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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Been working a lot with Valkyrie Tornado, but can't seem to get too many three stars. What would be the most important thing to look into when using this strategy?

You tell us to lure the CC if we can, but I'm always a bit skeptical with Valkyrie Tornado... I usually have around 8-10 Giants, 4 Healers, 10 Wizards and 6 Valkyrie for my Valkyrie Tornado strat. I never decide to bring this strategy into war, because we see a lot of drag and loon in CC, which can just rip giants apart.
When I lure with this strategy, I always find myself short on firepower due to not having enough Wizards around for extra cleanup, resulting in my Valkyrie and Giants to die quickly one by one.

When using this strategy outside of war, I find myself getting a lot of 2 star attacks. Does this strategy require higher level CC Giants, or is there a way to make this attack successful without any CC?

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With the recent update where I am fairly certain they messed with healers, I am finding that you are correct. Luring strips too much fire power from the composition.


What Th level are you? Currently I find it most viable at Th9 and that Th10 its lost some luster.


So I have been using some of my old no-lure tactics -which means base selection has to be picky. Attacking opposite the clan castle. Using poison to slow down the CC and getting at least 6 wizards behind your main force.


But of late I am finding myself adjusting my tornado. The subtle AI change so that Valkyrie again dive right into the thick of things combined with the healer tweak have me recalculating.



All the war 3 stars I've gotten have been at the Th9 level. The Th8 ones I have are generally against poor or under leveled bases. I've managed with Th10 before but since the tweak to the healer have struggled to get those 3 stars again (regular raiding)


For Th10 Freeze/poison is becoming a favorite of mine

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Originally Posted by NioTheDreamer

With the recent update where I am fairly certain they messed with healers, I am finding that you are correct. Luring strips too much fire power from the composition.


What Th level are you? Currently I find it most viable at Th9 and that Th10 it's lost some luster.


So I have been using some of my old no-lure tactics -which means base selection has to be picky. Attacking opposite the clan castle. Using poison to slow down the CC and getting at least 6 wizards behind your main force.


But of late I am finding myself adjusting my tornado. The subtle AI change so that Valkyrie again dive right into the thick of things combined with the healer tweak have me recalculating.



All the war 3 stars I've gotten have been at the Th9 level. The Th8 ones I have are generally against poor or under leveled bases. I've managed with Th10 before but since the tweak to the healer have struggled to get those 3 stars again (regular raiding)


For Th10 Freeze/poison is becoming a favorite of mine

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I've noticed, with Healers, that they're going to heal larger groups of troops. I've been experimenting, and I've seen something: i.e- Giants are constantly being Healed by those Healers, but a small group of Wizards and archers are being struck down by point and splash damage defenses. The Healers switch between the nearest groups that need Healing. The way Healers are right now, they target 1 troop to Heal, but their splash heals the whole group. Once that one troop is healed all the way, they'll find another group nearby that needs healing, so they'll be lead off the giants until they heal the group that needs healing. Once that group is healed, they'll switch again to the the next nearest group(Technically 1 troop) that needs to be healed. This is what I've noticed so far.

My primary account is my TH8 one, the one that was just recently in Fólkvangr. I have a strong TH10 account, but I don't fiddle with it often.

I just don't have enough power at TH8, 2 Healers isn't enough to efficiently work, and having 4 is too much. 3 is uneven unless I bring a CC Healer, which I try to avoid doing in regular raiding. I need that extra 20 Spaces that TH9 has.

I've been watching your three star videos at TH10 with Valk Tornado/Giants and Healers, but I can't completely manipulate your strategy. Again, may have to due with the way Healers are now, since they seem different.

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

I've noticed, with Healers, that they're going to heal larger groups of troops. I've been experimenting, and I've seen something: i.e- Giants are constantly being Healed by those Healers, but a small group of Wizards and archers are being struck down by point and splash damage defenses. The Healers switch between the nearest groups that need Healing. The way Healers are right now, they target 1 troop to Heal, but their splash heals the whole group. Once that one troop is healed all the way, they'll find another group nearby that needs healing, so they'll be lead off the giants until they heal the group that needs healing. Once that group is healed, they'll switch again to the the next nearest group(Technically 1 troop) that needs to be healed. This is what I've noticed so far.

My primary account is my TH8 one, the one that was just recently in Fólkvangr. I have a strong TH10 account, but I don't fiddle with it often.

I just don't have enough power at TH8, 2 Healers isn't enough to efficiently work, and having 4 is too much. 3 is uneven unless I bring a CC Healer, which I try to avoid doing in regular raiding. I need that extra 20 Spaces that TH9 has.

I've been watching your three star videos at TH10 with Valk Tornado/Giants and Healers, but I can't completely manipulate your strategy. Again, may have to due with the way Healers are now, since they seem different.

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As TH8, probably u can try this:

CC: 2 giant, 1 healer


Army:
6 valks, 3 healers, 10 giants, 10 wizards, 8 wbs, 1 archer, 3 barb.


Spell:
2 healing, 1 rage, 1 poison.

So, lure if u can. With 2 giant 1 healer from cc u still have 12 giant 4 healer. 10 wizzies, look enough to me. Due to I always bring 10 wizzie.

Wider spread on AD blindspot, valk & king at middle. But, unlucky .. Iam no longer TH8 :) so, I don't have any vid.

https://youtu.be/nZ_VrzkS96s


Another event video :)

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Originally Posted by justHafid

As TH8, probably u can try this:

CC: 2 giant, 1 healer


Army:
6 valks, 3 healers, 10 giants, 10 wizards, 8 wbs, 1 archer, 3 barb.


Spell:
2 healing, 1 rage, 1 poison.

So, lure if u can. With 2 giant 1 healer from cc u still have 12 giant 4 healer. 10 wizzies, look enough to me. Due to I always bring 10 wizzie.

Wider spread on AD blindspot, valk & king at middle. But, unlucky .. Iam no longer TH8 :) so, I don't have any vid.

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I'll be sure to work with this, thank ye'.

http://youtu.be/znOvmH1RUM8

Gaint healer wiz with valks.

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Originally Posted by Jamsterjamji99

Gaint healer wiz with valks.

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Nice if u can put a replay vid on youtube and share here as well.

I called similar composition with VHGH.

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Originally Posted by Jamsterjamji99

Gaint healer wiz with valks.

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Is that not the original Valkyrie Tornado strategy? Or am I missing something...

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Originally Posted by Jamsterjamji99

Gaint healer wiz with valks.

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Is that not the original Valkyrie Tornado strategy? Or am I missing something...

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That's Valkyrie Tornado strategy, based on Valkyrie Handbook =)
Nothing missing in there...

Follow this link:
https://youtu.be/9lb1SlQirgk - TH9 version, from my unlisted video.
https://youtu.be/hiH20SsSENU - First replay, the expanding of Valkyrie Tornado.

If u r in Valhalla/Fólkvangr, enjoying your day in there & happy clashing =)