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I've been playing for about three months, just recently made TH8 and with the amount of elixor and gold needed for upgrades and with the total lack of it (1400 a 1600 trophy range), this is where it's gonna end for me. It sucks because I really do enjoy the strategy of the game but spending hour after hour nexting is a complete waste of time. It's apparent by the amount of posts to this thread that this has been an issue for quite some time. I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, I'm sure it probably has, but im noticing a lot of people must be relying on farming loot because im seeing a lot of higher level bases with low level collectors. If SC is indeed removing inactives and more and more people are relying on farming instead of upgrading their collectors, it has to create a rss vacuum. There are some really good ideas here for helping with this decreasing loot issue, I hope SC can do something to address it sooner rather than later.
I jumped on here to see if anyone else was having issues looting/raiding. I've spent so much gold hitting the 'next' button since the update. Overnight it seems all villages have lost all their loot. I was killing it literally the day before the update along with others in my clan then boom! Nada.... nothing I've tried the crystal and gold leagues.
well, i also playing for 3 month so i dont really know what its like before dec update that they say really good loot. what i do know after this update the loot are erratic, sometime i found 200K plus in just less then 20 next many time in a row (collector raid )..sometimes i can next for 100 times and not found any. today is quite good more then 15 mill combine loot for 8 hours playing with 3 times boosting one barrack. i barch in gold 2 and 3 so maybe thats why i cant get alot of lix. from my exp..the loot is ok...maybe lower then before the lix wall update but i think sc will not make it easy for us anymore because they hiding (deprioritize ...:) ) the inactive quite a lot.
i envy those guys that get 1 Bill+ GG because i will take a year to get that level with current loot condition..so i support this thread for SC to get back to last year system...so i can get my 1 Bill GG asap.....:)
Just checking in to say that loot is still terrible.
i agree. its so bad. not like before, i dont look forward to raiding anymore. it became a chore.
FUBAR-Defined
After the update were you could use Elixir to upgrade your wall, the loot have just been horrible. If i'm going to collect elixir to update my troops or buildings, I can't build strong troops and I just have to use Barbarians, archer or goblins. No, giants, wallbrakes, balloons.... and so on. I'm on the Chrystal 1 and 2 range for a couple of months for now, and I barely find a base with a loot of elixir now. The elixir store are just empty.
in c1,2,3 and masters where I am farming I had to press next over 100 times to find a base over 100k. ?? cmon even a maxed base with 400k.. nothing, there is nothing above 100k!!!
I'm wondering... is this the end of this beautiful game???:(
I think the game is on the downhill slide. All good things must come to an end. I have been as high as Master 1, and have dropped down to each league in between to gold 1 in search of a decent place to find loot, and I cannot seem to find anything. Time to just step away from the game for a while and see what happens.
Yesterday i decided to become an active raider again, after a month of being an active collector tapper. I am so glad i did. I raided three times in the morning. 2.5 hours wasted and my total gold "profit" was MINUS 100k. I am in Master 3, and even the 100k loot bonus was swallowed up along with the loot i was able to steal from my attacks.
So, i calmly said goodbye in clan chat and left the clan I started over one year ago. Games should be fun. When they cease being fun, they have no purpose anymore.
Of all the copycat games out there, (and i really don't know, because i don't play them.....yet) do any of them need to have a win bonus to help support the crappy loot system?
BTW, i have spent all my gold on the skeleton trap, my delixer on upgrading my useless king, and my purple has been spent on my walls ( awesome feature, yes?). So you will have to wait for my collectors to fill before taking my stuff.
2 years of love flushed down the crapper. I hope things improve so i can have fun playing with my CoC again sometime.
Sorry to hear you leaving, but I can certainly understand it. I can't find anything worth attacking with my TH10 camp. The last few days, I have found some stuff casually gaming with my TH9 camp - mostly inactives or loaded TH8 camps in the gold 2 area. But it's not even worth playing my TH10 camp. Just a losing proposition if I want to keep loot. So I may just collect it, use it for wars with my clan, and wait again until the next war 3-5 days later. We aren't even warring as often because the 3 or 4 of us TH10s that fill up the cc's can't afford to go more often - not enough lix out there...
so every update the loot gets worse and now its to the point of ditching the game all together i nexted 256 times this morning which is by far the most patience i have ever had with the next button only to find 1 base with over 100k gold and elix... i dropped trophies from 1900-1200 and still can't find squat.
its sad that the only intriguing part of this game is now the wars. to me supercell is just taking money out of their own pockets if they don't fix this problem sooner rather than later me along with plenty of other people on this thread have already stated that the game isn't even really worth playing anymore.
supercell comes through with great ideas, i love the update excluding adding a 4th mortar but who cares its a change which is good. but the update is meaningless if people are so put off about loot that they stop playing altogether. in my year of playing this game I'm to the point where i don't even want to get on because i know ill just be stuck nexting over and over for nothing. which intern means no loot for upgrades research etc. if theres no profit to be made then it will take away the entire aspect of progression which entirely defeats the point behind playing in the first place.
I agree with getting loot for defending would be kind of cool as it would mean defense had more of an importance. But if you would rather have to attack hard bases that had a little more loot the army alone would cost over 2 hours if you wanted your spells. You would not be able to keep builders going unless you attacked all day long.
The loot is still terrible in this game, even after the update. I spend 100k on gold looking over bases with 50-60k loot. And then I get off. I wake up to see that 750k gold has been taken from me. SEVEN HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND. And this is in 14 hours. I am a level 83 th8, and my attackers are level 100 th9-10s. Each of them are able to take 250-300k gold. Not to mention it costs 100k to rearm my traps, and my collectors only make 20k. I am so sick of the crappy loot that Supercell will never fix. Clash of clans is no longer fun to play when its impossible to raid and everybody steals what I am able to scrap up.
yah, the loot situation is soo terrible for th10, and to an extent th9, if you're a th8 holding that much loot, you're gonna get hit hard by us all. Sorry about that. My suggestion, drop down in trophies. Down to gold 3, maybe even silver, and start hitting some th7s
For two hours I forced myself to "play" CoC and hit next. Two hours and a profit of about 300k thanks to a few exposed th's giving me the bonuses. There were also real attacks but thanks to the 1k per next they made me no profit in the end.
Right now SC is worse than EA.
edit okay, that is cruel. SC is not quite as bad as EA but they don't exactly get to shine either
Recently it has become difficult or even sometimes impossible to gain resources for upgrades with raids offering so little loot. I m not talking about gold or silver leagues....its in the crystal and above leagues that loot for farming raids is so less that after using spells, spending elixir on troops, spending gold (1000 coins per search) on finding a decent target.....you almost go into negative.
On the other side because loot is good for TH 8 and TH 9...their walls upgrading is more impressive than TH 10 and its making even harder for TH 10 peeps to go farm lower THs. There is no uniformity in raiding system in recent weeks for TH 10...only few times you get some inactive bases full with resources to raid and most of the other time its so tight that it grinds you down to totally demotivate playing coc.
So this is totally unfair as compared with other TH looting system.....CoC should consider farming viability for TH 10 to keep the game moving and remove disadvantages for TH 10. Make it fun...games are not for wasting time without having any fun.....
SC has definitely removed many inactive bases during the update,I was farming millions from dead bases just few hours before the update but now i can't find even 100k+ bases.
I'm TH9 btw.
im only th8 but i now experience this terrible loot problem, what if i reach th10?! Since the elixir on walls upgrade everything went down for me. They did this on purpose to force us to buy their precious gem. Simply because....
Its their BUSINESS. Profit. $$$
the loot has been great for me the past two days at around 1700 trophies. Stop being so whinny, the loot comes in waves. Take the good with the bad, its never consistent, and its always been that way since i started last january.
I just used 140k gold nexting trying to complete 4.5 mil for my lvl 6 barbs,I was planning on spending $10 in gems to speed up my archers research and start barbs,but with this lack of loot it aint happening,so ill save my $ or spend it on beer and go outside to enjoy a sunny day. Thanks
Maxed th10 level 132 working on lava walls all farmed...prob over a billion gold grab
Today I uninstalled the game, the game is broken, boring and turned to absolute garbage, hopefully I do not return
I only have 450k gold and I have 250k available loot when people attack me? Why? In fact I dont care why because I will no longer play this broken game
ShrivelStump Out...Raid me im now a dead base
Loot is bad my clan is doing a push right now and so many have had to stop or slow down due to no elixir!
I have been from c2-m2 and found 3/4 collector raids after multiple 4-6 hour sessions.
I have hit some good storage raids they are out there, but 99% of these bases are under 50k of each resource!! How are we supposed to enjoy the game when we can't afford to attack. Rant over!
Looken for loot? Try around 1800 to 1840.Have not been nexting much at all
This thread is more entertaining than playing clash of clan. Its that bad (loot)
After a long time, I can now say I am OK with the clash economy. In order to do so, however, I've had to climb to Master II for farming, relying heavily on the loot bonus. I can see now as well that the economy and gameplay will not return to its prior day, so encourage those can farm at higher levels to do so. I now plan to move up to Master I for an even better bonus.
Thinking this over, it's definately a setback to those days of easy looting, but feel that as players rise to the occasion, will get a more immersive gameplay. Clash on!
Listen Guys, Super knows that their loot system is ♥♥♥♥. They also know loads of us farm. Since they are so hungry for our $$$ they added a 4th Mortar to th8 to stop us farmers from farming,when they knew that it shouldnt exist or could have at least been for th9+ Only, on top of that they feed u this ♥♥♥♥ about 20% bonus and league bonus to hide the fact their dumping inactive bases. They think that we will all result into pushing and playing along to their little scam and end up gemming if we need extra loot.
You can complain all you want. They made this thread as like a "garbage can" to their forums so if any complaints come in about loot it wouldnt ruin their perfect little site. They dont listen nor give 2 -***** about us when it comes to making money.
This weekend loot has been rather awesome, better than last week.
Got both xbows upgrading to lv2 (5M each), one cannon and AQ going up, left one builder for lv9 walls which I managed to do several of (114 done so far). :o
SC must return to the old loot system
Now that I have quit clash, I come here sometime, to this thread in particular for amusement. I doubt sc even reads yours complaints, they are too busy counting money. People need to let go and move on, it was fun while it lasted.
Th10/ level141/
Just got 8 million gold and 1 day till next builder is free. loot is good, now close this thread.
Yes guys. Please do quit. More players that quit = More inactives = BETTER LOOT
TH 9 mid to max town. I farm around 2000 cups, gold I or cristal III. I start today a session 2 hours ago on Arizona time.
It is the worst session witch i begin from long time ago.
I not count how many bases i press next but most of them was under 75k each resources. A lot with 30-40. How a th9 or th10 can survive and upgrade with this loot in they r bases ?
Most of time i have one resources over 150k, even gold or elixir.
To count exactly, 1 of 15 are tough bases, basiclly maxed with a lot of loot, few 100-120k and others like i said, craps.
how could u say u find a lot of loot when all cups are dry ?
I had a great weekend farming :).
You have to look hard for loot as a TH9 but it its out there. The poor TH10s can't farm in my cup range as I seem to spend all my time hitting TH8s.
GL TH10s. I never want to upgrade :p
I don't get the idea of adding inactives again and making everyone happy right after the halloween update , then leaving inactives to be raided for a couple days maybe three. Then taking them out again after that? I really want to understand why did that happen , was that our "treat" or something?
Loot still sucks... Clinging to hope it'll get better...
It's been confirmed that supercell removes inactive bases. Check friends collectors on gamecenter. Even Daddy from youtube confirmed it. He is also staff on te forums. Here is the link he says it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RXzS_y5fTyY
There are much more weak bases in crystal now that the league bonus has encouraged more people to push up. I used to barch in gold league but have now moved to crystal for the extra de bonus. A slight decrease in gold/elix but a huge increase in de.
Hi
I am having a problem in finding good loots to raid, at night only. Before the previous update (wizards update) I could still find 200k gold from a reasonable opponent at night. But after the update, every Next button brings 20-80k raid of gold only. If the 200k or more gold comes about, it will be an insane opponent.
Anyone experiencing the same effect? I can’t use my phone from 8-5 as I will be working so the only time I raid on weekdays is at night + weekends. But now that good loots can’t be found at night, damn…
Help!
GK:(
No doubt.
Softbank hasnt broke even yet with the 1.5 billon dollar purchase.
Hence the last minute mortar update.
Game is now designed by financial factor instead of fun factor.
Funny, how the giant corporations of the world lose sight of the philosophy of the companies they buy, in their quest to seek world domination.:rolleyes:
Leave your shareholders out of it....have faith in the original designers. They have already proven they can make more money without your input.
Figure it out SoftBank.....or do I have to spell it out in Japanese?
Methinks you need to understand how the world works before you give out advice.
A business doesn't exist for you to have fun. The aren't around to satisfy your whims, or to make sure you enjoy yourself. They are here to do one thing: make money.
Making Clash isn't something they do in their free time, it's a full time job. If you think they should focus on your fun over their finances you're inherently saying their time is less valuable as they will get less compensation. On the other hand, your time gets to be more valuable as you get to receive more satisfaction during it. Why is it fair that the team doing the work and taking the risks is less valuable than the person complaining?
Figure it out....if you want to make the decisions, invest enough to deserve to.
Methinks you misunderstood the message.
Supercell made a game that was fun and made updates that were fun....it was more profitable than it is now.
Updates since the SoftBank acquisition.....well if you have played awhile...you know the trend.(and it's not making them more money)
lol loot is so painfully bad. made about 2 mil from boosted barracks and boosted spell factory. i think only got 200k+ gold from 2 attacks. im barching btw so lots of attacks.
Wow...mention loot....you get piled into the loot thread twilight zone.
kudos though....good way to bury the thread.
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but how about a defensive win bonus as well? Shame to see a +44 cups on log in with nothing but resource loss for the wins.
Loot sucks. How much longer do we have to wait for change???
Keep thinkin that. This whole loot problem is brought on and can be easily fixed by not putting inactives so far in the search list. 100% this probelem can be fixed over night but SC only cares about money now, it's painfully ♥♥♥♥ing obvious.
Im im over this game and decided to sell my account
Solve loot problem by promoting the use of farming bases. Lets all snipe each other for the league bonus!
Why you guys blaming supercell.. They can't create a target with 200k loot just for you.. Take an example most of the farmers play 2-3 hrs daily on avg.. In a day he/she will be on shield for 20-21 hrs.. Most of the shield comes from th snipe.. You can't fix this unless all of you guys keep your TH in the center.. Why don't you guys do this instead of blaming supercell..?.. I guess none will change their farming base..
A different company runs clash now??
The vast majority of bases that hit my queue have TH inside...they also have sub 100k of each. What's your point?
If farmers put their THs inside as well why do you think the issue would resolve? Farmers can spend resources just like anyone else - more efficiently you could argue...ie raid just enough to do an upgrade and log off, or sink spare resource into walls, etc etc...
Maybe someone will listen to me one day but the issue is the economy and the way we are expected to get loot. It is rare to see 200k+ in storages - why? Because it is common to have something that costs less than 200k to spend the resource on. Raiding from each other with the Next queue stacked the way it is is a problem. Uf I see 300k in a raid, 9 times out of 10 it is from an abandoned base - very rare to see an "active" player holding on to that much resource before logging off.
I wrote this entire post and saw nothing above 100k of each - 2300 cups.
When players are relying on an abandoned base to offer them good loot, then the economy is broken my friend...simple...The additional loot bonus did not scratch the surface of the problem - we are still "nexting" for over 10mins regularly...15mins is probably the bottom end of my average...20mins is expected...So, I barely play.
Still no loot , nexting like an idiot and setting for 100/100 bases . Combined with the lootbonus in masters you can make an increddible 100k profit . Only gonna take 75 attacks to start an archertower . It's not only clash thats no longer fun . Supercell decided that players in boombeach are getting to much loot also so they nerfed the ♥♥♥♥ out of it to a point it's not playable anymore . Great company , never gonna trust them again .
Loot is improving,today I could find 1 inactive base within 20 "next".
so its an easy 250k-550k bases.;)
I'm Th9 btw....
Loot was never bad for me (just at random moments). i thank SC by buying gems for boosting every week.
my th: 9
6 months playing
6 to 8 million gold and elixir daily. An average of 15 million mixed daily
league: find it yourself, that's part of the challenge, isnt it.
you're just hoovering over the wrong places, that's all.
Tbh loot has been better for me the past days.
Did change my composition and strategy a bit: added 8 giants and 8 WB's to my barch army and I hit any easy 200K or 1K DE, whatever comes first.
WOW thats amazing!! well done to you sir excellent job! its great to see such brilliance. :rolleyes:
Now, do tell me how you spend that average of 15 million every day???
6 months playing, about 180 days, 15 million a day.... 2.700.000.000 combined resources??? (2.7 billion) lol...
You'd have to do 50 raids a day and take 300k in each raid to get that amount...
Come back with some facts & evidence mate and we might take you seriously.
Hell i'll even ask the mods to close this cause obviously there's no issue.
I am fully maxed at TH8. Farming is a nightmare compared to when I joined the game 6 months ago. My last few upgrades have been really difficult to resource, and I admit to part gemming the last DE upgrade I made.
I am in a great clan that wars constantly. With the defences I have, and the troop combos at my disposal, I make a good contribution to the war effort being always in positive star territory.
Progressing in the traditional sense of leagues and TH level has no attraction anymore. Before clan wars I would have left the game at this point now that loot is so hard to get and with all the nexting involved. When loot was more sensible I would probably have gone up to TH9, but I am happy with where I am just now. I can afford my war armies from wins and collectors so farming and nexting are things of the past.
You guys will love my base with its gold storages outside next to my TH. With full barracks you won't get much else but if my E and DE storages start to attract raiders I will be glad to let you empty them. I have gemmed for the last time so I suppose I am a freeloader now as far as Supercell is concerned.
It has become a different game since loot was nerfed, but I have found a way to continue getting fun from it.
As a TH 9 I make the same. Why should people have prove their good loot clams. Can always check my village out.
Here a pre update link on the state of my walls. My walls have been coming along nicely since then. I now have 213 Lego's and 137 Lava's.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...89#post2820389
I spend it on walls and upgrades, Einstein
I've grabed almost 1.300.000.000 combined resources. I you want a screen capture I'll gladly post it.
Obviously I didn't make that much the first months of playing due to my Barch been weaker.
And yes, is possible to do 50 raids a day and take 300k (I boost my barracks)
8m gold per day at TH9 was certainly possible back when I was TH9 - it is what I used to do every day I played...It took all day though and a good chunk of the evening! (Non boosted)
Same player - me - was not able to get anywhere close to that at TH10. I guess I was bashing a lot of TH8 when I was a TH9 cos my loot plummeted at TH10. 4m a day is now fairly exceptional - mainly due to the fact I give up trying after an unnecessarily long next session...
Raided first thing this morning...too many nexts...not raided since. Thats how clash is right now...want to play - but dont because nexting sucks
My clan exists
United Fire 211 If you can not find by name Tag:#CLYJ9Q9
I now have got:
37 Skulls still
76 Lego's
137 Lava's
For last 2 -3 week's been putting 18-22 Mill into my walls daily. Still got 4 builders busy and lab.
Since update came out have spent 584 Mill on my walls. Started to barch now and doubled my hourly gain roughly. Before barching was doing around 10-12 mill into walls daily.
I'm surprised people are still complaining. Not because the loot issue isn't over, far from it, but because this shows people still care enough about CoC. I'm at this point where I don't care anymore. Yes, it's a shame Supercell is not able/does not want to find a balance for the economy of later THs, and now it seems all this time upgrading THs has been wasted, but I just don't feel like nexting 100's of times for attacking a base with 100k gold. If Supercell isn't even able to find a solution to the Opt In/Out issue in clanwars, and instead brings out a 4th mortar (seriously - ♥♥♥), not only shows this how out of touch they are from their own game, but that they don't have a clue what they should do. This will probably be my last post in this forum, good luck guys and shame on you Supercell.
I added a poll to estimate how many TH10 player do not buy gems anymore.
100 nexts with no bases above 150k gold in Crystal 2.
Another awesome raiding day.
I'm in Crystal I. I spent just a hair over 200k in gold nexting with a big army and spells, just to find a base that was inactive and could have been raided with Barch. With the win bonus I gained around 90k in gold. Seeing so many bases with less than 50k of each resource. This is just getting old.