How can I predict the movements of my troops

What I do not understand lately is why are groups of Giants splitting into two groups after destroying one target. Or why is one Giant staying behind and trying to go through a wall while there is a clear opening just two or three tiles away.

Why are the archers or barbs waiting for a sec and then go to the least valuable target?

This is seriously affecting my attacking. What is happening now I just let the wave of troops loose and watch what is happening on the field.

Am I doing something wrong or have I missed something?

I think what has happened is that super cell "fixed" the OP offense by dumbing down troops.

When you get skills you wont have to predict, you will just know! :cool:

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Originally Posted by WinterSoldier

When you get skills you wont have to predict, you will just know! :cool:

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Thanx for the wisdom :)

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Originally Posted by dragandewhy

What I do not understand lately is why are groups of Giants splitting into two groups after destroying one target. Or why is one Giant staying behind and trying to go through a wall while there is a clear opening just two or three tiles away.

Why are the archers or barbs waiting for a sec and then go to the least valuable target?

This is seriously affecting my attacking. What is happening now I just let the wave of troops loose and watch what is happening on the field.

Am I doing something wrong or have I missed something?

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I think if the troops have a similar choice in one or more targets (i.e similar distance & walls) then the choice between the targets is randomized. So a random amount will choose one target whats left will go to the others.

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Originally Posted by fatdunky

I think if the troops have a similar choice in one or more targets (i.e similar distance & walls) then the choice between the targets is randomized. So a random amount will choose one target whats left will go to the others.

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ok.
And randomly I am the one who always gets the short end.
Uh....

Choose an easier target then. Dont be so greedy!

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Originally Posted by 2SmallButts

Choose an easier target then. Dont be so greedy!

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in that case my troop s are exposed to the defense.

Eliminate the defence than rsid t h e village...that is t g e ancient rule.

I putcthe archer in front of the hall and they turn rigth or left to attack a builders hut.

Does not make sense.

while troops are designed to go towards the building (or favourite building) closest to them, supercell is reiterated that there is a certain element of randomness added to troop AI which cant be calculated, its the reason why archers seemingly target a random building behind another, or everyone's favourite scenario which has been repeated ad nauseum (seriously guys stop complaining about this), why archer queen targets walls. In your case, this also explains why your giants are targeting different defenses or are hitting a wall.

in essence, you can plan your raid pinpoint precise, but you can not accommodate for the randomness variable

If you see troops constantly doing the same things, you basically are predicting them. Just try using these things to your advantage. For instance, giants can be used pretty much the same as golems. If you have a giant bashing on a wall, it means all the mortars in range will fire on him. Which could help you, leaving your archers/gobs/wiz/whatever to clean up.

I have also noticed a bit of change to my farming troops A.I., but I just adapted. So doesnt really get in the way. Except the WBs, they can really do some stupid stuff lately.

Anyways, hope it helps.
Cheers, Rock.

Trust in the heart of your troops and you army will conquer all!

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Originally Posted by MoustacheMike

If you see troops constantly doing the same things, you basically are predicting them. Just try using these things to your advantage. For instance, giants can be used pretty much the same as golems. If you have a giant bashing on a wall, it means all the mortars in range will fire on him. Which could help you, leaving your archers/gobs/wiz/whatever to clean up.

I have also noticed a bit of change to my farming troops A.I., but I just adapted. So doesnt really get in the way. Except the WBs, they can really do some stupid stuff lately.

Anyways, hope it helps.
Cheers, Rock.

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thnx but I started to observe this closely and so it does not make sense. It is often that when you need it most they turn somewhere else. So far only the goblins and the giants were the most predictable ones and you count on them but even they started playing up.

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Originally Posted by WinterSoldier

Trust in the heart of your troops and you army will conquer all!

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:D I would like to max tbem but there is no loot :D

Sadly we can't 'predict' exactly how the troops move but by simple skills such as clearing out outside buildings, tapping techniques, deployment strategies etc. we can increase the chance of troops getting that last gold storage instead of useless buildings like barracks. ;)

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Originally Posted by 5025danny

while troops are designed to go towards the building (or favourite building) closest to them, supercell is reiterated that there is a certain element of randomness added to troop AI which cant be calculated, its the reason why archers seemingly target a random building behind another, or everyone's favourite scenario which has been repeated ad nauseum (seriously guys stop complaining about this), why archer queen targets walls. In your case, this also explains why your giants are targeting different defenses or are hitting a wall.

in essence, you can plan your raid pinpoint precise, but you can not accommodate for the randomness variable

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Randomness. ...but why???

With the global financial loot crisis .....randomness. ..is to costly and does not bring to the fun of the game.
I have never seen a barb randomly hitting straight for the DE collector.


The more I am in the game the more excuses and and extra rules and sub rules I find.
The other thing I do not understand is the criteria for the trophies why is one bring only 16 trops and I have no chance to win it and others are much higher.

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Originally Posted by dragandewhy

Randomness. ...but why???

With the global financial loot crisis .....randomness. ..is to costly and does not bring to the fun of the game.
I have never seen a barb randomly hitting straight for the DE collector.


The more I am in the game the more excuses and and extra rules and sub rules I find.
The other thing I do not understand is the criteria for the trophies why is one bring only 16 trops and I have no chance to win it and others are much higher.

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too much predictability can hinge on repetitive which can manifest into boredom (a far stretch i know). i agree that most of the time its irritating to see your troops acting out, but it adds a certain realism aspect to the game.

about trophies, trophies are in no way shape or form related to base strength whatsoever, its quite a simple really, if the opponent has less trophies than you, he is worth a lower amount, and if hes at a higher trophy count, the opposite.

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Originally Posted by 5025danny

too much predictability can hinge on repetitive which can manifest into boredom (a far stretch i know). i agree that most of the time its irritating to see your troops acting out, but it adds a certain realism aspect to the game.

about trophies, trophies are in no way shape or form related to base strength whatsoever, its quite a simple really, if the opponent has less trophies than you, he is worth a lower amount, and if hes at a higher trophy count, the opposite.

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thanx for the trophy explanation.

But. Sorry I do not see any realism in randomness quite the opposite, after a while every game is repetitive. ...collect...build... m a x up...and than do the thing all over again.

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Originally Posted by dragandewhy

thanx for the trophy explanation.

But. Sorry I do not see any realism in randomness quite the opposite, after a while every game is repetitive. ...collect...build... m a x up...and than do the thing all over again.

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i suppose you can say its just to spice up attacking a bit, a bit of unpredictability which can skew a raid either in your favour or against you. imagine youre at 98% with 2 buildings left, minimal health left on the queen as she approaches a gold storage with an archer tower behind it, had there been no randomness in troop AI, she wouldve hit that storage and all its 2k hitpoints, leaving the archer tower to finish her off. however, with the randomness, she could potentially aim for the archer tower prior to the storage and clench the 3 star.

im not saying whether its right or wrong, im just giving hypotheticals for why supercell could have seen a reason for this variable to be included in attacking. us commonfolk are simply going to need to adapt and adjust accordingly

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Originally Posted by 5025danny

i suppose you can say its just to spice up attacking a bit, a bit of unpredictability which can skew a raid either in your favour or against you. imagine youre at 98% with 2 buildings left, minimal health left on the queen as she approaches a gold storage with an archer tower behind it, had there been no randomness in troop AI, she wouldve hit that storage and all its 2k hitpoints, leaving the archer tower to finish her off. however, with the randomness, she could potentially aim for the archer tower prior to the storage and clench the 3 star.

im not saying whether its right or wrong, im just giving hypotheticals for why supercell could have seen a reason for this variable to be included in attacking. us commonfolk are simply going to need to adapt and adjust accordingly

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I love it when you get all smart :o

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Originally Posted by WinterSoldier

When you get skills you wont have to predict, you will just know! :cool:

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Originally Posted by dragandewhy

Thanx for the wisdom :)

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Now gimme the dang cookie that was supposed to come with it!:D

You can't, really.

Like was said they dumb down troops so they aren't over powered. They run simulations to make sure troops aren't op and they make annoying little tweaks. That's the downfall of a 5 man dev team. What you do in response is just watch attacks and find what works, now. Some of the most annoying is dragons when they get near a.d. Because the RANDOMIZER can cost you the match. I've seen a dragon pop back away from air defense and go for a target farther away. I struggle hard to plan my attacks to get 3 stars with dragons but if you take a long time planning its a near guarantee what you will get even with dragons.

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Originally Posted by 5025danny

while troops are designed to go towards the building (or favourite building) closest to them, supercell is reiterated that there is a certain element of randomness added to troop AI which cant be calculated, its the reason why archers seemingly target a random building behind another, or everyone's favourite scenario which has been repeated ad nauseum (seriously guys stop complaining about this), why archer queen targets walls. In your case, this also explains why your giants are targeting different defenses or are hitting a wall.

in essence, you can plan your raid pinpoint precise, but you can not accommodate for the randomness variable

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if you want proof of this, just train a bunch of barbs and watch them walk to your army camp. if you make a little obstacle course between the two, you will notice 90% take the same path while the rest will take a random detour here and there.

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Originally Posted by EliSmith

Like was said they dumb down troops so they aren't over powered. They run simulations to make sure troops aren't op and they make annoying little tweaks. That's the downfall of a 5 man dev team. What you do in response is just watch attacks and find what works, now. Some of the most annoying is dragons when they get near a.d. Because the RANDOMIZER can cost you the match. I've seen a dragon pop back away from air defense and go for a target farther away. I struggle hard to plan my attacks to get 3 stars with dragons but if you take a long time planning its a near guarantee what you will get even with dragons.

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Yeah.... thats why I do not use the dragons.... to expensive ...time consuming. .. and stupid.
With all the fancy expensive troops ...at the end players use the three basic ones and even they are downgraded.

By predicting

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Originally Posted by 5025danny

i suppose you can say its just to spice up attacking a bit, a bit of unpredictability which can skew a raid either in your favour or against you. imagine youre at 98% with 2 buildings left, minimal health left on the queen as she approaches a gold storage with an archer tower behind it, had there been no randomness in troop AI, she wouldve hit that storage and all its 2k hitpoints, leaving the archer tower to finish her off. however, with the randomness, she could potentially aim for the archer tower prior to the storage and clench the 3 star.

im not saying whether its right or wrong, im just giving hypotheticals for why supercell could have seen a reason for this variable to be included in attacking. us commonfolk are simply going to need to adapt and adjust accordingly

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As far as I can see, it is not spicing up anything rigth now. It is a pity rigth now ....it was such a great game.

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Originally Posted by dragandewhy

As far as I can see, it is not spicing up anything rigth now. It is a pity rigth now ....it was such a great game.

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Wha?? You do not enjoy deploying your troops to watch them do the dumbest thing possible? How can this be... nothing is more fun and entertaining than training the worlds dumbest soldiers, spending lots of gold to find a decent base, and then watch to see how they mess it up!

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Originally Posted by bouges

Wha?? You do not enjoy deploying your troops to watch them do the dumbest thing possible? How can this be... nothing is more fun and entertaining than training the worlds dumbest soldiers, spending lots of gold to find a decent base, and then watch to see how they mess it up!

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:) ;)
Yep...right.
They start to look like the iraqi army.

My level 5 barbs have become stronger but dumber. ..I guess it is from the elix steroids.