Why isn't GoWiVa as popular as GoWiWi/GoWiPe?

What spells best company the Valks in CW?

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Originally Posted by mrl0902

Lvl 2 valks should def be done at th8. Once you get to th9, there will be so much other ♥♥♥♥ for your lab that you'll never get back to valks. Meanwhile they could have been effective for you thru late th8 and early th9.

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Okay I will take your advice and start Valks L2 before my TH9 upgrade, kinda bummed out bc that means 10 more days at TH8, so 40 days total unless I gem smth but I see that as a horrible use of gems.....

6 Days Left Golems L2 + Pekka L3 12 days+ Hogs L4 12 days + Valks L2 10 days.

Thanks I'm sure I will not regret taking an extra 10 days when I'm th9 and 10.

What are some useful ways to use Valks at th8?

Have seen a few GoVaPE and other strategies w Valks and it seems like the Jump Spell is almost required for them to do any real damage in war attacks.

Can't see a situation where 1 Valk would be better than 2 Wiz. Even enemy CC Troops 2 wiz will drop them very fast.

It helps to donate them to TH6s and below in their defence war castle. Esp if attacker doesn't lure CC Troops. Which happens at low th levels. But my clan is th7+

Any other uses for L1 Valks at th8 I can try right now?

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Originally Posted by Eternaltourist

What spells best company the Valks in CW?

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Its varied for spells:

1. 2 Heal 1 Jump 1 Rage
2. 3 Heal 1 Jump
3. 3 Heal 1 Rage
4. 2 Heal 2 Rage
5. 2 Heal 2 Jump

All dependable to the layout, and how you gonna attack.

Mostly I use #1 on CW

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Originally Posted by Carsonel

Okay I will take your advice and start Valks L2 before my TH9 upgrade, kinda bummed out bc that means 10 more days at TH8, so 40 days total unless I gem smth but I see that as a horrible use of gems.....

6 Days Left Golems L2 + Pekka L3 12 days+ Hogs L4 12 days + Valks L2 10 days.

Thanks I'm sure I will not regret taking an extra 10 days when I'm th9 and 10.

What are some useful ways to use Valks at th8?

Have seen a few GoVaPE and other strategies w Valks and it seems like the Jump Spell is almost required for them to do any real damage in war attacks.

Can't see a situation where 1 Valk would be better than 2 Wiz. Even enemy CC Troops 2 wiz will drop them very fast.

It helps to donate them to TH6s and below in their defence war castle. Esp if attacker doesn't lure CC Troops. Which happens at low th levels. But my clan is th7+

Any other uses for L1 Valks at th8 I can try right now?

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My lil fellas using lvl 1 at war.
He use HoVa-Gi & HoVa-Go

Hog lvl 3 Valk lvl 1 Golem lvl 1 with 3 healing.

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Originally Posted by Carsonel

Okay I will take your advice and start Valks L2 before my TH9 upgrade, kinda bummed out bc that means 10 more days at TH8, so 40 days total unless I gem smth but I see that as a horrible use of gems.....

6 Days Left Golems L2 + Pekka L3 12 days+ Hogs L4 12 days + Valks L2 10 days.

Thanks I'm sure I will not regret taking an extra 10 days when I'm th9 and 10.

What are some useful ways to use Valks at th8?

Have seen a few GoVaPE and other strategies w Valks and it seems like the Jump Spell is almost required for them to do any real damage in war attacks.

Can't see a situation where 1 Valk would be better than 2 Wiz. Even enemy CC Troops 2 wiz will drop them very fast.

It helps to donate them to TH6s and below in their defence war castle. Esp if attacker doesn't lure CC Troops. Which happens at low th levels. But my clan is th7+

Any other uses for L1 Valks at th8 I can try right now?

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I generally use:

2 golems
6-10 valks
10-18 wiz
0-2 witches
4-8 wbs
remaining space for CC lure & kill

Spells:

1 rage, 2 heal, 1 jump
2 rage, 1 heal, 1 jump
2 rage, 2 heal

Army comp and especially spells depends on the base layout. One cool trick...if you don't lure CC, you can often time the cc engagement to take place in front of an inner wall. Since valks deal splash dmg, they will bust through the inner walls as a by product of the cc engagement. If the cc placement is in the back of the core, I'll usually do this and use 2 rage / 2 heal.

In terms of how to use valks at th8, govalo / gowivalo is great for bases that have centralized AD, which is a lot of bases at th8 because of drags. Loon the backside when your valks take out the ADs.

https://youtu.be/9cIOaP2hwU4

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Originally Posted by KevinsCOC

Valks tend to suck vs high level walls on a th9 level.....So if you were to imagine vsing th10s with infernos valks wont survive. Gowiwipe however can survive. Hope this helps :smirk:

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.... that's exactly incorrect. When th9s get paired up against th10s in clan wars, the most commonly used attacks are the GoWiVa and the GoVape. They use these because the Valks can stand up to the disco long enough to take them out, and are entirely necessary due to lack of freeze spell at th9.

As a th8 the main strategies I used for valks were either:

hogoviz (like neo above but max hogs in cc)
hogovapiz (5 valks and 1 pekka or take out 1 golem and replace with 4 valks)
govapiz (pekka in cc)
goviz

so why is a plain goviz not always the best strategy?

The problem i find at higher th8 levels is the compartments within lvl8 walls after core are hard to get to for the valks. They are usually high level cannons or archers and can take a valk down in a few seconds.
if you want to 3 star instead of a guaranteed 2 then the hogs can take a group of tight knit defenses down when your valks have busted through the core and you are out of heal spells.

I always lure with this strat. Valks are fast enough that time isn't a problem. Always take enough wiz for drag in cc.
2 heal, 1 rage.

pekka is swapped in when defenses are a bit spread out and there are fewer compartments perhaps.
1 golem for a southern teaser base (valk cleans the trash and absorbs giant bombs instead of wiz) or where there is 1 obvious entry point (with bombs).

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Originally Posted by Carsonel

How does this strategy work for TH8s?

I am close to maxing out TH8, all defences and traps maxed. Half of my walls are still level 7, half are Skull level 8, finishing the rest of my lab upgrades. 5 days left on Golems L2, then have Pekkas L3, then Hogs L4.

Was planning on leaving my Valks L1 and Healer L2...

Are Valks useful at TH8 for this GoWiVa strategy? I always thought Valks were useful but you basically need to have a jump spell or else they are useless.

My Golems will be L2 soon, Wiz L5, WB L5, etc..... if this is a viable strategy at TH8 do Valks have to be level 2?

Is there a noticeable difference between L1 and L2 Valks? Don't see a huge stat increase with Valks as I do in other Troops, like Balloons L4 to L5 you get like a 40% increase in HP and 50% damage increase, Wizards from L4 to L5 have like a 25% HP increase and a 33% damage increase...

Just looked up Valk to get exact accurate numbers from L1 to L2 the DPS increases by 12.5% and the HP increases by ~11%. Which to me doesn't seem that noticeable.

If th8 Valks can be used I know every upgrade helps but I'll put off using them if they have to be level 2.

However I am looking forward to trying a GoVaPe attack later in th9 with jump spell ofc

Can't see Valks doing much at l1-2 at th8 since no jump spell

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Well, I´m a mid to max TH 8 right now and my favourite troops in Clan Wars are: Hogs/Wizards/Valkyries/Golem/Giants...

In my opinion GoWiVa is a lot stronger than Gowipe, which is often only a solid 2 star strategy. For dark-troops concering their upgrade, I concentrated on Hogs first(lv 4 soon), so my Valks and Golems are still Lv 1.

And I use GoWiVa in War nearly everytime I can´t use Hogs, because of possible DGB´s. I had to train this strategy a bit, but it works definitely better than Gowipe for me!

The Valkyries are much faster, have splash damage and at Gowiva you are able to check if the funnel is already is big enough. With Gowipe, if one of your Pekka´s is not going into the village, you´ll have a big problem. You have more Valks with you than Pekkas, so if one Valk decides to walk around the village, it´s not that bad. Also what I see often at Gowipe attacks:

The wizards outrun the Golem/Pekka, who should be the tank, and get killed too early. This is not happening with Gowiva, because the Valks are much faster.

And until now, I had no problem with too early dieing Valks. They are strong enough at Lv 1.

To be honest, I don´t use the Gowiva strategy exactly as mentioned here in the forum. I mostly use GiGoWiVa, so 1 Golem, 8-10Giants, 7-10Valks, Rest Wizards(and important some Wallbreakers). I for myself am better with that, but thats a matter of taste I assume, a Clanmate is better with the "classic" Gowiva-style...