Hierarchy changes + banned list

I'll start this thread by describing a problem we've all encountered before.

A new member joins the clan and gets promoted to elder after x-amount of time (usually too soon). Without knowing this new member, who now became an elder, suffers from spontaneous mental breakdowns he suddenly kicks everyone who's not protected by the "elder" title.
Result? Half the clan is gone. Huge setback.
Action? The clanleader and others think of a new way: Why not make everyone elder, so nobody but the leader can kick members? Okay, that works. As long as the clanleader stays active that is.
Problem? One of the elders (who's been in the clan for like two days) turns out to be a huge dramaqueen and thus pissing of several other members.
If that dramaqueen plays in a different time zone than the leader, chances of him getting kicked anytime soon are slim.

Another excuse we hear often after someone kicked all the "members": "It was my friend who played on my iDevice who did it. Bad friend, bad! Please don't kick me."

Here is what might be a better solution for the way the hierarchy works now:

1. Clanleader
   
   • x1
   • Abilities: Kick new members + members + officers. Promote new members + members.
   
   
2. Officer
   
   • Undifined amount. Keep it limited though.
   • Abilities: Kick new members + members. Promote new members + members.
   
   
3. Members
   
   • They can't kick anyone, nor promote anyone.
   
   
4. New members
   
   • Their title indicates they are new to the clan and are running their trial period to see if they fit in the clan. After x-amount of time, an officer or the clanleader can promote the new member to a member. Imo, a good trial period is atleast 3 weeks for Clash of Clans.

If the clanleader is smart, he makes about 5 people officer. People who have been in the clan a long time, are trustworthy and preferably play in different time zones. This way, there is almost always an officer around should you need one.
An officer as i describe them is much like an elder as we know them today.
However, there are much much less of them and therefore reduces the chances of "bad things", like triggerhappy kicking people, from happening.

Other idea that is worth considering:
To counter clan hoppers, and especially the kind that keeps trying to get into a specific clan: Implement the ability to "ban" someone. A good system would be to have a "banned"-list that only the clanleader (and officers) can see. The clanleader has a "+" and a "-" to add and remove people from that list.
When someone tries to join a specific clan, his names gets run through the ban-list first. If his name is on it, the members won't even see the invite in the chat screen and the one trying to join gets a popup window "banned from this clan, etc.."

I think there should be an overall leader and up to two co-leaders who can pretty much have the role of a leader (apart from clan messaging). This would counter the different time zones and I have experienced half of a clan being wiped out by one person. I also think that there should be a cooldown before kicking people, such as 5 or 10 minutes. This would stop the clan being wiped out so quickly, and other elders in any instance can promote others so they can not be kicked.

In my clan, we have each other on gamecentre as a requirement and the elders use an app called glassboard to communicate. This is very useful.

I agree with this post 100%. The game needs a new hierarchy system. I think the idea of having it as u said leader, then officers, then members, and new members is great and I hope that implement a new system soon as we have been asking for this for sometime now. I don't think it would be too hard to have added this already and they're just making a million dollars a day to sit on their butt and play their own game that needs radical improvements in certain areas. Aside from the new leadership system an offline/last online feature needs to be in place for players that often go inactive and we are stuck thinking that the player is either on vacation, sick, dead, or stopped playing. we have been asking for this for TOO LONG now Supercell, put it in the game already..this is why ur getting paid..

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Originally Posted by Ortenga

I'll start this thread by describing a problem we've all encountered before.

A new member joins the clan and gets promoted to elder after x-amount of time (usually too soon). Without knowing this new member, who now became an elder, suffers from spontaneous mental breakdowns he suddenly kicks everyone who's not protected by the "elder" title.
Result? Half the clan is gone. Huge setback.
Action? The clanleader and others think of a new way: Why not make everyone elder, so nobody but the leader can kick members? Okay, that works. As long as the clanleader stays active that is.
Problem? One of the elders (who's been in the clan for like two days) turns out to be a huge dramaqueen and thus pissing of several other members.
If that dramaqueen plays in a different time zone than the leader, chances of him getting kicked anytime soon are slim.

Another excuse we hear often after someone kicked all the "members": "It was my friend who played on my iDevice who did it. Bad friend, bad! Please don't kick me."

Here is what might be a better solution for the way the hierarchy works now:

1. Clanleader
   
   • x1
   • Abilities: Kick new members + members + officers. Promote new members + members.
   
   
2. Officer
   
   • Undifined amount. Keep it limited though.
   • Abilities: Kick new members + members. Promote new members + members.
   
   
3. Members
   
   • They can't kick anyone, nor promote anyone.
   
   
4. New members
   
   • Their title indicates they are new to the clan and are running their trial period to see if they fit in the clan. After x-amount of time, an officer or the clanleader can promote the new member to a member. Imo, a good trial period is atleast 3 weeks for Clash of Clans.

If the clanleader is smart, he makes about 5 people officer. People who have been in the clan a long time, are trustworthy and preferably play in different time zones. This way, there is almost always an officer around should you need one.
An officer as i describe them is much like an elder as we know them today.
However, there are much much less of them and therefore reduces the chances of "bad things", like triggerhappy kicking people, from happening.

Other idea that is worth considering:
To counter clan hoppers, and especially the kind that keeps trying to get into a specific clan: Implement the ability to "ban" someone. A good system would be to have a "banned"-list that only the clanleader (and officers) can see. The clanleader has a "+" and a "-" to add and remove people from that list.
When someone tries to join a specific clan, his names gets run through the ban-list first. If his name is on it, the members won't even see the invite in the chat screen and the one trying to join gets a popup window "banned from this clan, etc.."

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Leader is here already here
officer is called elder
member is already here
new member is already here??

as for is leaders are smart bit.... Well if there smart they only make people they trust elder and only have a a few 5-10 in a full clan of 50 is plenty,

you don't need to ban people just set your clan to invite only so only elders can let people in,

the best thing that could happen to this game is to make it clan castle lv2 and 200k to make a clan, that would stop every noob and he's dog starting a clan, as these problems only happen to noob clans,

Ortenga, your system is unnecessarily complex.

Currently, we have a three tier system: Leader, Elder and Member.
Like you, I suggest a four tier system: Leader, Elder, Member and Recruit.
But it can be far simpler than you present.

Leader: Stays the same.
Elder: Can invite and promote recruits. Can kick Members and Recruits.
Member: Can invite and kick Recruits.
Recruit: cannot invite or kick.

Why it should be done: the power to kick is much more 'dangerous' than the power to invite. There are plenty of members in my clan who I'd trust with the power to invite, but whom I don't know well enough to trust with the power to kick. So... create a class of clan member that may be rewarded with the power to invite without worrying they'll kick half the clan.

As for the banned list... I see it's merit. For two months we had the same guy, Superfirebatman, apply to our clan. After a while, we decided to let him in, ask him stop, then kicked him. Next we resorted to admitting him, berating him, then kicking him. (no I don't like being a bully. We tried nice and it didn't work). When berating failed to work, we went back to rejecting him. It stopped after two months, but that's a long time to have someone pestering you. (To this day, I've NO idea why superfirebatman wanted to join us. He never gave any explanation even when asked directly.) I would have banned him from requesting if I had that power.

Ompus, Clan Maudite, Leader