game penalizes you more for having good defense then it does for being crap

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October 13th, 2014
Phatphatty

game penalizes you more for having good defense then it does for being crap

I am currently upgrading to TH9 finally after diligently putting in the work to max out my defenses. In preparation for my town hall upgrade I have been saving up my resources to max out my storages and earning the de to purchase the Archer Queen. I have been over the cap point for gold elixir and de for a few days now so as you can imagine I get raided immediately after I log off. What annoys me more than anything is getting raided by someone having them steal all my my available de and then still not getting a shield because they failed to get 50% ... most likely because they were only after the de in the first place. Then because I have not been given a shield another person comes and I lose that much more loot. It is ridiculous if you win a defense you get penalized by not being awarded a shield and you still need to pay to have your traps re-armed. Don't tell me to put my townhall outside of my walls that only promotes stupid th sniping and the times I have done it I end up getting raided anyway because who isn't going to go after 300k gold and elixir and 2000 de? This game can be so aggravating sometimes.
October 14th, 2014
STEVENX

Put your town hall outside if you want a shield.
October 14th, 2014
CoFusion

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Originally Posted by Phatphatty

I am currently upgrading to TH9 finally after diligently putting in the work to max out my defenses. In preparation for my town hall upgrade I have been saving up my resources to max out my storages and earning the de to purchase the Archer Queen. I have been over the cap point for gold elixir and de for a few days now so as you can imagine I get raided immediately after I log off. What annoys me more than anything is getting raided by someone having them steal all my my available de and then still not getting a shield because they failed to get 50% ... most likely because they were only after the de in the first place. Then because I have not been given a shield another person comes and I lose that much more loot. It is ridiculous if you win a defense you get penalized by not being awarded a shield and you still need to pay to have your traps re-armed. Don't tell me to put my townhall outside of my walls that only promotes stupid th sniping and the times I have done it I end up getting raided anyway because who isn't going to go after 300k gold and elixir and 2000 de? This game can be so aggravating sometimes.

That's the way of the game, either put your town hall out or lose loot, winning is expensive.
October 14th, 2014
Xeno24417864

Or how about when you go to sleep wake up and see 5 consecutive people who used 3 lightning spells on you DE storage them surrendered. Sure it's only about 300-800 Dark but over and over again? That is even worse
October 14th, 2014
CoFusion

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Originally Posted by Xeno24417864

Or how about when you go to sleep wake up and see 5 consecutive people who used 3 lightning spells on you DE storage them surrendered. Sure it's only about 300-800 Dark but over and over again? That is even worse

I've lost 18k de from lightning with 2.5 days once, and that's why I never go into gold league anymore.
October 14th, 2014
Kyrillion

You guys need to rank up in cups then;) Then you won't find any lightning dudes or people who fail your defence over and over again + if you have more cups, people will go for th much faster rather trying to crush your defence!
October 14th, 2014
Phatphatty

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Originally Posted by Xeno24417864

Or how about when you go to sleep wake up and see 5 consecutive people who used 3 lightning spells on you DE storage them surrendered. Sure it's only about 300-800 Dark but over and over again? That is even worse

Yes this in particular is just absolutely aggravating. I will admit I carry lightning with me and use it on drills/ storages, but only at the end of my raids when I have already given the person a shield. Supercell really needs to do something about players who only drop lightning. Really my gripe is not about losing resources. If I get raided by someone who takes my resources fairly I am not bothered by it. I am more annoyed by the fact that there is no reward for winning defenses besides trophies, which I could personally care less about. It would be interesting to see how the game would change if looted resources were only awarded if a player earns a star. Or if a player loses they have to pay the cost of re-arming your traps.
October 15th, 2014
Drrgamer

Try to keep your de in very center of your base
keep your th outside most likey someone will snipe and even if they dont and go for
de they will have to get to core which should result in 40% and 40% or 42% will give you shield
October 15th, 2014
dbolg22

Thats how the game is. Sorry.

Leave your town hall outside or move up in cups! If you move up in trophies people will just 3 star you and then you'll get your precious shield. Bombs and traps should always be bought back to promote more play time.

OR JUST LEAVE YOUR TH OUTSIDE!!!! This greatly increases your chance of a lower player who wants cups to just snipe it.

PROBLEM SOLVED!

ZAPPING IS PART OF THE GAME, GET USED TO IT! :D
October 15th, 2014
Wendy7734

Yep

If a th outside...does not matter...I want your loot. Since the hero change...many strong players...th 10 stay in gold league for this reason. I only need a few wall breakers archers and barbs to do it. Th 9 not a fun place. The xbows are nothing more then an archer tower when a th 10 sees it. This is where supercell gets you to spend money.
October 15th, 2014
soonthorn

Use your brain

Leave your town hall outside, waaaaay outside.

I have 100,000 de, 4 mil elix, and 2 mil gold. Never get attacked for loot.
October 15th, 2014
Phatphatty

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Originally Posted by soonthorn

Leave your town hall outside, waaaaay outside.

I have 100,000 de, 4 mil elix, and 2 mil gold. Never get attacked for loot.

In my origianal post I noted that I was aware of this strategy. In fact I have used this strategy. In my opinion though placing a town hall outside of your walls is detrimental to the game. It gives no real value to trophies. Providing a reward for defensive wins would help make the game more competitive in a manner that is logical. Trophy rankings would actually have meaning.
October 21st, 2014
KobeSteak

loot rewarded only if 1 star

Phatphatty has a great suggestion:

It would be interesting to see how the game would change if looted resources were only awarded if a player earns a star. Or if a player loses they have to pay the cost of re-arming your traps.

I admit, I tried keeping TH inside, not worth it. So I keep it outside. Crappy part of the game and I really like Phatphatty's suggestion. No way Supercell changes it though. Just seems like a pretty big fundamental change.
October 22nd, 2014
TheMan131505

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Originally Posted by Phatphatty

I am currently upgrading to TH9 finally after diligently putting in the work to max out my defenses. In preparation for my town hall upgrade I have been saving up my resources to max out my storages and earning the de to purchase the Archer Queen. I have been over the cap point for gold elixir and de for a few days now so as you can imagine I get raided immediately after I log off. What annoys me more than anything is getting raided by someone having them steal all my my available de and then still not getting a shield because they failed to get 50% ... most likely because they were only after the de in the first place. Then because I have not been given a shield another person comes and I lose that much more loot. It is ridiculous if you win a defense you get penalized by not being awarded a shield and you still need to pay to have your traps re-armed. Don't tell me to put my townhall outside of my walls that only promotes stupid th sniping and the times I have done it I end up getting raided anyway because who isn't going to go after 300k gold and elixir and 2000 de? This game can be so aggravating sometimes.

I am a town hall 9 with maxed defenses except for my cannons. I threw my town hall outside and I get seriously raided maybe once a week. I am in gold ll but there are some good players down here as well that could easily get to half my storages but it rarely happens. Even when I have max loot available I get town hall sniped by a th7 8 or 9 the vast majority of the time. I highly recommend a farming base when you get to town hall 9 since there is so much to upgrade. I wish you luck fellow clasher!!
May 26th, 2015
matrixphijr

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Originally Posted by CoFusion

That's the way of the game, either put your town hall out or lose loot, winning is expensive.

I'm doing both, actually. I used to be like the OP when I was in Silver or Gold league. Putting the TH outside didn't matter at all because a TH9 would come along and completely disregard my TH to wreck me and steal my loot sooner than a friendly sniper would. So I switched to a more conventional base and I got bombarded by people who wanted my loot and didn't give a ♥♥♥♥ about the trophies. They'd either lightning my DE and walk away with 0%, send everything in toward my DE storage (and/or the storages with the most loot) and not care if they ended with <40%, or, again, completely wreck my base seemingly just for fun.
Then, I moved up to Crystal (from those "successful" defenses), and I no longer have any of those problems. With my TH outside, I have been sniped every time. Since I only lose a few trophies, I just break my shield when I log back on, with none of the same fears I had before. In fact, I just recently started the upgrade to Level 2 Golems (which costs 60k DE, btw). Used to be I couldn't make it above 20k before I'd get wrecked or lightning'd. Crystal has been amazing to me so far.
Of course, saying this will probably karma me right in the face, but at least I already spent 60k!