Thanks for this great guide. I like the idea of using underrated troops like Valks.
i am a TH8...close to being maxed. I look forward to trying these strategies out.
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Thanks for this great guide. I like the idea of using underrated troops like Valks.
i am a TH8...close to being maxed. I look forward to trying these strategies out.
Nio thanks for the advice. I think i have my army comp down and its doing damage. Able to 3 most TH9 and 2 a lot of TH10 in war.
Release it Nio! would love to know how you use it for DE farming
My valks are still just kids, going to 2 now since ive been pushing with loons. but ever since i discovered this thread i was intriqued with them. Cabt wait to see it and good job on this amazing thread
Hey Nio, just checking in to see how far you are with the video
I made the Valkyrie Tornado video, just waiting for clannee to post.
Have footage for Valkyrie and Giant video as well, but haven't done any editing to it so far so that may be a while yet
My Giant and Valks video has some insane DE totals. In high Masters II and I you can hit some insane DE totals
So, have you used healers since the update? I wish to see your take on the valk nd healers
Hey Nio, great thread man. I've been waiting for the day to use some of these strats as a TH8 and now I'm gonna be able to use Giants n' Valkyries for farming and GoViz for war. Would love to see that video for Giants n' Valks!
Great video..thanks for this. Very well done.
So do you accept early TH8s into these Clans to practice war tactis and how do I apply to the clan to visit you and have a couple of wars together?
Thanks in advance
Is it possible to farm elixir using any of these armies or not really?
Loved your new tornado video! How far are you with the other one?
I polished it off and sent it to my clan mate yesterday. So just waiting for him to have the time to upload it.
I think you'll like it. I have some seriously high DE totals on high level bases in it. Unfortunately the bases pretty much all were devoid of CC, which I realized after polishing it off.
The strategy is actually pretty good at eliminating the CC, so its not a big deal unless like a Dragon comes out (since I can't use the Valkyrie trick to eliminate a dragon) or if I simply botch the lure. But I imagine some people won't hesitate to point that out.
I think all of your vids are great! Really enjoy the way how you explain. my valks are going to lvl 3 now. Wich should give them enough power to raid th8/9/premmie th10😃
And i think you explain enough on the first page about how you should lure the CC
What do you think would be the troop comp at th9? And for the valk tornado too
Hey nio. Question. Im a town hall 8 thinking about using valks for war. Which strategy is available for town hall 8?
Healers level 3
Wizards level 5
Wallbreakers level 5
Giants level 5
Hogs level 2
Valks level 1
Golems level 1
Heal spell 5
Rage spell 5
Lightning spell 5
Thanks
Hey what's up. I've been a TH8 for a while now but I'm no where near the end of my TH8 journey. The one strategy I've been using recently is Valkyries n' Hogs. Although it is advised as a TH9, it's possible as a TH8. Here's a screenshot of my latest victory with this strategy. GoViz is also great. Good luck!
http://i.imgur.com/yV5ntL7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cABw5NJ.png
Videos are awesome but how about some of the attack strategies at different levels?
The most common 3 star strategy I see is GoViz with a PEKKA in the CC
2 Golem
8 Valkyrie
14 Wizards
10 Wallbreakers
2 Heal, 1 Rage
However, Valkyrie and Hogs are still pretty new. From what I see that strategy can be devastating Th8-Th10. You just got to get the timing right and plan your attacks well.
The Valkyrie Tornado is also powerful. It was only recently they changed the seeking air mine. If you use a similar strategy as I did with 2 heal, 1 rage - I believe it can be a 3 star strategy against bases with certain Air Defense layouts.
EDIT: Very Nice Shozen
govakie - I will try and record/comment on Valhalla's last war to see the strategies at different levels.
I am handicapped somewhat as my second account is a Th7 and I do not play it much (nor have the time) so its a ways from being ready for Th8.
If I knew how to record videos from my account i would with my second account at TH8. i would just like to see what others are doing.
Main account just went to th10 i guess another learning curve. I got pretty good at th9 with golem valk wiz witch combo.
I guess it is pretty base specific but the most success ive had are a smaller version of what nio said but with back end loons or hogs.
for example alot of TH8 try to be anti dragon and like to have their 3 air def in the core. So I make my valk go there destroy the core then send loons in after. if there is a big core but the air def arnt in it ill do similar but use hogs to finish.
main reason I like this alot is its pretty easy to bust in core with WBs but sometime you get stuck there and end up with 80-90% but by adding back end loons/hogs I tend to get 3 stars alot. that said as much as I love valks ive learn not to force it, some base are just better pure hogged or pure draglooned.
GL
EDIT: the army comp would look something like:
1-2 golem
6-8 valks
8-10 wizs
6-8 WBs
5-8 loons or 10-12 hogs(yes that mean adjusting the main army)
Congrats to D.K.2 for hitting champs as a TH8 with that composition!
Yo Ho!
I just wanna put some nice replay I've took from CoC Girls Event...
Here we go:
http://youtu.be/5JpCw6_gfOY
And, I work on VaLoWiWi replay video today...
Clash on!
Here another trial for hybrid valkyrie strat. Trying to capitalize on unit strengths.
Let's show up:
http://youtu.be/na7RqOM5hfY
Choose opponent wisely is recommended =")
Clash on!
I just used the exact strat I was talking about a bit higher in the thread.
Gowiva with back end loons. Wish I could record it to show but the sofware I used expired =(
Hafid has been working hard on a hybrid attack. He had a mix of Valkyrie, Hogs, Loons, and Giants (I believe)
He basically use something similar to the concept of a HoLoWiWi attack. The Valks/Giants drilled into the core and the loons aimed at the outskirts, hogs used for strategic defense destruction.
I myself have struggled with the hybrid attacks. I've had some success but have issues making it consistent. I plan to eventually practice lavaloonion and then go back to see if I can work out the kinks.
Went ahead and got bluestack to be able to record it :D
this is vs a pretty comon war base and like I said earlier back end loons since all AD in the core get taken care of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMPI...ature=youtu.be
EDIT: wanted to add that it was a cleanup attack and I knew cc was almost all archer so I didnt even care to pull because valks dont give a damn about archer if you heal them.
Yo Ho!
Drink up me hearties...
Here my new record of TH10 Healer Strategy, variant of Valkyrie Strat by Nio...
Enjoy the show:
https://youtu.be/nSQsK0n5Ptw
Meanwhile...
Clash On!
I revised my Valkyrie Tornado section since the update.
I am currently taking it to Champions league with a Golem in the mix. I have not updated the compositions yet nor have I gotten new attack logs.
But I am past 3100 now and the only stipulation is avoiding stupid mistakes that set me back 30 trophies. I've been able to hit maxed bases for 60% (minus the walls) and it has been very consistent.
Anyway, I hope to do a video when I hit champions on my 3 point variation.
I have been very busy FYI, so I am unsure if I will be able to release my \/alhalla war highlights as I only got one of the wars anyway.
Also I did make a giants n' valks video but my clan mate has not posted it yet.
Best guide on the forum for the best troop. Thanks Nio and all of you.:thumbsup:
I'm late th8, and at the point where I have a lot of spare resources, so I've been experimenting with valks. I got 2-3 stars on my first couple tries with this composition. I use 2 pekkas, 9 Valkyries, 10 wallbreakers, 12 wizards, and 7 hogs. On my first try the pekkas and valks cut the base in half very fast, then had to loop around and eventually were outflanked. I figured hogs could come in from the side while the main force destroys the center.
GoHoVaPe is a specialty of mine at Th10. It hits hard, paritcullary those bases with senctions of larger compartments and secitons of more compact compartments. Since your Th8 golems aren't 100% necessary - it just means you have to be extra careful with pathing. But with healing it should bring the pain all the same.
Valkyrie and Hogs are actually an excellent combo - just requires timing and practice
Mmmph... not much option to make sure the win... but, I go with this strats...
Here's the recap:
https://youtu.be/mZ4Xq2zpZmU
I'm in tour now...
Well be back to our skeleton crew soon...
Meanwhile... Clash On!
sorry for the wait :)
http://youtu.be/cJoxm6rT65M
I didn't completely read the whole guide as I did read about half of it though and what I read beats everything I've EVER read about Valkeryie.. I myself have always had trouble with Valkeryie and now your Valhalla files have led me on the road to success with Valkeryie which I'd a VERY difficult troop to control.. I just want to say THANKS AGAIN!!Amazing thread!!!!
Well I made it to champs using the Valkyrie Tornado.
I was kicking tail until about 3150 and hitting some tough bases. Ran into a spot of trouble if the CC had all archers. If the core was segmented or if I pulled them wrong, my troops took painfully long to finish them off.
So I tried adding 4 hogs to lure. It seemed to cost the combo too much to lure. I was struggling.
Anyway, I am not making a video on my journey to champs this go because my final battles were super cautious and not very impressive.
Though my combination worked well, healers really need a 5th level IMO to be truly competitive at the high cup ranges. In Masters III- to low Masters I the combination did extremely well. It was very effective at dismantling premature defenses or taking advantages of defense gabs or weakness.
However, as I approached Champs I believe the prevalence of LavaLoonion made the number of bases with blind spots in air defense coverage few and far between. Without room to breath the healers lose allot of their effectiveness. I may experiment with working hog riders in as part of the main attack. As I was most effective when I could keep those Air Defenses out of the mix (and infernos) to truly prolong the giants life span.
So I feel like I worked out a th10 worthy composition but it has limitations and is best suited against certain base types.
I will probably play with the combo again but would like to pick up the VaLoWiWi combination my clan mates have been experimenting with. Seen some devastating Th8 and 9 raids using this (also has a some giants/golems in the mix).
Its basically a variation upon the GoLavaLoonion strategy - in essence. Stay tuned!
Nice work getting to champs with that comp! It's a great tactic and it's best used in lower town halls when the healers can have that competitive edge. Can't wait to see your VaLoWiWi attacks! Hafid told me the basics and I'm practicing it right now. Good luck with yours!
Working on hybrid Attacks
Big thanks to the people pming me their successes with VaLo combos :)
GoVaLoWiWi - Sir Slick
https://youtu.be/3pxolhw_pGg
Info:. Next on the Valhalla list of strategies is VaLoWiWi. Readers of this guide have experimented with a variation of the GoLaLo attacks 3 staring in war. I've seen some great th8/9 Attacks with the combo and will take my own crack soon.
Hafid's Variation of VaLoWiWi
http://youtu.be/IwbsJIrDhLo
nice going with the valkery.. but it seems wil be effective if i got lvl3+ of valkery.. im in maxed th9 but i still have lvl1 valkery.. its because i dont know how to use em.. lol.. next lab to go is valkery then...
:cool:
https://youtu.be/uhu83aZHi3c
I've been working this deployment style into my storage raiding Valkyrie Tornado attacks. The results have been pretty good so far. But I changed my deployment method, aside from adopting the aim and drop verses a line
One of my big problems had been the sheer speed of Valkyrie verse the lumbering pace of the loons. So to deal with this problem I began deploying the loons on a flank side to my ground attack. This has kept my healers very much alive and has also protected my flank
Other cohorts are still working on VaLoWiWi and my 1st attempt failed, but I did not use the above deployment method. Its pretty spendy DE wise, that is why I am starting with using it in my Tornado attacks.
A new members of \/alhalla is also experimenting with using Hogs instead of giants at the TH9 level for a tornado inspired combination.
Anyway, we are hard at work making crazy long winded combinations that actually work!
Hafid's GoVaHoLo
https://youtu.be/gmxQSrDUMmk
I plan to add this to my guide eventually. ATM, I have 3 videos so can not do so.
http://forum.supercell.net/asset.php...6&d=1427869140
As a th8 going to th9 Valk n Hogs is a powerhouse and underused. Thanks for motivating me to get better with the Valk. Thanks And keep up the great Work!
This is one of Hafid's custom builds. If you watch closely he used the loons where he thought double giant bombs would be.
I am only just getting my feet wet in these hybrid combinations. I haven't even touched mixing hogs and loons but from my experience with my other Valhalla members is that it generally takes allot of planning to achieve the devastating results.
Its about efficiency and capitalizing on unit strengths.
I've been using a variation of the Valkyrie Tornado using 12 loons. I use the loons on a Flank side, basically removing the defenses from the right or left of an attack. This generally keeps my healers alive for a good portion of the battle.
But it only works if the aim and drop deployment, the line deployment doesn't do super well.
I am working on a Th10 variation of the GoVaLoonion/VaGoWiWi and perhaps when I figure that out I will try GoHoVaLo. But its even trickier than the HoVa variations (hogs n' Valkyrie). When executed properly I've seen it do devastating damage but it isn't for those people seeking a simple powerhouse combination.
Well, for me loons is necessary, I want best result with my TH8 cap troops, and thats what I do. Just in case my opponent upgrade his GBs to max TH9, my Hogs pretty sure will be smoked out and thats not good to me.
Different peeps has different though as well.
For me, no standard army composition for war, I've failed at so many war because I used standard war army like simple farming/raiding for loot.
Failed with raiding is my own lost/doomed, but failed in war.. it was clan lost/doomed. Is that means my friend wasting their time with this game.
It was an excellent attack, don't get me wrong. But the hogs still triggered the GB's, despite the loons.
I think with the 40 spaces, you could have added another 8 hogs or giants...or even 10 wizards... to achieve a similar result without making the game plan so complicated.
But in the end, you got 3. :thumbsup:
That's what counts.
Nio: I wanted to know if you could put this in some of your posts for th8 armies.
Just a tip: Attack from the side of the king, he sucks your valks, wiz, and your king into the base rather than around it.
My IGN is King7777
I'm in \/alhalla rn
Been working with Valk tornado & Valk n' Giants with some success as I am at 2,900's. I have noticed that max Giants are a big plus as are max healers..both of mine are a level away. Also, the freeze spell is key in these attacks (mine is going to three). Unless you are a maxxed player you must be very cautious with base selections as you climb. Thanks again.
I really appreciate the videos and hard work put into this thread. It seems like a labor of love though. Hafid keep up the testing.
I think the Valkyrie player is pretty hot. Do you know her age and location? I would like to ask her out. If she needs a boyfriend I am more than willing to chat with her and see if we are compatible. You can usually find me on Global Chat. Thanks!:heart:
This is an awesome thread and keeps getting better. Nio, I lost your info in Line when I changed devices. Trying to look it back up.
Anyway, just wanted to say that I'm looking for another TH9 Valkyrie player to trade notes with. I think players learn a lot from watching each other's attacks, and right now I am on the only valk user in Soaz. Really wish we'd have had another during the Soaz vs Zod war. I am convinced Valks are the best technique for these so called "anti-three star" bases with queen in the middle.
Anyway, if someone wants to visit Soaz for a couple of wars we'd love it. Thanks!
What is the best composition for a mid level TH8 player? Valks and golems are level 1 with level 2 pekkas
Im a pretty new TH9 and Im the only valk user in my clan too. I used them alot at TH8 often in duo with loons cause alot of base had all AD in the core. Now that my valk and loons have upgraded (valk 3) im starting to use them but also combining hogs with valks now. I just attacked 2 pretty upgraded TH9 and got 100% with valks/loons and 96% with valks/hogs(hogs still 4) bummer but almost had it.
Mixed Valkyrie attacks from this weekends war. Enjoy! :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB3tLAiL-sc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaOVevBrLEU
Try 2 Golem, 13 wizards, 11 valks. Use backend hogs or loons in CC. Similar to GoWiPe except wait to deploy valks when enemy CC is triggered. Drop rage & heal where valks meet CC troops. Clanmate asked for help with valk attacks, did this attack, and got 100% on first try.
Remember, you have to let wizards clear path & best to wait for enemy cc to be triggered. Takes guts to wait. Swing by my clan, Soaz, if you want to see replay.
BoTox
BoTox..I am a valk player to. If it works out could I swing by your clan?
Hi mates, this another video with GoVaHo/GoVaHoLo war attack, hope you enjoyed it...
Now, this Hybrid get popular... =")
GoHoVa/GoHoVa:
http://youtu.be/78WwEiZ9BcU
GoVaHoLo:
http://youtu.be/VUo5bN73RMs
Thats it...
Once I got my valks maxxed out I decided I wanted to use them. Here are my first 2 results. I'm impressed.
http://i.imgur.com/KjN7c9n.png
http://i.imgur.com/n2aCt6u.png
The bases I attacked were pretty similar, so the army comp didn't really change. I probably could have used more loons and less hogs to avoid spring traps, but I liked how fast the hogs worked. I'm a believer now.
Well mate, congratz with your maxed Valkyrie...
For the most underrate troops ever... I mostly do so many crazy nearly raid with valkyrie... and as Early TH9 I have to more patient with who I'm targeting to... and trying to get 3 stars consistenly on maxed TH8s and mid TH9s bases... although I'm not good attacker... heheh...
^^ Great posts
https://youtu.be/ZO1Fb_1U1As
1st of 3 part series
Very nice thread going on here. I started using Valks a few days ago since my th9 is upgrading to th10 and I do not need the loot anymore since my storages are filled up. I got a few questions using the Valks..
I used to barch dead bases at th9, but with the upcoming loot penalty I am looking for an army composition that is quick to train and can take on th9's because the th9's are going to be my source of loot with the upcoming loot penalty against th8's..
The army I used was 12 Giants level 6, 2 healers level 3, 4 wallbreakers, 6 Valks en 76 archers, so I could attack every 20minutes. Should I keep my Valks at level 1 to keep the DE cost low? Or am I able to get enough DE still when they are level 4 and getting expensive? Which throphy range should I stick at? I'd like to know... :D
Depends on trophy range.
Masters, no problem. Upgrade those gals! It would make taking on premature Th10 who rely too heavily on infernos much easier.
if you stick to gold, then don't. Crystal I am unsure. But certainly you could get them to level 2.
But to me, DE has never been easier to find. What with Th8 and even 7 getting such a boost in production. I've even been using valks as a Th8 to raid for more DE. Since they rip storages apart, I feel their cost is manageable.
New Vid
https://youtu.be/hypaELvXoxs
https://youtu.be/ZO1Fb_1U1As
So I am really hoping for another level for Valkyrie at the Th10 level. As a late Th10 I can't help but feel I can't quite produce the results of a LavaLoonion. Sure GoWiPe and GoWiWi I'd pit Valkyrie against any day but it seems like hybrid attacks and the occasionally Ho-GoWiWi seems to be the flavor of the day. Compared against a hog attack, I'd say valkyrie make up for lack of 3 stars with solid 2 stars. Still that last cannon upgrade really hurt several of my strategies. Valkyrie need more HP now, so I hope level 5 comes in this next update.
Been playing around with Golem/Giant mix. Its an evolution of GoViz. Basically the 4 golem GoViz but with giants in the place of 2 golems. Its solid and super tanky but only started using it.
HoVa-PE is still great for crab bases and ones where I can get some decent pathing. However, lavaloonion popularity is changing base design at the Th10 and the open base types popping up aren't friendly to Valkyrie strategies.
Pushing/Farming I am still kicking butt but I am finding myself in need of evolution for war. I still think GoVaLoonion has potential but I am not skilled enough in identifying the right bases yet.
My minni at Th8 has been fun though. Have played around allot with early Th8 troops - Giants, Wizards, Valkyrie. Finding level 2 hogs just won't cut it, but 3 heal with GiViz and lots of wall breakers to keep the base open is very powerful. (On the farming side I am rapping bases for big loot hauls, and in war I am starting to net those 3 stars on this basic troop combination)
Soon I will have level 3 hogs riders and hopefully that will help me bring the pain to those compact, super compartmentalized bases.
hi, i'm new th8 and interested of valks. i love clan wars and would like to know if i can be succesful against my level th8's with valk combos and which would be the best combo?
peace
Hey, I just come out of Valhalla and against mid th8 in war I found out that GoViz was a solid combination but if your raiding i used Valkarie Tornando(with a few hogs) a lot I even 3* a th9 with using this which was a proud moment. If you join Valhalla I'm sure they can point you into the right direction on how these girls work :))
Just show over:
http://youtu.be/JmXe5PYx8rM
Hopefully you enjoying that video.
Sorry for the delayed reply. We love Valk players! Orc is in Soaz now and I'm having a blast watching his attacks. We both have three starred our first attacks this war and are hoping the luck continues. Valhalla clan members are always welcome too. Just mention this thread in the join request. Thanks!
It is critical at TH8 to focus on war troops in laboratory early. This should be higher priority than upgrading king. (Click here for podcast on subject.)
Having said that, I recently sketched a valkyrie war plan for a base that my clan was struggling to three star. The guy went in and 3 starred with a GoViz strat with backside loons from CC. It is very effective.
VaPe
Valks at sides (7 or 8 at each side) and 3 Pekkas at the center with King and AQ.
Monstruosity, easiest 3 star since I began playing COC.
Im a late stage th8, and just want to say valks are my favorite troop by far, fast, with splash and tanky, what more do you want? :)
Thx for this thread.
https://youtu.be/dPvHkGztwu8
I added this to the guide, made Zen's champs a link (since its getting dated now)
Hey guys. Question. Do valks really work at th10 vs mid to max th10s? (For 2 stars)
I loved valks at th9 but can't see how they would work into infernos.
Its depend on how you play with valk.
Here some good attacker (TH10)
URL: https://www.youtube.com/user/zenellie84
Ahhh.. its my sister attack.. lol.. always been proud of her. Ever since I'm doing GoViz and HoVa-Go, she was eager to learn it. Hafid helped out a lot. The Suok Village war footage is one of our achievement in practising Valkyrie tactics.
Valkyrie unit is really effective against a compact bases. And using cc troops such as loons, pekka, witches depending on bases could dominate almost all th8.
Well guys I go th8 minni up to war speed and am working on some videos.
Starting with HoVa-Gi and will do a GoViz, which I never completed! (Made videos but got busy and raids were really old by the time I got back to them).
Gosh it feels good to thrash a base with GoViz again, honestly its making me like Th8 better than 10!
\/alhalla has made it to level 4 and has a pretty solid war record. A few bumps, and a short losing streak when I was putting to many "traniees" on the war roster but otherwise very solid. Our Th8 of late have been clearing house and our Th9 have been kicking butt and taking names!
Honestly I am getting tired of Th10. Not for grinding but raids are just so tough. I can farm fine and the Valkyrie Tornado is still great for that but in war I am having trouble finding something consistent and am finding myself trying to evolve.
Right now
HoVa-GoPe - Still one of my go tos but its just not right for every base. You need to be able to focus your Valkyrie or you might as well be doing a Ho-GoWiWi
GiGoViz - Mixing 12 giants and 2 golems. Fairly solid, but again I feel its better concentrated. Valkyrie don't have the HP right now to ditz around for long at Th10.
QuadGoViz + Jump - going to need to name this. Its a 4 golem GoViz with 2 jumps, drop the freeze. The idea is to get the heros/golems sucking up inferno beams so you can carry rage/jump instead. 1st go I also packed a heal for when infernos went down.
VaLoWiWi-Go (sometimes VaLaLoWiWi-Go) - has netted me some impressive 3 stars but its a very specific composition for certain types of bases. I am growing weary of it ATM and taking a break after a failed raid last war (previously I got 6 stars tho)
My tornado variant was strong on certain bases but the prevalence of LavaLoonion makes those bases few and far between.
I had been working balloon into a tornado composition. Absolutely destroys preemie bases but when it fails it fails hard.
For me my goal was always to get to TH9 cause it seem the most fun and so far I was right. at TH9 you need to mkae good plan and account for alot of things but its possible to 3 stars using quite a descent variety of strat. Really not looking forward to TH10 at all(im not even close anyway). the most viable strat for TH10 seem to be laloon wich is the strat that interest me the least.
thx a lot for making this useful guide
still learning to use valk better but 2 stars on clan war is not any problem
and sometimes it works better than gowipe
cheaper and fast training also
i've just arrived at th9 and looking forward to do valk better
Right now at maxed th9 in three starrinnt maxed 9s and 9.5s like a mad man with VaLoon, GoVaLo, VaHoLo, GoVaHo, and VaHo. I'm thinking and trying VaLaLo instead of CB LaLoon as well!!
Is valkyrie Torando worth at th8?