Should I FULLY upgrade before TH8, I mean fully? Really?

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October 15th, 2014
Dorcus

Should I FULLY upgrade before TH8, I mean fully? Really?

I keep hearing that TH7 is better for raiding for gold and elixir than TH8.
So fine. I'm almost done with all my gold/elixir upgrades. My walls are almost done.
I'll even fill up my storages before I make the leap so I've got some spending money when I get access to new stuff.

But,
Dark Stuff, really?:confused:

Getting a fully upgraded Barb King plus Minions and Hogs will cost me around 100k in dark elixer.
:eek:
That's a lot.

Is there an advantage to raiding for Dark Junk from TH7?
Or should I go ahead and make the jump up to 8 and use a slightly better army (plus a drill) to earn my Dark Junk upgrades?

Help me Clashers!
October 15th, 2014
katblue

I'd upgrade the BK to level 5 for sure. The other dark stuff i did it but i didnt need them at TH 8. Up to you. EDIT, why upgrade the BK, "IRON FIST" wwwwwwwwhhhhhhhaag!!! Iron Fist isn't available until level five, and its a great ability.
October 15th, 2014
Bwandowando

if you can pull it off then go

Structure-wise, i have only 2 Dark Raxes left and collectors

Lab-wise though, i still have all DE troops, and some spells to go, but i intend to really max out my base including lab researches because during the next few months i wont be able to play much so staying put in TH8 wont stress me out and wont require me to grind the game.

Maybe you can just try it out for the mean time then as you go along you'd know if you can do it or not

(and try dropping by the dedicated TH8 thread in my sig)
October 15th, 2014
Dorcus

Did you KATBLUE?

Did you really raid for 10k+12.5k+15k+17.5k+20k Dark Junk at level 7?
That's a ton!

What league were you in?
October 15th, 2014
katblue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorcus

Did you really raid for 10k+12.5k+15k+17.5k+20k Dark Junk at level 7?
That's a ton!

What league were you in?

I did! Currently I'm TH 9 but before at eight I upgraded everything except Valks (my BK is 10). At TH 7 I upgraded everything possible. I did my regular TH 7 farming at high 1300s using barch. When i was near max I went to 1500 cups because thats where the DE starts to show up. I used dragons to raid for the DE and also used some lightning spells. EDIT: you can see my base if you'd like. Im in Catholic Crew. I just started TH 9 yesterday though so its basically a max TH 8.
October 15th, 2014
Dorcus

Bwandowando, you say g0 8?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bwandowando

Maybe you can just try it out for the mean time then as you go along you'd know if you can do it or not

"Try it out" meaning give TH8 a try. or give raiding for DE a try?
I can get 100k in DE eventually. It'll just take a long dang time.

I have a lvl two barb king now and 10k black junk in the bank, so I've made a dent.
I'm just not sure if there is much advantage to waiting on the TH upgrade.
October 15th, 2014
mrla119

I didn't upgrade my king or de troops at TH7 because it took too long. Go to TH8. You get stronger troops and a drill to help you out.
October 15th, 2014
kristinepixie

max out your TH7 before moving up.

Really.

Seriously.

I mean it.

I moved up to TH8 before just a FEW of my upgrades were finished and OMG, I think I might be TH8 for the next century now because of it. Upgrades are freaking expensive. Stay at TH7, stay at a slightly lower league lvl. Enjoy it while you can.

Also: they say your TH doesnt effect matchup in wars, but ultimately it does. Because when you hit TH8, instead of finishing your upgrades you missed at TH7, you inevitably go for the new available defenses. New defensive structures will effect your war matchup. So there you will sit, a TH8 with more defenses, but fewer upgraded than you should have.

Avoid the temptation, stay at TH7. Finish your upgrades.
October 15th, 2014
andrew1028

Nah. I would get my burger king at a th 7. But I would not upgrade it unless I had some spare de. Dem hunting is not for th 7 and I'd advise wait till th 8
October 15th, 2014
CrossFire

Upgrade to th 8

Cause th 7 de is really hard to get and when you th8 it so easy like you dont even want it
October 15th, 2014
Vilovieta

Go to TH8

Just go to TH8. Its pointless to max out a Th7 completely when a th8 gives you better troops for raiding, gives you a dark drill, and gives you 20 more troops for you to use in your raids. I don't regret it at all. I moved up quicker then my friends who stayed at Th7 and now I'm ahead of them. Max the TH7 Defenses and then start the upgrade to Th8.

If this was a question of whether you should max everything at TH8 before you go to TH9, then I would say STAY at TH8. The transition from 8 to 9 is monumental because Th10's will be attacking you and you get hard war match ups.
October 15th, 2014
TADP0LE

No. I would say do walls and dark troops but DE is a lot easier at th 8 so skip the BK upgrades until then.
October 15th, 2014
Dorcus

Ok I'm Doin' It

Well, I'm mostly hearing what I wanted to.

All my other upgrades except for walls are done.
I'll finish those so I'm all LVL 7 (purple) walls and I'll make the jump.

Then I'll build a dark drill and start upgrading my army so I can raid for Black Junk like a TH8 champ!:cool:
October 16th, 2014
GodII

Absolutely go for it. The loot penalty doesn't really matter for the jump of th 7 - th 8 and it's much easier to farm.
October 16th, 2014
dbolg22

Of Course.

No doubt. Yes. 100%. Do it. You'll be glad you did. :cool:
October 16th, 2014
EliSmith

I'm a complete maxer and I do this because I like the challenge and the respect of being maxed. But I get paired with tough opponents during war because troops levels are used in the match system. If you asked me as an experienced player I would say upgrade what you need only. Don't upgrade collectors at all. It is nice to have extra hit points on the buildings but it has the obvious disadvantages.
October 16th, 2014
LalalaPPP

Well..just got with the flow..its worth it :D:o
October 16th, 2014
jamesserrano9999

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorcus

I keep hearing that TH7 is better for raiding for gold and elixir than TH8.
So fine. I'm almost done with all my gold/elixir upgrades. My walls are almost done.
I'll even fill up my storages before I make the leap so I've got some spending money when I get access to new stuff.

But,
Dark Stuff, really?:confused:

Getting a fully upgraded Barb King plus Minions and Hogs will cost me around 100k in dark elixer.
:eek:
That's a lot.

Is there an advantage to raiding for Dark Junk from TH7?
Or should I go ahead and make the jump up to 8 and use a slightly better army (plus a drill) to earn my Dark Junk upgrades?

Help me Clashers!

Well if you already max your current defenses it is better to go up in th. well it is also comfortable to stay in th8.
since there are a lot of defenses available. de drill
October 16th, 2014
herman2net

just go to th 8 if you got max deff. no point in th 7 for too long. im in th 7 for only 2 weeks and im fine. de drill and lvl 5 barch will REALLY help for your farming. and de hunt. trust me..:)
October 16th, 2014
thelsk

there is no need to fully maxed.
Max elixir troops, splash defenses, almost point defense and a BK (lvl 1 or 2), 1/3 lvl7 walls, that's fine for me.
In TH8, with higher league, it is much easier to farm DE
October 16th, 2014
sheds

I rushed to TH8 from 7 with no BK and 1/2 walls
My collectors were 9
No regrets
Id do it again
October 16th, 2014
lsarofeen

Upgrade everything but DE stuff. Unless you arent anxious about getting to th8 at all it'll cost you tons of elixer and time to get enough DE for those upgrades without spending gems.
October 17th, 2014
jamesserrano9999

upgrade your walls too and defenses.. though i prematurely upgrade to th8. i suggest go upgrade the defenses first before going up.
October 17th, 2014
Ambarish

No just finish your walls and defences and hit the upgrade button.
It really is very easy to farm de at th8 with lvl 5 troops and drill.
I went to th8 with a lvl 2 king and lvl 1 dark troops.. And now i am a maxed th8(except walls) with a lvl 10 king, lvl 2 minions, lvl 4 hogs and golem going to lvl 2.
October 17th, 2014
wahoo3

I went th8 with no DE upgrades and lvl 1 barb king, all else maxed. Was fine no regrets. I maxed bk to 10 while at th8 with no issues.
October 17th, 2014
MaxoutCoC

If can not max TH8 you will never be able to max TH9

TH9

* two wall upgrades lvl9 & 10 ( 1+3 m per wall / 250 walls)
* 30 levels of Queen
* 20 levels of King

Above are the three big ticket items.

TH8

* Lvl 8 walls (.5m per wall / 225 walls)
* 5 levels of king

Think about it.
October 18th, 2014
gambitflash

I skipped all dark elix upgrades at th7.I had king lvl 2 at the start of th8.I didn't even have a dark rax at the beginning.I was maxed on all other things though.
There was zero difference and I am really glad its all working out.
I am mid th8 now,with a king lvl 6.Still putting off de troop upgrades and I just recently made two level 1 dark barracks.Yup I honestly don't care for the de troops.But I will upgrade minion and hogs to lvl 3 but skip last level of hogs and everything else.
I am cool like that and I like how my unique approach is really effective
October 18th, 2014
DarkHero

Yeah, you should. Just max everything at th7 first.
October 18th, 2014
CoCPlayer3574

DE farming is not better at 7. It is far better at 8. Just stating the fact. I didn't even get my king until level 8 and had no DE lab upgrades done. I had all defenses maxed (and I mean maxed) and then I moved on. Did not regret it for a second.
October 18th, 2014
AaidenX

You can farm 100k Dark in 3 days at Crystal 3+ with lightning spells and collector loots..
October 18th, 2014
austintasious

i had L1 mins hogs and bk when i went to TH8
June 6th, 2015
Sandeep0077

my second account is Th7........completely maxed.......walls lvl 7 ......
lab ...........minion lvl2..hogs...lvl2.... elixer troops all lvl 4.........spells lvl 4 ...

bk.....lvl 5 ............

traps maxed too........just enjoying my stay in th7........in no hurry to move to 8............warring and donating troops for my 5th builder......

max everything then move.....it will be fun........
June 6th, 2015
IlDiavolo

When u finish skulls and hero, move on...lab days are much longer at th8.
June 23rd, 2015
HunterDash

DE looting

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorcus

I keep hearing that TH7 is better for raiding for gold and elixir than TH8.
So fine. I'm almost done with all my gold/elixir upgrades. My walls are almost done.
I'll even fill up my storages before I make the leap so I've got some spending money when I get access to new stuff.

But,
Dark Stuff, really?:confused:

Getting a fully upgraded Barb King plus Minions and Hogs will cost me around 100k in dark elixer.
:eek:
That's a lot.

Is there an advantage to raiding for Dark Junk from TH7?
Or should I go ahead and make the jump up to 8 and use a slightly better army (plus a drill) to earn my Dark Junk upgrades?

Help me Clashers!

Hey Dorcus...... I think having lvl 5 barbking is totally worth it and it can be a game changer specially in clan wars if you are paired against a mid lvl th8. I know minions and hogs are not much used compared to drags but even then when you go to th8 you are compelled to use hogs and waiting for it to upgrade take ages (lvl 2 8D and lvl 3 10D) That time will cost you some losses in clan wars and also some valuble time you can spend to gt more important troops like PEKKA. I am myself is almost maxed th7 and only left with some lab stuff, walls, and collectors but still it will take me almost a month to go there without geming it. This is solely because time needed for lab upgrades. But I am hoping to go through with it and planning to upgrade hogs with TH as both take 8 days. It is simply because I hate catching up..

And the other thing is I have barbking who is lvl5 and I found farming DE easy actually. I raided with barbarch and about 10-12 wallbreakers. With occasional help of barbking and lightening...

1. Look for bases which has DE storage in periphery and check how many motors are protecting it.. U will be surprised how many there are with one motor. If u can access it use your army or either use 2 lightening. Even if it has 2 motors protecting it if you can easily gt in to one motor you can lighten the other one.
2. Select the side where DE storage is most accessible and send barbs followed by arch as usual to clear side buldings. While they are taking the heat send the wall breakers. ( Just study a bit how wallbreakers attack so dat they won't do exactly the opposite you want them to do.)
3.Then follow with rest of your army. ( be careful of clan castle troops and surprising teslas)
Having heal spells and barbs are optional but waiting for them to que up take longer time. Use them when u have them but not essential.
4. Go for DE storages 500+
5. Don't forget the drills. Lvl3 full drills will surprise u (The golden colour)
6. If i come across DE storages with 2000+ DE I snipe it with 3 lightening... Usually get me around 900. Sorry guys, i know it is a cheeky way to get it but hard to resist...:D
7. Don't think much about trophies but if u can snipe the TH do it and if your primary aim is done try to get 50%. I loot in gold III and silver I. No issue so far.

I looted 20,000DE in 4hrs with boosted baraks for my barbking....Had a backache but job done...

What I am saying is it is very much possible to loot DE in th7 when you pick the right base. Remember to que up your barracks before go looting so that when you come back you can start again sooner...

I had loads of help fro these forums and youtube to improve and still learning...... Happy clashing:o