BiG BoSS's journey to lvl 40 heroes (with guides for clan wars and DE farming too)

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Table of contents:
1. About my journey (updating every 14 days with new stats about my GG,EE,HH, walls and heroes lvls)
2. My base The Ultimator ( whole base design, defense logs àlink)
3. About my clan
4. Some facts about DE (every DE hardcore farmer must know this)
5. Different attacking strategies
6. Legaues where to farm DE,Gold,Elix
7. How to improve your attacking, what to attack
8. My tip on: how to upgrading walls
9. How to stop hate zapping! How to zapp correctly
10. Clan wars –how to win every clan war
11. My plans for future

Let's start :)
1.I started my journey on 23rd September 2014.
So in this time from then to now I have been upgrading heroes one at time.
On 1st October I decided to start seriously upgrading my walls (they was ♥♥♥♥ before). When 1 gem boost event started i was able to farm enough DE to fill my storage in 2 days so I decided to put my heroes back to sleeping (both at once).
I started with king, and exactly 3 days and 12 hours after him I upgraded queen. So I upgrading my heroes now every 3 days and 12 hours :)

Stats: 30/12/2014
http://shrani.si/f/a/6f/4PG6s44O/30122014.png
I started with Lavas ( Level 10 walls ) on 25th December 2014.
4/1/2015
http://shrani.si/f/2M/qO/trk7DZz/1/stats-412015.pngSome progress with Lavas I also reached 1 mio. Heroic Heist.

18/1/2015
http://shrani.si/f/L/Am/4MPZfZ8E/slika-za-forum.png

Heroes : - King upgrading on 19
- Queen upgrading on 16
2. The Ultimator
I used a lot of TH9 bases ( Cogwheel, Ringus by peabak, Cloud Whisky's base, the originator by vinnyXo and tons of other bases ). But I wasn't happy with result of any bases (except The Prime by superwolf (but DE protection is bad)) . So I decided to create my own farming base.
The base is good for TH10 too (when I reach TH10 I will share TH10 base design).
http://shrani.si/f/2K/13J/3cvIgUH0/for-farming.png
For full base design and defense logs click on image ( new thread with base design will open ).

3. About my clan
I've created my clan on 24.12.2014 right on Christmas evening :) I invited my friends into and we started with wars. Of course everything is under my control, organization is perfect. How to organize war correctly you can read in part 10.
So we are currently closed, if anyone want to visit me, send me PM and I will open clan in no time :) Everybody is welcome, even if someone want to play one or two wars with us :) And yes we are still undefeated.

Our series :
Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nooZRaU5jRY
4.Dark Elixir avaiable from different lvls of DE storagehttp://shrani.si/f/3k/uX/3glq6LJf/de-.png
Dark elixir avaiable from different lvls of DE drills (if they are full)


http://shrani.si/f/2S/wh/2kQ0exQb/de-drill-.png
I suggest that you upgrade your storage to max lvl avaiable for your town hall. With this you will reduce your DE lost if someone zapp you ( more hitpoints, less DE stolen from zapping ;) ).

5.Army composition and legaues where to farm DE,Gold,Elix

At this point I will mix TH9 and TH10 together. In army the only difference is one lvl higher troops and 20 more space in camps.

~BArch with wb's

http://shrani.si/f/3s/M6/SPBHJby/cla...-update-20.jpg

--> 2x wb in all barracks ( 8 wb's total ), 2 barracks full of archers
and 2 barracks full of barbarians (unboosted). If you boost then
4x wb in 2 of your boosted barracks, 1 barrack full of archers (boosted),
one barrack full of barbarians (boosted). Rest two unboosted barracks:
one full with archers, second full of barbarians.
-->This is the cheapest army. Witouth spells it cost around 60 – 80k Elixir
-->For spells I suggest 4 lightings (how to use them in part 9)
-->Finished army composition should be something like that: 8 wb's, 80-100 archars, 90-120 barbarians
-->You can also add some minions (5-12 minions)-BAM

~Balloonion

http://shrani.si/f/1A/SM/4i1vlbO/200px-balloonnew.png http://shrani.si/f/1A/SM/4i1vlbO/200px-balloonnew.png

--> 20 – 28 balloons (5-7 in each barrack)
--> 40-60 minions (20-30 in each Dark barrack)
--> This army is pretty good to farm, but it's much more expensive than BArch. Total cost around :110k Elixir (without spells) and 400-600 DE. For spells I reccommend 2 rage/ 2 heal or 3 rage / 1 heal.
--> For clan castle troops: balloons (lvl 6) or minions (lvl 5+).
Army is appropriated for farming in master 3.

~GiBArch with wb's

http://shrani.si/f/2g/EB/4Gyx5d4R/level-6-giant.jpghttp://shrani.si/f/2g/EB/4Gyx5d4R/level-6-giant.jpghttp://shrani.si/f/2g/EB/4Gyx5d4R/level-6-giant.jpg
--> 8-16 giants (2-4 per barrack), 8-12 wb's (2-3 per barrack),
then two barracks full of arcrhars and two barracks full of barbarians
--> For spells : 2 rage/2 heal, 3 heal/ 1 rage, 1 rage/1 lighting (to kill
CC troops/2 heal
--> CC troops: archars or giants lvl 6+
--> You can also add some minions ( 5-12 minions)-GiBAM
Total cost is 100k+ Elixir without spells

6. Legaues where to farm DE, Gold and Elix

http://shrani.si/f/2c/rm/2BcMN0vj/2/...ll-level-9.jpg
--> For TH9 I reccommend floating between Gold 1 and Cry 3 (1800-2200). You can get Cry 2 shield and floating above 2100. When there is no loot in cry 3 it's loot in gold 1 and cry 2 (tested). Loot is pretty much the same in gold 1 to cry 3. I'm trying to stay above 2000 trophies, when I can't find any loot here I just jump a bit higher (2150 trophies).
--> Crystal 3 is for me the best legaue to farm in. You can find Elixir, Gold and DE. Sometimes you find all together, sometimes you are focus only on 1 resource. And sweet legaue bonus. If I find 100k dead base I will farm it without thinking. With legaue bonus I get 135k resources splitted, all together 270k :) Not bad. And 100 DE is good to, especially when you sniping town halls.
http://shrani.si/f/31/Rq/10IOxCQ3/2/townhalllevel10.png
--> For TH10 I suggest Gold 1 and Crystal 3 for premmie TH10's (without Infernos and 3rd X-Bow). Once you get your Infernos to lvl 3 and your 3rd X-Bow I suggest farming in master 3 or higher ( with master badge above 2500-2700). I'm not TH10 yet but a lot of my friends barching in master 3 ( balooning too, more about that in part 6).
-->With Infernos and new X-Bow your base will be much stronger than every TH9. In master 3 the legaue bonus is100k/100k/500. So only with TH snipes you can farm everything what you want. If you find dead bases it's even better. So I recommend master 3 for TH10.

7. How to improve your attacking

Here are my tips for farming :
~ Always be sure that you can get what you want from attack

~ Always assess base ( try to do your best to get 50%, if you get all the loot at 25% and then trying to get 50% and you failed at 49% then you throw away half of your army. And you need to wait again for new one :))

~ Spend as much troops as you need to beat opponent, nothing less and nothing more

~ Always have CC troops with you, they can save you to get the loot or 50%

~ Check for opponents CC troops first and check the possitions where you think
that bombs are (check air bombs with 1-3 minions)

~ Release wall breakers as soon as mortar reloading his bullet

~ Spawn 2-3 wall breakers at once, use barbarians for cover before AT's, cannons,...

~ Use barbarians as tank for your archars, try to spawn troops with 3-4 fingers

~ I split DE farming from farming Gold or Elixir. When I farming DE (one day before Hero is upgraded) I'm using lighting spells. When I'm farming Gold or Elixir I don't use any spells. I simply get used to that. I don't need spells to barch, they are too expensive for me. I use them only for wars (and zapping of course). In this way I spare around 800k-1,2 mio. Elixir per day. Not bad ;)

~ Of course when you are farming DE you will loot any juicy dead base :) I'm doing the same. If I'm not focus on DE and if I find 2k DE that is easy to get I will go for it without thinking :)

~ And get this loot ! :D

Some pictures what to attack

Easy raid, try to focus on one thing so DE or resources. I tried to took both

http://shrani.si/f/1R/13X/3u3JLKMC/2/dead-base.png

Decisions, decisions hehe :) Take this Elixir or DE?

http://shrani.si/f/3B/Mj/p0YTQCm/2/s...-01-15-09-.png

Easy DE, especially with Cry 3 legaue bonus ( 700+ easy DE )

http://shrani.si/f/2b/Wc/1uto1u5q/2/easy-de-to-get.png

8. My tips on: How to upgrading walls

First of all. Walls are one of most important factors in the game. A lot of you guys thinking. Why you need walls, we can fly over with balloons. It's not like that. Why then everybody don't have lvl 1 walls? If we take a look on two TH9's.
First : lvl 7 walls, opponent is not scared at all. He thinks: Phaha wata walls :) I can easily get trought this walls ( and only 2500 hitpoints )

Second : hardcore farmer with lvl 10 walls. Opponent will not attack you if he is not confident or if he has lvl 8 walls or lower (maybe with gowiwi and balloonion hehe).
Well with wb's he can break into 1st layer of walls. But right before center of the base. BOOM lvl 10 walls with 5500 hitpoints. He has nothing. Barbs are not useful then if there is splash damage, he has no chances. Wb's will not survive if he send them right to center. His only hope are heroes. And yes most of peoples who attacking, let's say me are too confident and their troops are death before they break into 2nd layer of walls.


And now. How I upgrading walls. Fist you must to ensure your builders to working non stop. Rest of resources you can dump into walls ( you can have 1 builder free ).
LVL 8 walls: - split it. Gold for lvl 8 walls, with Elixir upgrade lvl 8 walls to lvl 9

LVL 9 walls: - once you will finish lvl 8 walls with gold, you will have some lvl 9 walls. Upgrade exactly 2/3 (166 of 250) to lvl 9. Then...

LVL 10 walls: - then start with Lavas! How many lavas? Try to upgrade at least your core to all Lavas. This is test. If you made it quickly (2-5 Lavas per day) that means that you should do all Lavas as TH9. If not then just return and finish all lvl9 walls.
When you finish your core, return to upgrading lvl9 walls. You will see. Much easier J
I used this strategy. Before I made Lava core I was able to farm 6-10 legos (lvl 9 walls) per day. When I returned to making lvl 9 walls I was able to make 12-20 legos per day. Pretty amazing :)

9. How to stop hate zapping

Zapping. Ewwh they zapp me all the time and zappers are sukcs ßi read that many times on this forum. But is this true? I dont think so ;)

What is zapping about? It's not just zapping for DE. You can take out mortars or wizzard towers if you are barching and this can help you to take all what you want. You can zapp DE Drills too. From full DE Drill you got more DE than from DE storage with 2500+ DE inside. Why? Because DE Drill has less hitpoints and if its full you got 75% DE from it ( If it's lvl 6 -->1350, lvl 5 Drill -->960 ). I recommend zapping lvl 5 drill or higher if it is 80%+ full. More about zapping in pictures below.

First zapping storages

http://shrani.si/f/u/vY/4ws51PsY/2/z...e-storages.png

Simple as that. Defender was TH10 with exposed TH. I sniped TH and decided to zapp his DE storage because he had more than 3200+ avaiable to steal.

So with some math : lets say 5 sets (so 5*4 lighting packs) per day and 1500+ DE per zapp = 7500 DE per day just from zapping. With spell factory boosted you can make even more DE per day just with zapping. So this is effective especially if you farming gold and elixir J I farm around 20k DE per day without zapping and I'm not focusing on DE at all right now, because Heroes are still cheap at this point. When I zapping and farming DE I farm around 40k-55k DE per day (10k-15k DE per day with zapping, so 30k DE with farming).


http://shrani.si/f/1I/Cj/27HBDlPG/2/...-lightning.jpg

Zapping DE drills

http://shrani.si/f/2H/x0/1RMwxSvN/3/zapping-drill.png

Here is the case. I zapped the right one because I knew that I willbrake walls right to there. Better solution is to zapp both DE Drills at thesame time ( drop lighting right in the middle of DE drills ( center of bothDrills together ).


http://shrani.si/f/s/U3/rdywBjV/3/zapping-drill-2.png


This DE Drill was harder to reach so I decided to took it down with lightings (because there was AQ and I was too lazy to kill her, I just stole some goldmore with army :) ). So if you notice any bases like that, zapp drillwhich is harder to reach.

Zapping defenses to get what you want

http://shrani.si/f/2G/KB/EQllA8I/4/base-start.png

As you can see on picture I decided to take out this DE storage.I wasassuming that he has no CC troops and I was right (lucky for me).I used barbsas a tank and send 2 wb's. I killed first mortar with barbs, the second andthird with lighting. Then I killed wizzard towers and there no splash damageleft so he has no chances to survive
attack.Then I sent rest of archars and they took out DE storage easily.

http://shrani.si/f/3T/X7/13PFRdZB/3/base-end.png

10. How to win every clan war

Probably most problematic point of my thread. I want to expose warsbecause they bring you loot. How I see clan wars: It's a competition againstother clans. You proving yourself against other clans. So clan wars arebasically the trade : elixir and DE --> Gold with some DE. Depends on whatarmy you use, you can make profit with Elixir too without problems ( in easywars you can attack for loot (BArch or BAM)).


And now my tips how to win every clan war:

There is no clan without great leader who organize the whole thing. He is responsible for rules, accepting peoples, kicking them. And of course ( if he is the stronger in clan he must show the most and he must teach others different things ). I'm talking from my experiences in last month. How I built sucesfull clan which winning wars easily?

1. I discovered that I can't trust peoples from global. I bring some friends with me in my clan ( from RL ).I can totaly trust them

2. I set up rules! Everyone must respect rules! Even if he is my best friend

3. Top 3 guys (in my case all TH9) donate to clan castles the best troops in following order : 30 space = 1 witch (max) + wizzards + rest archers / 25 space = 1 witch + 2 wizzards + 5 archers / 20 space = 3-4 wizzards + rest archers /15 space = 1 valkyire + 3 minions + 1 archer / 10 space = 3 minons + rest archers

4. So if you are leader you must know what your team mates can beat! At the start of war you send clan mail with plan who attack who. Everyone in my clan knows that they can attack for loot if we will winning in last 12 hours. They do their best!
If somebody fail then somebody else fix target on 3 stars

5. On battle day I usually donate whatever clan mates request ( loons or giants, witches too). You must not be selfish in situations like this!

6. If somebody fail dont kick him. This is normal everyone fail sometimes. Even you ;)
If somebody is amazing in war and if he do his best, promote him, give him reward:)

7. Always have reserve with players ( in 10vs10 clan try to have at least 12 members in clan ) if somebody decide to left the clan

8. Be prepared on hard situations. Stay focus. And always have this in head : There is no loot without stars ***. Be sure to make stars first, then go for loot.
So main things: don't be selfish, stay focus, you must know attacking strengh of your team mates, help them with strategies how to attack, try to help them with war bases :)

If do you want to know anything more about CW's especially 10vs10 PM me I will answer ASAP :)
And enjoy in sweet war loot.

SUNRISE LEGION WAR LOG (click on text)



11. My plans for future :)

Interesting thing. Here is the list :

- max my town hall and walls in 50 days and then move on to TH10 (around 1st March) – heroes wil be: BK-26 and AQ-23 I hope so :D

- to open my clan when I reach TH10. I want wars 45vs45 with some other hardcore farmers :)

- to make my own youtube channel

- blog is ready it will come right then when I reach TH10 ;) Lots of stuffs already there (guides too).It's not public yet

- to get lvl 40 Heroes before July 2015 (i hope that I will reach this)

- to fully max TH10 and of course I want all zapp ( lvl 11 ) walls :)


Thanks to all who support me on this journey. Also if somebody want to war with us for war or two is welcome ( if you have any questions feel free to ask I'm online pretty much always). PM me before that I will open clan. And one more tip: Clash hard or go home ! :D

Good luck :) !

Good luck man. This is definitely easier said than done.

Brandon dedicated A LOT of time to the game. Not many people have the time to focus on it like he did.

You can make lots of DE in the upper leagues, but it can come at the expense of other resources, mostly lix. I have had my AQ upgrading 52 out of the 82 days I've been a th9, and am proud of it. However, this comes at a cost. I could have used her lots in low masters, but once I got there that's when I was able to upgrade her non-stop. Plus my elixir collection took a hit (I had to use a more expensive army with more spells). And i couldn't gain gold quite as fast as barching in gold.

I get her for a while now, because I am changing focus to BK for 5 lvls. :D

Ty both. Yup i know it's hard without Heroes but i will make it :)
More coming soon ;)

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Good luck man. This is definitely easier said than done.

Brandon dedicated A LOT of time to the game. Not many people have the time to focus on it like he did.

You can make lots of DE in the upper leagues, but it can come at the expense of other resources, mostly lix. I have had my AQ upgrading 52 out of the 82 days I've been a th9, and am proud of it. However, this comes at a cost. I could have used her lots in low masters, but once I got there that's when I was able to upgrade her non-stop. Plus my elixir collection took a hit (I had to use a more expensive army with more spells). And i couldn't gain gold quite as fast as barching in gold.

I get her for a while now, because I am changing focus to BK for 5 lvls. :D

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Joelcthon - in crystal and low masters to farm DE were you using BARCH or Ballonion?

Also, what levels are your AQ and BK?

It would be great if you share your de farming strategy like in Brandon's thread. Not too exhaustive, but details like trophy range, army combo, spells, type of bases to attack, etc. would be very helpful. 😀

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Joelcthon - in crystal and low masters to farm DE were you using BARCH or Ballonion?

Also, what levels are your AQ and BK?

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I recommend Balloonion :)

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Joelcthon - in crystal and low masters to farm DE were you using BARCH or Ballonion?

Also, what levels are your AQ and BK?

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My BK going to 9, my AQ is lvl 5 now. ;) It will take me about 185-200 days which is around 4,5 months

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Originally Posted by croc007

It would be great if you share your de farming strategy like in Brandon's thread. Not too exhaustive, but details like trophy range, army combo, spells, type of bases to attack, etc. would be very helpful. 😀

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Sure i will update thread with DE farming strategy once i will start it (on Sunday). Loonion? Hmm good idea, i'll try it as soon as i get lvl 6 loons ( that will be soon-20 days).

I'm a TH9 in Crystal 2 right now with maxed balloons and minions. I've got level 14 AQ and 14 BK. Everyone says balloonion is the best way to farm, but I still find BARCHing just to be better... I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong with ballonion or why everyone loves it so much more than me. I feel like I must be just missing something...

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I'm a TH9 in Crystal 2 right now with maxed balloons and minions. I've got level 14 AQ and 14 BK. Everyone says balloonion is the best way to farm, but I still find BARCHing just to be better... I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong with ballonion or why everyone loves it so much more than me. I feel like I must be just missing something...

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I don't think that baloonion is the best strategy for farming. It's definetly BAM or BARCH. It's cheap.

I keep doing the same army to farm gold or elix : 80 barbs/8 bombs to get into base/124 archars (th9 troops composition). I also reccomend 2 rage spells, 1 lighting spell and 1 jump spell if u dont use boms.

Good luck :)

not to derail you but your base is kinda premie for 9. I'd work on getting my defenses up some as well before pushing. Good luck!

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Joelcthon - in crystal and low masters to farm DE were you using BARCH or Ballonion?

Also, what levels are your AQ and BK?

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I was using Balloonion. And my AQ is 15 my BK is 10. A clan-mate of mine (TH10) uses archers only sometimes with gobs, and just shoots for 50% for the league bonus (unless a collector base comes along of course, hence the gobs).

Why would you use loonion to farm dark?? I use barch and get loads every day.. My queen is almost to19 getting her to 20 then king... Loonion you have to use dark elixir for minions and the wait is way longer than barch... Just a heads up.. I don't use dark and I can get 3+ attacks in while your building your army

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Why would you use loonion to farm dark?? I use barch and get loads every day.. My queen is almost to19 getting her to 20 then king... Loonion you have to use dark elixir for minions and the wait is way longer than barch... Just a heads up.. I don't use dark and I can get 3+ attacks in while your building your army

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It was a hybrid farm/push. I wanted to get to Masters for the achievement, and it was the best way for me to do it, i.e. two stars instead of one. Since I've gone back to Barch/BAM I've been doing alright in the DE gains. I do miss punching the core and getting 4k+ DE though. I'm know my ROI is better with barch.

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Originally Posted by katblue

not to derail you but your base is kinda premie for 9. I'd work on getting my defenses up some as well before pushing. Good luck!

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I agree. With your DE storages full all the time, you are going to get smashed 100% nonstop. Unless you have no gold/elixir, then they might skip your base.

i applaud the effort because this is essentially what my goal at th9 was. though i was not maxed at th8, i was quite a bit more leveled up than you (bk10, full skulls, max splash).

my macro goal for th9 was to max my heros. i'm going about it by getting my elix upgrades done first (camps, spell fac, lab and de drills to 6), max loons as my first lab upgrade, push to masters for 5th builder and farm de with loonion. so far i'm just over 3 months into th9 and i just passed 2million on my hh. i've had my queen for what feels like 2 weeks out of that time and she's going to 17 while my bk's going to 22. i farm this way because i don't need to game nonstop for loonion raids and even farming hardcore 2-3 days a week, i can pull in 200k+/week. no boosting is involved and my elixir was overflowing until this last patch when i blew most of it on walls.

with that out of the way, my advice to you is to decide how you want to farm in masters. if you're going to be boosting rax, then barch open collectors. i don't like this tactic because to get 50% you're going to need your spells and heros and to get them maxed without gemming, you have to learn how to raid without your heros. also, you will have virtually no chance at getting to centralized de storages with xbows and infernos mowing down your tier 1 troops. you could use gibarch/giwi but the build time and elix cost is more than loonion and less effective without spells. IMO the easiest way to maintain your masters 3 badge & 400de bonus/win is to tactical loon (read: witelightninghwd). doing so this way will only cost you 0-2 spells per raid which is roughly 100-180k elixir per army. you make 75k back on the loot bonus alone so you'll be sitting pretty as long as you don't burn through spells. set aside two builders for your heros and spend 2 on long gold upgrades (ie: teslas) as you won't be making gold as fast, then a 3rd on short upgrades like mine collectors, dumping resources everytime a builder's ready.

FYI with a base like that you WILL get wrecked in masters so be prepared to be raiding in long sessions if you want to avoid large setbacks. i think you'd be much better off getting your AQ to level 5 for her first ability level then farming up your xbows and at least half your splash. your air defs will suffice at level 6 but with lvl 1 bows and lvl 6 wiz towers, loonion raiders, which are the most common, won't be scared off. also, tactical looning takes practice. my first push i used the sweep attack tactic to see what my loons were capable of. my next push i learned out to tactical after knowing how much damage they could take. good luck on the journey and i'm sure your base is going to be looking VERY different in a few months from now

clash on:cool:

*edit: 150k/week in that second paragraph

Whoa I don't think you appreciate how difficult this journey will be man but I'm in your corner man. Just don't be disappointed if it becomes a bigger grind than your in for but fortunately you won't need maxed to get to champ. I just came down from 3529 as a th9 myself with my heroes.

Alright on to advice. I'm trying to max my heroes myself though stopping queen for a bit for king and wall focus. Loons are a good strategy but is not the fastest way to get DE for people who can attack often. How many attacks are you able to win per season average? Cold fury had a thread called embarking to max heroes care to join me. I'd highly reccomend you start there as we are all using the basic giant build there for DE farming. Usually 10-12 giants, 12 wb, reet garch. Not only is it more efficient but it is faster than looming in masters.

Most of us are able to easily hit 50k in a day if have the time. Do you have gems to spend occasionally? At first it will be easy to keep up but once they start becoming 130k DE it will be very nice to have a few hundred gems laying around. This giant strategy works very very well boosted and can let you get 15-20k and hour if you can boost everything and stare at your screen none stop.

Also once you start needing over 70k per level it will be hard to hold so you will need to get used to once you hit your limit of safe storage to start session playing until you hit your amounts.


Most of all have fun man
Arom

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Originally Posted by katblue

not to derail you but your base is kinda premie for 9. I'd work on getting my defenses up some as well before pushing. Good luck!

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TY, yea i know my base is not really fully upgraded as i said i skipped th8!

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Originally Posted by abefroman86

i applaud the effort because this is essentially what my goal at th9 was. though i was not maxed at th8, i was quite a bit more leveled up than you (bk10, full skulls, max splash).
my macro goal for th9 was to max my heros. i'm going about it by getting my elix upgrades done first (camps, spell fac, lab and de drills to 6), max loons as my first lab upgrade, push to masters for 5th builder and farm de with loonion. so far i'm just over 3 months into th9 and i just passed 2million on my hh. i've had my queen for what feels like 2 weeks out of that time and she's going to 17 while my bk's going to 22. i farm this way because i don't need to game nonstop for loonion raids and even farming hardcore 2-3 days a week, i can pull in 200k+/week. no boosting is involved and my elixir was overflowing until this last patch when i blew most of it on walls.

with that out of the way, my advice to you is to decide how you want to farm in masters. if you're going to be boosting rax, then barch open collectors. i don't like this tactic because to get 50% you're going to need your spells and heros and to get them maxed without gemming, you have to learn how to raid without your heros. also, you will have virtually no chance at getting to centralized de storages with xbows and infernos mowing down your tier 1 troops. you could use gibarch/giwi but the build time and elix cost is more than loonion and less effective without spells. IMO the easiest way to maintain your masters 3 badge & 400de bonus/win is to tactical loon (read: witelightninghwd). doing so this way will only cost you 0-2 spells per raid which is roughly 100-180k elixir per army. you make 75k back on the loot bonus alone so you'll be sitting pretty as long as you don't burn through spells. set aside two builders for your heros and spend 2 on long gold upgrades (ie: teslas) as you won't be making gold as fast, then a 3rd on short upgrades like mine collectors, dumping resources everytime a builder's ready.

FYI with a base like that you WILL get wrecked in masters so be prepared to be raiding in long sessions if you want to avoid large setbacks. i think you'd be much better off getting your AQ to level 5 for her first ability level then farming up your xbows and at least half your splash. your air defs will suffice at level 6 but with lvl 1 bows and lvl 6 wiz towers, loonion raiders, which are the most common, won't be scared off. also, tactical looning takes practice. my first push i used the sweep attack tactic to see what my loons were capable of. my next push i learned out to tactical after knowing how much damage they could take. good luck on the journey and i'm sure your base is going to be looking VERY different in a few months from now

clash on:cool:


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Hmm yea i don't really want to push to masters right now, i buy gems for fifth builder and for bossting barracks, Spell factory and heroes when i will go in Champ. I know how to attack without heroes and without spells ( because my Heroes upgrading all the time, i have them like 1 day and just upgrade them and so on and so on.).
Right now i making my plan because i will have only 3 workers aviable for defenses and i will upgrade splash damage first, then xbows and so on. I know how to looning very well. I attacking with loons every war so this isn't new lection for me.
Clash on my fellow and Ty :cool:

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Whoa I don't think you appreciate how difficult this journey will be man but I'm in your corner man. Just don't be disappointed if it becomes a bigger grind than your in for but fortunately you won't need maxed to get to champ. I just came down from 3529 as a th9 myself with my heroes.

Alright on to advice. I'm trying to max my heroes myself though stopping queen for a bit for king and wall focus. Loons are a good strategy but is not the fastest way to get DE for people who can attack often. How many attacks are you able to win per season average? Cold fury had a thread called embarking to max heroes care to join me. I'd highly reccomend you start there as we are all using the basic giant build there for DE farming. Usually 10-12 giants, 12 wb, reet garch. Not only is it more efficient but it is faster than looming in masters.

Most of us are able to easily hit 50k in a day if have the time. Do you have gems to spend occasionally? At first it will be easy to keep up but once they start becoming 130k DE it will be very nice to have a few hundred gems laying around. This giant strategy works very very well boosted and can let you get 15-20k and hour if you can boost everything and stare at your screen none stop.

Also once you start needing over 70k per level it will be hard to hold so you will need to get used to once you hit your limit of safe storage to start session playing until you hit your amounts.


Most of all have fun man


Arom

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Now i must answer to you man. So about this how many wins can i win in one session... I think around 500-1000 if i push very hard without boosting. Anyway i dont know why everybody said to me that i will farm in master :O. I said taht i will farm in GOLD 1, CRY 3 and if there are unrushed th8's then even my base will survive heavy attacks. I'm not scared about attackers, they are better than me they stole my loot so with this i'm cool.

About farming DE. There i don't see any problem. Because I'm going to upgrade Heroes every 3days and 12 hours i must loot around 20-40k DE per day. Thats not problem. I also have 2 drills maxed and i got 2k dark every secong day because of clan wars. If i will have any resources aviable i will upgrade my army and my wall, that isn't problem too. So will see i start journey on Sunday. My BK is lvl 9, AQ is lvl 5 now.
So i will update first thread with Screenshots and tactics how to attack and so on.

This prime's base is really good base. In 1 day there failed around 10 attackers with lvl 6 troops ( and lvl 5 hoggs, lvl 3 and 4 dragons). The best of them took me 150k gold and 89k elixir. He is lvl 126 with maxed xbows, infernos, splash damage etc.... And his BK nd AQ are both lvl 26. So I'm not scared).
Gems. I have gems so that's not the problem.
I will check cold fury's thread thanks for that.
And yea i saw your base. Nice man u are good
Ty for your opinion :o

My goal as a TH9 was to try to max my base to its potential. I realized though that heros took the longest to max so from day 1 of TH9, my sole focus was to upgrade my heros. Finally, I can say that I'm done with heros. I'm now maxing the rest of my defenses before I start th10 within a few weeks.

For me, barching in C2 and C1 worked wonders. With some boosting, I was able to upgrade heros non stop.

I wish you the very best.

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My goal as a TH9 was to try to max my base to its potential. I realized though that heros took the longest to max so from day 1 of TH9, my sole focus was to upgrade my heros. Finally, I can say that I'm done with heros. I'm now maxing the rest of my defenses before I start th10 within a few weeks.

For me, barching in C2 and C1 worked wonders. With some boosting, I was able to upgrade heros non stop.

I wish you the very best.

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How long did it take you? I'm max TH9 and working on leveling up my heroes. I'm AQ22 and BK19. At what point did the heroes get "good"?

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My goal as a TH9 was to try to max my base to its potential. I realized though that heros took the longest to max so from day 1 of TH9, my sole focus was to upgrade my heros. Finally, I can say that I'm done with heros. I'm now maxing the rest of my defenses before I start th10 within a few weeks.

For me, barching in C2 and C1 worked wonders. With some boosting, I was able to upgrade heros non stop.

I wish you the very best.

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Ty so as i calculated i need 140 days to max my heroes to lvl 30 if u upgrade them non stop. Fot totaly maxed base i need aroun 145 days with 3 builders left. So i will start with upgrading heroes. It's not hard to find opponents with de inside. In 2 hours i looted around 8k de without boost and with 3 barracks ( i upgrade one). So the start is good will see what happens 👍
Can u tell me you ign and clan? U can send private message if u want i really want to see your base 😃

I have averaged a net 40k a day farming with loons in m3 and m2. The league bonus almost covers the cost of the minions and I have hit many bases for 3k or more. Plus I got a boatload of gold. I dumped all the gold into walls to make myself a less attractive target.

The problem is that any th9 with a large pool of dark is extremely vulnerable to th10s and other th9s. So, in masters, I just put out my townhall and get a shield 9/10 times, especially below 2900.

Amazingly, I have found that a th9 is more likely to be pillaged for his DE in crystal than in masters. It makes sense....people go to crystal looking for DE, they mostly go to masters to push (except for us farmers).

However, the game is more advanced than when Brandon farmed. More th10s are near max. The addition of level 13 archer towers and lvl 8 teslas has made life for th9s much harder. Masters 2 is a much more difficult place than it was even a few months ago. Crystal 3 no longer has the horde of dead bases that once resided there as there are too mant dark e farmers.

Good luck.

m2 was hard enough pre-update for a th9 looner from an attacking standpoint, i shudder to think what it would be like now. bigboss, i misread your original post and thought you were going to be farming in masters.

i agree with misthaufen in that m3 is the place to be (2500-2700 cups with the masters badge for the league bonus). with non boosted loons i can average 6-9k de/hour including league bonus for wins & th snipes. toss in the dark elixir upgrades on the labs and you'll be smashing through your hero levels without sitting on a full de storage, especially when they starts to cost 80k+ each. to each their own but imo this is the most efficient way to minimize gem usage & playtime... and you strike me as a person who wants to make the most of their (hopefully short) time as th9 :)

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Alright on to advice. I'm trying to max my heroes myself though stopping queen for a bit for king and wall focus. Loons are a good strategy but is not the fastest way to get DE for people who can attack often. How many attacks are you able to win per season average? Cold fury had a thread called embarking to max heroes care to join me. I'd highly reccomend you start there as we are all using the basic giant build there for DE farming. Usually 10-12 giants, 12 wb, reet garch. Not only is it more efficient but it is faster than looming in masters.

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Could you teach me how to use giants? I've tried over and over again but can never get to the core.. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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How long did it take you? I'm max TH9 and working on leveling up my heroes. I'm AQ22 and BK19. At what point did the heroes get "good"?

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Feels like it was 4-5 months. Sadly, never knew when heros got good cause I rarely used them. When heros go nerfed, I couldn't really tell since I had used them so little.

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Ty so as i calculated i need 140 days to max my heroes to lvl 30 if u upgrade them non stop. Fot totaly maxed base i need aroun 145 days with 3 builders left. So i will start with upgrading heroes. It's not hard to find opponents with de inside. In 2 hours i looted around 8k de without boost and with 3 barracks ( i upgrade one). So the start is good will see what happens 👍
Can u tell me you ign and clan? U can send private message if u want i really want to see your base 😃

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IGN PkimbaP
Clan name: midnight legion (were the clan with highest trophies)

Good luck with the grind.

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Feels like it was 4-5 months. Sadly, never knew when heros got good cause I rarely used them. When heros go nerfed, I couldn't really tell since I had used them so little.



IGN PkimbaP
Clan name: midnight legion (were the clan with highest trophies)

Good luck with the grind.

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http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post2061023

Post by coldfury ( there is stragtegy with giants - it's perfect i will use it)

I started with journey today because my DE already overflows ! It's not hard and now it's 1 gem boost for diggers so i can made 10k DE per day with just collecting DE from diggers.
WOW Your village is amazing! Do you have any advices about that how to max village the fastest like your village. It's awesome! Or i just visit your clan and u tell me how to do this etc. if u want and if u have time?:)

I stopped the journey for now... Not really stopped, but I will upgrade my heroes one at the time... First I will max my TH and then farm DE for heroes :D

Currently I am doing the same, maxing my TH9. Then, i will start working on heroes.
In fact, I have both heroes at lvl 10 now, as they helps a lot in farming.. :p

I doing exactly the same thing, my BK lvl 10 is finished for some time now... Now AQ to 10 ( lvl 7 now) and then I will focus on maxing my base and upgrading DE troops :D

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I doing exactly the same thing, my BK lvl 10 is finished for some time now... Now AQ to 10 ( lvl 7 now) and then I will focus on maxing my base and upgrading DE troops :D

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Go boss goo! I know you can do it. =]

you dont need heroes lvl 30 to get in champions league as a th9

Good luck with that. I would like to know if you plan on sleeping at all. Have you thought about the math of this and that you wont make it to champs with lvl 5 trooops. The max you can take from a TH nine as a TH nine from a DE storage is 2.5 DE. Thats 60 raids for the max AQ and 4 less for the BK. Thats starting at lvl 29, not 5. Good luck

ewwww bro work on your walls! thats eye cancer... lol

Dude,I got my base to worry about!

Hey mate, I am also working on my BK and AQ, currently my AQ is level 6 and BK is going on level 12.

Heroic Hiest stands at 780k.

Good luck its a long run, I am farming DE in gold 2 BTW, pretty much easy 1000+ DE raids.

So journey go on. I edit my fist thread and thanks all for support. Now it's going for real ;)

My hero's are lev 10.... More than enough to get all loot from th8... Focusing on gold and elixir so I dropped from high gold 1 to sweet spot..my plan is to upgrade then later with walls..

Just take your time and don't rush :o

I am "wall-ing" and max-ing both heroes just with barch.
I will max 2 more ATs and all bombs once I start with lava walls.

Farming DE in Master / Crystal --- currently AQ on the way to 16 and BK at 18.
Farming gold / elixir for walls in gold (rarely get raided with 'empty' storages).

There are more inactives in gold leagues than in crystal/master leagues.

Once in a while, I see th 9/10 with a loaded DE storage that I can't reach with barch ;)

A note to all DE farmers, clashers in gold leagues (1,2,3) will 90% LS your DE if you have plenty of it (especially on revenge) :rolleyes:

i will try to max my heroes based on what the builder can give me..
it is really not possible without a sleeping builder and based on my current farm rate.
i think i can reach lv 25 on both bk and aq.

they are currently lvl 10bk and lvl 4 aq. around 2 weeks on th 9.

So yea journey starts again as I said. King upgrading to 11, Queen going to 11 in 2 days. So i calculated upgrading times for Heroes : they will be finished in 130 days which is around 4 months.

With walls i dont have any problems. I started with skull walls 5 days ago, i upgrade 10-15 skulls per day so skulls will be finished in 14 days, then lego walls which will be finished for new year and then finally lava walls. I will finished with lava walls around March 1st, 2015. And then only one month left for heroes. After reaching heroes lvl 30 i will push to champion legaue and create my own clan. :cool:

I wish all Heroes pushers the best, lets get this DE!
Clash on
GL, BB;)

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So yea journey starts again as I said. King upgrading to 11, Queen going to 11 in 2 days. So i calculated upgrading times for Heroes : they will be finished in 130 days which is around 4 months.

With walls i dont have any problems. I started with skull walls 5 days ago, i upgrade 10-15 skulls per day so skulls will be finished in 14 days, then lego walls which will be finished for new year and then finally lava walls. I will finished with lava walls around March 1st, 2015. And then only one month left for heroes. After reaching heroes lvl 30 i will push to champion legaue and create my own clan. :cool:

I wish all Heroes pushers the best, lets get this DE!
Clash on
GL, BB;)

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Good plan.

Best of luck!

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Good plan.

Best of luck!

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Ty. I wish you the best too ;)

BB

Can you suggest a d.e farming base for th9 with new 4th mortar. Thank you

Same here. Doing DE farming to max my heroes (currently both are going to 15) together with lvl 10 walls.. Farming at crystal league, 2100+ using barch. Hoping that i can have them max before moving to th10. Expected in about 3-4 months.

So my attacking strategy is like in that thread from Elternal625

This guide is exelent, read it and make sure to subscribe ;)

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...evel-40-Heroes

After long time thread is live again!
First and second post are freshed I add some tips for farm and why clan wars are good for you :)

Anyway I made brand new TH9 farming base : The Ultimator

I present you The Ultimator farming base design for TH9
http://shrani.si/f/1n/62/4XWdjUsk/ba...e-ultimato.png
Pros: - storages are protected well by wizz towers and mortars
- a lot of empty places ( you can change the position of traps if you want. They are wel placed
for me). Attacker don't know where the traps are placed.
- central CC, its unlurable with giants ( they must brake the wall )
- there is no X junctions, but it's some T junctions but they can't be deadly for your base)
- DE is well protected by teslas. If attacker attacking from south then Heroes pull troops
away from DE storage
Cons: - 2 maybe too exposed Elixir storages
- mass drag or baloonion can be deadly for you because air defenses are a bit too exposed.
You can change mortars with air defenses ( in higher legaues ).

I tried to made as more effective base as I can and till now the base works excelent for me.
I will not share any defense logs. Why? Because if you see potencial in this base you will try it.
And because every single player attacks different than others . Every base is beatable but you must
find the way how to beat it ;)

Chief check out first page for more details :) Thanks

Lucky finding for today :rolleyes:

http://shrani.si/f/43/R4/1xo01Cux/lucky-finding.png

Wow you are an insane farmer.

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Wow you are an insane farmer.

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LOL I'm trying to be :o

King 21 queen 20 here. I'm gonna max heroes then work on walls full time.

awesome evolution for two months! Those walls grew fast!! keep going

so basically like Ash's guide but we should do Clan Wars for loot bonus?.
could have just summarized that.

lol , you are not even good.
your base design sucks , and you take ages with your walls.
i did all lavas in 4 weeks , btw next time make your own guide.

Update 4/1/2015

http://shrani.si/f/2M/qO/trk7DZz/stats-412015.pngReached 1 million Heroic heist mission/some progress on Lavas :)
Archer queen upgrading on 14
Barbarian king upgrading on 17

I also added defense log for my base The Ultimator
Defense log untill now ( more coming in next thread update in 14 days (without TH snipes)).
http://shrani.si/f/1C/Cz/4TJ79nWI/de...-ultimator.png
Any comments are welcome :)

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King 21 queen 20 here. I'm gonna max heroes then work on walls full time.

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Congrats, great. But I suggest that (if u have time) upgrading or dump some gold and elixir in walls between builder gaps. It will be easier later, when your heroes will be maxed ;)

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awesome evolution for two months! Those walls grew fast!! keep going

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Thanks, I'm trying to develope base as fast as possible :) I made amazing progress in walls even I and my clan mates can't believe hehe :) GL

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so basically like Ash's guide but we should do Clan Wars for loot bonus?.
could have just summarized that.

Hmm I started journey before Ash ;) like 1 month earlier, but I paused it, my base was too weak for journey like this :) If you remember me, I was in his clan month ago.
And yes I build clan, we playing clan wars. I have amazing team mates which do clean up and I attack for loot at the end ( because I'm without heroes ). Everyone are happy with loot bonus, we are undefeated
(5 wins, clan since 24/12/2014). I'm pretty much the same player like Ash, but I play CW's. Thats all :)
Gl to you too ;)

lol , you are not even good.
your base design sucks , and you take ages with your walls.
i did all lavas in 4 weeks , btw next time make your own guide.

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I do dump the resources on walls. I just don't actively farm for those paticular resources.

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so basically like Ash's guide but we should do Clan Wars for loot bonus?.
could have just summarized that.

lol , you are not even good.
your base design sucks , and you take ages with your walls.
i did all lavas in 4 weeks , btw next time make your own guide.

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There's no need for your post and worthless insult only to back it up with an almost certain lie.

@OP good progress. I'm sure you will get your heroes to 30 in no time!

The DE is quite exposed in your base. An enemy AQ can easily take it by breaking through only 2 layers of walls.

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I do dump the resources on walls. I just don't actively farm for those paticular resources.

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:)Try to split farming lie me, it works for me. But you must have time for this :/ Anyway good luck in your journey

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There's no need for your post and worthless insult only to back it up with an almost certain lie.

@OP good progress. I'm sure you will get your heroes to 30 in no time!

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Hmm tnx for supporting me against ...khmm.. him :P
Gl and ty for nice words, they helps ( nice words from player like u are honor for me) :)

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The DE is quite exposed in your base. An enemy AQ can easily take it by breaking through only 2 layers of walls.

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Some of experted attackers with GiBArch stole me some DE. Yes it's true about AQ, everytime when they stole me DE, they stole it because of AQ. I suggest to put all 4 teslas against DE storage. For me, the village work perfect as I said. More battle logs incoming, I sitting on full DE now for 1 day( waiting on aq to finish), lots of attackers tried to get this juicy DE, but only two of them stole it. Witch barch L6and heroes it's pretty hard to get this DE. But i also recommend if someone will copy base that u have at least half legos. Success is not guaranted :)
And thnx for comment I appreciate it :) Sorry for bad eng.

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so basically like Ash's guide but we should do Clan Wars for loot bonus?.
could have just summarized that.

lol , you are not even good.
your base design sucks , and you take ages with your walls.
i did all lavas in 4 weeks , btw next time make your own guide.

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No comment :)

Some new defense log from my base The Ultimator added :)
http://shrani.si/f/1C/om/EZIX5p0/log-1112015.png
Some great defenses, but against LavaLoonion I had no chances :) At least he didn't take me all elix :rolleyes:

My clan proceeding with wars, we are still undefeated :) 8 wins in a row now. More in link below :)

Sunrise Legion war log, check us out :) (<--click on text)

♥♥♥♥er you are

You are a hàčkèr

Great job man. I am in a similar situation as you. I have been farming DE using super queen and making 10-12k DE an hour. I am definitely keeping tabs on this thread.

See you at 30!

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Great job man. I am in a similar situation as you. I have been farming DE using super queen and making 10-12k DE an hour. I am definitely keeping tabs on this thread.

See you at 30!

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Nice to see your twich acc :) of course good luck to you too :) see you soon hehe :o


EDIT: NEW guide on why to zapp DE storage and one more, my total new strategy which was developed by me and my clan in last 14 days: how to create your own successful war clan, how to be good leader and how to win every war :) Comming soon

Thread is completely updated!

New guides about zapping, how to win every clan war and more on first side!

Check out my journey to lvl 40 heroes and my base The Ultimator too!

http://shrani.si/f/G/y1/5Y17zGL/1/heroes-change.jpg

This whole guide is a ripoff of Ash's journey to level 40 heroes. http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...evel-40-Heroes

Ok , bigboss.

1. Your base sucks , you literally dont have any skill.
2. You stole everything from Ash his guide , even asked him for tips.

It's my opinion that this is a copy of Ash's thread. Not sure why you felt the need to copy him but imitation is a great compliment.

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This whole guide is a ripoff of Ash's journey to level 40 heroes. http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...evel-40-Heroes

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Well if u say so :) But didn't he copied Brandon's guide?

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Ok , bigboss.

1. Your base sucks , you literally dont have any skill.
2. You stole everything from Ash his guide , even asked him for tips.

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1.Well Mo07 thanks :)
2. I didn't use any tips from him in this guide. Take a look who started journey earlier, me or he?
Well I can't see any similarity inthere. My clan, my base, my datas etc... IDK where you see similarity? I just updated thread with new things ( CW's, and about zapping ). Why he send you to answer? Is he too scared? I'm not stupid ;)
aaaaaaaaaaaandd 3. his tips ARE SUCKS!

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Wow what a ripoff of ashes journey to lvl 40 heroes thread. Why did you do this? You even made really similar graphics. Kinda sad. Supercell moderators chime in on this...maybe lock the thread??

whats particularly deceptive is that you took an older thread you started and replaced all the content so it would look like this was started back in September. Come on dude....why??

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Well graphics. I found QUEEN AND KING picture on google and edit them myself. Ash didn't made picture him self. Somebody else made pic for him. Is there any problem if I made my own picture?
What is wrong with you guys I simply don't understand but ok :)

And ♥♥♥ do you know about my journey???? Ask Dady what was this thread before about! He change the name because I please to do that ( before was TH9 JOURNEY TO LVL 30 AQ AND BK ).

So if Ash gemming his heroes ( even if he said that he is not gemmer and he will never gem or boost his barracks ) then nobody else can't post pictures about his journey, to share this with others?

And I started journey on September. Because I was too rushed and busy I was not abled to kept both heroes under upgrade all the time. Now i'm stronger and i'm back, with constanly upgrading my heroes.

And there is a lot of different things beetwen me and Ash. Just ask for one no prob, i have millions of them:cool:


And you three guys are all from Altar of heroes so opinions are clear. Go hide yourself ;)

Hey 9bigboss, I apologize for some of the comments made here by some of my clan mates and followers of my thread. However, I see that you have made a lot of changes to your thread and I agree with many of the posts here that it is in fact very similar to the format of my thread. I understand that you've used my thread as a basis for your ideas, but this hurts the credibility and originality of my work.

I would appreciate it if you could change and choose a more original format, dissimilar to mine. Also, make sure to credit most of these ideas. I appreciate that you've taken the time to share many of your ideas, but would appreciate it even more if you've reformatted your thread distinctive to my thread. Thanks for understanding.

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2. I didn't use any tips from him in this guide. Take a look who started journey earlier, me or he?
Well I can't see any similarity inthere. My clan, my base, my datas etc... IDK where you see similarity? I just updated thread with new things ( CW's, and about zapping ). Why he send you to answer? Is he too scared? I'm not stupid ;)
aaaaaaaaaaaandd 3. his tips ARE SUCKS!

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Also, I hope these rude comments are not directed at me...

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Hey 9bigboss, I apologize for some of the comments made here by some of my clan mates and followers of my thread. However, I see that you have made a lot of changes to your thread and I agree with many of the posts here that it is in fact very similar to the format of my thread. I understand that you've used my thread as a basis for your ideas, but this hurts the credibility and originality of my work.

I would appreciate it if you could change and choose a more original format, dissimilar to mine. Also, make sure to credit most of these ideas. I appreciate that you've taken the time to share many of your ideas, but would appreciate it even more if you've reformatted your thread distinctive to my thread. Thanks for understanding.



Also, I hope these rude comments are not directed at me...

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Well that's the answer i was waiting for :) U have some bad children in your clan as i see.
The format : table of contents. IDK what can I make different here? I'll try to change it if you are not ok with this, no problem ;)
All I want is no terrorizing here, no bad words and so on. Thats all. Sorry if this look like your thread. I found only these two picture which was nice about AQ and BK ( but I will change it as soon as possible (in few days)).
And no I didn't use your thread at all ;) Mostly i wass focus on Brandon's thread and made completely different thread like he did, i wasn't looking to your thread at this point.
I can sent you all of link on which i found some informations, your thread is not between these links for sure.
So all what i'm gonna change is first picture (it's my pic but whatever). Rest of thread will stay the same :)
And most of ideas i think that are credit to me aren't they? I tested different tactics about army composition, I tested lightings, I build my clan and tested my ideas on my own. I made my own base design, tested it. There is nothing yours ;) And i pasted my GG,HH and EE for sure i didn't copy this from you. Think about it :cool:

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Well that's the answer i was waiting for :) U have some bad children in your clan as i see.
The format : table of contents. IDK what can I make different here? I'll try to change it if you are not ok with this, no problem ;)
All I want is no terrorizing here, no bad words and so on. Thats all. Sorry if this look like your thread. I found only these two picture which was nice about AQ and BK ( but I will change it as soon as possible (in few days)).
And no I didn't use your thread at all ;) Mostly i wass focus on Brandon's thread and made completely different thread like he did, i wasn't looking to your thread at this point.
I can sent you all of link on which i found some informations, your thread is not between these links for sure.
So all what i'm gonna change is first picture (it's my pic but whatever). Rest of thread will stay the same :)
And most of ideas i think that are credit to me aren't they? I tested different tactics about army composition, I tested lightings, I build my clan and tested my ideas on my own. I made my own base design, tested it. There is nothing yours ;) And i pasted my GG,HH and EE for sure i didn't copy this from you. Think about it :cool:

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Childish people? I find it funny how your calling us childish, but in the way you responded was also childish. You came to Ash's clan before and asked for advice on how to farm de. You asked him for a lot of advice over the past few months. the funny thing is, you just said ash's tips are stupid, but hes one of the best farmers in the game, and you keep coming to him for advice as well. also there is no such thing as being to rushed. if you were a good farmer you would realize that all you need is barch/bam and you will be successful. Everything about your thread looks exactly like ash's.

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Well that's the answer i was waiting for :) U have some bad children in your clan as i see.
The format : table of contents. IDK what can I make different here? I'll try to change it if you are not ok with this, no problem ;)
All I want is no terrorizing here, no bad words and so on. Thats all. Sorry if this look like your thread. I found only these two picture which was nice about AQ and BK ( but I will change it as soon as possible (in few days)).
And no I didn't use your thread at all ;) Mostly i wass focus on Brandon's thread and made completely different thread like he did, i wasn't looking to your thread at this point.
I can sent you all of link on which i found some informations, your thread is not between these links for sure.
So all what i'm gonna change is first picture (it's my pic but whatever). Rest of thread will stay the same :)
And most of ideas i think that are credit to me aren't they? I tested different tactics about army composition, I tested lightings, I build my clan and tested my ideas on my own. I made my own base design, tested it. There is nothing yours ;) And i pasted my GG,HH and EE for sure i didn't copy this from you. Think about it :cool:

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I can't stop these "bad children" from expressing there opinions in regards to your thread. I agree with many of what they've stated. They're loyal clan members and are just expressing their opinions. You'll have to get used to harsh criticism.

You have asked me countless times for assistance for your thread, even messaged me a few days ago asking me how you can change your thread's title so it can be similar to mine. You had joined my clan a few weeks ago and I've assisted you with many farming tips and information. You had asked me to support your thread on my thread, and I did, I added a link to your thread in mine. Then a few weeks ago I find that you've added the same format, and my same farming method on your guide, so I removed your thread's link. Now I find that you've completely re-designed your thread to look similar to mine. I have been following your thread for months and have witnessed the evolution of it. The similarities are strong and this is grounds for plagiarism.

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Childish people? I find it funny how your calling us childish, but in the way you responded was also childish. You came to Ash's clan before and asked for advice on how to farm de. You asked him for a lot of advice over the past few months. the funny thing is, you just said ash's tips are stupid, but hes one of the best farmers in the game, and you keep coming to him for advice as well. also there is no such thing as being to rushed. if you were a good farmer you would realize that all you need is barch/bam and you will be successful. Everything about your thread looks exactly like ash's.

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Hahahhaha u make me cry right now. U think that is hard to be hard farmer? All you need is time, nothing else. Also ash said time is money ;) And i asked him about things yes. And if you know this i left his skype group myself, beause i wanted to make something myself not copying this from others ;) There are a lot of things there that he said he will not to do, but he doing this things right now ;) So please open new thread if you still want to play this funny games with me :) I have a lot to say about whole thing. Some real stuffs atm on this forum.
And do you know who is really good farmer? Only one person who taught me more than anybody else! For name u got PM ;)

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I can't stop these "bad children" from expressing there opinions in regards to your thread. I agree with many of what they've stated. They're loyal clan members and are just expressing their opinions. You'll have to get used to harsh criticism.

You have asked me countless times for assistance for your thread, even messaged me a few days ago asking me how you can change your thread's title so it can be similar to mine. You had joined my clan a few weeks ago and I've assisted you with many farming tips and information. You had asked me to support your thread on my thread, and I did, I added a link to your thread in mine. Then a few weeks ago I find that you've added the same format, and my same farming method on your guide, so I removed your thread's link. Now I find that you've completely re-designed your thread to look similar to mine. I have been following your thread for months and have witnessed the evolution of it. The similarities are strong and this is grounds for plagiarism.

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As i expresing my opinion about you in my comments ;) And how the f*** u want that i set the name of thread? Journey to lvl 80 heroes or what? Waste of time it really is :) Sorry I know what u are doing. You want to be the best on forum and in game. As soon as I rebuilded this thread, your team mates come here and started talking bull♥♥♥♥ things to beat me down ;) And a little bit after that somebody just accidently make thread about his journey and put your link into. TO SHOW THAT U ARE THE BEST ;)and of course your team mates started to bumping your thread that your thread will be on top of forum news ;) I'm not stupind so play this games in your thread, now leave this one. hope you understand ;) u have skype if you want more talking...
And yes you removed my thread link a loing time ago, u are laying again ;) IDC thread staying the same

Updated!

http://shrani.si/f/L/Am/4MPZfZ8E/slika-za-forum.png

Heroes : - King upgrading on 19
- Queen upgrading on 16

I made some progress with walls, I think that I will finish them in 40 days and then I will move on TH10 :) (I will have max base then too).


Any comments welcome

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Ok , bigboss.

1. Your base sucks , you literally dont have any skill.
2. You stole everything from Ash his guide , even asked him for tips.

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Respect to Ash for what he's done and all, but stop treating him like Jesus, I don't think there is one particularly unique idea in his entire thread, its all been done before. You can learn all about farming and base development from Brandon, Unity sharp and Sharonsym already.
What it amounts to is a diary where people can go on and ask for tips and whatever, same as this thread. Just because the OP is less successful it doesn't give you the right to come here and start criticising him like that.Keep the drama in PMs and towards moderators if you want, it doesn't belong in a thread like this.

DE zapping is a legit way to farm DE? No it's not. It's a waste of elixir. With the time it takes to cook 4 or 5 lightning spells, you can get twice the amount of DE easily, if you use an actual army and actually farm it. Take it from someone who has max heroes, a max base and over 10mil of DE looted so far. Stop promoting zapping, it's bad for the economy.

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DE zapping is a legit way to farm DE? No it's not. It's a waste of elixir. With the time it takes to cook 4 or 5 lightning spells, you can get twice the amount of DE easily, if you use an actual army and actually farm it. Take it from someone who has max heroes, a max base and over 10mil of DE looted so far. Stop promoting zapping, it's bad for the economy.

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Yes bro zapping is bad way to farm DE.. Instead of 4 lightning spell it's better wrap up the raid with 2 heal spell on Giants looting full caped amount rather than part of it ... Noobs can't understand so they called Noobs.. Anyways zappers end up badly as I always do REVENGE those cowards..

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Respect to Ash for what he's done and all, but stop treating him like Jesus, I don't think there is one particularly unique idea in his entire thread, its all been done before. You can learn all about farming and base development from Brandon, Unity sharp and Sharonsym already.
What it amounts to is a diary where people can go on and ask for tips and whatever, same as this thread. Just because the OP is less successful it doesn't give you the right to come here and start criticising him like that.Keep the drama in PMs and towards moderators if you want, it doesn't belong in a thread like this.

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Well thanks god, here is a person who think the same like me :) gl

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DE zapping is a legit way to farm DE? No it's not. It's a waste of elixir. With the time it takes to cook 4 or 5 lightning spells, you can get twice the amount of DE easily, if you use an actual army and actually farm it. Take it from someone who has max heroes, a max base and over 10mil of DE looted so far. Stop promoting zapping, it's bad for the economy.

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Well I talking about zapping when u are not farming DE. I farm DE 2 days per week, 5 days of normal farming for walls. This zapps help me to still farm 15k DE per day even if I don't farm DE with my army. It's like bonus DE (that's why i zapping i hope that you understand it) :) But there is a lot of different opinions, everybody has different opinions about waste of elixir or not :) For me is good ;) And i promoting it, it's your decision if you will use it or not :) gl

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Yes bro zapping is bad way to farm DE.. Instead of 4 lightning spell it's better wrap up the raid with 2 heal spell on Giants looting full caped amount rather than part of it ... Noobs can't understand so they called Noobs.. Anyways zappers end up badly as I always do REVENGE those cowards..

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As I said. Zapping is good if you are using BAM or BArch army. GiBArch don't need any lightings (maybe 1 for killing CC troops). And exactly the same thing as i said to Mike.
Hehe revenge :) I know this thing well, especially when I watching revenge on me :) But who cares at least I see if my base is good or not :) gl

Hi,

nice post. Well documented.

As for upgrading heroes at great speed, here is my input and experience:

from now to July, there is roughly 24 weeks. So if your queen is only 16, this means that you will need to upgrade her back to back for the next 24 weeks (7 days upgrade time capped) :) And at the same time upgrade your king 2/3 of the times also.

It's feasible to gather around 100k DE for a week to upgrade your queen back-to-back. But as to gather 180k to upgrade both your king and you queen in a week ... that's a bit hard.

As a maxed TH9, you might be able to do well in war with one hero upgrading. How well do you do with both upgrading?

Let me just say that as a TH10, this is a lot harder.

We have 3 TH10 in our clan and if two of them are upgrading a hero during the same war, we lose 2-4 stars easily. In some case that is the difference between a win and a lost.

At some point you will have to chose between winning wars and upgrading your heroes. Mine are only 19-20 because I upgrade only each couple of weeks so I can have them for wars (twice a week).

No considering also troop donation during war. Each war it cost me around 20k DE (hogs, witches, golem). So add that 40k to you 180k needed to upgrade your heroes every week.

Anyway, you will see when you get to TH10. Upgrading golem to 5, lava hound to 2, minions to 6. You will see that your DE will go faster than it will come

Good luck and great work on your walls. I still have level 7 walls by the way :p

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Hi,

nice post. Well documented.

As for upgrading heroes at great speed, here is my input and experience:

from now to July, there is roughly 24 weeks. So if your queen is only 16, this means that you will need to upgrade her back to back for the next 24 weeks (7 days upgrade time capped) :) And at the same time upgrade your king 2/3 of the times also.

It's feasible to gather around 100k DE for a week to upgrade your queen back-to-back. But as to gather 180k to upgrade both your king and you queen in a week ... that's a bit hard.

As a maxed TH9, you might be able to do well in war with one hero upgrading. How well do you do with both upgrading?

Let me just say that as a TH10, this is a lot harder.

We have 3 TH10 in our clan and if two of them are upgrading a hero during the same war, we lose 2-4 stars easily. In some case that is the difference between a win and a lost.

At some point you will have to chose between winning wars and upgrading your heroes. Mine are only 19-20 because I upgrade only each couple of weeks so I can have them for wars (twice a week).

No considering also troop donation during war. Each war it cost me around 20k DE (hogs, witches, golem). So add that 40k to you 180k needed to upgrade your heroes every week.

Anyway, you will see when you get to TH10. Upgrading golem to 5, lava hound to 2, minions to 6. You will see that your DE will go faster than it will come

Good luck and great work on your walls. I still have level 7 walls by the way :p

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Hmm interesting. I was thinking about this yesterday, about heroes in war. I failed massive attack on 48 % without heroes, no stars. Of course heroes are big thing in game, with them you are 50% stronger especially if they are high level.
We are playing wars 10vs10. My friend in clan is very solid, he help me with donating DE troops. I donate baloons at most, witches in war CC's. So I think that I spend around 10k DE per war.

Most of all i considering about staying on th9 and max my heroes (to 30). And then as th10 first finish queen to 40 and once she will be max i will upgrade king to 40. This I think is the best method + I will max my troops in lab in that time. Especially i don't think that I can farm 170K+ DE for last few leves in only 3 days and a half for keeping heroes under upgrade non stop. I mean there are other resources and priorities too, not just heroes.

In wars i attacking with LavaLoonion. Lavas going to 2 right now, then i will put golem right to lvl4.

And of course against infernos i don't have any chances without heroes to make 3 stars, especially in 10vs10 CW's . Every star is very important.

U put me in dillema now haha. And tnx for advice.

But if i upgrade th earlier, then i got infernos, put them right to lvl 3. Then I can focus on DE only. Its a lot of options here what to do. I don't want to sit on full storages all the time as th9, thats not for me :)
But as you said I must choose. Wars or heroes:confused:
I will decide soon i still have time, but right now i think that i will choose heroes. I can war with lvl 40 heroes :D

Tnx for walls and don't worry about yours :)

Youtube channel come out tommorrow!!! I will upload first serie named: Our introduction and speed build The Ultimator base ;)
Be sure to check out :)

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Youtube channel come out tommorrow!!! I will upload first serie named: Our introduction and speed build The Ultimator base ;)
Be sure to check out :)

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good luck

10 char

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good luck

10 char

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The same I wish to you :)

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I can't stop these "bad children" from expressing there opinions in regards to your thread. I agree with many of what they've stated. They're loyal clan members and are just expressing their opinions. You'll have to get used to harsh criticism.

You have asked me countless times for assistance for your thread, even messaged me a few days ago asking me how you can change your thread's title so it can be similar to mine. You had joined my clan a few weeks ago and I've assisted you with many farming tips and information. You had asked me to support your thread on my thread, and I did, I added a link to your thread in mine. Then a few weeks ago I find that you've added the same format, and my same farming method on your guide, so I removed your thread's link. Now I find that you've completely re-designed your thread to look similar to mine. I have been following your thread for months and have witnessed the evolution of it. The similarities are strong and this is grounds for plagiarism.

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To both the OP and Ash, I would really watch what you think is an original idea. For example, the "multi-dimensional attack" in Ash's thread is not a unique idea - in fact, Daddy has a youtube video from May 2014 that describes this exact same process and why it works (not saying he is the originator, but it is evidence of other people describing the effect of using air and ground troops, melee and ranged, to take down wizard towers). I haven't seen him or any other person really credited in anyone's thread, and perhaps you figured it out for yourself as well, but that doesn't necessarily make the idea original or not. Fact is, most of these farming techniques have likely all been done and expressed in threads long since buried, or youtube videos, so talking about plagiarism, originality, etc. is just going to be a no-go when it comes to these types of troop comps.

I think we can all take a key note from Hulk's HoloWiWi thread and youtube videos. Everyone talks about hulk as the originator of HoLoWiWi, but he has been humble enough to state that he did not invent it, that people have been doing it, and he just wanted to take the time and document the strategy in his famous war attacks thread. I appreciate the efforts that both of you have done to document your journey on de farming, but let's just leave it at that and not start thinking these threads are journalistic publications of completely novel methods. If anything, they are summary articles of many other people's work over the years with a slight personal "diary"-esque spin.

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To both the OP and Ash, I would really watch what you think is an original idea. For example, the "multi-dimensional attack" in Ash's thread is not a unique idea - in fact, Daddy has a youtube video from May 2014 that describes this exact same process and why it works (not saying he is the originator, but it is evidence of other people describing the effect of using air and ground troops, melee and ranged, to take down wizard towers). I haven't seen him or any other person really credited in anyone's thread, and perhaps you figured it out for yourself as well, but that doesn't necessarily make the idea original or not. Fact is, most of these farming techniques have likely all been done and expressed in threads long since buried, or youtube videos, so talking about plagiarism, originality, etc. is just going to be a no-go when it comes to these types of troop comps.

I think we can all take a key note from Hulk's HoloWiWi thread and youtube videos. Everyone talks about hulk as the originator of HoLoWiWi, but he has been humble enough to state that he did not invent it, that people have been doing it, and he just wanted to take the time and document the strategy in his famous war attacks thread. I appreciate the efforts that both of you have done to document your journey on de farming, but let's just leave it at that and not start thinking these threads are journalistic publications of completely novel methods. If anything, they are summary articles of many other people's work over the years with a slight personal "diary"-esque spin.

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Of course there was players before who has been on journey like this. Of course there is a lot of players which trying or already tried different attacking strategies by mixing different army compositions.
But as you said they didn't put this on forum, they kept it for themselves. I would say that ( for example ) me,Ash, Hulk want to share our knowledge with other players around the world.

Hulk is focus on HoLoWiWi for example, but behind this he hiding his own journey ;)

Ash has tried and he done well his guides for DE farming, but he become popular and of course he making his thread better and better.

Here is not all about plagiarism. We all know that let's say in this thread is no plagiarism, it's only one picture which reminds peoples on Ash's journey that's all :) All other points of thread are mine ideas :)

Episode 1 is now live! Check out our introduction ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nooZRaU5jRY

Nothing special, watch in 1080 pixels resolution ;)
Enjoy

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To both the OP and Ash, I would really watch what you think is an original idea. For example, the "multi-dimensional attack" in Ash's thread is not a unique idea - in fact, Daddy has a youtube video from May 2014 that describes this exact same process and why it works (not saying he is the originator, but it is evidence of other people describing the effect of using air and ground troops, melee and ranged, to take down wizard towers). I haven't seen him or any other person really credited in anyone's thread, and perhaps you figured it out for yourself as well, but that doesn't necessarily make the idea original or not. Fact is, most of these farming techniques have likely all been done and expressed in threads long since buried, or youtube videos, so talking about plagiarism, originality, etc. is just going to be a no-go when it comes to these types of troop comps.

I think we can all take a key note from Hulk's HoloWiWi thread and youtube videos. Everyone talks about hulk as the originator of HoLoWiWi, but he has been humble enough to state that he did not invent it, that people have been doing it, and he just wanted to take the time and document the strategy in his famous war attacks thread. I appreciate the efforts that both of you have done to document your journey on de farming, but let's just leave it at that and not start thinking these threads are journalistic publications of completely novel methods. If anything, they are summary articles of many other people's work over the years with a slight personal "diary"-esque spin.

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I wasn't referring to any of my farming strategies or methods. I was referring to the format of the thread (the way he presents his information), which is awfully similar to my thread. And of course I understand that the OP used my thread as a basis for writing and presenting his information in a similar fashion, but no hint of credit was given.

What's worse is that he had created this thread at an earlier date than mine. And the original format of this thread was completely different and lacked this amount of information. He edited and reformatted it recently using my thread as a basis for improving the aesthetics of his post. And that hurts the credibility of my thread not only because there was no credit given to me, but also because this thread was created at an earlier date (but edited), which makes me look like I took the ideas of creating my thread and the way I present things from this thread. So you can see where I'm coming from with this.

That's why I tried to maturely and kindly ask the OP to use a different, more original format for presenting his information. So to not make my thread look like a "copy cat" version of his thread, vice versa. But instead I get insulted perhaps due to a misunderstanding?

I mentioned many times that I was inspired by Brandon's awe-inspiring journey and thread and have used my thread as a basis for that. I have used a different format of presenting most of my information to make my thread look more original: banner, table of contents, youtube video guides, efficient army compositions and methods, charts, and I can go on and on...

So I'm simply requested that you give credit or at least change that banner or else people are just going to think that your thread is a "rip off" version of mine (or vice versa). Thank you.

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I wasn't referring to any of my farming strategies or methods. I was referring to the format of the thread (the way he presents his information), which is awfully similar to my thread. And of course I understand that the OP used my thread as a basis for writing and presenting his information in a similar fashion, but no hint of credit was given.

What's worse is that he had created this thread at an earlier date than mine. And the original format of this thread was completely different and lacked this amount of information. He edited and reformatted it recently using my thread as a basis for improving the aesthetics of his post. And that hurts the credibility of my thread not only because there was no credit given to me, but also because this thread was created at an earlier date (but edited), which makes me look like I took the ideas of creating my thread and the way I present things from this thread. So you can see where I'm coming from with this.

That's why I tried to maturely and kindly ask the OP to use a different, more original format for presenting his information. So to not make my thread look like a "copy cat" version of his thread, vice versa. But instead I get insulted perhaps due to a misunderstanding?

I mentioned many times that I was inspired by Brandon's awe-inspiring journey and thread and have used my thread as a basis for that. I have used a different format of presenting most of my information to make my thread look more original: banner, table of contents, youtube video guides, efficient army compositions and methods, charts, and I can go on and on...

So I'm simply requested that you give credit or at least change that banner or else people are just going to think that your thread is a "rip off" version of mine (or vice versa). Thank you.

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Seriously, you are knocking the OP for format of your thread and think this hurts the credibility of your thread? I doubt 99% of the people are going to your thread because of its format vs its content. Just as you said to the OP earlier about dealing with harsh criticism, you need to stop making mountains out of mole hills about these lesser aspects of threads. I personally don't see or think any aspect about the format of any of these threads is worthy of original, artistic work (Brandon's, the OPs, or yours), but rather just what most threads do when concisely presenting an attacking strategy. What do we have: a TOC, some logs, some pictures on attacking strategies and army compositions used, a graphical header, etc.

Just focus on bringing your personal thoughts and content in each of your threads and let that weight carry the thread. :D I personally am glad all the threads, including Brandon's, are so similar in format. It allows me as a forum user to easily compare/contrast all the methods presented, see commonalities that enhance the validity of the statements being made, and see the differences and why those differences might be present. This enhances the value of ALL threads for me, and though I can't speak for the entire forum, I hope it would for the majority of forum users as well.

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It allows me as a forum user to easily compare/contrast all the methods presented, see commonalities that enhance the validity of the statements being made, and see the differences and why those differences might be present. This enhances the value of ALL threads for me, and though I can't speak for the entire forum, I hope it would for the majority of forum users as well.

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How can you compare and contrast all methods, and see commonalities, when one user deletes his thread, and changes it to almost mirror another persons? How would you feel if you worked hard for months, and then some random guy came and copied your thread? But...everyone now thinks he was the original poster of the thread because his thread was started at an earlier time..and your comments about the work of any of these people being the same thing as has been previously posted...Thats all great, but really? Even if it is a journal of their experiences, they still have rights.

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Seriously, you are knocking the OP for format of your thread and think this hurts the credibility of your thread? I doubt 99% of the people are going to your thread because of its format vs its content. Just as you said to the OP earlier about dealing with harsh criticism, you need to stop making mountains out of mole hills about these lesser aspects of threads. I personally don't see or think any aspect about the format of any of these threads is worthy of original, artistic work (Brandon's, the OPs, or yours), but rather just what most threads do when concisely presenting an attacking strategy. What do we have: a TOC, some logs, some pictures on attacking strategies and army compositions used, a graphical header, etc.

Just focus on bringing your personal thoughts and content in each of your threads and let that weight carry the thread. :D I personally am glad all the threads, including Brandon's, are so similar in format. It allows me as a forum user to easily compare/contrast all the methods presented, see commonalities that enhance the validity of the statements being made, and see the differences and why those differences might be present. This enhances the value of ALL threads for me, and though I can't speak for the entire forum, I hope it would for the majority of forum users as well.

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Thanks for your opinion, but I'm not asking anyone to move a mountain. I think again I'm being misunderstood here. What I'm trying to do is improve this thread, and at the same time conserve the original aspects of my thread. For example, if someone is looking for another Dark Elixir farming guide from someone else's perspective, then that person may come across this thread. Just by the first sight of a similar banner with a similar format, that person may think that this guide is just another version or "copy" of my thread. Simply using a banner dissimilar to mine, will gain the interests of more people. And I constantly support these types of threads and guides, as it not only helps a lot of people but myself as well. And I know how much work one put to share his knowledge with the ultimate goal of helping and teaching the Clash of Clans community. My request was only for the betterment of this thread and my thread.

That's my opinion and formal request. Have a nice day. ;)

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How can you compare and contrast all methods, and see commonalities, when one user deletes his thread, and changes it to almost mirror another persons? How would you feel if you worked hard for months, and then some random guy came and copied your thread? But...everyone now thinks he was the original poster of the thread because his thread was started at an earlier time..and your comments about the work of any of these people being the same thing as has been previously posted...Thats all great, but really? Even if it is a journal of their experiences, they still have rights.

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Thanks for understanding the situation and problem I'm trying to resolve!

This is awesome.

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Originally Posted by Eternal625

Thanks for your opinion, but I'm not asking anyone to move a mountain. I think again I'm being misunderstood here. What I'm trying to do is improve this thread, and at the same time conserve the original aspects of my thread. For example, if someone is looking for another Dark Elixir farming guide from someone else's perspective, then that person may come across this thread. Just by the first sight of a similar banner with a similar format, that person may think that this guide is just another version or "copy" of my thread. Simply using a banner dissimilar to mine, will gain the interests of more people. And I constantly support these types of threads and guides, as it not only helps a lot of people but myself as well. And I know how much work one put to share his knowledge with the ultimate goal of helping and teaching the Clash of Clans community. My request was only for the betterment of this thread and my thread.

That's my opinion and formal request. Have a nice day. ;)



Thanks for understanding the situation and problem I'm trying to resolve!

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Ash u know that this thread before i updated it was piece of s**t. I updated it because of myself. I didnt copied yours guides or anything about you. I idntd hurt your feelings or did i ? If this is so hard to you to understand that i used my own testings i will try to find solution about this.
But for sure i will not change the format of thread. If i will do something i will create new thread with new format with different name so you will sleep again normaly ;) pm me if u agree with this i will response asap :)

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Originally Posted by Eternal625

I can't stop these "bad children" from expressing there opinions in regards to your thread. I agree with many of what they've stated. They're loyal clan members and are just expressing their opinions. You'll have to get used to harsh criticism.

You have asked me countless times for assistance for your thread, even messaged me a few days ago asking me how you can change your thread's title so it can be similar to mine. You had joined my clan a few weeks ago and I've assisted you with many farming tips and information. You had asked me to support your thread on my thread, and I did, I added a link to your thread in mine. Then a few weeks ago I find that you've added the same format, and my same farming method on your guide, so I removed your thread's link. Now I find that you've completely re-designed your thread to look similar to mine. I have been following your thread for months and have witnessed the evolution of it. The similarities are strong and this is grounds for plagiarism.

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Lol, this guy... I joined his clan and it was THE worst community i experienced in COC sofar. They insulted me, were rude and ♥♥♥♥y for no reason - as they actually have no reason to be so. They arent specific in any way. Then i got kicked by the leader who then told me something about me not being "mature and speaking poor english". Without even talking to me once.:rolleyes: He explained that i "did not met the requirements", heheeee :rolleyes::D So you can see, what kind of people there are in his clan and what kind of person he is.

Dont let get yourself down! As mentioned above, the Ash guy ripped off his strategies and base from other people as well - what else could have he done? Keep doing what you are doing and do it with pride!

The point is - his clan is full of unfriendly people and the leader of the clan is a stubborn and blind guy, who only sees what he wants to see. He pretends to be rational, mature and objective - yet facts are as mentioned above. Hiding behind his pretentious "politeness", he and his clanmates have all the "qualities" of unmature kids :rolleyes:

Have a nice day ;)

Thread is going to be deleted soon since i can't see any good point in it. Im more fouced on maxing my base than heroes maxing so soon coming my completely new thread, with new things (my journey to perfect

I hope that all bad things from past will be forgotten :)