Wasted Troops???Not any more ..

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Originally Posted by Mallan

I would hope that you never grow up to command troops. Just saying.:(

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Just saying, you don't send your whole army into a war. That would be stupid. You send a certain amount of troops that you need to fight and you hold the rest in reserve. All wars are fought like that, the only people who sent everyone they can in, have nothing to lose. Try playing a game of Risk and every time its your turn, battle until you only have one person left in each of your countries and let me know if you win. You never send everyone in hoping for a victory. No army does that unless they are on the losing end of the fight. I agree with giving a portion of the elixir back but not all of it and not the troops.

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Originally Posted by tfrohlich

Just saying, you don't send your whole army into a war. That would be stupid. You send a certain amount of troops that you need to fight and you hold the rest in reserve. All wars are fought like that, the only people who sent everyone they can in, have nothing to lose. Try playing a game of Risk and every time its your turn, battle until you only have one person left in each of your countries and let me know if you win. You never send everyone in hoping for a victory. No army does that unless they are on the losing end of the fight. I agree with giving a portion of the elixir back but not all of it and not the troops.

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No but you do send more than enough to get the job done. It compensates for when the plan hits the horizontal impeller.

last time I played Risk, A player got mad at his opponent and punched him in the face! Would you be interested in playing Risk with my old group?

We are not sending in All our troops unless we are out of Elixirs and never get more.

And FYI At the end of a Battle in Risk, do you lose all your SURVIVING forces? No? Ok then.

And No Army discharges their surviving troops after the battle and start from scratch! That is much more wasteful.

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Originally Posted by Mallan

No but you do send more than enough to get the job done. It compensates for when the plan hits the horizontal impeller.

last time I played Risk, A player got mad at his opponent and punched him in the face! Would you be interested in playing Risk with my old group?

We are not sending in All our troops unless we are out of Elixirs and never get more.

And FYI At the end of a Battle in Risk, do you lose all your SURVIVING forces? No? Ok then.

And No Army discharges their surviving troops after the battle and start from scratch! That is much more wasteful.

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I don't know what you are talking about. Risk is nothing like clash of clans.... more like BB actually, but that is beside the point.

This would be way over powered. I could go down to silver/low gold, send in 10 pekkas (or 8, whatever.) and just keep flatening bases... And do it over, and over, and over again.

Less training troops (by them still being alive) means less boosting barracks means less using gems which means less money to SuperCell... won't happen

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Originally Posted by sirhybrid

I don't know what you are talking about. Risk is nothing like clash of clans.... more like BB actually, but that is beside the point.

This would be way over powered. I could go down to silver/low gold, send in 10 pekkas (or 8, whatever.) and just keep flatening bases... And do it over, and over, and over again.

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Unless there is a shelf life to your troops even when they survive. I didn't say they need to be eternal, or immortal.

And shame on you if you are farming like that! There is only one direction. Forward.

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Originally Posted by Mallan

I would hope that you never grow up to command troops. Just saying.:(

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Commanding troops and game development are two completely different things. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

Commanding troops and game development are two completely different things. Just saying.

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No, not really.

Commanding troops requires tasks to be assigned to groups, to be accomplished. No one group can get the job done alone. Some groups will need more... personal direction than others, and all personnel will require a watchful eye for one reason or another. There is less difference that you would imagine.;)

I'm a toolmaker by trade now and the same truths hold true for me now, as it does for Game Developing, as it does for commanding troops.

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Originally Posted by sirhybrid

This would be way over powered. I could go down to silver/low gold, send in 10 pekkas (or 8, whatever.) and just keep flatening bases... And do it over, and over, and over again.

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EXACTLY...hardly any wait time to train more troops, hardly any elixir spent in a battle. Imagine getting 6, 7, 8 attacks out of a dragon...it would bring the cost down to under 5000e per battle. At TH7, if you're trying to farm for resources, it wouldn't make much sense to use any other troops, or have any other strategy besides constantly 3-starring town hall 5s and 6s with all dragon armies, losing at most 1-2 dragons per attack. You find bases with the air defense on the outside, and you won't lose any, so it doesn't even matter that they have virtually no resources because you're not losing any on your attack, and you get to go right back in when you're done. At lower levels, the pool of bases you'd be able to attack would dry up very quickly.

The only way to avoid this would be to basically alter the entire game and throw out the entire trophy system, matching on level instead.

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

EXACTLY...hardly any wait time to train more troops, hardly any elixir spent in a battle. Imagine getting 6, 7, 8 attacks out of a dragon...it would bring the cost down to under 5000e per battle. At TH7, if you're trying to farm for resources, it wouldn't make much sense to use any other troops, or have any other strategy besides constantly 3-starring town hall 5s and 6s with all dragon armies, losing at most 1-2 dragons per attack. You find bases with the air defense on the outside, and you won't lose any, so it doesn't even matter that they have virtually no resources because you're not losing any on your attack, and you get to go right back in when you're done. At lower levels, the pool of bases you'd be able to attack would dry up very quickly.

The only way to avoid this would be to basically alter the entire game and throw out the entire trophy system, matching on level instead.

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Which would completely remove the ability for players to "game the system". 96th Lvl players with TH12, lvl11 Walls, Gold Cannons et al do not belong with players just reaching Silver II. But it happens cause Trophy counts can be manipulated. :p

it is the same as the Seattle Seahawks losing football games so they can play Community college teams!

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Originally Posted by Mallan

No, not really.

Commanding troops requires tasks to be assigned to groups, to be accomplished. No one group can get the job done alone. Some groups will need more... personal direction than others, and all personnel will require a watchful eye for one reason or another. There is less difference that you would imagine.;)

I'm a toolmaker by trade now and the same truths hold true for me now, as it does for Game Developing, as it does for commanding troops.

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So you found similarities. The point is its not a war, it's a game, and the idea presented here does not work unless you alter the entire game.

But to take the analogy that was given, the troops you take to war with you that you don't deploy do survive the battle and go back to your army camps. Out of the troops you deploy though, how many of them survive to the end without taking a single hit? And in war, if you take a hit during a battle, how likely is it that you will be called to fight again in the very next battle? Isn't it more likely that you'd be removed from the front lines for treatment until you heal? And even if you weren't wounded, the exertion of the battle has likely left you at less than 100%. If you're going for a more realistic interpretation of what happens in war, this would have to be taken into consideration as well.