Supercell, you are going the wrong way

Supercell,

You're going the wrong way with this game. You keep taking steps to "protect the newer players" and add new high end toys and troops to keep the gemmers gemming, but the game is losing it's appeal to me and many others.

I can forgive the high end stuff as that is where the money comes from and the game needs to be kept fresh with new goals to acheive but it's the steps that you have taken with regards to protecting newer players that has removed a lot of the fun factor from this game. There has been a lot of vocal objection to the changes you have made. You ask for feedback but do not respond adequately to the biggest issues people bring up.

You brought caps into the game to limit the amount of resources that could be taken. Then you instituted penalties and bonuses into the game in regard to attacking a lower or higher TH. Then you expanded those penalties and bonuses. In this last update you have reduced the available loot from storages by 20% unless they have about a million or more in storage! It is clear the direction you are going in and it is not good for the game.

The result of your latest update is that attacking isn't as fun. Attacking is the cornerstone of this game and the most fun aspect of playing. The amount of raidable loot is the primary factor in choosing to attack a base. By making less loot available, you reduce the number of targets to attack. This adds frustration to attacking costing more time and gold to find targets. This game is similar to poker in that it becomes more interesting and fun when more is at stake. The more that a base has to take the more interesting and fun it becomes to attack it.

Because of the way storage loot is calculated you can usually avoid being attacked by having less than 200,000 gold in storage because you are not a target if someone cant even make 40,000 gold from raiding you. So this has created an issue where there are fewer targets worth attacking than before the update when you search for an opponent. The cost of searching is a big drain on individual resources but more importantly on the entire community because it is gold which is removed from the game and therefore it is important to the players to reduce this drain on the entire community.

The game would be much better if there were more targets and more loot available when attacking. It is not a big deal for TH7 and up to lose 100k of resources because they can make that back in an attack or two. These levels should not need to have 500,000 in storage to have 100,000 exposed for the taking. Make it 50% of storage up to 200,000 then reduce it to 20% up to 700,000 to achieve your maximum of 200,000. This would create many more targets worth attacking and greatly reduce the annoyance of searching and the drain of gold on the players.

Also I think higher caps should exist for TH8 & 9s. They should have an opportunity to play for higher stakes as the more advanced levels of the game and they also need the resources with the much higher upgrade costs. Increasing the raidable storage caps to 250,000 for TH8(which would be achieved at 950,000+ per my calculations above) and 300,000 for TH9(at 1.2 million+) would make the game more enjoyable on attack and not add much pain on defense since it would be easier to make it back. It is difficult to get all four storages on a TH9 so they would rarely lose the max.

Get the leagues figured out quick. They are an embarrassment for the most part. You need a structure where you remain in a group for the entire 2 weeks, no moving up or down until it's over. You compete with those in your group for rewards at the end of two weeks(GEMS!). The best way to do it would be to allow the player to attack everyone in his group once (similar to a revenge). Add up the stars from the attacks within your group and those with the most stars at the end of the 2 weeks win the prizes(hopefully 1st, 2nd, 3rd). Also you need to increase the pathetic bonus given out at the low and middle leagues. Give back the experience levels which should have never been removed. People are proud of the levels they have earned and deserve it displayed. Not to mention it is more useful information than league or trophy #.

Your updates keep taking the game in the wrong direction. More loot needs to be made available for raiding not less to keep the fun factor in this game. Another thread discussed the poor balance in terms of time needed to make troops which causes people to use the same basic troops 99% of the time and how it gets boring and old. There should be better options for variety in army composition. I thought DE troops would help in this area but they have been disappointing for the most part. The way you are taking this game is making me look for other options to spend my time and money on. I'm sure I'm not alone. I will be here until the next update to see how you respond to the chorus of complaints but that may be the end of the road.

Except that i think minions and the golem are awesome, i agree with the rest of this post. Well written and captures my sentiments exactly.

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Originally Posted by sandiego

Supercell,

You're going the wrong way with this game. You keep taking steps to "protect the newer players" and add new high end toys and troops to keep the gemmers gemming, but the game is losing it's appeal to me and many others.

it's the steps that you have taken with regards to protecting newer players that has removed a lot of the fun factor from this game.

TRUE, BUT NOT LIKE YOU THINK.

You brought caps into the game to limit the amount of resources that could be taken. Then you instituted penalties and bonuses into the game in regard to attacking a lower or higher TH. Then you expanded those penalties and bonuses. In this last update you have reduced the available loot from storages by 20% unless they have about a million or more in storage!

CAPS DON'T WORK. I GET THE SAME PLAYERS ATTACKING ME 4 TIMES IN 4 MINUTES. A SERIES OF ATTACKS WIPES ME OUT WHENEVER I'M OFF-LINE. EVERY TIME I'M OFF-LINE.

The result of your latest update is that attacking isn't as fun. Attacking is the cornerstone of this game and the most fun aspect of playing. The amount of raidable loot is the primary factor in choosing to attack a base. By making less loot available, you reduce the number of targets to attack.

NO, YOUR FARMING STRATEGY IS KILLING THE GAME. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BEING YOUR ELIXIR COW. THE MORE YOU RIP ME OFF, THE LESS I WANT TO PLAY AT ALL.

Because of the way storage loot is calculated you can usually avoid being attacked by having less than 200,000 gold in storage because you are not a target if someone cant even make 40,000 gold from raiding you. So this has created an issue where there are fewer targets worth attacking than before the update when you search for an opponent.

FALSE. I AM CONSTANTLY ATTACKED, AND I CAN'T HOPE TO SAVE MORE THAN 60k OF COIN OR ELIXIR BEFORE IT GETS RIPPED OFF.
THERE ARE FEWER TARGETS BECAUSE WE ARE LEAVING THE GAME.

The game would be much better if there were more targets and more loot available when attacking.

WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO START OR KEEP PLAYING IF IT GETS THEM NONSTOP ATTENTION FROM KNOBS LIKE YOU?

Your updates keep taking the game in the wrong direction. More loot needs to be made available for raiding not less to keep the fun factor in this game.

YOU JUST KEEP ON KILLING THE GOOSE THAT LAYS THE GOLDEN EGGS THERE, BRAINIAC.
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Supercell, you need to do more to match people up properly. I'm sick of buttock-hats like this guy; you've done enough to annoy him and others like him, but not nearly enough to protect me and people like me.

I give you one week to see if things settle at all. If not, killing both my games.

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Originally Posted by Gr0g

Supercell, you need to do more to match people up properly. I'm sick of buttock-hats like this guy; you've done enough to annoy him and others like him, but not nearly enough to protect me and people like me.

I give you one week to see if things settle at all. If not, killing both my games.

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You haven't grasped the basic strategies within the game yet if you are having problems with people attacking you multiple times while you are logged out and losing lots of resources such that you can't make progress. What town hall level are you?

Well I just took 135k gold from some guy, 5th push so I'm happy.

I think what Gr0g is trying to say is that it is important to protect newer players because people also get frustrated when they get raided all the time. Losing resources always hurts more than failing to gain them. The loot caps are intended to prevent people from getting frustrated from getting raided all the time and quitting the game. Remember, not everyone is a farmer. Your loot has to come from someone, and those are the people that need to be prevented from quitting.

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Originally Posted by sandiego

You haven't grasped the basic strategies within the game yet if you are having problems with people attacking you multiple times while you are logged out and losing lots of resources such that you can't make progress. What town hall level are you?

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I'm guessing a premature TH8 with gold and black walls.

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Daddy

Well I just took 135k gold from some guy, 5th push so I'm happy.

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I hear what you're saying. Each individual will have a unique experience. I've had some great times in the last few days too. But the trend is clear. It's different now. The best attacks are ghost villages, nothing in storages. My personal experience is the game has taken a hit with the last update. Not as fun.

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Originally Posted by sandiego

You haven't grasped the basic strategies within the game yet if you are having problems with people attacking you multiple times while you are logged out and losing lots of resources such that you can't make progress. What town hall level are you?

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TH 6.

Got 400+ trophies dumped on me in the past week. Tried dumping off myself, couldn't keep up.
Can't save enough at a time to upgrade any defenses, or buy any new ones. Okay, I can upgrade 3-5 bricks at a time, from Level 3 to level 4. When I'm lucky.

It's not my basic strategy that's at fault. Not when I went from a handful of attacks once in a while to non-stop attacks and being farmed into the ground, literally overnight and coincident with the update.

No gold walls. Before I upgraded to TH 6, I got all my defenses bought & maxed out their upgrades. All of them.

It's the non-stop attacks. Suddenly the matching system is serving me up to players well above my level. And did you see the part where I said somehow I was being attacked by the same player, 3-4 times in 3-4 minutes. This isn't rare, it happens every time I go off line for any length of time.

I understand what you are saying there are quite a lot of ghost villages. If it helps you the bubble for loot seems to be 1400-1500 right now

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Originally Posted by sandiego

I hear what you're saying. Each individual will have a unique experience. I've had some great times in the last few days too. But the trend is clear. It's different now. The best attacks are ghost villages, nothing in storages. My personal experience is the game has taken a hit with the last update. Not as fun.

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Candy Crush Saga being #1 Top Grossing game is a slap to the face Supercell. You know YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING wrong.

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Originally Posted by Gr0g

TH 6.

Got 400+ trophies dumped on me in the past week. Tried dumping off myself, couldn't keep up.
Can't save enough at a time to upgrade any defenses, or buy any new ones. Okay, I can upgrade 3-5 bricks at a time, from Level 3 to level 4. When I'm lucky.

It's not my basic strategy that's at fault. Not when I went from a handful of attacks once in a while to non-stop attacks and being farmed into the ground, literally overnight and coincident with the update.

No gold walls. Before I upgraded to TH 6, I got all my defenses bought & maxed out their upgrades. All of them.

It's the non-stop attacks. Suddenly the matching system is serving me up to players well above my level. And did you see the part where I said somehow I was being attacked by the same player, 3-4 times in 3-4 minutes. This isn't rare, it happens every time I go off line for any length of time.

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The "tactics strategies and questions" section of these forums is a great place for advice. Go there and post a pic of your base. Ask about attack strategies. People are generally more respectful there if you ask for advice. Complaining over here just gets you insults.

yeah the loot is harder to find but I still managed to get 2mil to upgrade dragons and countless gold to pay for tesla upgrades, it just takes an extra dozen or so searches and more thought when attacking. adapt or quit.

I agree with what you (creator of the thread) said! For me nothing changed actually but I understand that u are mad! People that are having difficulties in the game contact me by PM (I'm not a boss but looks like I'm the only guy that really wants to help and that thinks that complaining doesn't result!). Tell me your clan and in-game name (so that I can check u obviously :p) and your army composition and I'll try and help you out!

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Originally Posted by RegaliaRemix

Candy Crush Saga being #1 Top Grossing game is a slap to the face Supercell. You know YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING wrong.

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Looks like they are doing things right again, back at the top spot.

You do realize that gem purchases as well as other in-app purchases for other games fluctuate from time to time right?

Clash of clans was never the undisputed top grossing app, sometimes it ranks behind candy crush, or even the chinese game. But generally, most of the time, CoC is top.

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Originally Posted by Daddy

I understand what you are saying there are quite a lot of ghost villages. If it helps you the bubble for loot seems to be 1400-1500 right now

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I'm all over it. I've had great success last few days at certain times of the day and terrible luck other times however.

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Originally Posted by ChaoticNight

yeah the loot is harder to find but I still managed to get 2mil to upgrade dragons and countless gold to pay for tesla upgrades, it just takes an extra dozen or so searches and more thought when attacking. adapt or quit.

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It takes more searching and more attacking to achieve the same results equals less fun to me.
Often it seems i'm just searching for ghost villiages to plunder.

fails in the start of this thread... i don't feel like reading it because of them... stuf like you saying they reduced the loot with 20% unless they have a million gold... thats not true they reduced it by 5% and the 1 million is just where the marker says stop don't give out more loot from the storages, that means for someone to steal 200k from your storages you now have to have 1M+ resources where it was "only" 800k before the update

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Originally Posted by sandiego

Get the leagues figured out quick. They are an embarrassment for the most part. You need a structure where you remain in a group for the entire 2 weeks, no moving up or down until it's over. You compete with those in your group for rewards at the end of two weeks(GEMS!). The best way to do it would be to allow the player to attack everyone in his group once (similar to a revenge). Add up the stars from the attacks within your group and those with the most stars at the end of the 2 weeks win the prizes(hopefully 1st, 2nd, 3rd). Also you need to increase the pathetic bonus given out at the low and middle leagues. Give back the experience levels which should have never been removed. People are proud of the levels they have earned and deserve it displayed. Not to mention it is more useful information than league or trophy #.

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This ^
im going to be level 70 in 2 days and no one will know. :(
Adding up stars from attacking other players in your league and/or random players will encourage more players to win, which leads to trophy hunting, and a possibility that more people will be gems to get to the top of their league. And for winning the league, how about:

100 gems for 3rd.
200 gems for 2nd
300 gems for 1st.

^ It'll also be higher than that for higher leagues.(Maybe, just maybe. C'mon Supercell!)

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Originally Posted by TheLastClan

fails in the start of this thread... i don't feel like reading it because of them... stuf like you saying they reduced the loot with 20% unless they have a million gold... thats not true they reduced it by 5% and the 1 million is just where the marker says stop don't give out more loot from the storages, that means for someone to steal 200k from your storages you now have to have 1M+ resources where it was "only" 800k before the update

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Unless the player has more than 800,000 of a resource in storage the available amount to raid has been decreased by 20%. Only those with over 1,000,000 in storage will have no reduction with the new update. These are the facts. I'm saying they should have made more loot available, not decreased it. I think they are going in the wrong direction with these updates. I'm enjoying the game less.

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Originally Posted by sandiego

Unless the player has more than 800,000 of a resource in storage the available amount to raid has been decreased by 20%. Only those with over 1,000,000 in storage will have no reduction with the new update. These are the facts. I'm saying they should have made more loot available, not decreased it. I think they are going in the wrong direction with these updates. I'm enjoying the game less.

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You're ignoring loot from mines/collectors, which remain unchanged, and should increase now that upgrade times have been reduced. Give it time.

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Originally Posted by BaMiao

You're ignoring loot from mines/collectors, which remain unchanged, and should increase now that upgrade times have been reduced. Give it time.

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I'm not ignoring it. It is the reason so many of my attacks are on ghost bases. While it is profitable, it isn't as fun as trying to rip through defenses to get to storages.

This sounds like another "IM A FARMER AND ITS HARD TO FARM THE WEAK NOW.......GIVE US MORE LOOT" ♥♥. I find GREAT loot from 1800 trophies and up. I find it sad that people with max defences and troops drop to 1200 to farm for walls. Then when loot changes (which it should, to keep new players playing) they come crying on here.

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Originally Posted by kevster

This sounds like another "IM A FARMER AND ITS HARD TO FARM THE WEAK NOW.......GIVE US MORE LOOT" ♥♥. I find GREAT loot from 1800 trophies and up. I find it sad that people with max defences and troops drop to 1200 to farm for walls. Then when loot changes (which it should, to keep new players playing) they come crying on here.

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That's the way life goes. Whiners gonna whine.

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Originally Posted by MasterHPotter

That's the way life goes. Whiners gonna whine.

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yup...they failed to see that SC is trying to end farming, becasuse with farming......new players quit. SC needs to constant influx of people or the game will eventually die. I almost quit when they had their previous matching system. TH6 (me) being matched with a max defence player? umm ya, no thanks. Thankfully now I can hold up to the big guys (some of the time lol) i dont care. But having a player who can easily maintane 2000+ trophies drop to 1000 to farm? of course that will make the newbies quit. There goes SC potential new gem buyers.

This thread seems to be everywhere. I raid alot throughout the day like alot of ppl here and for the first week or so farming was definitely harder. But imo its been alot better lately and business as usual.

Instead of strictly increasing the bonuses, I think taking away all the bonuses at the lower and mid levels and increasing it alot at the higher levels such as 2000+ ( just throwing out random range) would move alot of the big farmers up alot and let the newbies fight it out at the bottom. Of course how much the increase in the bonus would be tricky.

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Originally Posted by kevster

This sounds like another "IM A FARMER AND ITS HARD TO FARM THE WEAK NOW.......GIVE US MORE LOOT" ♥♥. I find GREAT loot from 1800 trophies and up. I find it sad that people with max defences and troops drop to 1200 to farm for walls. Then when loot changes (which it should, to keep new players playing) they come crying on here.

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I have hang out at 1800-2000 trophies but there were few bases with enough loot worth attacking that weren't TH9. Maybe it's better now? It has gotten tough going after decent TH9s as a TH8. I'm back at 1300-1500 because there is better loot and I get few attacks on me. It just makes sense to me not to swim against the current by increasing trophies and making the game more frustrating.

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Originally Posted by kevster

yup...they failed to see that SC is trying to end farming, becasuse with farming......new players quit. SC needs to constant influx of people or the game will eventually die. I almost quit when they had their previous matching system. TH6 (me) being matched with a max defence player? umm ya, no thanks. Thankfully now I can hold up to the big guys (some of the time lol) i dont care. But having a player who can easily maintane 2000+ trophies drop to 1000 to farm? of course that will make the newbies quit. There goes SC potential new gem buyers.

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How many max level players attack town hall level sixes?

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Originally Posted by Gr0g

Supercell, you need to do more to match people up properly. I'm sick of buttock-hats like this guy; you've done enough to annoy him and others like him, but not nearly enough to protect me and people like me.

I give you one week to see if things settle at all. If not, killing both my games.

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Farming is keeping the game going.Think yourself lucky you have loot caps now.When I started there where none,but I didn't cry about losing gold to high lvl players.To think you came out with i can't hold more gold then 60k,my little girl has abase at town hall 7 and constantly raids people for good loot,her stores are always full she gets raided once twice a day ,but makes it back in few raids.Either your just telling fibs,are your really bad at playing this game.laughable you should join my little girls clan she might give you some tips on being a decent player.

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Originally Posted by Gr0g

Supercell, you need to do more to match people up properly. I'm sick of buttock-hats like this guy; you've done enough to annoy him and others like him, but not nearly enough to protect me and people like me.

I give you one week to see if things settle at all. If not, killing both my games.

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Both games?? Why do you have two when you can't handle one.

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Originally Posted by badnoybubbie

Farming is keeping the game going.Think yourself lucky you have loot caps now.When I started there where none,but I didn't cry about losing gold to high lvl players.To think you came out with i can't hold more gold then 60k,my little girl has abase at town hall 7 and constantly raids people for good loot,her stores are always full she gets raided once twice a day ,but makes it back in few raids.Either your just telling fibs,are your really bad at playing this game.laughable you should join my little girls clan she might give you some tips on being a decent player.

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Agree 100% with this ^^. People complaining about SC not doing enough to protect "me and people like me" are what got SC to reduce the loot percentages.

Stop with the horrible updates!

Am I the only that is thinking boo ♥♥♥♥ing hoo
We all started with nothing and slowly built our base. I'm th7 and get completely wiped out and lose over 150k of both. So what if that happens I know that when I go attacking I get that back and more. And when I eventually get to th9 I look forward to the days of farming and scoring big hits with a big army.
This game is about attacking and defending, if your ♥♥♥♥ at working out how to attack different bases and is always getting raided then its time to find a new game and stop crying it.

I made the mistake of going to town hall 9 too early, my troops are maxed out and i love to attack, so i thought no biggie will attack and continue my upgrades... Well apart from 3 hours on Sunday night where i swear the old calculations were in play and i looted enough gold to start 1 xbow... I have given up on the 2nd xbow, and have built what I could as i had some resources saved.

I gave up on level 6 troops after 4 days at 3 million elixer... And started research on a troop that i don't use.. I thank the developers as i upgrade my collectors now as i can make 420k of each when they hit max level...

i have had 2 clan mates that i begged to wait and not upgrade to townhall 9 proceed, an now they ride shield as i do...i dont understand the penalties... As i hit townhall 9 hours after last update... I have level 5 troops, i net around 30,000 of each after i rebuild troops and spells... I truly believe that the people finding great loot are pre update townhall 9 people that utilize their level6 troops and steam roll us newbies... And I don't blame them for that...

Anyways sorry for rambling, i love the game, and have spent some dollars... Not a lot... And you won't notice if people like me leave.. I just feel that it is unfair to protect townhall 8 from townhall 9s a strong 8 is stronger than i am, and can revenge... I also believe that amateur players like myself give others someone to attack... And if you want the cool new toys as a new Townhall 9 you either play for 24 hours per day or buy your toys... Or like me treat it like farmville and watch what you have disappear.

So in closing, upgrade everything before townhall upgrades and the game is more enjoyable, don't make the mistake that i made as the game is not much fun any longer.

I hope that there are changes, if not, wouldn't it be a shame if you had to wait for an hour for a match at trophy level 1645?

Take care all,

Koth

Everyone we need to urge supercell to save the level and get read of that trophy avatar next to your name. It's nicer to have a level next to your name then some trophy statue

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Originally Posted by Benson

Am I the only that is thinking boo ♥♥♥♥ing hoo
We all started with nothing and slowly built our base. I'm th7 and get completely wiped out and lose over 150k of both. So what if that happens I know that when I go attacking I get that back and more. And when I eventually get to th9 I look forward to the days of farming and scoring big hits with a big army.
This game is about attacking and defending, if your ♥♥♥♥ at working out how to attack different bases and is always getting raided then its time to find a new game and stop crying it.

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This... people cry way way way too much.

Play the damn game and realise Supercell is a business, nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Benson

Am I the only that is thinking boo ♥♥♥♥ing hoo
We all started with nothing and slowly built our base. I'm th7 and get completely wiped out and lose over 150k of both. So what if that happens I know that when I go attacking I get that back and more. And when I eventually get to th9 I look forward to the days of farming and scoring big hits with a big army.
This game is about attacking and defending, if your ♥♥♥♥ at working out how to attack different bases and is always getting raided then its time to find a new game and stop crying it.

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Exactly! I would not mind losing 2 or 3 or even 4 hundred thousand if I can score big hits when attacking and make it back quickly. This would be much more fun with bigger loot in play. Certainly at TH 8 and 9 people shouldn't need to be protected from anybody. Raise the percentage to increase the fun factor.

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Originally Posted by sandiego

Supercell,

You're going the wrong way with this game. You keep taking steps to "protect the newer players" and add new high end toys and troops to keep the gemmers gemming, but the game is losing it's appeal to me and many others.

I can forgive the high end stuff as that is where the money comes from and the game needs to be kept fresh with new goals to acheive but it's the steps that you have taken with regards to protecting newer players that has removed a lot of the fun factor from this game. There has been a lot of vocal objection to the changes you have made. You ask for feedback but do not respond adequately to the biggest issues people bring up.

You brought caps into the game to limit the amount of resources that could be taken. Then you instituted penalties and bonuses into the game in regard to attacking a lower or higher TH. Then you expanded those penalties and bonuses. In this last update you have reduced the available loot from storages by 20% unless they have about a million or more in storage! It is clear the direction you are going in and it is not good for the game.

The result of your latest update is that attacking isn't as fun. Attacking is the cornerstone of this game and the most fun aspect of playing. The amount of raidable loot is the primary factor in choosing to attack a base. By making less loot available, you reduce the number of targets to attack. This adds frustration to attacking costing more time and gold to find targets. This game is similar to poker in that it becomes more interesting and fun when more is at stake. The more that a base has to take the more interesting and fun it becomes to attack it.

Because of the way storage loot is calculated you can usually avoid being attacked by having less than 200,000 gold in storage because you are not a target if someone cant even make 40,000 gold from raiding you. So this has created an issue where there are fewer targets worth attacking than before the update when you search for an opponent. The cost of searching is a big drain on individual resources but more importantly on the entire community because it is gold which is removed from the game and therefore it is important to the players to reduce this drain on the entire community.

The game would be much better if there were more targets and more loot available when attacking. It is not a big deal for TH7 and up to lose 100k of resources because they can make that back in an attack or two. These levels should not need to have 500,000 in storage to have 100,000 exposed for the taking. Make it 50% of storage up to 200,000 then reduce it to 20% up to 700,000 to achieve your maximum of 200,000. This would create many more targets worth attacking and greatly reduce the annoyance of searching and the drain of gold on the players.

Also I think higher caps should exist for TH8 & 9s. They should have an opportunity to play for higher stakes as the more advanced levels of the game and they also need the resources with the much higher upgrade costs. Increasing the raidable storage caps to 250,000 for TH8(which would be achieved at 950,000+ per my calculations above) and 300,000 for TH9(at 1.2 million+) would make the game more enjoyable on attack and not add much pain on defense since it would be easier to make it back. It is difficult to get all four storages on a TH9 so they would rarely lose the max.

Get the leagues figured out quick. They are an embarrassment for the most part. You need a structure where you remain in a group for the entire 2 weeks, no moving up or down until it's over. You compete with those in your group for rewards at the end of two weeks(GEMS!). The best way to do it would be to allow the player to attack everyone in his group once (similar to a revenge). Add up the stars from the attacks within your group and those with the most stars at the end of the 2 weeks win the prizes(hopefully 1st, 2nd, 3rd). Also you need to increase the pathetic bonus given out at the low and middle leagues. Give back the experience levels which should have never been removed. People are proud of the levels they have earned and deserve it displayed. Not to mention it is more useful information than league or trophy #.

Your updates keep taking the game in the wrong direction. More loot needs to be made available for raiding not less to keep the fun factor in this game. Another thread discussed the poor balance in terms of time needed to make troops which causes people to use the same basic troops 99% of the time and how it gets boring and old. There should be better options for variety in army composition. I thought DE troops would help in this area but they have been disappointing for the most part. The way you are taking this game is making me look for other options to spend my time and money on. I'm sure I'm not alone. I will be here until the next update to see how you respond to the chorus of complaints but that may be the end of the road.

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I completely agree with everything you said in this post. Hopefully they will hear you (us) and make the changes people are waiting and asking for.

Also we all came up through the ranks to this point (TH1 - TH9) upgrading, looting and leveling up with no problems. I dont know why you (SC) had to fix something that was not broken.

I will be waiting to see what course of action is taken on the next upgrade and will base my decision on whether or not I will continue to play and pay for this game.

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Originally Posted by radar

I completely agree with everything you said in this post. Hopefully they will hear you (us) and make the changes people are waiting and asking for.

Also we all came up through the ranks to this point (TH1 - TH9) upgrading, looting and leveling up with no problems. I dont know why you (SC) had to fix something that was not broken.

I will be waiting to see what course of action is taken on the next upgrade and will base my decision on whether or not I will continue to play and pay for this game.

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Everyone we need to urge supercell to save the level and get read of that trophy avatar next to your name. It's nicer to have a level next to your name then some trophy statue

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Everyone we need to urge Supercell to increase loot availability by increasing league bonuses, and to remove levels from the game entirely.

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Everyone we need to urge Supercell to increase loot availability by increasing league bonuses, and to remove levels from the game entirely.

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Everyone we need to urge Supercell to increase goat availability by increasing farm sizes and to remove 2-3 digit EPEEN numbers from the game entirely.

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Farming is keeping the game going.Think yourself lucky you have loot caps now.When I started there where none,but I didn't cry about losing gold to high lvl players.To think you came out with i can't hold more gold then 60k,my little girl has abase at town hall 7 and constantly raids people for good loot,her stores are always full she gets raided once twice a day ,but makes it back in few raids.Either your just telling fibs,are your really bad at playing this game.laughable you should join my little girls clan she might give you some tips on being a decent player.

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What a load of ♥♥! You farmers think too much of yourselves. I don't claim to know what SC had in mind when they started the game but I like to believe (as I believed when I started) that SC intended this to be a competitive war game with people fighting to win. You farmers have had it your way for too long, ♥♥♥♥♥ing your way to the bottom of the pile to kill easy targets just so that you can pretend that you could really climb to the top and stay at the top if you could only just get moar walls and upgrades from the easy pickings. Newsflash, it's not that easy anymore! So why don't you try to be competitive for awhile, too busy being spoonfed the slop down there? You want me to chew that for you son? For the first time in a long time this game actually feels like it's worth winning rather than trying to build a nice pretty little city with minimum competitiveness.
Please SC keep it going this way, although the farmers may be more voracious on the forums (as most people that demand everything for free in society tend to be) there are a lot of players that are enjoying the challenge. If a small donation is required every now and again to keep up then so be it.
One final note: Farming is definitely NOT keeping the game going, if everyone had been playing for free SC would not have continued updating the game (for better or worse) and there would be a lot less publicity, enthusiasm for the game and in turn a much smaller player base. Hate on, I'm off to challenge myself and TRY to kill people on my war game, your QQ doesn't count =]

hmm if only being at the top cost a small donation to supercell. Perhaps you do not realize the cost involved...This game has little strategy and rewards the people willing to pay. Gemming attacks is fun, I mean really fun, just it costs a lot. Hundreds of dollars a month, for a game is not fun to me. Why get mad at people for wanting a fun and free game. Most farmers have spent some money on the game, so while you talk about enjoying the challenge etc. some would rather upgrade things sometime this century without spending a months pay. I recently started to farm dropping from 3200 cups, my base is maxxed except new upgrades, walls and heroes. At higher cup levels it is impossible to upgrade things, let alone get enough resources to raid. How does that make sense? Want to kill farming: make loot bonuses for attacking th 9 with more cups. If there was more resources available, I would gem my way back up to 3000 cups right now. However, there is not. It is harder to take resources from upgraded bases, so why would I do that when I can attack easy bases for the same amount of loot?

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hmm if only being at the top cost a small donation to supercell. Perhaps you do not realize the cost involved...This game has little strategy and rewards the people willing to pay. Gemming attacks is fun, I mean really fun, just it costs a lot. Hundreds of dollars a month, for a game is not fun to me. Why get mad at people for wanting a fun and free game. Most farmers have spent some money on the game, so while you talk about enjoying the challenge etc. some would rather upgrade things sometime this century without spending a months pay. I recently started to farm dropping from 3200 cups, my base is maxxed except new upgrades, walls and heroes. At higher cup levels it is impossible to upgrade things, let alone get enough resources to raid. How does that make sense? Want to kill farming: make loot bonuses for attacking th 9 with more cups. If there was more resources available, I would gem my way back up to 3000 cups right now. However, there is not. It is harder to take resources from upgraded bases, so why would I do that when I can attack easy bases for the same amount of loot?

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Hello Archaon, I understand the cost of course I do, as my iTunes account shows. But you misunderstand my play style. I work a lot so I don't tend to gem troop building, I have no problem with gemming resources, build times and new toys though. I think the costs are excessive and increasing with every update but I don't complain or whine on the forums about it I just don't spend over what I consider reasonable. I think this is pretty much the same for the majority of people that purchase gems (maybe not the same reasons but with the same limits of spending). Anyone that overspends has only themselves to blame and shouldn't complain about it. In comparison to the people that want everything spoonfed to them they are a minority. I just can't understand why people think that the game is enjoyable or competitive by losing intentionally and spoiling newer player's games. So they want their town looking pretty sometime this century, why? What's the point if they jut want to say "hey look at how maxxed my base is. I don't do anything with it apart from smash new player bases though!" It's all about peen over pixels instead of competitive FAIR fun. It's a part and parcel of life, people should challenge themselves instead of playing heavyweight boxer v welterweight.

I like the way SC have reintroduced that feeling of competitiveness, if someone has too much time on their hands and aren't gaining the rewards they deserve then maybe they should try harder instead of whining and crying for handouts.

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What a load of ♥♥! You farmers think too much of yourselves. I don't claim to know what SC had in mind when they started the game but I like to believe (as I believed when I started) that SC intended this to be a competitive war game with people fighting to win. You farmers have had it your way for too long, ♥♥♥♥♥ing your way to the bottom of the pile to kill easy targets just so that you can pretend that you could really climb to the top and stay at the top if you could only just get moar walls and upgrades from the easy pickings. Newsflash, it's not that easy anymore! So why don't you try to be competitive for awhile, too busy being spoonfed the slop down there? You want me to chew that for you son? For the first time in a long time this game actually feels like it's worth winning rather than trying to build a nice pretty little city with minimum competitiveness.
Please SC keep it going this way, although the farmers may be more voracious on the forums (as most people that demand everything for free in society tend to be) there are a lot of players that are enjoying the challenge. If a small donation is required every now and again to keep up then so be it.
One final note: Farming is definitely NOT keeping the game going, if everyone had been playing for free SC would not have continued updating the game (for better or worse) and there would be a lot less publicity, enthusiasm for the game and in turn a much smaller player base. Hate on, I'm off to challenge myself and TRY to kill people on my war game, your QQ doesn't count =]

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I'm sorry, I couldn't understand what point you were trying to make under all your vitriol. It sounded like want Supercell to make it so players had to pay ("required donations) to advance just because that's something farmers wouldn't like that, but that.. really stupid.. So I don't think that's right.

People saying the update was about making it easier for starting players are ignoring most of what has been said on the forums recently. The lowered percentage that could be stolen from storage is only a small part of the loot reduction, mostly it came from making inactive accounts many times less common to find when searching. The result is that active low level players are getting hit a lot harder and have a lot harder time finding targets to make it up on. That is the exact opposite of what it was supposed to be about.

I play CoC for only one reason, it is a combat based game where when you defeat someone they actually feel it. If there are no stakes on the table you might as well play farmville. As for someone complaining about getting hit repeatedly as soon as they log off, I have to wonder just where they are getting enough resources that they have enough to prompt four attacks one after the other after they have done any spending they could do while online. And how it would even be possible to build your base so badly that people can easily take all your resources without even doing 40% damage.

The game took a bad turn with the introduction of DE. As most agree it was a complete money grab. Not enough drills with the production times they allow. Max drill lvl 3 for TH8 and you only get one????? This should be obvious to all...supercell wants you at TH9 no matter what. Smart non gemming or semi gemming players suck it up and stick with the plan. Unfortunately the plan is forcing you to gem....and the writing is on the wall. Hence the drop from the #1 spot.

It's obvious the majority of money spent came from normal players not the gemmers. The fall from the #1 spot on iTunes tells you that.

Until supercell can find the balance the game will continue to drop. Every update including DE update has been a step backwards for the majority of players.

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I'm sorry, I couldn't understand what point you were trying to make under all your vitriol. It sounded like want Supercell to make it so players had to pay ("required donations) to advance just because that's something farmers wouldn't like that, but that.. really stupid.. So I don't think that's right.

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Vitriol, I like that. It's justified but hey I don't like farmers that take cheap shots at low level players knowing full well that there will be no payback. I see it as a form of online bullying that dissuades new players from sticking around and having fun. The game is a pay by choice game so no I don't think farmers should be forced to pay, I also think that they shouldn't be allowed to have free rein at ruining every newer or weaker player just so that they can look at a pretty town with high level troops that are never put to good use. I tried farming once but when it occurred to me how the lower level players on the receiving end of my attacks must feel my conscience wouldn't allow me to continue. I'm not forcing my morals onto anyone else (although if you look at society this has been going on for years for the betterment of mankind and the human race as a whole) but I'm entitled to my opinion and my opinion I will state, like it or lump it. My main point was that farmers are ruining the game for the majority of players and SC have taken steps to stop that. You all had your exploitative run but now the game is up, adapt and quit whining. As you farmers love to quote: Find your natural trophy level and things will be easy enough. Well now you can! It'll just be higher than where you're all hiding at the moment while taking candy from the babies =]

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People saying the update was about making it easier for starting players are ignoring most of what has been said on the forums recently. The lowered percentage that could be stolen from storage is only a small part of the loot reduction, mostly it came from making inactive accounts many times less common to find when searching. The result is that active low level players are getting hit a lot harder and have a lot harder time finding targets to make it up on. That is the exact opposite of what it was supposed to be about.

I play CoC for only one reason, it is a combat based game where when you defeat someone they actually feel it. If there are no stakes on the table you might as well play farmville. As for someone complaining about getting hit repeatedly as soon as they log off, I have to wonder just where they are getting enough resources that they have enough to prompt four attacks one after the other after they have done any spending they could do while online. And how it would even be possible to build your base so badly that people can easily take all your resources without even doing 40% damage.

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You sir have it 100% correct in my opinion. You can bet that around half of those inactive players that were removed left the game because they never had a fair shot at standing a chance due to the higher level farmers abusing the matchmaking system. +1

@ Deathknell, I was under the impression I was disagreeing with you when I wrote that. Without farming inactive accounts and people who are offline longer than their collectors would store anyways players would be limited to an average income of no more than their collectors can produce unless they were willing to gem resources, which would be pretty boring. Sure the better players would come out ahead, but it would really be hard on the less experienced, and as they quit it would soon come down to only the pros. I saw that happen on another game I used to play that no longer exists.

I was willing to pay for my fourth and fifth builders, and if I was the sort of person who spent lots on games I might be willing to gem upgrade and build times on occasion, but no way would I ever gem resources, and the game would just get boring if I couldn't get enough resources otherwise to keep my builders going. I suspect a lot of people feel the same way, and if the farmers weren't constantly bringing in loot from inactive players and shifting it upwards as they raid each other I think CoC would rapidly lose both player base and income. That's my two cents worth.

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What a load of ♥♥! You farmers think too much of yourselves. I don't claim to know what SC had in mind when they started the game but I like to believe (as I believed when I started) that SC intended this to be a competitive war game with people fighting to win. You farmers have had it your way for too long, ♥♥♥♥♥ing your way to the bottom of the pile to kill easy targets just so that you can pretend that you could really climb to the top and stay at the top if you could only just get moar walls and upgrades from the easy pickings. Newsflash, it's not that easy anymore! So why don't you try to be competitive for awhile, too busy being spoonfed the slop down there? You want me to chew that for you son? For the first time in a long time this game actually feels like it's worth winning rather than trying to build a nice pretty little city with minimum competitiveness.
Please SC keep it going this way, although the farmers may be more voracious on the forums (as most people that demand everything for free in society tend to be) there are a lot of players that are enjoying the challenge. If a small donation is required every now and again to keep up then so be it.
One final note: Farming is definitely NOT keeping the game going, if everyone had been playing for free SC would not have continued updating the game (for better or worse) and there would be a lot less publicity, enthusiasm for the game and in turn a much smaller player base. Hate on, I'm off to challenge myself and TRY to kill people on my war game, your QQ doesn't count =]

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I look forward to seeing your base, which is built by using trophy instead of resources since you don't farm, on my daily raids.

Oh, and just so you know, farmers are more than capable of taking on any high level village with top tier troops. In fact, our constant search for resources in collectors or storages had made us so attentive to detail that ripping a base a part would be child's play.

If we can ignore the isolated TH and 39% the hell out of a village while walking away with 200k/200k, you can be sure that flattening bases with pekkas and wizards would be a walk in a park.

Also, trophy chasing is not a full measure of skill as the result is mostly contributed by how long one can stay online, and how fast one can gem his troops, as displayed by Jorge Yao.

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Vitriol, I like that. It's justified but hey I don't like farmers that take cheap shots at low level players knowing full well that there will be no payback. I see it as a form of online bullying that dissuades new players from sticking around and having fun. The game is a pay by choice game so no I don't think farmers should be forced to pay, I also think that they shouldn't be allowed to have free rein at ruining every newer or weaker player just so that they can look at a pretty town with high level troops that are never put to good use. I tried farming once but when it occurred to me how the lower level players on the receiving end of my attacks must feel my conscience wouldn't allow me to continue. I'm not forcing my morals onto anyone else (although if you look at society this has been going on for years for the betterment of mankind and the human race as a whole) but I'm entitled to my opinion and my opinion I will state, like it or lump it. My main point was that farmers are ruining the game for the majority of players and SC have taken steps to stop that. You all had your exploitative run but now the game is up, adapt and quit whining. As you farmers love to quote: Find your natural trophy level and things will be easy enough. Well now you can! It'll just be higher than where you're all hiding at the moment while taking candy from the babies =]

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I am curious as to what you consider a "lower level player" who is quitting the game because of farming. Is it under th6? Because if that is the case, then they are not being attacked by farmers anyway, due to the loot penalty. Meanwhile, while th7 may be farmed, it is generally considered the best th level to get loot.

Regardless, I'm fine with those people quitting. I went from level 1 to 85 without gemming, and I was farmed a lot, but all it took to advance was hard work and perseverance. Someone wants to quit because the game is too hard? Fine, they can. But they better not complain because I didn't quit, and now I can destroy their base when I attack them.

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I look forward to seeing your base, which is built by using trophy instead of resources since you don't farm, on my daily raids.

Oh, and just so you know, farmers are more than capable of taking on any high level village with top tier troops. In fact, our constant search for resources in collectors or storages had made us so attentive to detail that ripping a base a part would be child's play.

If we can ignore the isolated TH and 39% the hell out of a village while walking away with 200k/200k, you can be sure that flattening bases with pekkas and wizards would be a walk in a park.

Also, trophy chasing is not a full measure of skill as the result is mostly contributed by how long one can stay online, and how fast one can gem his troops, as displayed by Jorge Yao.

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My base is nothing special as like I said I gem within reason so that I can enjoy the game without spending too much time on it. That said my clan is in my sig as is my CoC name, so quit farming for a day and you'll see me around the 2400-2500 trophy mark atm. Come and show me what you're made of. I could do with a revenge on a farmer, cheers =]

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I am curious as to what you consider a "lower level player" who is quitting the game because of farming. Is it under th6? Because if that is the case, then they are not being attacked by farmers anyway, due to the loot penalty. Meanwhile, while th7 may be farmed, it is generally considered the best th level to get loot.

Regardless, I'm fine with those people quitting. I went from level 1 to 85 without gemming, and I was farmed a lot, but all it took to advance was hard work and perseverance. Someone wants to quit because the game is too hard? Fine, they can. But they better not complain because I didn't quit, and now I can destroy their base when I attack them.

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This pretty much proves my point. You're using an exploit knowing full well that you are ruining other players games to the point that they quit and you don't care. Everything is for your own gain so long as it can be had for free without a challenge. That is why I disagree with the farmer mentality. Anyway the point of the matter is that SC are patching that exploit anyway they can atm, just don't whine about it ;)

i just took 120k of gold and 110k of elixir from a guy with town hall lvl 8 ..... he got mad and attakes me with minions and a pekka ..:mad::mad::mad::mad:

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i just took 120k of gold and 110k of elixir from a guy with town hall lvl 8 ..... he got mad and attakes me with minions and a pekka ..:mad::mad::mad::mad:

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Are u saying that you should be able to attack him without him attacking you back?

How much did he take from u?

i am th9.. but i am not having trouble with loots.. =D so many many ppl whinning bout loot.. zz u all need to adapt..

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i am th9.. but i am not having trouble with loots.. =D so many many ppl whinning bout loot.. zz u all need to adapt..

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You must be an arts major. Scientists never adapt :D

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Lol finance major here hahaha

Supercell, pls hear our request. Pls raise the cap for th9.. :)

Sandiego said it pretty perfectly. I couldn't agree more.

Great post, agree with it wholeheartedly!

in response to a few other comments about 1400 range being the best for loot...I disagree. Sub 200 you can make 1mil gold per hour. And that's not an exaggeration either, I've spent the last 3 days or so down here and it's paid for alot of my L9 walls. Oh and I'm th8.

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Except that i think minions and the golem are awesome, i agree with the rest of this post. Well written and captures my sentiments exactly.

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Great post, agree with it wholeheartedly!

in response to a few other comments about 1400 range being the best for loot...I disagree. Sub 200 you can make 1mil gold per hour. And that's not an exaggeration either, I've spent the last 3 days or so down here and it's paid for alot of my L9 walls. Oh and I'm th8.

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Sub 200 is amazing, but the hassle of staying in the range due to logging off and gaining rediculous amounts of trophies (up to 500 at one point) puts me off it.

Sub 200 is a pain costs a lot to get down below and the minute you go to the bathroom you get pushed up 300 + 😡

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Great post, agree with it wholeheartedly!

in response to a few other comments about 1400 range being the best for loot...I disagree. Sub 200 you can make 1mil gold per hour. And that's not an exaggeration either, I've spent the last 3 days or so down here and it's paid for alot of my L9 walls. Oh and I'm th8.

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Nice story bro. If only TH8 can get level 9 walls. :rolleyes:

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fails in the start of this thread... i don't feel like reading it because of them... stuf like you saying they reduced the loot with 20% unless they have a million gold... thats not true they reduced it by 5% and the 1 million is just where the marker says stop don't give out more loot from the storages, that means for someone to steal 200k from your storages you now have to have 1M+ resources where it was "only" 800k before the update

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What you fail to realize is that a drop from 25% to 20% is, in fact, a 20% reduction. In other words, 5 is 20% of 25.

That is a pretty big drop in available resources.

There is some loot to be found, but not like there was before the update.

Honestly though, why do we need to protect the n00bs? No one protected me at that level, and I've gotten along just fine up to this point.

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The are different types of farmers, and not all of us pray on the weak.

I have never, one single time, dropped troops with the intention of shedding trophies.

I do, however, have my town hall outside of my walls, and value resources over trophies.

I naturally seem to cycle between 1,400-1,700 trophies.

I am currently TH7, and level 65 (nearly 66).

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Nice story bro. If only TH8 can get level 9 walls. :rolleyes:

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Lol, my bad...I meant l8 walls and at 500k a pop, it feels like they should be l20 ones!

so the jealous th9 wanna ruin the only good level left to play this game (TH8), just a 10% penalty & still so much crying...

I have TH9 (premature) in my clan & I find levels for them where even they get good loot...

move around the trops / change your attack strategies & stop sobbing...dont expect spoon feeding from CoC or ask others for good trop levels...:cool:

TH9 want more loot / lower TH want less loot to be taken, poor CoC

Part of the problem is Supercell is slow at fixing things. My guess is the bonus for leagues will not be adjusted for a few weeks at least

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I suspect that will have more to do with analyzing weekly sales data of gems, if sales continue to grow I wouldn't anticipate any fixes outside of the scheduled changes they already have planned.

The reason behind bringing the max down from 25 to 20% was so we can have a chance to save more? Well thats an epic fail. How do u save more if u cant fill it up in the first place? I used to recover from losing 200k attacks by raiding twice previously. Now, u get raided like that, it takes 4 to 5 raids to recover. Nett result is my progress has stalled. Theres no game for new th9s.

in fact, it is inserting way too much frustration into my life. Im quitting for a week, as advised by my clan members. Ill decide what to do next week.

I see everyone talking about loot range .... Well for me its been a different experience .... I tried 1500-2000 range ( pretty wide ) and the loot seems to be dependent more on the hours that i attack rather than the trophy range ... No mater if i have 1500 or 1800 or 1900 there are certain hours when i find loot and some periods where i cant find anything in a 500 cup range

I think most self proclaimed "trophy hunters" would be very surprised and upset if the vast majority of farmers started to focus on climbing. Like earlier mentioned, most folks that farm well have a great understanding on how to efficiently peel a base back, to do what they want. If I need to open up a townhall or pop a storage, in the end its just a target. The age old argument to put more value to the townhall could remedy this. The problem is the gemmers would start complaining about the farmers, not vice versa

The economics of farmers is not completely void. I think most high level guys have bought at least one or two builders and do the occasional barrack boost to speed raiding. If the game is fun , I think folks will hang around and keep going, and perhaps spend on other things. I think SC needs to realize there are far more people farming than hunting, and its a demographic that has adapted despite the efforts to curtail.

I will honestly say the game is pretty stale right now. I do just fine on earning resources, but I have learned how to properly attack bases. I will also say it takes a lot of searches to find bases at multiple levels. I could imagine for the guy that is mid level mediocre or prem-TH9 this game is horrible and that causes them to quit. -- Not that we need to spin this off as a farmer versus hunter deal so we can stop here.

I agree with the OP that the league approach could be cool if done right. Put some kind of end trophy at the end of the two weeks. Even if its a 100 gems or more as you climb, I think it would get folks going for it. Leave the leagues the same for the entire period and maybe have a playoff for the top 20 the last day. How many of us make $1 bets with buddies on games and root like crazy. Put some skin in the game and folks would be more about it.

BK

yes yes yes ... Yes!
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Supercell,

You're going the wrong way with this game. You keep taking steps to "protect the newer players" and add new high end toys and troops to keep the gemmers gemming, but the game is losing it's appeal to me and many others.

I can forgive the high end stuff as that is where the money comes from and the game needs to be kept fresh with new goals to acheive but it's the steps that you have taken with regards to protecting newer players that has removed a lot of the fun factor from this game. There has been a lot of vocal objection to the changes you have made. You ask for feedback but do not respond adequately to the biggest issues people bring up.

You brought caps into the game to limit the amount of resources that could be taken. Then you instituted penalties and bonuses into the game in regard to attacking a lower or higher TH. Then you expanded those penalties and bonuses. In this last update you have reduced the available loot from storages by 20% unless they have about a million or more in storage! It is clear the direction you are going in and it is not good for the game.

The result of your latest update is that attacking isn't as fun. Attacking is the cornerstone of this game and the most fun aspect of playing. The amount of raidable loot is the primary factor in choosing to attack a base. By making less loot available, you reduce the number of targets to attack. This adds frustration to attacking costing more time and gold to find targets. This game is similar to poker in that it becomes more interesting and fun when more is at stake. The more that a base has to take the more interesting and fun it becomes to attack it.

Because of the way storage loot is calculated you can usually avoid being attacked by having less than 200,000 gold in storage because you are not a target if someone cant even make 40,000 gold from raiding you. So this has created an issue where there are fewer targets worth attacking than before the update when you search for an opponent. The cost of searching is a big drain on individual resources but more importantly on the entire community because it is gold which is removed from the game and therefore it is important to the players to reduce this drain on the entire community.

The game would be much better if there were more targets and more loot available when attacking. It is not a big deal for TH7 and up to lose 100k of resources because they can make that back in an attack or two. These levels should not need to have 500,000 in storage to have 100,000 exposed for the taking. Make it 50% of storage up to 200,000 then reduce it to 20% up to 700,000 to achieve your maximum of 200,000. This would create many more targets worth attacking and greatly reduce the annoyance of searching and the drain of gold on the players.

Also I think higher caps should exist for TH8 & 9s. They should have an opportunity to play for higher stakes as the more advanced levels of the game and they also need the resources with the much higher upgrade costs. Increasing the raidable storage caps to 250,000 for TH8(which would be achieved at 950,000+ per my calculations above) and 300,000 for TH9(at 1.2 million+) would make the game more enjoyable on attack and not add much pain on defense since it would be easier to make it back. It is difficult to get all four storages on a TH9 so they would rarely lose the max.

Get the leagues figured out quick. They are an embarrassment for the most part. You need a structure where you remain in a group for the entire 2 weeks, no moving up or down until it's over. You compete with those in your group for rewards at the end of two weeks(GEMS!). The best way to do it would be to allow the player to attack everyone in his group once (similar to a revenge). Add up the stars from the attacks within your group and those with the most stars at the end of the 2 weeks win the prizes(hopefully 1st, 2nd, 3rd). Also you need to increase the pathetic bonus given out at the low and middle leagues. Give back the experience levels which should have never been removed. People are proud of the levels they have earned and deserve it displayed. Not to mention it is more useful information than league or trophy #.

Your updates keep taking the game in the wrong direction. More loot needs to be made available for raiding not less to keep the fun factor in this game. Another thread discussed the poor balance in terms of time needed to make troops which causes people to use the same basic troops 99% of the time and how it gets boring and old. There should be better options for variety in army composition. I thought DE troops would help in this area but they have been disappointing for the most part. The way you are taking this game is making me look for other options to spend my time and money on. I'm sure I'm not alone. I will be here until the next update to see how you respond to the chorus of complaints but that may be the end of the road.

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Enough said! I applaud you, sir.

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Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1

Honestly though, why do we need to protect the n00bs? No one protected me at that level, and I've gotten along just fine up to this point.

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Most of us had to persevere in the face of beatdowns from higher lvl players without these silly penalties and limits but the loot was always good enough to make it back and more. We all stuck with it and now, when the tables are turned and we need resources to pay for expensive upgrades and walls, it's hands off the newer players! Sorry but TH7, 8, and certainly 9 are NOT newer players. There is no need to protect them because many have been there and succeeded in the face of more difficult conditions.

I'm going to take a guess and say this is a total misdirection and is completely unrelated to newer players. It's a ploy to make everyone slow down and struggle just a little bit more such that more players will buy gems and those that use gems will need to use even more. They could have easily put more restrictions in place at the lower TH levels without affecting the upper THs. But instead they changed something that affected everyone! How can you make a change that affects TH9s raiding other TH9s and 8s raiding other 8s and 9s and then claim it was put in place to protect newer players?

Really? They want us to upgrade those mines and collectors to get more loot? It's such a joy to sit there and watch them work. No! This game is based on RAIDING for big loot. That is where the fun lies. If the loot isn't out there to raid the game just isn't fun. Players at higher levels don't need protecting. They need to have more loot and more targets to attack so they aren't spending so much gold and time searching.

It's clear that Supercell has an agenda that keeps reducing the amount of loot you are able to raid while making excuses about protecting newer players. I'm gonna call them out on their garbage excuses and demand they make more loot available at higher TH levels. We are all watching you Supercell. Many people are not happy with the direction you are taking the game. What is your next move?

Wow, first time here. I am so frustrated with the changes. Very noticeable, I have been attacking all day and getting gold is much harder and longer. I only got 2 million at the moment and 1 million was from yesterday, this is terrible that they are slowing progress down so much. To those saying that the gold is out there, sure it is but you spend so much just to find a worth while enemy to attack that you end up breaking even or getting only a bit of increase.