th, 2013
Junliang

Quote:

Originally Posted by horse

My first though... who gives a ♥♥♥♥?
My second thought... more "elitist ♥♥" from Junliang because he has forum street cred *golfclap*

elitist ?
First time getting called an elitist to be honest.

forum street cred ?
well I do know that some of my posts and threads have certainly helped a few people in their raids and base defense.
But I wouldn't call that street cred.
Merely helping out other forum members.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opihi

jun u jealous he has better quality videos than you and more subs so you have to flame him? just because someone post their base in the base design doesn't mean they have all the rights to it and they are the original... these forums have a small fraction of players in the entire game... for all we know nobody is the original in the base design threads... quit being a butt hurt Beverly

:/ whatever you say bro.
I'm just pointing out something that I saw and what I think was wrong.
And for you to think that I care about subs, you certainly do not know me at all.
So quit assuming you know so much about me.

As said, I brought this issue is because the base are so identical, layout design, building allocation, traps position, every single thing is almost the same if you compare properly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thin2223u

Sorry, have to call you out here.... Hard to take this comment seriously from somebody who belongs to a forum group called "Forum Elite" with the other top posters. Just being honest, it does seem like the forum has basically become very cliquey which was bound to happen I guess.
off topic, my apologies

._. they invited me to that group, a chance to make more friends, why not ?
I didn't think the title of the group would make such a huge impact though.

maybe I should just leave the group.
April 26th, 2013
XenapZ

I agree. Making a vid and show off the base is completly fine, but trying to make it seem like its his own unique design is just wrong.

Everyone in the fommunity knows this design and i dont understand how he thought he would get away with it.

Stop flaming jun for calling out a poser.
April 26th, 2013
Pingfao

Although I do not agree with how this topic was brought up, nor do I think it should have been a topic in the first place, I do understand Junliang's frustration. It is technically not anyone's necessity to give credits where it is due, but in my opinion, blatantly claiming someone else's work should be frown upon.

childish seemed excited to have his design copied and noticed without the credits though. Mrlesway used one of my testing bases once, and ended up commenting in the next episode "Pingfao, I'm sorry if you're watching, but this base sucks." Got my credits! :p
April 26th, 2013
TheLastClan

also i can't remember who said it but really, do you think maddendvinik makes better videos than jun? maddendvinik's videos sucks really cmon look at them
April 26th, 2013
Junliang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy

To be fair that group has been pretty inactive for many months, i think it was started as a very tongue in cheek joke.

Thanks for dropping by Daddy.

Sorry for sprinkling salt on the healing wound of the general sub forum, but I saw the relevance in the base design of the 2 and simply could not take it lying down, and had to speak up for Childish.
April 26th, 2013
Illustris

We were the discussing the rising level of unemployment in Spain and certain other countries in clan chat, and the concerns and hopes we have for all struggling economies... and I read this thread while chatting in the game...

ROFL, you guys and gals crack me up. Now, that's what the forums are for! Haha.

Base sampling, HB? Seriously? You just copied my term, and didn't give me the shout out.

Illustris, the Original Box Designer without Spikes
April 26th, 2013
Junliang

Quote:

Originally Posted by XenapZ

I agree. Making a vid and show off the base is completly fine, but trying to make it seem like its his own unique design is just wrong.

Everyone in the fommunity knows this design and i dont understand how he thought he would get away with it.

Stop flaming jun for calling out a poser.

Thanks for keeping this thread on topic.

Agreed. Childish has been helping out the TH8 Base Design thread thus far and has helped many forum members with their base design. His base is great and he loves it.
Was disappointed and slightly irritated when I saw his favorite base got ripped off just like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastClan

also i can't remember who said it but really, do you think maddendvinik makes better videos than jun? maddendvinik's videos sucks really cmon look at them

Wow, thanks for the support on my vids :)

My vids are more focus and targeted at mature audience that likes the technical aspect, strategy and the fine details in clash of clans. Rather than those "Latest updates in CoC !!!" or "100 Minions gameplay !!!" kinda stuff.
So yeah, I don't mind a smaller sub, as long as they are matured.

What I do not need on my channel is few thousand 13 year old kids spamming "REVIEW MY BASE PLEAASSEEE !!" or "OMG show us 100 MR T Gameplay !1!11!"

Youtube chnl wise, I certainly love LtNix0n's educational series videos.

Its these fine details in the game thats make such strategy game so indepth and awesome.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pingfao

Although I do not agree with how this topic was brought up, nor do I think it should have been a topic in the first place, I do understand Junliang's frustration. It is technically not anyone's necessity to give credits where it is due, but in my opinion, blatantly claiming someone else's work should be frown upon.

childish seemed excited to have his design copied and noticed without the credits though. Mrlesway used one of my testing bases once, and ended up commenting in the next episode "Pingfao, I'm sorry if you're watching, but this base sucks." Got my credits! :p

Yea.. I admit my emotions got the better of me when a fellow base designer got his favorite ripped off just like that and broadcasted.

Yeah.. he is a nice guy haha :)
Haha ! I can totally imagine that.
That comment itself is an acknowledgement in my books already haha :p
April 26th, 2013
Opihi

there are maybe a couple hundred members on this forum but 100s of thousands who play this game.... if i see a base design that is unique and nobody has posted it in on the forum am i the original owner? only i will know i copied it and the original owner now becomes a copycat of MY design... im just saying there is no possible way to know who came up with what first... so how can you give credit without knowing 100% they are the original owner? i see similar bases thats in the vid all the time. probably most dont even check out the forums... this post is like those threads who post names of people who everyone should blacklist and should be closed...
April 26th, 2013
TheLastClan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junliang

Thanks for keeping this thread on topic.

Agreed. Childish has been helping out the TH8 Base Design thread thus far and has helped many forum members with their base design. His base is great and he loves it.
Was disappointed and slightly irritated when I saw his favorite base got ripped off just like that.

Wow, thanks for the support on my vids :)

My vids are more focus and targeted at mature audience that likes the technical aspect, strategy and the fine details in clash of clans. Rather than those "Latest updates in CoC !!!" or "100 Minions gameplay !!!" kinda stuff.
So yeah, I don't mind a smaller sub, as long as they are matured.

What I do not need on my channel is few thousand 13 year old kids spamming "REVIEW MY BASE PLEAASSEEE !!" or "OMG show us 100 MR T Gameplay !1!11!"

Youtube chnl wise, I certainly love LtNix0n's educational series videos.

Its these fine details in the game thats make such strategy game so indepth and awesome.

Yea.. I admit my emotions got the better of me when a fellow base designer got his favorite ripped off just like that and broadcasted.

Yeah.. he is a nice guy haha :)
Haha ! I can totally imagine that.
That comment itself is an acknowledgement in my books already haha :p

i love ltnixons videos too :-) i actually stole your base once after whatching one of your videos (slightly difrent than yours actually because you have more storages and stuff like that) it took a month to find you again because i forgot the name of your channel haha i only found you because i started at the forums a week ago (im subscriped now so i wont loose you again :D)
April 26th, 2013
TheLastClan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opihi

there are maybe a couple hundred members on this forum but 100s of thousands who play this game.... if i see a base design that is unique and nobody has posted it in on the forum am i the original owner? only i will know i copied it and the original owner now becomes a copycat of MY design... i'm just saying there is no possible way to know who came up with what first... so how can you give credit without knowing 100% they are the original owner? i see similar bases thats in the vid all the time. probably most don't even check out the forums... this post is like those threads who post names of people who everyone should blacklist and should be closed...

no its not like that this is different because this one is clearly a copy and we know that childish has this base first and then dvinik comes and tries to make people believe that he made the design himself. besides no one said anything about blacklisting him, this thread is only to try and tell people that thats not true and make dvinik himself come up with a shout out in a future video maby
April 26th, 2013
Opihi

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastClan

no its not like that this is different because this one is clearly a copy and we know that childish has this base first and then dvinik comes and tries to make people believe that he made the design himself. besides no one said anything about blacklisting him, this thread is only to try and tell people that thats not true and make dvinik himself come up with a shout out in a future video maby

maybe not a blacklist but a shaming thread... and did you review every base in this game the day before childish posted his base design to make sure there was not 1 exactly like it?? point is there is no possible way to tell especially with how little forum members there are compared to actual players in the game... just because i post a base design that nobody posted everyone after now owes me credit?
April 26th, 2013
TheLastClan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opihi

maybe not a blacklist but a shaming thread... and did you review every base in this game the day before childish posted his base design to make sure there was not 1 exactly like it?? point is there is no possible way to tell especially with how little forum members there are compared to actual players in the game... just because i post a base design that nobody posted everyone after now owes me credit?

no we haven't looked it through but its unimportant if anyone had it before childish, the point is that dvinik shouldn't claim he made the design when it can be proved he didn't and yeah a shaming tread lol shame on him!
April 26th, 2013
Opihi

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLastClan

no we haven't looked it through but its unimportant if anyone had it before childish, the point is that dvinik shouldn't claim he made the design when it can be proved he didn't and yeah a shaming tread lol shame on him!

he didnt say in the OP video link that it was his original base that he drew up from scratch... he just said my base... how would you refer to your base if you were talking to someone?
April 26th, 2013
Junliang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opihi

maybe not a blacklist but a shaming thread... and did you review every base in this game the day before childish posted his base design to make sure there was not 1 exactly like it?? point is there is no possible way to tell especially with how little forum members there are compared to actual players in the game... just because i post a base design that nobody posted everyone after now owes me credit?

I know you have seen these 2 pictures, but I kindly ask of you to view it even closer.

http://i44.tinypic.com/33nx7cp.jpg

and
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps32bf82d8.png

Let me list the difference
1) Swap between gold/elixir storage depending on which is fuller
2) Swap of position at the top and bottom of the lab and 3rd tesla.
3) Bk to the top.
4) btm right cannon/arch swap as arch upgrading.

Every single thing else is almost exactly the same.
April 26th, 2013
Opihi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junliang

I know you have seen these 2 pictures, but I kindly ask of you to view it even deeper.

http://i44.tinypic.com/33nx7cp.jpg

and
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps32bf82d8.png

Let me list the difference
1) Swap between gold/elixir storage depending on which is fuller
2) Swap of position at the top and bottom of the lab and 3rd tesla.

Every single thing else is exactly the same.

obviously you're not comprehending what I am writing... so you can re read the point I am trying to get across...
April 26th, 2013
Junliang

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opihi

obviously you're not comprehending what I am writing... so you can re read the point I am trying to get across...

I understand your point.

But you seem to be nit picking on the small impossibility, where the bigger picture is already right infront of our eyes.

Pardon me for saying this(gonna get label as a elitist again), but I've really seen tons of bases, from bases starting from pedrolee's screenshot thread, to the current base design threads, to the bases created by other youtubers. And believe me, I observe every single details of the base to look out for staggered T junction, or new tower placements, or other possible new inspirations to combat new WB's AI..
Never have I seen 2 bases so identical before
April 26th, 2013
Opihi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junliang

I understand your point.

But you seem to be nit picking on the small impossibility, where the bigger picture is already right infront of our eyes.

Pardon me for saying this(gonna get label as a elitist again), but I've really seen tons of bases, from bases starting from pedrolee's screenshot thread, to the current base design threads, to the bases created by other youtubers. And believe me, I observe every single details of the base to look out for staggered T junction, or new tower placements, or other possible new inspirations to combat new WB's AI..
Never have I seen 2 bases so identical before

which brings me back to my point that youre not getting... just because someone post a pic of their base on this forum as long as nobody else posted it previously... it's their original? and every base in game after that is a copycat? im not saying the dude in the video didnt copy the design... im saying how do we know who to give credit to? there is no 100% fact who the original designer is because these forums hold a fraction of a percent of players who actually play the game.
April 26th, 2013
childish

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titoezz

First design is from jasper/pipa from Arkham Beach. Not his either.

Couldve also done the job with commenting on the vid though. This thread is gonna give him 30-40 more subs.

Good job advertising.

That's amazing Titoezz.. i didn't realize that until you said something. Go figure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pingfao

Although I do not agree with how this topic was brought up, nor do I think it should have been a topic in the first place, I do understand Junliang's frustration. It is technically not anyone's necessity to give credits where it is due, but in my opinion, blatantly claiming someone else's work should be frown upon.

childish seemed excited to have his design copied and noticed without the credits though. Mrlesway used one of my testing bases once, and ended up commenting in the next episode "Pingfao, I'm sorry if you're watching, but this base sucks." Got my credits! :p

And i am!!

For the record, i am not at all disappointed with the guy. Just shocked/suprised. Like jun said - a person of his caliber i would have thought would give credit were credit is due, but i guess not. For those that have been on the forums for months on end know that EVERY established base designer gives a shoutout to everyone for their input and support. I was just talking to Ping privately on how it's amazing two-three months ago we were looking up to some of the finest and most resepcted designers out there that went out of their way to help us and provide us with the information we know now. Now, we are able to pay it forward and create new designs based on the same principles, but with a different outlook.

To all base designers - old and new - i salute you. I know that i wouldn't be where i am today unless it was for you.
At the end of the day, I'm truly excited that one would even consider any design any of us make good enough to try.

~C.

p.s. - i still have the first PM i ever sent to anyone on the forums for knowledge - and that was to hannibal at the beginning of the year. I spammed the ♥♥♥♥ out of his Inbox LOL. I remember him saying then that he just plays this for a hobby and nothing more. Fast forward 4 months later.. what a freaking beast!! Everything he says in forums i normally re-read 2-3 times cuz it makes me feel smarter to be able to understand his knowledge he provides to us at his level LOL ;p I'm such a loser, lol.
April 26th, 2013
Mendax

I don't see the problem. It's not as if the guy ever lied, claiming he made the base himself without any outside insperational (which he may have actually done, too). All he said was "give me feed back on my base". Which is what he should say. Since the viewer is looking at his base. Maybe the guy should upgrade something different than Childish.

Anyway, it's not like bases are copyrighted. There is no way to claim or to find out that "This base was originally created by Childish". You could say these forums are an (unofficial) place where that happens, but I would guess that less than 1% of the people who have ever played Clash of Clans has read te whole base design thread.
April 26th, 2013
RuthlessBarbarian

I didn't read entire chain, but this once again proves to me one thing - there are NO original designs (unless MO's beetle or Ping's theme park v1.0). Any base design at this point is a variation of someone else's design. While I Pride myself in designing all of my bases, I've seen a dozen base variations or exact replica of mine. Does that mean I expect credits? Absolutely not as I do not know whether my base was inspired and created prior to another person's similarly designed base or the other way around.

This is just my 2c of course, but when people claim to have "original" design and their base looks anythign like flower, eggshell or segmented, I say ♥♥! You have not seen 100s of thousands other bases to claim it your own. Forum users prolly not even 1% of the overall player population. So while I am entertained and giving others credit for trying, I personally would refrain from the copyright wars.
April 26th, 2013
Haloboyvash

Who's to say someone who doesn't even use these forums created a base like this before but never posted pics of it?

No way of knowing who made what and when, and if anything we have all borrowed ideas from one another to build our bases. Not many of our bases are totally unique, each one takes small aspects from other similar bases and we either directly copy it or mold its usefulness into our base.

No big deal :cool:
April 26th, 2013
Alky

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Originally Posted by TheLastClan

no we haven't looked it through but its unimportant if anyone had it before childish, the point is that dvinik shouldn't claim he made the design when it can be proved he didn't and yeah a shaming tread lol shame on him!

And you cant prove he didnt. Kettle meet pot.
April 26th, 2013
hb808

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Originally Posted by Junliang

I would certainly love to see your base design..
If you want privacy, maybe pm me after censoring your clan name and ign ? :D
Would love some new inspiration.. my brain cells dying in thinking of new designs.

I don't post my base design because it would ruin the balance of the game. People would copy it, then there would be massive amounts of fluffy-hurt because of hb's superior geometrically sound and optimized base design. That being said, here are the last three attacks on my base (their names have been removed to protect their ego):

NOTE: These are TH9s attacking my TH8 base.

http://i.imgur.com/gmjYEE4.jpg

1) Victim 1: He was close to the 50% mark but released his minions without first clearing the path. I have my mines optimized to address such failures at attacking.

2) Victim 2: He could've 3-starred me but lacked the knowledge on proper troop distribution and basic attack fundamentals. Yes, he did get a 1-star, but should've had at LEAST a 2-star.

3) Victim 3: The timing of the release of his barbs and archers was completely off. Thus the failure.
April 26th, 2013
Pingfao

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Originally Posted by hb808

I don't post my base design because it would ruin the balance of the game. People would copy it, then there would be massive amounts of fluffy-hurt because of hb's superior geometrically sound and optimized base design. That being said, here are the last three attacks on my base (their names have been removed to protect their ego):

NOTE: These are TH9s attacking my TH8 base.

http://i.imgur.com/gmjYEE4.jpg

Photoshopped!

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Originally Posted by childish

For the record, i am not at all disappointed with the guy. Just shocked/suprised. Like jun said - a person of his caliber i would have thought would give credit were credit is due, but i guess not. For those that have been on the forums for months on end know that EVERY established base designer gives a shoutout to everyone for their input and support. I was just talking to Ping privately on how it's amazing two-three months ago we were looking up to some of the finest and most resepcted designers out there that went out of their way to help us and provide us with the information we know now. Now, we are able to pay it forward and create new designs based on the same principles, but with a different outlook.

To all base designers - old and new - i salute you. I know that i wouldn't be where i am today unless it was for you.
At the end of the day, I'm truly excited that one would even consider any design any of us make good enough to try.

~C.

p.s. - i still have the first PM i ever sent to anyone on the forums for knowledge - and that was to hannibal at the beginning of the year. I spammed the ♥♥♥♥ out of his Inbox LOL. I remember him saying then that he just plays this for a hobby and nothing more. Fast forward 4 months later.. what a freaking beast!! Everything he says in forums i normally re-read 2-3 times cuz it makes me feel smarter to be able to understand his knowledge he provides to us at his level LOL ;p I'm such a loser, lol.

I'm guilty of bothering hannibal in my early days as well. ;) We were all just fanboys a couple of months ago!
April 26th, 2013
Monferno01

junliang, did you saw the edit on childish post? This is his new post:

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Originally Posted by childish

Got off work and caught one of the random vids from MaddenDivinik and he recently switched Base designs and chose my hybrid!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abHsaLHNoho

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps32bf82d8.png

I'm suprised though. One would think if they got a base design from someone and broadcasted they would do a little shoutout via their vid or something!! I know i would.

oh well, i am honored that he chose mine! ;p

~C.
April 26th, 2013
Daddy

:) can you imagine what it's like having him in the clan - i'm rarely a fanboi but i do make a few exceptions :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by childish

p.s. - i still have the first PM i ever sent to anyone on the forums for knowledge - and that was to hannibal at the beginning of the year. I spammed the ♥♥♥♥ out of his Inbox LOL. I remember him saying then that he just plays this for a hobby and nothing more. Fast forward 4 months later.. what a freaking beast!! Everything he says in forums i normally re-read 2-3 times cuz it makes me feel smarter to be able to understand his knowledge he provides to us at his level LOL ;p I'm such a loser, lol.
April 26th, 2013
DonnieDon24

It’s common courtesy, to give credit where credit is due.

I'm currently using Jun's first TH8 farming base.

I have to say it's absolutely awesome.

Thanks again, Jun!

See….that wasn’t that hard. ;)
April 26th, 2013
hb808

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Originally Posted by Pingfao

Photoshopped!

The only thing MSPaint-ed (I don't bother with a $100 program when a free one will do) are the addition of my red text and removal of their names because it would shame their clans (two of them are at the #1 position in their clans and the third is in the #2 slot)
April 26th, 2013
DarkSoulz

The guy clearly mentioned in the description that the base is by childish. So I guess he edited the description and the person is probably viewing this thread right now lol.
April 26th, 2013
Pingfao

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Originally Posted by hb808

The only thing MSPaint-ed (I don't bother with a $100 program when a free one will do) are the addition of my red text and removal of their names because it would shame their clans (two of them are at the #1 position in their clans and the third is in the #2 slot)

Haha I know. It was a joke aiming at those MSPaint edits. :) Impressive logs, IMO.
April 26th, 2013
Syaoraen

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Originally Posted by hb808

The only thing MSPaint-ed (I don't bother with a $100 program when a free one will do) are the addition of my red text and removal of their names because it would shame their clans (two of them are at the #1 position in their clans and the third is in the #2 slot)

Your defense against dragons doesnt show how good your base is. Especially with the new anti air being added. And a good base is about how you place your walls, how can you use dragon attacks to show how good your base is? Properly centered anti air > dragon.

Try again.
April 26th, 2013
hb808

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Originally Posted by Syaoraen

Your defense against dragons doesnt show how good your base is. Especially with the new anti air being added. And a good base is about how you place your walls, how can you use dragon attacks to show how good your base is? Properly centered anti air > dragon.

Try again.

My third anti-air is at lvl 2 and was not instrumental in their defeat. What was instrumental was their lack of skill.

A good base is not just about how you place your walls, but how you place everything. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts (i.e. just walls).

(edit: wth I'll add a failed ground attack) I'm guessing that all of the other ground-based commanders were simply too discouraged to attack me and just paid the 580 gold admission fee to admire my superior base.

Edit: TH9 clan leader in #1 position that failed miserably against my superiorly designed base:

17 wallbreakers and still can't get the sweet stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/6b2H1Ko.jpg
April 26th, 2013
Hannibal

I don't really know how to respond to the kind words. I do think it's nice to give credit when it's due. We all learn from the people who came before us. I remember joining the Bullies in late November or something. I'd spent the previous few months in a clan with an inactive leader and some nice kids who played sporadically. I just felt bad about leaving but at some point never getting donations was too much and I left.

It was around that time I started checking into the forums. I read a thread in which Mediapluck posted that The Bullies was a clan for adults, and I was sold. I learned a ton from Mediapluck, even though his advice never made it into something that seemed appropriate for specific attribution when I started posting more frequently. And at some point down the road I may stop playing (hopefully not too soon!), but with luck the game will be better for the collective contributions everyone makes.
April 26th, 2013
Syaoraen

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Originally Posted by hb808

My third anti-air is at lvl 2 and was not instrumental in their defeat. What was instrumental was their lack of skill.

A good base is not just about how you place your walls, but how you place everything. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts (i.e. just walls).

(edit: wth I'll add a failed ground attack) I'm guessing that all of the other ground-based commanders were simply too discouraged to attack me and just paid the 580 gold admission fee to admire my superior base.

Edit: TH9 clan leader in #1 position that failed miserably against my superiorly designed base:

17 wallbreakers and still can't get the sweet stuff.

http://i.imgur.com/6b2H1Ko.jpg

Tbh that doesn't Look like a serious attack because the lack of spell usage. :/
April 26th, 2013
hb808

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Originally Posted by Syaoraen

Tbh that doesn't Look like a serious attack because the lack of spell usage. :/

He seriously underestimated my superior defense and came unprepared without spells.

:/

tbh

Edit: Here is yet another TH9 clan leader (this one is in the #2 slot in his clan) who used a primarily ground based attack with spells...and failed miserably.

http://i.imgur.com/9QnnKiU.jpg
April 26th, 2013
Syaoraen

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Originally Posted by hb808

He seriously underestimated my superior defense and came unprepared without spells.

:/

tbh

I don't think a farming army can do anything against a well built th8 base :) well done.
April 26th, 2013
hb808

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Originally Posted by Syaoraen

I don't think a farming army can do anything against a well built th8 base :) well done.

If you consider that a farming layout given the troops/spells used and amount gained then you need to reconsider what you term "farming".

My TH8 base isn't just well built. It is godly and the best I've ever seen in the game.
April 26th, 2013
RemonMelika

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Originally Posted by hb808

My TH8 base isn't just well built. It is godly and the best I've ever seen in the game.

humblebrag
April 26th, 2013
hb808

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Originally Posted by RemonMelika

humblebrag

No, blatantbrag. I'm clearly bragging.

Humblebrag would be something like "I wish I was TH2 like you RemonMelika, then I wouldn't have to fend of all these attacks with my maxed out TH8. You are so lucky."
April 26th, 2013
Mendax

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Originally Posted by hb808

If you consider that a farming layout given the troops/spells used and amount gained then you need to reconsider what you term "farming".

My TH8 base isn't just well built. It is godly and the best I've ever seen in the game.

Does it have no loot or trophies? Because the best defence is to have nothing the attacker wants.
April 26th, 2013
RemonMelika

Quote:

Originally Posted by hb808

No, blatantbrag. I'm clearly bragging.

Humblebrag would be something like "I wish I was TH2 like you RemonMelika, then I wouldn't have to fend of all these attacks with my maxed out TH8. You are so lucky."

http://i.imgur.com/5zKXz.gif
April 26th, 2013
Syaoraen

Quote:

Originally Posted by hb808

If you consider that a farming layout given the troops/spells used and amount gained then you need to reconsider what you term "farming".

My TH8 base isn't just well built. It is godly and the best I've ever seen in the game.

I'm feeling the same way, I've never seen any defense as good a mine. It's beyond godlike and i don't even give away elixirs like many people do.
April 26th, 2013
Toby111

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Originally Posted by Syaoraen

I'm feeling the same way, I've never seen any defense as good a mine. It's beyond godlike and i don't even give away elixirs like many people do.

Clan and IGN? Ill tell u how to three star your base.
April 26th, 2013
DonnieDon24

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Originally Posted by hb808

My TH8 base isn't just well built. It is godly and the best I've ever seen in the game.

Everyone, pay attention. Now, this is the proper way to boast. Continue, hb808.
April 26th, 2013
Syaoraen

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Originally Posted by Toby111

Clan and IGN? Ill tell u how to three star your base.

Lol, you should go work on your premature th8 before you talk big.
April 26th, 2013
selleycopter

He did say in the video comments that he forgot to credit Childish and said sorry, then he said where he got his base design from.
April 26th, 2013
Steeem

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Originally Posted by Junliang

Disclaimer: This thread is not meant to flame maddendvinik. I do not watch this maddendvinik's channel, nor is this thread intended to advertise for him. But I would be lying if I say I'm not slightly irritated.

So I was browsing through the TH8 Base design thread as usual when I saw childish's post here: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...489#post395489

Link to the video in topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=abHsaLHNoho
And no I didn't embed it as my purpose wasn't to increase viewership for him.

I went to check it out and true enough.

This was maddendvinik's base before that vid
http://i42.tinypic.com/4j429u.jpg

And in that video, this is his base.
http://i44.tinypic.com/33nx7cp.jpg

Here is Childish's base for reference
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...ps32bf82d8.png

I watch the video 3 times, yet still didn't hear any credits or shout out to childish in the entire video.

He even has the cheek to type this in the video description: "In this episode ill raid, discuss my base, and show some replays of the attacks."

I don't mean to diss him, but for a person of his calibre(for the lack of a better word), Lv72(meaning he been playing for atleast 4 months), 10,000 subscribers, 127 videos, he should certainly know better.

From many persepctive, he seems to be saying that he re-designed his base into a hybrid base, and is claiming credits for the base design.
As a fellow base designer, this issue certainly plucked a nerve somewhere.

If he is just some tom ♥♥♥♥ or harry copying childish's base for his own usage fine.
But he is broadcasting it and claiming credits as his base.

What the bunny ?

I know this is me being nosy since its not even my base, but what the heck ?

And note that the effectiveness or how strong childish's base is NOT the issue here. So don't derail the thread thanks.

epic meltdown

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April 27th, 2013
Toby111

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Originally Posted by Syaoraen

Lol, you should go work on your premature th8 before you talk big.

I came from a maxed TH7, and tbf it sounds like you are avoiding showing your base.
April 27th, 2013
sneakymaori

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Originally Posted by Junliang

Okay, I'm flaming him, sue me.

He doesn't have to, but its a common practise and a sign of acknowledgement/basic courtesy(add your own synonyms here)

I'm using that as a basis to show his "calibre"(Again, for the lack of a better word)

You can, but i'm referring to in general.
E: Then again, the level roll back bug might have made that value inaccurate.

And that's why I'm closing this thread.

regards.

sneaky

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