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eBay is the wrong place to do that lolQuote:
Originally Posted by sminil
Just got my th 10 today, had max gold and elixir plus the cc full. Took me 4 hours to grind out 1 million in gold and elixir. I easily spent over 500k in gold looking for that. The loot is pathetic right now.
I've long thought that there are criteria that determine the matches you get over and above which random server you happen to be on. There have been theories recently aired in this thread that gems play a role..who knows, makes sense i guess. Then, this happened...
I have been the leader in clan for a long while. Loot has been an issue for me since the update late last year. It has been agonisingly bad since the elix for walls update. There have been no good days and bad, it has been all bad.
Long story short, i left my clan and spent a few days clanless. The loot was great! I'm talking 200k raids every time i searched. And only a few skips! Now i know what all the th10s here are talking about when they say they have no problem with loot.
Then i went back to my clan and had leader handed back. Guess what! Straight away, crappy sub 50k offers across the board. The guy who took leader when i was away, said he had crappy loot the whole time. He hands it back, and gets a 300k raid 5 skips in.
Coincidence? Anyone else tried this?
As big an issue as the loot is, the bigger one for me is that there is no level playing field across the board for players. Whatever the criteria is, some get good loot, some get bad. Even if what i described above is a coincidence (it was so blatant i dont think it is coincidental, though i can find no rational explanation for why that should be so), the reality is some players have great loot consistently, the rest of us do not. Unfair advantages are not conducive to a good gaming experience or reputation.
Any place is wrong for selling and buying accounts it's against terms and conditions of supercell.
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Originally Posted by Jorgy4459
In the gaming world, most people do not care about the TOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by saurabhkumar00
I think it is probably a coincidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kez
My gf made the same observation a few weeks ago. Not proof I know. But an interesting coincidence none the less.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueBoss
Huh interesting, maybe worth testing out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddiesalita
Why does it feel like my ability to farm resources is being throttled or chocked off? Untill recently it was not a problem to find people worth farming, yes I had to search but I always found a target that made my effort worth while. Bur as I near maxing out my Town Hall 9 it has become impossible to find a target. My queue costs me with spells close to 200k I spend easily 100k gold searching and I'm unable to find a target worth hitting, it's become impossible to finish my upgrades and I can't help but feel like I'm being forced to spend gems if I want to progress further. I have no problem spending gems, I believe in supporting a game that I enjoy playing, but I refuse to be manipulated of forced in to something. Has anyone else had an issue with finding targets worth hitting? Belgarathcoc@aol.com e mail me your thoughts and opinions. Belgarath The Sand Lot
today has been extremely bad
200k spent in searching yet no loot found
As a co I can say loot was just as bad as you described.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eddiesalita
Any changes coming for the loot?
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Originally Posted by Attitude
Aside from Golden 'half hour' (:)) nothing announced
I doubt it. Supercell have thrown us a small bare bone to chew on with the league bonus increases I doubt they will now do anything about the loot problem at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Attitude
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Originally Posted by Kez
Your brain playing tricks mate...
almost like the story where you find more loot when you boost your racks. :p
Not my brain playing tricks, i know the difference between nexting 10 times and getting a great raid, vs nexting 100 times and seeing nothing. I agree, it seems unlikely that there can be any explanation but coincidence, but it also seems crazy that a business would fail to address an issue when faced with such backlash. It seems anything is possible ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
Maintenance, but no golden hour? Was that patched, or was maintenance just too short?
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Originally Posted by Warble
Very dissappointing
iirc:
before you lost your shield after maintenance. I just noticed that I still had my shield.
Therefor; no (big) golden hour. Only the people who lost there shield are there, so the change isn't that big.
Loot is bad, Supercell are more interested in cash than their customers.
Great community here, shame about the grindfest no fun game.
I just deleted the game btw after 2 years of play.
Fitting that saying goodbye is on page 722 of people complaining about loot with not much done about it by SC.
Good luck those those that remain, I hope the greedy cash cow company start listening in the future.
I boosted 4 barracks and got about 15 legos. Mostly full or half full collectors. Wish you all got that till now there is some but my boost is over wish to see more of these full collectors and mines:cool:
No you don't lose your shield after maintenance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Attitude
Active players are however removed from the system, which pushes the inactives forward to fill up the queue. (less chance of staring at clouds)
Lack of a golden hour this time is likely due to the fact that nothing in game has changed therefore not requiring a full re-cycling of the server farm thus not all players were kicked.
(Only things different is 1 gem boost has stopped - which is a config file in the client on your phone & the app store says there is an update today but despite it saying halloween is over we very much still have the theme on our devices.)
EDIT: App Store now tells me there is an update to clash and Halloween is gone. :)
Taking loot from dead th8's is common for th9's and not a result of any perceived 'golden hour'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saleh47
Congrats though! ;)
I'm also TH9.. but there isnt any collector raid today..for me..:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal;
Maybe my sarcasm didn't show properly to our friend back there :PQuote:
Originally Posted by 331410
its likely he is sitting very low in G3 perhaps S1.
trophy range helps
Had 2 hrs free this AM... decided to boost 2 racks...
What a waste of time
Another day started with insane nexting. They too busy counting money they made. Whatever we say is not going to help. Every new player will be continue buyin gems. Couse its so easy to raid 100-200k loots early in the game even TH3-5 which they cant use all that loot. What they do they buy gems for another builder. than again people buy more gems to boost things and more. Thats what supercell want anyway. We wont get what we want as a th10 player.
Loot is rubbish. Haven't boosted in weeks and I enjoyed dropping my 50 gems a day to boost.
Pretty sure I'm not alone on this.
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Originally Posted by Biz
Biz, what trophy range are you in now?
TH10, loot at 2700 was the worst I have ever seen last night. I kept seeing offering of less than 20K of each resource. How is that possible? That many people only have 200k in their storages?
2268 right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
Slowly sliding down.
Im between 2600-2700 and seeing a fair amount of gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete82
elixir on the other hand is terrible and im skipping winnable bases cause i just cant pay for the troops out of it. (not even with the league bonus of 100k each)
Not sure down is the right way to go :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Biz
I'm around 2700 right now, loot is horrible, I don't know whether to go up or down, or perhaps just hang myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
As a heavy donator for my clan (63k so far), I was excited to finally max my TH9 so I could upgrade and get the TH10 troops for my clan. I even have a $100 credit ready to buy gems to accelerate troop research. However, the rate for acquiring elixir is so slow at TH10, there's no point in speeding the research along. So no point in buying gems. I have no intention of spending gems on elixir. I even pushed myself up in trophy level to get the better bonus, but that just requires more elixir to build my army so it pretty much washes out. So the sooner Supercell fixes this economy issue they created, the sooner they can get my money. If they wait too long I'll no longer need to accelerate troop research.
I'm sure my $100 is a drop in the bucket compared to the huge amounts they take in as a result of this change, but if enough people stop buying gems until they fix it, they might actually do it.
I had $100 set aside to buy gems when I hit TH9 but the loot was so bad I spent it elsewhere. Your $100 and my $100 may not matter but if there are enough of us...Quote:
Originally Posted by RivetPunk
No loot no loot
At this point, even if they did show hints of them trying to fix it I wouldn't give them a dime. This company has lost my trust. I have no idea if they will make some boneheaded move after a step in the right direction, and that's what's done it for me. Lost the clanmates I've played with, lost my ability to farm and progress, and I'm sure SC has to know by now that anything they do try and improve for TH9/10s is too little, but mainly too late to recoup any gem purchasing from those players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefthawk
They have their new income stream with the new generation of players, and that's fine, and it will last for a while, and then for their own sakes hopefully they'll have developed a new game to repeat the cycle over again. The sad part of all this is that there seemed to be so many tangible adjustments to how the loot system worked so that it could sustain farming (and long-term playability) at high levels. It was a conscious decision for SC not to explore those options.
I really wish Clash did something like Boom Beach's Dr Terror missions. Twice a week there are 20 stages of bases that you fight through that get harder and hard while the loot increases per level. Would give players a chance to finally find some loot with a challenge of beating a hard base and not a challenge of how long they can tolerate hitting next.
dont bother coming up, its much worst, i mean i have never seen 100's of 2k & 5k kindoff elixir bases in M1. i have stopped searching.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudGigaTitan
It was terrible above 2600 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
I feel like my loot GPS is giving me the finger :p
Loot is worse than ever ,surely you should be trying to fix this not make it worse ,getting toooo boring now ,game used to be fun ,now dont know what you going to come on to logged on tonight after 40 mins of nextin gave up ,another night not worth playing your game.......pleasssssse fix this we cant all be wrong
You've added loot storage & collect ability to the Clan Castle, why not give the Clan Castle the additional feature of generating all three loots that have to be collected on a regular basis to make room for the war loot.
If you're really concerned about the state of the economy, this really would be an easy fix. You could do this or simply make the existing mines and pumps more effective with higher rate.
The economy is real bad from my vantage point and has been so for several months.
Heres to waiting and hoping you guys take action.
Piratemonk
Creation Elite
Last night I watched my starting and ending gold as I nexted. Yeah ... spent over 90 k gold. Worst part? I'm only a th8 in gold two. Since when is th8 the raiding haven people say it is? If it was it no longer is. I have to boost to get enough gold to get upgrades. Which to me means it's almost unplayable. I can only imagine th9 or 10. *shudder* Going to keep climbing and hoping can find better lawns to place my troops on for now. But this is getting ridiculous. It honestly feels like I'm the only one holding anything in my storages sometimes. If I have to boost just to keep builders going forn2 million gold upgrades I'm never going even to th9. Feels like work to be honest. My phone battery has a limited life span ... you know what I'm saying?
:rolleyes:;) This thread hasn't really slowed down much, I'm surprised at this. The loot bonus? The war bonus? Both of these have helped, plus I'm finding good loot in gold 1(TH9). Th10s are having loot problems? What is the master1 or champ bonus for a 50% 1 star win? Surely that's enough to keep a th10 going?Quote:
Originally Posted by atapopo
Really? Well why don't you come on up and show us how easy it is to get a 50% win on all those maxxed th10s with lvl 40 heroes with a cheap army and no spells because I can tell you right now master 1 you don't see much else. It's mainly maxxed out champ bases so if gaining the win bonus is soooo easy why don't you show us how. You pretty much need a full gowiwi and 5 spells to get a 50 or else spend 300k searching for the odd low leveled base so either way the bonus barely helps break even. You shouldn't talk about things you don't understand, it just makes you look foolish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Player7
A thread filled with complainers.
There is no loot issue, the issue is with the poor attitude of the masses. There is no shortage of people progressing through the game. I have a clan filled with TH9/TH10 and you don't see them here campaigning. Who would sympathize with a TH9? There are tons of TH8s available to be steamrolled.
The game should take time to progress, and I think you people just want it all handed to your on a silver platter.
You should put things into better perspective and learn to adapt.
You are still here? You are a th8... You were caught lying already, and you just troll. Your new method is pretending to sound reasonable. You are a troll, this is a fact. Come on up to th10 and see for yourself, just gem your base to th10 and show us how to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
I'm not denying that TH10 is hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcman
I recognize that maxing out a TH10 takes time and labour. I'm content with that model of gaming, as I believe it should take a considerable amount of effort to be one of the top dogs.
Stop trolling and contribute like a member of society. People aren't whining about time. They aren't asking for anything handed to them. They're asking for the ability to even play the game. The challenges in this game are:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
1- designing a good base to repel attackers.
2- attacking a well designed base
3- waiting for upgrades to finish to make yourself stronger
Nowhere in there is the challenge of ... just finding a base worth enough to be able to do any of the above. Nowhere in there does it include ... spending earned resources just to search for a suitably wealthy enough base to cover nexting costs that increase so rapidly that the pressure to find a reasonable base increases as the chance of finding said base decreases as costs just to window shop make the required loot to profit climb to a point of untenable return.
No he's right, sitting here complaining won't fill up your storages, You must find an efficient farming method that suits the resources you are saving up for. I am a th10 and I am having no problem filling up my storages, and I'm in Crystal 3. Just adapt broQuote:
Originally Posted by Jcman
First off i was asking the question, never said it was easy. Regardless of that take a look at these league bonuses,is cyrstal 1 or master 3 achievable to 50% with a cheap enough army?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefm211
Crystal III 2,000 - 2,199 1,900 2,200 35,000 35,000 100
Crystal II 2,200 - 2,399 2,100 2,400 50,000 50,000 200
Crystal I 2,400 - 2,599 2,300 2,600 65,000 65,000 300
Master III 2,600 - 2,799 2,500 2,800 100,000 100,000 500
Master II 2,800 - 2,999 2,700 3,000 120,000 120,000 700
Master I 3,000 - 3,199 2,900 3,200 140,000 140,000 900
Champion 3,200+ 3,100 N/A 180,000 180,000 1,200
So I'm not going to come on here and say loot is fine for town hall 10, clearly elixer has taken a hit since that update. Instead of complaining though, I've switched up my farming strategy again. Just like in December when we needed to focus more on storage raids, it's time to adapt again. It appears to me that the only resource with out an issue is dark elixer, so I've been exclusively farming the dark stuff. I'm in gold one, picking on bases with over 1000 de available and farming enough to keep at least one hero upgrading, and another 1 or 2 builders busy as well. I rarely need to next more than 20 times to find a base with 1000 dark elixer.
It will be a long road, but my thought is that once all my heroes and dark elixer upgrades are finished I will switch to farming with a dark elixer heavy army such as gobarch or bam to finish up my walls. If I use an army low in elixer, more elixer will be available for for me to finish walls and level 40 heroes will make getting to the core of bases pretty easy (it's rare that I have both heroes available, but lvl 30 heroes with barch makes coring bases a breeze).
The loot situation is what it is, I don't really see SC making further changes, although I've been a big proponent of removing the free shield for town hall snipes, which I strongly believe will make it harder to save, but offer up more high loot bases. I'm not a hardcore farmer, I log in and out 10 times a day to raid and 95% of the time I get a free shield, even with 4 million gold and a 100k dark elixer in storages. I know there are many bases and players just like me and I'd like a fair crack at them.
I'm a TH9 midway (still) in Crystal 3 trying to work my way to two, and one. I end up loosing trophies trying for loot in bases I wouldn't usually hit. I miss the days when you'd run across a 9 or 10 here and there and only get 1-2 storages off of but bring in 300k. I don't boost anymore, waste of gems because I'll get bored nexting and quit. Mostly I play for war now.
Anyway I was hoping SC had said something at least we realize it still sucks and are working on it. Nothing it seems. Guess I'll keep farming. Before last two updates I never had a shield fall from time, now its and everyday thing. Lol
ah yes 140k, that's really going to cover your gowiwi with 3 rage and 2 freeze, seriously do some math. I farm in master 1 all the time, I can turn a tidy profit in gold and de but elixir was already tight before the update, now it's the holy grail. I go up to master 1 with 4 mill e and i farm there til I run out then I drop down to gold and pick on all the th9s who can't even touch my base and build up my e again so I can go back up to master. 140k doesn't cut it, doesn't even come close if you are taking on the real bases up there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Player7
What? People can get 50% with barch or loons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefm211
really? Cmon up and try it. I stay in masters on defensive wins, guess what attacks I win on? Barch and Loons �� you are welcome to try it anytime, I can always use the trophies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete82
Not saying it doesn't happen but it's not as easy as you seem to think. I would say for every successful barch on my base 25-30 fail and for every successful loon attack at least 10-15 fail. The only strategy that successfully 50%s almost every time is a gowi variant and now dragon/hound, neither of which is cheap.
People are saying on here that SC isnt noticing but, if theyre not, then theyre not reading the forum at all. lol
this is the only thread with this many entrees.
and yes its still difficult.
im just saying, it went from being able to farm my loot for upgrades, give some to the next guy who raided me. break shield and get back to work to NOT being able to upgrade anymore troops at all and not being able to keep elixir.
*** Possibly due to the being able to buy walls with elixir?
why dont they just make that for TH 10 ppl?
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Xizeta,,,,, I'm guessing by the way you offer advice and criticize th10's that you yourself are a th10 and have found the way to looting success, why don't you share it with us? Perhaps a video of one of your amazing attacks? I for one, as a th10 with loot troubles, would love to see such a video and learn from it, thanks in advance!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
Well I win about 90%+ at M2 with loons. I know people that barch in champs and post youtube clips of it. My farming sweet spot for 50% and loot is around 2700, so I don't stray far from there. I'll happily give you as many trophies as you want though, if you have loot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefm211
yes I know there are people who barch and loon in champions as well sweetheart. Guess what? They post their successes on YouTube not their failures. Are you telling me you don't cherrypick the bases you attack with loons? If you are, I call bull. That's one of the reasons I dropped loons and moved on, they just aren't versatile enough, you need to suit the base to the army which I find too restrictive, I prefer an army that can take on any base I come across that has loot. If you think you are that good though head on up to M1 and start taking on the Champ bases that get searched, I can tell you right now they have plenty of loot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete82
I too had £70 ($100) set aside to accelerate my troops... Just hope that sc has seen a drop in profits so they will fix the economy, use to be an active player spending a couple of hours a day on it after work, now I just log on to collect.. And slowly losing the motivation to do thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Chiefthawk
Man, everyone is so friendly around here. No, I'm not very good at attacking. That is why I stick to M2 and farm easy bases. I definitely am very selective with what I attack. My only point is that you don't need a GoWiPe and multiple spells to get 50% in champs. Certain skilled players can barch for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefm211
barching to 50 percent is really pretty easy if you know what to look for. The problem is loot is sparce even up to 3300+, sure occasionally you get some whale but for the most part it's nexting past endless bases with less than 100k ea. and basically raiding for the loot bonus. I've dropped back to m3 and saw no improvement all the way down, c3 used to be a sweet spot so I may head there next. Clash is really becoming a grind lately though and I still strongly believe the only solution is additional levels on collectors for th9 and 10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete82
Maxing a base and being a top dog are two different things. I'm assuming by top dog you mean leaderboard, right? Or am I misinterpreting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
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Originally Posted by Stefm211
I keep 5 builders busy as a th10 barching 50% in M3. pretty easy stuff. just take ur AQ and 4 lite 1 rage.
So... You boost constantly I assume... I would guess 4+ hours a day right? Sitting for hours at a time every day making minimal loot per raid is not the answer. If it works for you, thats great, but this is a mobile game, different playstyles should be possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by GREGORY
That being said, m3 and champs is very different.
You cannot barch then logout over and over in champs... TH 10s have huge trap rearm costs. If you have full storages, You will lose on Defense, up to another 2-300k gold potentially. How are people who cant play for hours at a time supposed to barch in champs?
Interesting formulation - I'd make collectors red on TH9 and storages yellow as adding the extra mortar has made low level attacks for lix even more expensive. What would be useful to see would be the option of raiding very rarely and relying on shields plus revenges as income.
The extra mortar does make me wonder if this is all planned out by Supercell as a means of extracting money for gems from longer terms players as they realise the game is reaching the peak of its income stream from these people.
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Originally Posted by Romedog
I am pretty sure, they have all the data they need... we dont know how they are analysing it but they did acknowledge that there is a problem.... the only question is - are they going to do something about it and if yes what and when?Quote:
Originally Posted by Romedog
Its been a while since there have been complaints about the loot problem... It would be good to get an official word with a short feedback on what is going on and if they are actually considering something
As a th9 i barched to masters without spells or heroes, so barching in masters for loot bonus seems quite viable to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefm211
Its as good a place as any for a th10 to barch anyway
In M3 is the important part of this equation. M3 you are still picking on C1 players and almost everyone has collectors exposed around the entire base, I repeat come on up to M1. Almost every base has NO exposed collectors and almost no exposed buildings at all, if you want to barch you are gonna burn through tons of gold looking for a barch able base. You cannot compare M3 and M2 with M1 and champs so just quit trying to make the comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by GREGORY
besides what are you doing wasting 5 spells with barch? Doesn't that defeat the entire purpose of an elixir cheap army? Smh
You're a TH8 you know nothing about TH10 loots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
Either way the loot is inconsistent, its there somewhere but you're not going to find it, its absurd that its standard to search for several minutes just to raid
In a word, yes. It was one of the sleaziest things they did. Probably thought up by the same goon who thought up Lix for walls.Quote:
Originally Posted by theparallaxview
The "quantitative easing" of 1 gem collector boosts every once in a while is nice but doesn't cut it. I believe upping the collector rate for the higher level collectors and/or allowing the collectors to be upgraded further would be key to increasing the resource economy to what it once was. It just seems like it becomes a greater issue once you hit TH 8 and above where everything costs 2+mil and the collectors become irrelevant. I think you need to keep the collectors relevant.
A++. I think this would be a great approach for them to take with their data. They need to keep collectors relevant at higher TH levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Romedog
It's a multi million dollar / day business.
The important number monitored is the daily revenue.
Please, don't use words when you don't know what they mean just to sound smart, the rest of what you said lost all credibilityQuote:
Originally Posted by MightyRedwood
Been on a 🏆 push since just before update, so the 50% increase on champ bonus is great for me. It makes power armies just about sustainable, even with accepting very poor loot because its not the focus. Only elix losses now are losses on att and def.
Just a gentle reminder, it might not be what WE want, but SC still want it to be all about 🏆s. So they buffed the league bonuses. Like it or not, high as you can level farming for mostly bonus is still the way forward.
Do you know what the word regression means?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
That's the state of the game.
You clearly haven't played long enough to understand this.
I'm doing the same thing but at this rate I will NEVER see the Lava Hounds or Barb 7. The only reason I got Arch 7 was because I had maxed elix before the update. Now I get to 2 mill elix and watch it drain from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by NateH
Games broken. It's simple.
It's out of balance.
And for the 100,000,000 millionth time Barching is not the answer.
Pretty sure the game wasn't designed to be a barching game.
Last time I checked its a strategy game.
Barching takes so much skill :rolleyes:
So many good suggestions in this thread but no action on SC's part.
Next...
I have not played for the best part of a week - just collecting resources and the odd raid while I am on line doing this. Not the kind of farming I would like to be doing!
I am noticing the chat in my clan elongate...Never used to get longer than 1-2 hours but lately it can hit close to over 12 hours I cant even moan as a leader that is just not bothered any more to log on himself!
Supercell are failing at this in my view. Its been months of absolutely terrible loot...but it seems to me that as long as new players are attracted to the game - and new players will not notice the poor loot (kicks in at TH9 in my view) - then SC are not really motivated to do anything about the problem that we have been talking about for almost 1,000 pages - more if we include the other thread/s.
We need more loot at the point of raiding. People asking for more collectors or collector upgrades do not really understand the problem...make raiding fun and worthwhile again...thats about the top and bottom of it.
First I'm not saying loot is good. Not even close. But it is still very possible for a TH10 to get up to 8m elix without playing that much. If you don't like barching, fine. Use loons, go up to about 2600-2800. I've kept my lab busy and the rest of the elix going to level 10 walls. I dont play often, just log in when my loons are ready and attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biz
What's your secret to not getting attacked when you're not online?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete82
I tried loons in M2 and every time I logged off, I got smoked big time for huge elixir losses. As in, there was no way I was going to pay for my loons and make back what I'd lost in elixir in one raid. Wasn't a big deal in the evenings when I could keep the game open while waiting for the next set of loons to cook, but was a bit of problem when I went to bed for the night and woke up to huge elixir losses. And then I couldn't raid at work, so after the shield ran out, that would be another big loss.
Hmm, I'm not really sure. With my TH outside I get sniped very quickly. With my TH inside I don't get attacked very often. I mean even an all out army rarely gets 4 storages against max TH10 defenses. These aren't champ level attackers at all here in low to mid masters.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordHalestorm
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Originally Posted by Pete82
Funny that cause im doing the exact same thing and i havent crossed 2 million in weeks.
(Should mention though that i dont need elixir - troops and spells maxed)
Perhaps im using too many spells but with the bases im seeing that have loot, i need them.
The last 2 nights were brutal for me, to the point that I just stopped playing. It is very hit or miss. I try for 0-1 spells per battle, 16 loons. It is actually a pretty cheap elix army all things considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
To everyone else, I'm not saying loot is good or the game is fine, but I am saying you can scrape by if you adapt. My playing time and spending is dwindling though, because it just isn't as much fun anymore.
I agree with you. I don't see how you can earn much lix right now. I too am doing loonian, in crystal 1 currently, was in Masters 3. for the bases that have good amounts of gold, de and lix around, you need spells to get it, and in the end you make very little lix. I posted a few days ago results of 5 loon attacks. All wins. Including bonuses and minus costs, I did ok with gold and DE, but lix profit was under 75K per attack. At that rate, you need it will take a long time to get a lab upgrade going......Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
Barch eternally in master 3 and aim for 50% in bases with at least 80k resources (actually i accept 50k+... i see collectors only, dont care about storages because with new mortar barch is useless to reach them) + 1500 least DE. It is a pain, i need at least 1 hero up to make 50% without overusing spells, so it means 1 attack/hour. It is sluggish, but at least consistent. I do not get attacked very often since i already have great defenses, but sometimes getting attacks means i average about 1m resources per day max + a good amount of DE wich means that at least my heroes are being upgraded. Other 4 builders usually stay idle for long periods, so is the lab.
yeah, game is sucking elephant balls and i dont hope they will fix this - they need gemmers buying stuff too much for this. Loot is ♥♥♥♥, the current collectors and upgrades and battle loot were designed to suit at maximum th8, but they sticked th9 and 10 up games sss anyway and kept the exponential dificulty curve kicking, so now they aint able to fix itwithout breaking the game utterly on lower levels. A shame.
I think real change to the economy of loot in the game will change when SC stops looking at the data and starts looking at players satisfaction with the game. As I continue to hit next 100+ looking for a quality raid that is worth hitting for loot my enjoyment in the game dwindles.
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Originally Posted by Leonardo
And really, I think you nailed it in the last paragraph there. And probably the thing that made this so obvious was the elixir for walls change. Now it is very plainly obvious to most all TH10 and many TH9 players that the economy is broken...
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Originally Posted by Pete82
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I do the same thing but I usually stay in the 2850-2950 range. I find that when I'm up here if my th is outside its about a 99% chance that I will get sniped. In fact, if you get up around 2925+ most of the time you get hit by players WAY above you so you only lose 1 or 2 trophys at a time and it's easier to maintain your level while you log in and out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete82
However, the second your th goes inside, you will be hit by a GoWi army. It's guaranteed.
It's so hit and miss it's crazy. Yesterday was actually a really good day farming wise. I found a lot of exposed ths to snipe for a nice bonus and also some very good raids for 300/300 without having to use more than 1 spell (I don't even bother putting DE numbers up anymore cuz DE is everywhere). However, when I logged on in the evening I hit next for over 20 minutes and ended up losing gold (luckily I still made a 150k elixer profit).
I just skip bases until I can find one that I can get at least 200/200 with 0 or 1 spell. Before this elixir for walls debacle the farming wasn't great (I regularly hit next 100+ times), but I could keep all 5 builders and lab going constantly, and still upgrade usually a wall a day (lava). Since the update, I regularly have 2 or 3 builders free and my lab went dormant for a couple of days and I almost never do walls anymore.
I'm playing less and less and just find myself doing clan wars.
Since its obvious by now that SC caused this situation intentionally, not a mistake or miss judgment.. We can do onething that can have them listen and fix the situation.
If everyone got on their global chat whenever they can and tell all those new commers about what is facing them in the future , and maybe direct them to read this thread . I am sure SC will stop being so greedy and back off .
The last 3 days have been absolutely horrific looting wise. I'm close to jacking the game in if this continues.
I'm a maxed THL8 and THL6's keep coming up with next to nothing. This happening for anyone else? Why? Why? Why?
Just complete bull♥♥♥♥ and no point whatsoever in raiding. Why should I even bother upgrading to THL9 as I won't be able to upgrade anything. Spent a few hours searching for a raid so I could do my clan war attack.
SC please fix whatever you've done as people have had enough.
Simple solution to this madness is to stop gold cost for searches and do 1 gem resource boost once a week. Oh and adding new levels to current rescource pumps.
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I think we'll see more of this with the higher league bonuses. More lower camps are venturing upward to try to get the bigger loot rewards. With my TH9 camp in gold 1-3, I see TH7 and even sometimes a few TH6 camps come up on matchmaking. To some extent, I'd love to see SC get rid of the loot penalty for attacking lower camps once a camp ventures above a certain level. For example, a TH8 in crystal is fair game for TH9 and 10 without a loot penalty. Would keep people from venturing up above their play level and creaking more "nexts" for those of us that belong at that trophy level...
Still a lot of nexting. 10 min of nexting is simply to much.
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Just nexted 50 times and did a count of THL6's that came up. 42 friggin times. Absolute joke!!!
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And while I'm on the warpath today, SC, please stop the lighting spells only attacks on dark elixir storage or taking any other resources. Lightning spell should only be effective on defences only. What is the point in me putting in the centre of my base if any idiot can zap it without any skill???
If they wipe out my base to get my dark elixir, then I have no complaints.