Loot System fixes ideas

A lot of clashers have been complaining about loot since the last update, that allowed players to spend elixir on walls above level six.

I also agree that there seems to be a lot less elixir out there. But what can we or Supercell do to fix this?

While there is little we can do to combat the shortage of elixir available only a couple of things come to mind.

What we can do:

• More people could put there TH on the outside of the bases allowing people to get easy loot bonus thus adding more loot into the economy.
• Players could try pushing with cheaper armies like garch to easily get one star raids and loot bonus.
• I didn't have any luck finding loot when i dropped cups back down to crystal 3, but dropping cups to find inactive bases always worked in the past. (Plz comment if this work for you, maybe i shoud have dropped lower Iam level 110 pretty close to max th9)

What supercell can do:

• Increase loot bonuses
• Decrease troop cost
• Decrease spell cost
• Troops that don't die gets converted back into elixir
• Change how wall upgrading works., so that you can only us elixir on wall one level below your townhall's max wall level

Create other means of making loot:

• Add single player mode that regenerates daily
• Add ships like in BoomBeach that return with loot daily
• Maybe be able to make more loot or gems for success defense or for just killing troops

Just views not comments?

The prices of things (all things, not just walls) vs the generating ability of resources (mines, drills, attacking) is way off kilter.
Especially with the amount of available loot for attacks, it is nearly impossible to upgrade much of anything without spending real-world money.
I do realize that part of your business model includes in game purchases, but that should be to speed up progress rather than being the only practical way to upgrade.
Please consider some sort of change, perhaps making a weekly cap on attackable loot rather than per attack, or decreasing the percentage available, or decreasing prices of upgrades, or something.
Hitting a constant wall of frustration doesn't make me buy more gems, it makes me go play other games.
For example: for the last month I have been trying to accumulate enough to upgrade a wizard tower from 4 to 5, but can never get beyond about a million and a half. That's with all possible mines/drills at maximum level. The only thing I can think of is to go attack and surrender a bunch of times to make all my trophies go away so I can be left in peace. That's just dumb, no fun at all, and not going to get me to want to play.

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Originally Posted by Nym

A lot of clashers have been complaining about loot since the last update, that allowed players to spend elixir on walls above level six.

I also agree that there seems to be a lot less elixir out there. But what can we or Supercell do to fix this?

While there is little we can do to combat the shortage of elixir available only a couple of things come to mind.

What we can do:

• More people could put there TH on the outside of the bases allowing people to get easy loot bonus thus adding more loot into the economy.
• Players could try pushing with cheaper armies like garch to easily get one star raids and loot bonus.
• I didn't have any luck finding loot when i dropped cups back down to crystal 3, but dropping cups to find inactive bases always worked in the past. (Plz comment if this work for you, maybe i shoud have dropped lower Iam level 110 pretty close to max th9)

What supercell can do:

• Increase loot bonuses
• Decrease troop cost
• Decrease spell cost
• Troops that don't die in battle return to arm camps
• Change how wall upgrading works., so that you can only us elixir on wall one level below your townhall's max wall level

Create other means of making loot:

• Add single player mode that regenerates daily
• Add ships like in BoomBeach that return with loot daily
• Maybe be able to make more loot or gems for success defense or for just killing troops

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troops that don't die in battle return to army camps change that to troops that don't die gets converted back into elixir for example say a lvl 3 dragon didn't die lvl 3 dragons costs 36,000 elixir so 36,000 elixir gets put back in your storage or half of 36,000 either way

and the add single player mode that regenerates daily I believe at the beginning of every month they should fill all the storages in the single player maps the last one you can get 800k elixir so that would be put back in it 800k every month daily would be too much supercell would never do that remember there are more than just one single player map that gives you a boat load of resources

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Originally Posted by Nym

A lot of clashers have been complaining about loot since the last update, that allowed players to spend elixir on walls above level six.

I also agree that there seems to be a lot less elixir out there. But what can we or Supercell do to fix this?

While there is little we can do to combat the shortage of elixir available only a couple of things come to mind.

What we can do:

• More people could put there TH on the outside of the bases allowing people to get easy loot bonus thus adding more loot into the economy.
• Players could try pushing with cheaper armies like garch to easily get one star raids and loot bonus.
• I didn't have any luck finding loot when i dropped cups back down to crystal 3, but dropping cups to find inactive bases always worked in the past. (Plz comment if this work for you, maybe i shoud have dropped lower Iam level 110 pretty close to max th9)

What supercell can do:

• Increase loot bonuses
• Decrease troop cost
• Decrease spell cost
• Troops that don't die in battle return to arm camps
• Change how wall upgrading works., so that you can only us elixir on wall one level below your townhall's max wall level

Create other means of making loot:

• Add single player mode that regenerates daily
• Add ships like in BoomBeach that return with loot daily
• Maybe be able to make more loot or gems for success defense or for just killing troops

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Meh, not all for it. The loot is perfectly balanced, I know so many Clashers still racking up millions a day.
They are also already adding/considering loot fix features.

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Originally Posted by Nym

Just views not comments?

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This is considered bumping, don't do it.

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Originally Posted by EpicChris

Meh, not all for it. The loot is perfectly balanced, I know so many Clashers still racking up millions a day.
They are also already adding/considering loot fix features.

This is considered bumping, don't do it.

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"Perfectly" not sure about that seemed to work a lot better before the wall upgrade update.

I'am still racking up millions daily also. I made this thread simple to discuss other clashers opinions and ideas on the loot topic.

I would have preferred either reducing the price of walls or creating a conversion building to making walls upgradable with e.


That said, I think special edition goblin maps could be good, but you'd have to have different ones per level maybe, which is a lot of work. Don't have them regenerate, just have a new one each month.

Do troops that don't die already get converted into partial elixir? If not this is a good idea. Not the full cost, but even 20% would be ice.

Level 12 collectors and mines anyone?

I also think Supercell should look at changing the normal cost to boost collectors and mines. I actually think they would make more money by reducing the cost here, say from 5 to 2 at level 5, up to 8 instead of 11 at level 11, because more people would use the boost more regularly. That, or what I would prefer to see is make it 5 gems no matter what level your collectors and mines are.

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Originally Posted by Bobifred

The prices of things (all things, not just walls) vs the generating ability of resources (mines, drills, attacking) is way off kilter.
Especially with the amount of available loot for attacks, it is nearly impossible to upgrade much of anything without spending real-world money.
I do realize that part of your business model includes in game purchases, but that should be to speed up progress rather than being the only practical way to upgrade.
Please consider some sort of change, perhaps making a weekly cap on attackable loot rather than per attack, or decreasing the percentage available, or decreasing prices of upgrades, or something.
Hitting a constant wall of frustration doesn't make me buy more gems, it makes me go play other games.
For example: for the last month I have been trying to accumulate enough to upgrade a wizard tower from 4 to 5, but can never get beyond about a million and a half. That's with all possible mines/drills at maximum level. The only thing I can think of is to go attack and surrender a bunch of times to make all my trophies go away so I can be left in peace. That's just dumb, no fun at all, and not going to get me to want to play.

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Gemming as the only practical way to upgrade? Not really. All it does is make you able to upgrade something sooner than later, and that just speeds it up. that's all. Its easy to get loot and upgrade.

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Originally Posted by awesomness2016

I would have preferred either reducing the price of walls or creating a conversion building to making walls upgradable with e.


That said, I think special edition goblin maps could be good, but you'd have to have different ones per level maybe, which is a lot of work. Don't have them regenerate, just have a new one each month.

Do troops that don't die already get converted into partial elixir? If not this is a good idea. Not the full cost, but even 20% would be ice.

Level 12 collectors and mines anyone?

I also think Supercell should look at changing the normal cost to boost collectors and mines. I actually think they would make more money by reducing the cost here, say from 5 to 2 at level 5, up to 8 instead of 11 at level 11, because more people would use the boost more regularly. That, or what I would prefer to see is make it 5 gems no matter what level your collectors and mines are.

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I bolded something above. You do realize that you CAN upgrade walls with elixir, right?

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Originally Posted by ColonelAwesome

I bolded something above. You do realize that you CAN upgrade walls with elixir, right?

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Yes, hence the use of conditional phrasing. *would have preferred*

I am saying if I were Supercell, I wouldn't have made that change, but instead addressed the issue with walls taking an insane amount of gold to upgrade by making walls cheaper, or creating a building that converts resources. Reason being that having more e available for looting than gold (which was the case before and not now) makes sense since most people spend way more on armies than on gold for matching, at least at higher trophy levels.