Our favourite Loot improvement suggestion is...

I know there's a loot thread, I wanted to run a poll on everyone's preferred Loot improvement suggestion. Here's a round up of some of the best/most popular suggested.

1) Collector buff (Build more, higher level, produce more, 1 gem boost always).
2) Remove Next cost.
3) Next cost is paid to skipped user.
4) % of army cost refunded depending on stars earn't.
5) Improve Inactives availability in search queue.
6) Increase league bonuses
7) Increase clan wars win bonuses

I know there have been literally hundreds of suggestions, these are the ones I think would be the most effective and most likely to be implemented. I'm also aware a couple have been ruled out in the Suggestions thread but that means nothing...

You votes and reasons why please!

Mine is number 4! (As it was my suggestion!)

I've been thinking a great deal about a balanced solution to the perceived loot problem in the game at the minute. There are many simple suggestions like dropping the Next fee, releasing level 12 mines and pumps or increasing the league loot bonus. These are all great ideas, probably won't happen as they would massively unbalance the game. So, I have my own, more elegant solution. It's very simple really, depending on the number of stars you earn, you get a % of your troops killed/spells used cost back.


Examples:


If you score three stars, you are rewarded the full cost of your killed army units back as a bonus at the end.
Two stars would be 75% of killed units.
One star would be 50% of killed units.


The benefits of this are pretty good, obviously, the cost of your attacking army will be reduced, hence increasing the amount of loot you earn per raid. The staggered refund percentages will reward more competitive gaming instead of the endless 50% farming gameplay we currently see. Only refunding killed units balanced the refund reward a little, meaning overwhelming, unfair wins versus lower THs aren't rewarded too much.


The very core of gameplay in Clash of Clans, in my opinion, is managing your resource margins. Working to maximise your return per raid and making as much profit as possible. This method increases profitability, increases "fun" game play with power armies and discourages the current farming techniques that are harming the game by making raiding more profitable and fun. e.g. Town Hall Sniping.


This should also be implemented in Clan Wars as it'll significantly improve the benefits of fighting wars.

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Originally Posted by DroogJanus

Mine is number 4! (As it was my suggestion!)

I've been thinking a great deal about a balanced solution to the perceived loot problem in the game at the minute. There are many simple suggestions like dropping the Next fee, releasing level 12 mines and pumps or increasing the league loot bonus. These are all great ideas, probably won't happen as they would massively unbalance the game. So, I have my own, more elegant solution. It's very simple really, depending on the number of stars you earn, you get a % of your troops killed/spells used cost back.


Examples:


If you score three stars, you are rewarded the full cost of your killed army units back as a bonus at the end.
Two stars would be 75% of killed units.
One star would be 50% of killed units.


The benefits of this are pretty good, obviously, the cost of your attacking army will be reduced, hence increasing the amount of loot you earn per raid. The staggered refund percentages will reward more competitive gaming instead of the endless 50% farming gameplay we currently see. Only refunding killed units balanced the refund reward a little, meaning overwhelming, unfair wins versus lower THs aren't rewarded too much.


The very core of gameplay in Clash of Clans, in my opinion, is managing your resource margins. Working to maximise your return per raid and making as much profit as possible. This method increases profitability, increases "fun" game play with power armies and discourages the current farming techniques that are harming the game by making raiding more profitable and fun. e.g. Town Hall Sniping.


This should also be implemented in Clan Wars as it'll significantly improve the benefits of fighting wars.

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How would this help with gold? How is farming bad for the game? it is the only way to upgrade your base without paying lots of money so why would you want something that discouraged farming?

I think increasing inactive bases sounds brilliant but at the same time that's also a lazy farming technique. Sure I love when I come across an inactive base but it's not something to rely on. A few other suggestions seem good although I don't see any of them being implemented any time soon.

I vote for a collector buff... it sounds like the most long term solution to me.

wow there are many good ideas
i would love to choose a couple of them

1. Th should hold way more loot. This would cause less next for th9 and 10 in crystal because you wont see as many th 7/& there sniping their way up.

You would be able to raid storages because the free shield will be gone

But of your ideas. Collector buff would be the quickest fix

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Originally Posted by sj74

How would this help with gold? How is farming bad for the game? it is the only way to upgrade your base without paying lots of money so why would you want something that discouraged farming?

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To answer your questions.

1) This would make farming more profitable in terms of elixir and dark elixir. The change would actually benefit those using power armies to raid storages more than farmers using barch. Think about a full Gowiwi, hitting a TH10 with 400k/400k/3k available and THEN the league bonus AND a 75% refund because you two starred. The gold would be better because you could afford to hit bigger bases.

2) Farming isn't "bad" for the game. Endless barching is boring. And boring games are bad.

3) I don't want to discourage farming, I believe you may have got the wrong end of the stick, I want to make farming more profitable, storage raiding more profitable and the game more fun.

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Originally Posted by lanesteele240

1. Th should hold way more loot. This would cause less next for th9 and 10 in crystal because you wont see as many th 7/& there sniping their way up.

You would be able to raid storages because the free shield will be gone

But of your ideas. Collector buff would be the quickest fix

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This is an interesting suggestion as it would benefit the crazy snipers we see, but also discourage farmers from abusing the sniping culture for free shields. Would it improve loot? Or would it annoy farmers?

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Originally Posted by DroogJanus

To answer your questions.

1) This would make farming more profitable in terms of elixir and dark elixir. The change would actually benefit those using power armies to raid storages more than farmers using barch. Think about a full Gowiwi, hitting a TH10 with 400k/400k/3k available and THEN the league bonus AND a 75% refund because you two starred. The gold would be better because you could afford to hit bigger bases.

2) Farming isn't "bad" for the game. Endless barching is boring. And boring games are bad.

3) I don't want to discourage farming, I believe you may have got the wrong end of the stick, I want to make farming more profitable, storage raiding more profitable and the game more fun.

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Farming with power armies is a non-starter not because they are not profitable enough (although that is a factor) but because they take much to long to train. The fact of the matter is that all the old-school farmers got their max bases by using quick cheap armies not power armies. If everyone had always had to use power armies to farm nobody would have farmed a max base by now.

If you find barching boring thats' fine (I do too) but it shouldn't be penalised or discouraged because that is discouraging efficient farming and you don't have to do it if you don't want to (and don't mind waiting a bit longer for your upgrades).