[PETITION] Make Heroes Usable in Clan Wars... While Upgrading.

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March 20th, 2015
Chaseoeagle

/signed
This would make it more even in the wars
March 20th, 2015
ntropy

/signed

It would keep an even playing field
March 20th, 2015
CerebralKnievel

I agree that Heroes ought to be a lab upgrade, logically.
March 20th, 2015
Unknownf

/Signed
Just in cw to make play fair
March 20th, 2015
webbie

Without this I will probably stop upgrading my heroes early which means less DE farming, less time on the game, and less overall enjoyment.

Just do it!
March 21st, 2015
Tajadoru

/signed

I can't use 3 star strategies in war without my archer queen or king.
March 22nd, 2015
LegendaryDestroyer

/signed

totally agree

/signed
March 22nd, 2015
Mschaub

/signed

fix this error in judgement supercell
March 22nd, 2015
viriviki

I agree.

/signed
March 22nd, 2015
El Chapo

/signed...
March 22nd, 2015
didizack

Signed!

totally agree. pls make heroes usable during war! :thumbsup:
March 22nd, 2015
Reddigulous

Signed. This is currently the biggest problem with coc. It just doesn't make sense.
March 22nd, 2015
GameSketcher

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sluffy

This makes sense on every level!! Keep Clan wars viable and competitive!

/signed

This ABSOULUTELY NEEDS TO COME TO GAME!!! ;)
March 22nd, 2015
dzabotto

Signed!

/signed
And all my brasilian clan mates on this reply, we all signed!
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Bump, when is this coming?
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Nooooooooooo i thought this horrible thread was dead
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Nooooooooooo i thought this horrible thread was dead

Too bad, and now your just keeping it alive
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

Bump, when is this coming?

never. It will never happen. Supercell will never implement it.
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

never. It will never happen. Supercell will never implement it.

Didn't SC sign the petition or something?
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

Didn't SC sign the petition or something?

no:straightface:
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

no:straightface:

Ok still, it can be implemented, just like you can request cc troops while the cc is upgrading
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

Ok still, it can be implemented, just like you can request cc troops while the cc is upgrading

you don't request somebody to lend a hero do you? not at all the same
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

you don't request somebody to lend a hero do you? not at all the same

What? The clan castle's main purpose is to request reinforcement troops, it carries out that process even while upgrading, that's my point. Heroes purpose is to be used in attacks. It doesn't carry out that purpose when being upgraded. It's not a big issues except when in wars where heroes are important. Your rebuttal doesn't address my point.
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

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Originally Posted by ILike2Clash

you cant use a barracks when it is upgrading. You cant use your spell factory when it is upgrading. This isnt much different. Defenses are always available for wars. Offenses, not so much

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Originally Posted by ILike2Clash

Also, the main reason this wouldn't make sense:
On your war base, everything functions properly all the time. You don't attack with the troops on your war base, only your real base. If you are upgrading your hero, and attacked in a war, it wouldn't make sense for you to suddenly have a hero in your inventory: Your hero is asleep on its altar. It wouldn't make sense to have spells for war if your spells are upgrading: You would have to make the individual spells first, but your spell factory is undergoing re-construction. And then after making the spells for war, you could just go and use them for a regular attack. The only reason your defenses and heroes are available for defense in war is because your war base is in a different place, so they are (Technically) Different cannons/whatever other defense and different heroes. You don't make spells with the spell factory at your war base, and you don't use the hero at your war base to attack. Your war base is like some outpost far away, and has absolutely nothing to do with attacking. You don't use your war castle to attack, only to defend.

Ilike2clash is smart. He understands all the reasons why this idea makes no sense. I have read this post twice, and any argument you make as to why this idea should be implemented, this quote has a counter to that argument. Go ahead and argue away. The quote above explains in full detail why your argument is invalid.
March 22nd, 2015
LordOfMayhem

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Ilike2clash is smart. He understands all the reasons why this idea makes no sense. I have read this post twice, and any argument you make as to why this idea should be implemented, this quote has a counter to that argument. Go ahead and argue away. The quote above explains in full detail why your argument is invalid.

i think you must secretly want this.. because idk why you are commenting on it so much keeping it on the top of the list. anyway.. i think it would be a cool addition
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Ilike2clash is smart. He understands all the reasons why this idea makes no sense. I have read this post twice, and any argument you make as to why this idea should be implemented, this quote has a counter to that argument. Go ahead and argue away. The quote above explains in full detail why your argument is invalid.

This mainly says why defences work and not offences for wars, not why this shouldn't be implemented.
March 22nd, 2015
ROM4N

The only way to make the use of heros viable whilst upgrading is to have them researched in lab rather than upgrading them......but then it would slow down other troop upgrades..
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Ilike2clash is smart. He understands all the reasons why this idea makes no sense. I have read this post twice, and any argument you make as to why this idea should be implemented, this quote has a counter to that argument. Go ahead and argue away. The quote above explains in full detail why your argument is invalid.

Also to counter the quotes you provided, how come the shield doesnt break when using a war attack? It's because it's war, the algorithm is different from normal raiding and a hero popping up in your inventory for war would work out just like the shield doesnt break.
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

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Originally Posted by ROM4N

The only way to make the use of heros viable whilst upgrading is to have them researched in lab rather than upgrading them......but then it would slow down other troop upgrades..

Not really, SC can use the same algorithm they use for the shield system, if a shield doesnt break when using a war attack, then heroes can be used in wars while upgrading
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

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Originally Posted by LordOfMayhem

i think you must secretly want this.. because idk why you are commenting on it so much keeping it on the top of the list. anyway.. i think it would be a cool addition

It will be at the top of the list anyways, too many people that think this idea makes sense will keep replying. Might as well fight them
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

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Originally Posted by Seuss145

This mainly says why defences work and not offences for wars, not why this shouldn't be implemented.

It uses examples as why implementing this wouldn't make sense, which is pretty much why it shouldn't be implemented.
March 22nd, 2015
LordOfMayhem

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROM4N

The only way to make the use of heros viable whilst upgrading is to have them researched in lab rather than upgrading them......but then it would slow down other troop upgrades..

I would rather have the bk/aq sit out than have them part of the spell factory if those were the only two options.
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

It uses examples as why implementing this wouldn't make sense, which is pretty much why it shouldn't be implemented.

I said a counter to those quotes already, but here it is again. It would still make sense to use heroes in war. How come your shield doesnt break when you use a war attack? Because it's war, not normal raiding. So just like that, an upgrading hero being used in wars can work out. A hero popping into your inventory when using a war attack would not be senseless at all.
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

Also to counter the quotes you provided, how come the shield doesnt break when using a war attack? It's because it's war, the algorithm is different from normal raiding and a hero popping up in your inventory for war would work out just like the shield doesnt break.

They would also have to add a health bar above an upgrading hero (Which would look rather stupid) and the hero could not just randomly pop up in your inventory. When upgrading a spell factory, you cant make more spells. This is no different
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

They would also have to add a health bar above an upgrading hero (Which would look rather stupid) and the hero could not just randomly pop up in your inventory. When upgrading a spell factory, you cant make more spells. This is no different

Would it look stupid? The look of the hero doesn't compare to the uses, you can say lvl 1 drakes look stupid but ppl still use them.

I know about the spell factory, but I countered with the clan castle and the shield system, if you can't counter those 2, then your arguements are not strong enough to make someone believe it is not worth implementing
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Your war base is for full defensive use entirely, and nothing else. your regular base is for offense and defense. Nothing on your regular base works while being upgraded except troops, spells, and your clan castle (And resource storages obviously). These all make sense: If the alchemists are figuring out how to make your troops stronger, they aren't building newer versions of troops, so your troops can still be used. When they are making a new recipe for a spell to make it stronger, you still have the old recipe to make spells with. Whilst upgrading the clan castle, you can still walk around in buildings that are being renovated right? However, if a builder is making a new sword for you while you sleep, you cant go out and attack somebody with a sword for two reasons. 1: You are asleep. 2: You have no sword.
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Your war base is for full defensive use entirely, and nothing else. your regular base is for offense and defense. Nothing on your regular base works while being upgraded except troops, spells, and your clan castle (And resource storages obviously). These all make sense: If the alchemists are figuring out how to make your troops stronger, they aren't building newer versions of troops, so your troops can still be used. When they are making a new recipe for a spell to make it stronger, you still have the old recipe to make spells with. Whilst upgrading the clan castle, you can still walk around in buildings that are being renovated right? However, if a builder is making a new sword for you while you sleep, you cant go out and attack somebody with a sword for two reasons. 1: You are asleep. 2: You have no sword.

This isn't really contributing to the idea and doesn't really counter my posts. Also, spells don't work while being upgraded, you said it yourself earlier and now you say otherwise. Contradicting. Also you said NEW sword, so there is the old sword, right?
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

Would it look stupid? The look of the hero doesn't compare to the uses, you can say lvl 1 drakes look stupid but ppl still use them.

I know about the spell factory, but I countered with the clan castle and the shield system, if you can't counter those 2, then your arguements are not strong enough to make someone believe it is not worth implementing

And the shield system? You aren't attacking a random player's base. Think of the normal attack system as random squabbles over tribes. And clan wars are big wars. If your enemies are unable to see your base, then leaving for three minutes to help a cause wont alert them. If you savagely attack somebody's base while you are invisible, the other "tribes" nearby will notice the sudden attack and they will respond with another attack. If your base is destroyed, your "shield" is the other tribes seeing your village as destroyed and seeing that you learned a lesson from it.
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

This isn't really contributing to the idea and doesn't really counter my posts. Also, spells don't work while being upgraded, you said it yourself earlier and now you say otherwise. Contradicting. Also you said NEW sword, so there is the old sword, right?

Spells don't work while the spell factory is upgrading is what I said. Spells work just fine if the spell itself is upgrading. And look at an upgrading BK. is there any old sword there? And by making him a new sword, that doesn't necessarily mean from scratch. That builder could easily be re-melting down the old sword and adding new material, because if you look at the BKs info, his sword is broken.
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

And the shield system? You aren't attacking a random player's base. Think of the normal attack system as random squabbles over tribes. And clan wars are big wars. If your enemies are unable to see your base, then leaving for three minutes to help a cause wont alert them. If you savagely attack somebody's base while you are invisible, the other "tribes" nearby will notice the sudden attack

You can still get attacked in those 3 mins, that's how the shield system works.
In addition, I was saying how shields don't break when attacking in war as appossed to attacking in raids. That still doesn't counter my supporting detail to the main arguement, mainly says some sense in what it is, it's a game, not everything is sensible.
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Spells don't work while the spell factory is upgrading is what I said. Spells work just fine if the spell itself is upgrading. And look at an upgrading BK. is there any old sword there? And by making him a new sword, that doesn't necessarily mean from scratch. That builder could easily be re-melting down the old sword and adding new material, because if you look at the BKs info, his sword is broken.

You said you still have the recipe to make spells meaning you can still make spells, so your still contradicting. You just cleared it up about the BK but it was contradicting before.
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

You can still get attacked in those 3 mins, that's how the shield system works.
In addition, I was saying how shields don't break when attacking in war as appossed to attacking in raids. That still doesn't counter my supporting detail to the main arguement, mainly says some sense in what it is, it's a game, not everything is sensible.

actually it does counter your argument. Re-read my post and don't take it so literally.
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

You said you still have the recipe to make spells meaning you can still make spells, so your still contradicting. You just cleared it up about the BK but it was contradicting before.

:facepalm:
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

:facepalm:

That still doesn't help your case, just bumps this thread
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

You said you still have the recipe to make spells meaning you can still make spells, so your still contradicting. You just cleared it up about the BK but it was contradicting before.

I have decided that you are no longer arguing because you think you are right. You are arguing for the sake of arguing.
Brb. I have to go eat dinner. This quarrel shall resume in half an hour lol
March 22nd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

I have decided that you are no longer arguing because you think you are right. You are arguing for the sake of arguing.
Brb. I have to go eat dinner. This quarrel shall resume in half an hour lol

Just trying to prove my point, im just countering your counters, ok be back in half an hour
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

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Originally Posted by RockTheRock

You raid with troops that are ready to battle. You cant raid on multiplayer with heroes upgrading. They made clan wars attacking like multiplayer on purpose. If they wanted you to use heroes in war while upgrading, they would have added it by now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

I dont see how this many people can agree with this. There is no reason that your barb king and archer queen SHOULD be able to be used in war attacks. A war attack is still a regular attack, just on an odd landscape. If your BK and AQ are available to attack for war when they are upgrading, they would have to be available for regular attacks. This thread makes no sense

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcleo

I don't know.

I do believe the heroes are defending warbases even while upgrading but indeed thet can't be used in attacks.
So, comparing with other defenses, the hero does what all other defenses do, be fully operational on the previous level.
On offense it does behave like spells rather than troops. If you upgrade the spell facture during war you can't create spells similar to not being able to use the king while it is upgrading.

think of the posts above, all from October of last year. Its annoying that this thread has come back to life. ILike2Clash, RockTheRock, and myself have already stated numerous reasons as to why this shouldn't be implemented. However, most people just read the original post, reply to it, and forget about the thread.
March 22nd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

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Originally Posted by Seuss145

That still doesn't help your case, just bumps this thread

Also, as I have said before, I stated that new spells can be created while they are upgrading. New spells Cannot be upgrading while the spell factory is upgrading. Troops can be made while they are upgrading, but not while the building they are made in is upgrading. Barb King cannot attack or defend while upgrading just like how a defense doesn't function while upgrading. He cannot attack while upgrading just like how spells cannot be made while factory is upgrading and troops cannot be made while barracks is upgrading.
March 23rd, 2015
Seuss145

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

Also, as I have said before, I stated that new spells can be created while they are upgrading. New spells Cannot be upgrading while the spell factory is upgrading. Troops can be made while they are upgrading, but not while the building they are made in is upgrading. Barb King cannot attack or defend while upgrading just like how a defense doesn't function while upgrading. He cannot attack while upgrading just like how spells cannot be made while factory is upgrading and troops cannot be made while barracks is upgrading.

However army camps can be used while upgrading and cc troops can be requested while the cc is upgrading,

P. S. Sorry for the late reply, got wrapped up in a bit of homework
March 23rd, 2015
Seuss145

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

think of the posts above, all from October of last year. Its annoying that this thread has come back to life. ILike2Clash, RockTheRock, and myself have already stated numerous reasons as to why this shouldn't be implemented. However, most people just read the original post, reply to it, and forget about the thread.

To counter, a war attack is different from a regular raid. Your shield does not break as it is a war attack rather than a multiplayer battle, so therefore war attacks are not the same as multiplayer attacks and different concepts can be used as long as it is not too drastic of a change, heroes usable in wars while upgradinf is not too drastic of a change though
March 23rd, 2015
ColonelAwesome

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

However army camps can be used while upgrading and cc troops can be requested while the cc is upgrading,

P. S. Sorry for the late reply, got wrapped up in a bit of homework

ah, but an army camp is different than a hero. the army camp has to be usable, because what if your camps were full and you wanted to upgrade one? And I have already gone over the Clan Castle...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seuss145

To counter, a war attack is different from a regular raid. Your shield does not break as it is a war attack rather than a multiplayer battle, so therefore war attacks are not the same as multiplayer attacks and different concepts can be used as long as it is not too drastic of a change, heroes usable in wars while upgradinf is not too drastic of a change though

You are right. letting heroes attack while being upgraded wouldn't be too drastic of a change. But it would be a big one, and it wouldn't make sense. And with the war attacks, your shield doesn't break because it isn't a "real" base. its in a fake landscape, and can only be accessed through war attacks. Think of it like this. Normal enemy bases are in ne direction, and your shield is between you and them. The clan war is in the other direction. I sketched a quick drawing of this example in one note. hope this shows up: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
March 23rd, 2015
viriviki

/signed
10signs
March 23rd, 2015
M95

Agreed.

I have 2 heroes upgrading the vast majority of the time. It's frustrating to say the least.
March 23rd, 2015
Lucius321

I personally already solved the problem by not upgrading any more my heroes. I am TH9 level 94 but I have the King only lev. 10 and a Queen only lev. 5 and that's about it, I'm always at war and there's nothing else I can do.
I'm not spending any gem for this stupid issue.

If I could recommend a solution I think that Supercell should simply add a "pause" button (same place as the "cure" button) that pauses the upgrade of the hero for some time at a reasonable cost (let's say 10 gems). I'm sure that in this way Supercell could still make some money and everybody would be happy.
March 23rd, 2015
Charles932

[QUOTE=Sluffy;3044192]This makes sense on every level!! Keep Clan wars viable and competitive!

/signed[This is 100% truth]
March 23rd, 2015
UrMomma

////signed
March 23rd, 2015
Lucashung

Pls Pls Pls!!!

I just wana ask when will it come true?!!!
I really hate my heroes ♥♥♥♥ing "sleeping" during in the clan war!!!

it really like working one day but sleeping whole weeks and weeks and weeeeeekkks......:mad::mad::mad::mad:

pls do upgrade this !!!!!!!
March 23rd, 2015
UnknownShadows

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sluffy

This makes sense on every level!! Keep Clan wars viable and competitive!

/signed

Add a poll...
March 23rd, 2015
WulfKraken

Sounds great, existing system makes game unfair in favor of those who can gem non stop. It should be a level playing field Supercell!
March 23rd, 2015
GODOFDEATH

idk if I've signed this before or not but otherwise
/signed
queen upgrading right now :(
March 26th, 2015
SizableHorns77

signed, let the beasts run wild
March 26th, 2015
germips2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sluffy

he is suggesting hero upgrades happen in a lab like other troops do, so you can still use them while they are improving. i Just want them in clan wars to make the competition fair and viable

Yes,please /signed
March 26th, 2015
Reddigulous

Every time I see this thread I think to myself 'surely supercell has done this already'. My guess is they haven't done it yet because a large number of players use gems to finish hero upgrades so they don't miss war.
March 26th, 2015
Jman50

YES PLLLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

signed
March 26th, 2015
webbie

Losing heroes for farming is a PITA, losing heroes for wars unbalances the game and is one of the few places where gemmers (nothing wrong with them) have a significant advantage. Make your base stronger and you face a stronger opponent, gem the time on your hero and you have a distinct advantage over the pure farmer.
March 26th, 2015
FreedomFighter

/signed

WE DEMAND THIS SUPERCELL
March 26th, 2015
OamnraML

/signed

Totally agreed.
March 26th, 2015
chunchule

/signed

!!!!!
March 26th, 2015
MysticArcherr

/signed

This really needs to happen
March 26th, 2015
GameSketcher

/signed

Need it! :)
March 26th, 2015
yokolalala

/Signed

Shouldn't be disadvantaged because of the upgrade
March 28th, 2015
CreepyRicam

/signed

i think it is a good idea
March 31st, 2015
TyrionImp

/signed

(I registered just so that I could add to this petition)
March 31st, 2015
harryluve

/signed

please do this
March 31st, 2015
yetigamer

/signed
10chars
March 31st, 2015
Qmegali7

/signed

I think Galadon wanted this too!
March 31st, 2015
Allinone27

/signed

Awesome idea
March 31st, 2015
Lowkeylucas

/signed
This would be extremely helpful. Hero upgrades hurt war too much and are far too costly time wise, I like the idea of putting them into the laboratory
April 1st, 2015
alex0219

Re

Sign!!!!!!
April 1st, 2015
Xitra

/signed

I think I already signed it, but just in case, reserving this spot for my signature. If I already signed it, I'll edit this later to something clever... or leave it as a sign of my ineptness...
April 1st, 2015
hesto25

/signed

10 chars
April 1st, 2015
49er

/Signed

My clan is going through some bad struggles with deciding to war with TH10s that are upgrading a hero. It's hard enough to compete with these Asian clans who always seem to get 3 stars with a higher frequency. We get matched with clans that have double or triple the amount of maxed towns and maxed heroes(same amount of overall th9&10). So we need all the help we can get. Take out people who are upgrading heroes and some people might never get to war!

49er
April 1st, 2015
Samm

support

10c
April 1st, 2015
Arithen

/Signed

makes sense to me
April 1st, 2015
Kowalski711

/signed
10c
April 1st, 2015
Joshua13

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccercrazy1

This is not possible. Your CW base is just a "reflection" of your real base. The hero's can be on defense while upgrading in your real base because they are different. Your attacks come from your real base though. That means they would have to somehow make the heros finish upgrading for a short time while you attack. That is simply far too complicated to work. The only other option is to have attacks come from your CW base. That would also be complicated because you would need to have another set of baraks and spell factories running on the same store of resources as your real base is. Supercell won't do it not because they are lazy but because it is too impractical to work.

I hope this clears things up and ends this impossible request. Please now just alow this thread to die.

Well, I think your post shows well that you have no clue how programming works. There is undoubtedly some parameter or property somewhere indicating whether your King is active (healed) or not determining whether you can take it into battle, as well as whether or not it is upgrading.

It would be a very quick override to say that if you own a King, that parameter is irrelevant, thus meaning your King is always with you. From a programming standpoint, depending on the architecture of the game and how well it is coded, this would be a very easy thing to implement.
April 1st, 2015
TheUsAsian

/signed

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
10 chars
April 1st, 2015
Farayin

Bump
10ckokok
April 1st, 2015
Dreamzlol

/signed

10c
April 1st, 2015
Coloradokiwiboy

/signed.

Get your heroes done at th9 kids. While you can still war without them.
April 1st, 2015
fre3dom

/signed
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April 1st, 2015
Moejito

/signed

.....
April 1st, 2015
gamedogg

signed

even if its only at the previous lvl until fully upgraded its only fair.
April 1st, 2015
AnaBang

/signed
We must get this.
April 1st, 2015
xtalx

Signed.

Easiest way to do this would be for the altar to be upgraded and the hero can still sleep/guard just like normal whilst it's being upgraded.
April 1st, 2015
Leptyx

I don't include myself in wars when i'm upgrading my spell factory, same with heroes, deal with it lol

It has its pros and cons. If you're upgrading Factory/Hero/Army camp, and it will be done when the war starts, you'll be stronger than what you've been matched with according to your buildings levels

and it's not like missing a war out of 20 matters..

I'm not against that idea but i'm not signing neither
April 1st, 2015
RandomBB

/singed
lot of.....
April 1st, 2015
Reggy

/signed

we need it
April 1st, 2015
RoverTWil

////signed////
April 1st, 2015
urspace

/signed
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