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Thats what loot penalty is for. Also if a th8 was to train a gowipe he could easily two star a th9, so that is a moot point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironagedave
No base is untouchable, even if you were completely maxed you could still get three starred.
Also raiding lower ths is the nature of the game. What is a th6 to do when steamrolled by a th7?
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Originally Posted by Gama321
Loot penalty does nada between a TH9 and TH8 - and a TH8 doing gowipe on a near maxed TH9 would not be very effective without his golems being level 2 that he is currently saving up for, furthermore GOWIPE is not an economically viable alternative to lightning strikes if he is trying to save up his DE is it?
Ergo it is not a moot point if I want to trade a bit of elixr to get back my DE that is a far better price I am willing to pay.
Your arguement is as bad as "wall breakers are far too good at blowing up walls this has to be stopped."
Gama, are you really making a problem about this issue? You looked/still are looking like an awesome and cool person. Don't make yourself stupid with this nonsense, not worth it.
Zapping belongs to the game. We are lucky that supercell allows us to put our TH outside, this makes it so that we get most of the time just shielded without losing anything. If we would have our TH inside, we would get always looted. So it's kinda a luxe-problem. And really, where we talking about?
You just have to take care you don't break shield if you can't collect the amount of DE you can lose. That's what somebody with townhall inside/outside must do. And I think everyone active in this topic has enough time to do that. ;) or if not, stop wasting your time on this. ;)
Also, TH8s have pretty trouble with 2 starring any TH9. I can tell you.. + those DE armies won't be effective for DE farming. ;)
So now you want to be able to efficiently and effectively raid higher ths? Dont you understand how stupid and greedy that sounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by ironagedave
And I wasnt aware I was playing hay day that I should be able to "trade a bit of elixir to get back my de".
Also if wall breakers were too good at blowing up walls then that would be a perfectly reasonable argument, but in my opinion they are not unbalanced. Zapping on the otherhand is, for reasons you conveniently highlighted in your post that contradict steves statement about it being unprofitable.
My heroes are maxed and I am in 3600+ cups so you can be assured my argument is not a personal one, unlike all the lower ths here that are simply upset about being raided by higher ths, as evident by some of their posts here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Floris2410
The ONLY argument that has been raised that supports zapping is the idea of not being perfectly safe. But as you have noted that is to do with th sniping and is not related to zapping.
Personally I feel the one legitimate response is that zapping is no longer a huge problem (after several nerfs like more storage hp, no loot muliplier for higher ths, more de at lower lvls etc.), and there is no reason for further change. I cannot really counter that, especially since we do not now exactly how many people zap de. That being said, I stand by my orginal statement that it is absurd to claim that its good for the game or that restrcting it would have negative effects. If that wasnt the case there wouldnt have been any nerfs in the past.
OH DEAR Where to start!!!,Quote:
Originally Posted by Gama321
Why shouldn't TH8s have the ability to strike back at TH9 and hurt them??? greed and raiding higher levels is just as much as part of the game as Lightning strikes. What you are vying for is TH8s should not be under any circumstance allowed to attack or better still revenge a higher level - now how stupid does that sound...
Trading Elixr to get back my de is exactly what we do whether it be troops or lightning strikes
Zapping is unprofitable to a large extent eg. 66000 Elixr for 3 lightning strikes for 1.something K in dark elixr plus the money you spend looking for a suitable target, added in with the potential to lose trophies if TH is on the inside and can't be sniped. Therefore it is unprofitable unless you are willing to accept the loss for the limited DE loot.
:facepalm: when did I say they shouldnt be able to raid under any circumstance? You are the one wanting to efficiently farm higher ths here. Training troops and raiding carries risk and stuff. Its stupid to even try to compare it to zapping.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironagedave
Now you claim zapping is inneficient despite italready being more profitable than raiding with troops for you? You keep contradicting yourself.
Hers's a risk involved in zapping, I zapped his storages damn all the DE was in his collectors. You can already farm higher THs this is unchanged. Or here's another risk I zapped him, damn he revenged me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gama321
Like I said it is not necessarily profitable it is whether you are prepared to take the loss for dark elixr some are, some aren't. Profit is a matter of perspective - I fail to see where I have contradicted myself. Not only did I mention the high price in Elixr for DE but also the long wait for spells to brew I would like to add to the list of why it is innefficient.
For me I can raid just as well with my troops than I can with my lightning spells - I alternate between the two as I see fit.
What you are vying for is TH8s should not be under any circumstance allowed to attack or better still revenge a higher level - now how stupid does that sound...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gama321
[QUOTE=Gama321;4207898]:facepalm: when did I say they shouldnt be able to raid under any circumstance? [QUOTE]
No. It's the best feature of the game. De isn't that hard to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by HDFA