An electric wall that looks like it zaps, thats enough nexting to win the lottery in your case.
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You want to spend hours grinding for that single tiny wall block?
Is that how you want to live your life?
This green square block is where my villagers obey my orders that I summon all day.
Know why there are so many th10s with preemie walls? Because they dont think its worth it to spend hours of their life to get better walls!
Other then asthetic appeal walls matter little in defence. Whatever little help it provided is cancelled by the fact that it is so damn hard to do them
As promised. I believe that transferring the gold spent on nexting to actually anywhere is a good idea and not let it just disappear.
I think your idea in specific would work on adding extra loot to a scenario where the loot is already good or stable.
If it would be a quick solution to the no-loot problem? It is a slow process, even with all the active players and despite the many nextings, it would take lots of time until you'd start seeing the effects of it IMO. We also need to consider players who attack and use those resources obtained immediately for their own upgrades, which is only natural & fair, but this would terminate the flow of that gold & elixir - but of course in the long run everyone should be able to take advantage of it
Still a good idea in my book
Walls are hard work, if you dont want to grind them, dont. But its not like they dont have a benefit.
If it weren't already obvious, here is a specific example. In war, one of my clannies, who usually 2 stars any strength th10 with gowiwi and level 20 heroes, attacked a maxed turret th10 with PINK walls. The attack didnt go brilliantly, but got 85%! Why? Because his heroes didnt get stuck ♥♥♥♥ing through walls when they wanted to change sections.
If you watch any failed attack with ground troops, most of the time its going to boil down to CC issues, or walls not broken, which changes the direction and flow of your attack.
Stronger the walls, more chance of a screw up. Plus, what else you gonna do when you maxed, quit?
Yes the wait times for training are annoying, but if you want a game that lets you sit and play it all day, but a console game, pay £40-50 for it up front, and they let you play it all day, no waiting inbetween.
This a freemium game, that either involves waiting, or spending money. Look at all the other freemium games, they are either rips of this, or have an irritating energy meter. Itll let you play constantly for maybe 10-30 minutes, then u can either wait hours or reach for the credit card.
The point is such long waiting times do not make fun gameplay especially when your progress is so slow and the whole process is just doing the same thing over and over again. They could have at least halved the training time and provided more side quests to do while you wait for your troops.
the ridiculous train times are also a key reason why people complain about the loot so much
The loot was VERY good for me just after the update but now I'm not finding anything at all. I tried from G2 all the way to C1 but I still found nothing, all while waiting 20 minutes in between for my army to train. Would you be happy if you spent hours finding for loot but not finding anything?
This game is no longer based on skill, it is now based on luck that is what I find unacceptable
I wouldn't mind the repetitive nature of the game if the train times were shorter and you spend more time raiding than searching for bases, then you would actually feel a sense of accomplishment doing something meaningful
sadly all that accomplishment is gone since the loot disappeared since the start of the year
I should correct myself, I am unhappy with the game mechanics with the current loot system,
the original training times made sense when the game was released since loot was easy to get and the upgrades were cheaper
now, loot is scarce and everything is so damn expensive but the training time still remains the same, naturally players have to spend more time to achieve the same rate of progress.
the training time could be reduced a little ( especially for higher ths) so as to have higher players more time to catch up while renewing their interest in the game, being able to attack more frequently and getting more loot for progress.
the training time could also be lowered in higher leagues so as to actually give people an incentive to push as it gives more farming efficiency.
TH9 507 mil GG btw
Didnt Supercell fly all the Youtubers out to Finland for a meetup a few weeks ago??? Of course these guys are gonna downplay the economic crisis if they're on the payroll. Duh...
Something strange I have realised is that loot at higher ranges seems to become more and more rare.
There used to be many inactives in c2, then the inactives moved towards c1 and eventually to masters and so on.
interestingly there has been little to no inactives as c1 has dried up significantly, I first pushed to masters in early June and c2/c1+ were full with collector bases.
Now there are hardly any inactives around 2800+ and loot in champs is much less and also hard to get to.
Today after pushing to c1, I have seen mostly preemie th10s with lvl1 inferno and x bow and gold/pink walls. There are also strong th9 and 10 however.
the preemie th10s offered little to no loot while the th9/10 had very decent but hard to get loot.
Very little inactives tho but then again very little inactives anywhere
Dude, just stop. There are many people who are unhappy with the exact same problems you are having, yet they can control themselves and not post 578439 posts in a row in the same thread. Condense it all, get it all in one comment and kindly ask a mod or someone to remove the rest. Consider others instead of yourself.
Besides, you're just waffling now. As for the comment of no ressies in M2+, ridiculous. I'm up here now and there is no shortage.
Go to specsavers and get off the forums, you're doing nothing but making people frustrated.
Strange I am in C1 (as th 10 ) at the moment but there is no loot whatsoever, just skipped more than 250K away, and lost more gold on nexting then profit from the raid. Really frustrating. :mad:
Is steve still working at SuperCell? Or has he quietly left the building at the back entrance?
I was on holiday during the past week so changed into a "casual player" only doing one or two raids a day (only had like 20 minutes of internet every day).
Sad to say I often wasn't even able to attack at those occasions. I'm not using my full loonian army plus spell for one of the many 5k bases.
Such a shame to say such a large part of the community is still being ignored.
They ask for feedback and do absolutely NOTHING with it.
This game has been going downhill since December.
sorry man I'm new to the forums no offence intended I'm just trying to show my concerns
i know that there is much loot at m3+ problem is most of the loot is protected by powerful defences. Loonion can get the, effectively but they take long time to train, thus necessitating boosting barracks/sf/heroes etc which not everybody can do. Getting the win is difficult and required experience and maintaining your trophy count is hard, not to mention going on defence
in any case the loot is clearly increasing up the trophy count requiring more effort to take in getting up there. I have not seen INACTIVES very commonly either. What works for you may not work for others too, having to first get to m2+ and all. Loot is just difficult to get and very inconsistent which is what is frustrating many
In masters 3 - loot is horrible! There is hardly any elixir except in strong bases. I see premie after premie th10 with a mix of pink and purple walls and zero elixir. Just tons of bases with under 50k elixir or gold. Yuck, no point in raiding. Back to gowipe raids once or twice a day just for fun.
You boys have fun boosting your barracks and barching tons of ♥♥♥♥ bases. I will pass on that.
You're right, what works for me may not for others. That's why I write up guides for others to follow which give tips on what else people can do ( look in my sig )
My advice for you;
- Check my sig for league farming tips.
Miniballs
- Use 16-20 loons only, this is a 32-40 min build time, but, it will both get you more storages than barch/bam/archers, whilst gaining you the loot bonus of M3.
- Getting the win is difficult at first, this is why you practice. Practice makes perfect after all. Surely you had to practice to barch/giant raid/gowipe/all drags/etc etc. If it gets you more loot I don't see how taking a week or two to get comfortable with loonions is not a viable option.
- No need for spells or heroes when looning, once you have practiced enough, trust me you will only use 1 spell max a raid, and heroes only used to pick off the last 1-10%.
- Failing all that.. Back to barch I suppose. I firmly believe anyone can drop 3-4 balloons on archer towers, then spread minions around a base, then use what's left to grab storages. If you can't then I am sorry. I guess I cannot help you anymore.
This is the worst game I've ever played. Wasting time by hitting the next button many times. No profit enough to make cause the next button. It takes thousands years to make your village become max everything. That's the aim of this game.
I remember when I was playing Cafe World by Zynga. Need for days to make a dish. But they are very professional, when some of the complaints came from users, they act very quickly and fix everything.
I stop playing Clash of Clans, only log on just take gold/elixir/de from collectors and log off again. And...I also stop buying gems.
PS : If you involve money and take a profit in a game, you should responsible of your services
Whether or not people are exaggerating it, there is a problem with this game that is beginning to alarm me. Say what you want, but there is an overwhelming amount of people who are clearly not enjoying the game as much as they used to, as a result of how much of an all out grind it is to put together a good raiding session; whether boosted, or not. One can argue that the only people that are capable of carrying good loot, are too smart to leave their storages full, and will usually have a plan to empty them before logging off. Combine that with inactive bases being pushed back, and what do you have left in your search? Do casual players ever have more than a million resources in their storages? I seriously doubt it. I have been pushing to masters this weekend, and I started the push while I was floating around 1800-1850 on Friday. I am currently at 2520 and throughout my entire push, I can count on one hand, how many 200k bases I found on the way to C1. I was just met with a plethora of 75k 60k 200 bases from G1 all the way to Crystal 1. If I was to run in to a base with great loot, yup, you guessed it; th10 lvl 3 infernos. I'm a mid th9. Even with loonion+ hound, what can I possibly take from that base? Not to mention, I'd lose the damn raid as well. The game has plateaued to the point where I am losing interest in it. To all the people finding fantastic loot everyday, I'm happy for you. I'm speaking on behalf of my experience, and everyone else who is experiencing the same thing I am.
Surely, if the game was that bad, you wouldnt be logging on to collect, you'd have deleted it. Its what both amuses and frustrates me about the loot complaints, the only reason people complain is that they love/are so addicted to clash they cant give it up. Most games never get to a point where the economy is the biggest issue, because there is a glaring fault somewhere else so people dont become as hooked.
As to your last point though, i whole heartedly agree, anyone raking in that much cash should have an enormous customer service team, cant pretend to still be a high flying, low maintenance startup when making billions.
It frustrates us to see the game is being destroyed by a company that deliberately ignores the issues of such a large group of players.
And even though we hate the game right now, we continue playing it because we are already too addicted to stop playing or just hope they finally actually DO something about it instead of "monitoring" it (which is just another word for saying "we don't care" about your opinion.)
i understand what you are saying. I have watched farming guides on all arch or miniball from some nice youtubers (witelightningHWD). I have used some of your tips when farming in c1 today and also to get there in the first place.
while I agree that farming in c1 is effective, thing is that the loot is extremely inconsistent now. Your loot guide would have worked very well around 1 mth ago and around the time of your post. However, many things have changed in c1 since.
1. Snipes are very rare to find now (once every 15 mins or so)
2. Th7/8 are almost never seen (once every 20 minutes or so)
3. Inactives are very rare
4. Lack of exposed storages (most bases are preemie th10 with gold walls and offering little)
5. There are not many bases that are easy to barch/ all arch on. Some are easier than others but their defences are rather concentrated and I usually have to use heroes/lightning/cc to get the 50%, even then it was still very clutch.
maybe I have to be more confident in my attack and go for unfamiliar bases for practise. I am just afraid of loosing as 1 Loss sets me back a lot considering how difficult the bases are. I'm only a th9 with a bk10 and an aq8 so my heroes are quite weak for where I'm farming which doesn't do me any favours.
As for loonion, I have been wanting to try them out for farming for quite some time as they are really good but the elixir cost and the training time is holding me back. Getting to m2 is also really difficult since I'm not very confident in my attack and since there aren't many easy bases for me to attack it will take some time to get there,
maintaining a high trophy count is also really difficult since you practically have to win every raid which I won't be able to do since I'm practising as a th9 with rather crappy heros. Considering loonions take 40 minutes to train, it may not be very time efficient either considering I need to win cups to push quickly, I could try boosting raxs but I don't have money to spend :(
i respect that you and other high level farmers are having success with loonions but the majority of players aren't. If they were, they would have already gone to champs but they have not as loot is still good for you.
the thing is many peeps still farm at lower leagues since high league play is stressful and requires session playing and constant boosting which many peeps can't afford to do. The inconsistency of loot is not helping matters either.
sorry for the rant and I appreciate your help.
You have been saying this since the December update...That's 9 months.
And with every update, the loot has become worse and worse.
"We are monitoring the situation"
"We are keeping a close eye on the economy"
"We are looking into it"
How much time does it need?
Think we have enough patience already...
Dont make me dig up exact quotes, they are there somewhere. We have to remember, SC never really envisaged intensive farming. Its not how they intended the game to be played.
Recently my clan has had a few people join that knew each other from old disbanded clans, all with a similar play style. They hang around in masters, have medium th10s, attack between once and 5 times a day, using whatever troop comps amuse them. Obviously they get some loot, but not enough to hammer out max level upgrades constantly, and if theres something they want enough, they will gem it.
These are the people playing the game as SC imagined. Its why they introduced leagues and bonus, to attempt to make players more competative and stay in 🏆 ranges appropriate to level. We know that its not the fastest way to progress, just as we know the current loot economy isnt sufficient to support intensive farming.
But when they analyse/monitor the loot for months on end, they will probably find it is perfectly adequate for what they intended.
To all the th 10's (and supercell employee's) that say they are finding good raids, this post will be painful.
the facts are simple, clashers are using there loot to build walls and little else. Which means you need a more expensive army to breach those walls. We all know that, the best defence is no loot in the base- so build more walls....
with the inactive accounts gone (haven't seen one since the patch/upgrade) a major source of loot for upgrades is gone.
eventually the loot will return as walls max out, but you can't breach those maxed walls with barbs and archers, you need more expensive troops, meaning your return on each raid is less.
The solution is simple, make a huge loot bonus for 3 starring a base- perhaps doubling or tripling the loot taken, a little less for 2 star, and nothing for a single star (bite me town hall snipers). This would allow clashers to go into battle with full armies, instead of the boring old barch.
This is will keep us clashing, even with lower loot in the base.
I'm sorry, but if this game wasn't intended to be a grind fest to upgrade high level buildings, then how in the world do you propose they thought people would get it done? Your argument is that SC made a game that is only playable until th7 and then from there, only the use of gems will get you upgrades? I suppose their target audience with this business plan model is billionaires or morons with cash from mommy and daddy.
I don't even understand why they want to bury those inactives so far back. Ain't our fault they quit. Maybe they quit because they :
A: Lost interest because of the ridiculous amount of time needed to complete an upgrade under this new loot system
or
B: Were not progressing anywhere
Why don't they just stuff louds more loot in that th and ditch the free shield for 1 star, problem fixed, there is plenty of loot to get you just need to have the time to find it fast enough it takes minutes before a farming th outside gets taken out, imo thats the biggest problem with the loot system
I don't get why so many TH8 are giving a speech as is he is representing every farmer that loot is so good, getting 200k elixir per raid bla bla bla....Noob TH8, I'm here to tell you, upgrade your TH to 10 otherwise 9. And post your atk log everyday to prove that you can find minimum 200k to 300k elixir in your every raid. I used to have 300k elixir almost every raid when i was in TH8, and my elixir is almost full all the time during TH8, that said. I am not getting enough elixir and in fact, i have maxed almost all my DE troops but my elixir troops is stopped ever since the lava update. Once again, don't represent and criticize everyone here that complains about bad loot, because you are just a noob TH8. And remember, get your TH to 9 or 10 and show us your atk log if you want to challenge me.
So incredibly sick of spending 300k nexting to ultimately give up and log off. It isn't fun anymore, and the worst part is Supercell doesn't care. They shove all of us into this thread so they don't have to deal with us, and move on with their day.
The only reason I'm still playing is because I've spent a year building up a great clan as a leader and can't bear to let it all go!! Otherwise I would have quit.
Of course CoC still has the potential to return to being a great game that is lots of fun to play, but it needs a fix and it needs it fast!
Didnt say loot was good for a second. Im grinding it out barching in m2, making the best of a bad situation.
What im saying is, i dont see a fix coming. Either by design, or unforeseen circumstance, this is what loot has slowly become. There are people out there making loot at high town hall levels, mainly i would assume, like myself, from pure persistence.
So, im certainly not saying: 'collectors in a corner thanks', i see few options.
Grind it out, using league bonus to make up for poor-average loot.
Go inactive and wait for a magic wand, or just plain quit. I dont want anyone to quit, but there really seems little point in complaining about it, they arent listening. Question is, how much do you want to upgrade that base? If its enough, youll grind it. Just do it without boosts, itll probably make you feel a little better about it.
Just nexted for 35 mins, found 90k/180k base, decided to take that just so I could do something other than next.
Great game.
Loot is way worse than yesterday, wow...
It's like Instagram and Facebook monetising their large customer base by putting in ads. I think there's no reversal or changes because many players are actually paying (more) for the game after this update.
The solution is to leave your TH outside. The more people leave THs outside, the easier its for people to gain resources using league bonuses.
This thread becomes like Clash.
Next, next, next, next ....
What are we doing? Trying to convince SC? Who are we talking to?
I wonder how long it is going to take SC to do something or tell us something relevant.
Next, next, next ....
Disappearing in the black hole off the forum and the game.
Hi don't be so nevative, theres an easy solution to make them change loot, just send a mail to apple with your complains about coc, you'll get plenty of money back, maybe theyll listen eventually to your complains if enough people do it :)
Many in our clan complaind when king got nerfed and got money back, all they bought before the update, just saying if its such a money industry, then hit where it hurts
There is always going to be someone that finds some loot but loot across the board loot is in the tank. The part of your statement I really don't agree with is "If you want it enough, go get it", simply not true. I rarely boost but I did twice this weekend and spent the majority of both boosts nexting.
I dont barrack boost, that being one of the biggest reasons, i dont want to tick that timer away while nexting. Loot is poo, no debate. But being as i genuinely believe they arent going to do anything about it, what i meant by go get it is, grind it out with weight of attacks.
the loot has been INCREDIBLE today!
Barchings from a weak as just entered in the town 8 came down from golden 2 to silver 1 as many peoples were attacking me and not getting enough loot and more for nexting . I collected 1m from morning and just raided by the enemy taking away my 200k. Now what should i do as barchers do not give so many loot and most were collector raid not inside. I have many troops 4star but unable to use as there is no loot. Sc should do something now atleast stop wall with purple. Now what should i do ?. Spend my 5 hours to collect million or just quit the game with all my defenses at side and storage at another. Or just wait the morning when there is ! mark suddenly game become fun than nexting and barching. Name:Shark Clan: India red bulls Th 8
Over a month and still it drags on.......
https://www.concur.co.uk/blog/wp-con...it-625x290.jpg
I have a th 9 and im in gold two and one a lot and there is plenty of loot. Not as good as before but I still make plenty. There's not really a loot issue its just that more people are spending both gold and elixir on walls which makes it seem like there is.
Guys do you know if I can get a refund in play store or has any of you actually successfully done so? I spent a good amount but the product is garbage now and I am disappointed. The game is just unplayable now and I put money into the game thinking about it as a long term investment in enjoyment. Starting to think I might get my lawyer involved if play store screws me.
Next Next Next Next.....
Barb Barb Barb Barb......
It is boring game..
How about an easy fix for starters. A lot of people want more loot.
Read the thread idea. This is a more viable permanent solution to our Loot search problems. Please comment on that thread if you are in favor of more loot.
An incentive for everyone in the game to max out their collectors, mines, and drills. Imagine if we could add even just 1 TRILLION of loot worldwide per week, how that would help you and everybody playing. If I told you all it took was everyone maxing out their existing collectors, mines, and drills, wouldn't it be good to give everyone in the world an incentive to do that.
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...and-Gold-Mines
isn't the loot after league restart worst?
This will be the first season in almost 2 years that i won't use an attack. Just collecting resources, soooo much fun:rolleyes:
Sat the game out for a week. Went to raid yesterday and spent 118000 in gold before I found anything worth raiding!!!!!!!!!!! Didn't make that up for the raid. Lost money on gold but gained about 15000 in elixir! Good Job SuperCell!! You have fd this game up!!!!!!! :mad: Will try again in 2 weeks this time!!!! Fix the loot problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
the loot has been phenomenal. I'd suggest gold 1!
Not all that say loot is good are trolls, but all trolls say loot is good :rolleyes:
oh look a fan of mine!
I'm still going to assert that there is not only no loot problem, but loot is good.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting
different results."
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I am a th9 i am from a clan called BLAZING INFERNO and my username is jon, i used to find soo much loot in crystal 2-3 and now i can't find any loot at all. about a week ago i was getting about 250k+ each in resources and now i can't find anything after spending 200k+ gold just for searching and not finding anything. please someone help me and tell me what to do in order to help me find more loot.
should i drop leagues or stay in crystal?
Here is a good indication of bad loot: Someone did a full giant army dump with both heroes and 3 spells on my base just to get 100k gold and 100k elixer and 0 de (didn't have any). Guy had probably nexted for 10 mins before saying $#%& it and dumped his army on my base.
lol man up? none of the bases up here have any loot to steal lol. haven't seen collector loot in a while.
Hi All,
So the new season started today, and all the loot that has been in Silver League II is gone!
Any idea what league has the best loot as of today, October 13, 2014?
Thanks!