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Originally Posted by RAppel
with all the loot penalties th10 faces, it would be ideal to get bigger share of loot attacking another th10..that would be ideal & many will stop preying on lower th if this happens..but as of now its not worth attacking a th10 with those infernos buzzing unless its an extraordinary loot.. this is the simplest & best solution for a th10..plus SC will benefit more cause the fancy armies will come into action...
I'm th10 in m1 and i need 200k and more for surching lot but there is nothing! This is very frustrating and on the other side the fighting me for 20k lot with king and queen lv40 :confused:
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Originally Posted by RAppel
the unfortunate thing is everyone's entitled to whine...
makes the picture very cloudy though.
TH9's have less of an issue as getting to TH8 storages isn't a problem but TH10's cannot go for these as the loot penalty is very high thus making the raid pointless from a profit perspective.
TH10's need a stronger (more expensive) army to take out the storages of a th9 but th9's can get to th8 with barch.
Also my earlier comment will always ring true as the economy (without league bonuses and war loot) was only designed for th8's (the highest town hall when the game was released)
TH9 was introduced and didnt affect it too much but when th10 came along there just wasnt enough loot to go round... (insert loot penalty here)
What can supercell do?
lots of things... chiefly changing the search formula to give a small percentage more inactives but this is only a boost not the fix.
we need higher league bonuses, more loot for a war win and if they really want to fix the economy add a level to mines and pumps and seriously look into the loot penalty.
(Just so you know what it is...)
Town Hall Level Difference Percentage of Loot Available 0 100% 1 90% 2 50% 3 25% 4 or more 5%
they want to protect the lower th's though so that wont change.
Why on earth do u need 200k to search in M1, every other base if offering 200k+ gold and plenty are offering 400k?Quote:
Originally Posted by temi69
The most bases offers me lot <100k
the armee cost with spells >400
i'm happy when i found a base where i clan get >150k
3 stars to a th10 is not possible for me
Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by temi69
I farm in M1/M2 using 20 loons 70 minis and a CC of loons or minis. I use 1 or 0 spells. Im only interested in the loot and getting 50%.
You sound like you are building a trophy based army.
Maybe drop down a bit and use a cheaper army.
Not to deny you your fun, if thats the army you want to build and wreck people, go for it. But, its never going to turn a profit, wouldnt months ago when loot wasnt so bad.
If you are raiding for 🏆s or fun, build what you want, but if youre trying to get upgrades fast you need something more cost effective.
Its unreasonable to expect to make a profit on a 400k army. You cant 3* a th10 (99% of the time), so pretty unlikely to get to all 4 storages, holding 400k for a break even.
When i try to fight with 20 loons and 70minis I dont win any fight - i'm not able to fight with loons ;)
but i will try it again :cool:
the problem will be the same 200 klicks for a good fight....
Try and search some guides on how to loon or barch if you find looning frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by temi69
Youtube is full of guides. Loonatics is worth a visit to see how they use loons.
http://loonion.com/loonatix-video-1-...lash-of-clans/
Good luck.
Realy profit is not the problem - i know that this is not possible when i make troops >400k but it must be possible to find bases with lot >200k and at this time i didn't find some one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Superfinch30
i tried to get 3200 trophys but i'm not able to to this - ok this is my problem
This my friend is a huge part of the current problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superfinch30
it shouldnt be unreasonable.
why make the troops available if they are all about a loss in terms of loot?
id love to make my pekka army all the time but with spells its a lot more than 400K.
If Supercell continue to make defenses stronger then its only natural that we need a more expensive army to take the resources.
So is the choice really one of 2 options?
1. use barch to farm - or loonion
2. use the bigger army for trophies.
bearing in mind that the bigger army cannot be sustainable with the loot the way it is.
Loot has been acceptable so far...5 raids in a row that were all good enough. One was excellent - 600k Gold, 450k Elixir, 4.5k DE.
It has been a very long time since I was able to string 5 raids together like this without wanting to tear my hair out...I'm not saying loot is back to normal...I am very aware of how isolated raids can lull you into a false sense of security - but to offer that balanced view, raids so far have been good.
Will post in the afternoon if this continues...
Perhaps they are listening Carlito? :)
Loot varies day to day, despite sitting in the same league and trophy range - which I firmly believe has little bearing on loot. I say that because players are going up and down all the time, so it stands to reason. I can only speak from my own experience, we all have a different one. But I find the loot is better when you play to the highest level you can. I've tried dipping low and you don't generally find things improve.
It's frustrating when your camp has a 50k elixir army and all you are offered is a 3k loot reward (plus whatever your league reward is for a win). However, the game is meant to be a challenge, if it wasn't nobody would bother playing it. There are some issues which need to be looked at, such as the use of elixir on walls. This severely hampers TH9 and 10 players, and no, I'm not one of them yet. But I know I no longer sit with huge amounts of elixir for someone to steal. Also, I have no doubt there are bots out there, and they are impacting the game for the average player.
In trying to be balanced about this issue, I think we should also consider the impact of this and other Clash websites. Sure it's great for the beginner when the expert posts his "undefeatable" base layout. But what happens? The beginner copies it and over time you end up with a whole Clash community of undefeatable bases. Slightly exaggerated maybe, but I am seeing more and more familiar bases that have been posted on here. I know you can learn the layout and ways to attack them, but I'd prefer players to use their own noggin instead of just relying on others.
Anyway, personally I'm not struggling to any large degree. I am getting my fair share of good and bad loot days. To be honest if it wasn't mixed then I'd soon quit. If it was always bad I would never be able to upgrade anything, making it pointless to play. If it was always good, I'd be done with upgrades in a couple of months and again would move on to play something else.
Had my say, happy Clashing folks.
last raid was also good. 200k+ storage raid - got 3 out of 4 of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
Maybe they are listening...or maybe more people are playing less and im seeing their bases as a result...I think SC need maintenance to actually change something so any changes we experience in the absence of that are as a result of the natural ebb and flow of the game - perhaps (???)
Or, I suppose I may be playing on a juicy server...still not confirmed but I think that the raids you see are limited to the server you are playing on - some have more active players on, some less - and with that, more loot and collector raids....just a theory...
But yeah, so far loot is fine. I have not had to skip for more than 10 mins or so and I am not making a net loss on the raid as a result.
The loot we are seeing today is likely a result of those that put the game down over the past couple days out of frustration...don't believe or fool yourself that this issue is resolved yet. It will get resolved but i for one think it will require SC to do a maintenance break or update... I could be wrong on that but either way i hope that they act soon and i trust that they will.
in the interim, as players try to protect their loot i a, catching a lot of TH snipes simply because of the loot bonus. i am not happy that i have been reduced to this but it is the fastest way i can make any loot right now. I am a level 127 max TH10 except for walls and my heroes. I dropped from M1 to C2? Went make to M2 and dropped again. There is no loot in between those levels. Yes periodically karma is on my side and by dumb luck of "The Next" i might find a 200k each trailer park to attack. Rarely now a data though.
As i battle today i find myself singing in my head an old Jimmy Buffett song, A Pirates Look at 40...specially the line " Yes I am a pirate, 200 years to late the cannons don't thunder, there is nothing to PLUNDER..."
SC...listen to your fans of the game...lets fix this matter and move on...
I don't think so... yet. The current loot is very inconsistent, one day it its awesome and the next day it's completely dry. To confirm the loot is good it has to be satisfy us for a couple of consecutive weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
Loot is still awful. Have builders waiting just to be able to upgrade something! TH9 level 89 in gold I. Moving back to my playstation now! Loved the game but cannot progress! Going to take a break and come back in a month! Have fun with my base raiders!!!!
Agree...Loot is still S***...!!! Lose 166.862 gold only for stupid searching...This game unplayable...If there is a negative star on App Store, I swear, I will be the one who choose it...Suck...!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by 3zzz
I find my gold is slowly going up but elix.
SC sucked the life blood out of the game.
Next...
The 'challenge' is in the game play itself. Nobody is complaining that defenses are OP, and it's impossible to win. That said, nobody is bored with the game because it's too easy...
This game SHOULD create a challenge the higher you progress, as you face tougher and tougher bases. THAT is the challenge.
But instead, the game has become a challenge (more of a struggle) to simply get enough loot to SURVIVE. by survive, I mean to be able to acquire enough loot to build strong enough attacks for your level, and obtain enough resources to continue your progression in the game.
In the game's current state, this ideal scenario is so far out of balance that it has spawned well over 6000 posts, and close to 650 pages of threads in the forums.
Supercell has managed to destroy the 'challenge' for higher level players, and turned it into a struggle. Most people enjoy a good challenge. But nobody wants to struggle and look back and see how little they progressed for expending so much effort.
As such, a lot of ppl are leaving the game now. People are starting to leave my clan, and many others are not nearly as active lately.
Such a a shame that SC ignores this and is too stubborn to admit that they messed up, and go fix what they broke (namely the lix for walls update, and the awful 10% loot system).
I will never sink another dime into an SC product given their handling of this situation. Unless they miraculously change course, admit they messed up, and put in a magical fix in the VERY near future.
Loot is really bad for me in this period, im bored of wasting money boosting my rax and burning my gold and boosting time to press "next"... I think im gonna leave this game and sell my ACC after months of hardcore farming.. But thats really getting crazy
The loot has been amazing these days. :)
This game is just becoming SOOOOOOOOO boring and frustrating... I have just been spending 200k nexting, finally attacked an 80k as I was bored nexting, disconnected and then got attacked... 100k stolen + another 100k to reload traps !!!!
Another bad day for me. Once you are TH10, then you are becaming a masochist of sadist SC. Supercell is just punishing us. Thank you for not doing anything SC.
I am level 145, th10.
I see quite a lot of th9 that offer 280k gold, even 320k gold, but i have to skip most of them because they don't have much elixir. My farming army costs 135k elixir, so i will lose lots of elixir if i attack those th9.
I actually reached a point that i had 6 million gold but 20k elixir and i had to stop raiding because i couldn't train troops.
I just want to play my game, but i wont be able to play much when i can gain any elixir. :(
What are you running 30 loons or something? Try using a cheaper army or moving up the leagues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aethelbeorne
I get a 90k bonus in M2 and that covers the costs of my 20 loons.
But if you really want to farm elixer you should be using a cheap army, bam or barch.
80 archers, 40 barbs, 16 giants (in case i need to break strong base), 12 wall breakers (i dont usually use all of them), and 4 wizards.Quote:
Originally Posted by VincentVegas
i usually farm elixir for 3 days and then farm de when i have more elixir. Gold is never a problem. :/
Problem is not losing too much elixir or trying to gain elixir.
The look is AMAZING at Gold I, I'm not sure why there are so many complainers.
Are you a TH8/7?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
Because you are probably not TH10 !!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
Well said!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jcman
My main account is TH 10, and while there are some droughts at times, by and large the loot is sufficient. Actually, the loot has been phenomenal in the last couple of nights!
Gives me the impression I'm on global chat with all those people having TH6 but a first account TH10 ;-) lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
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Originally Posted by bbdoc
Dont waste your oxygen mate... he is the toad of trolls :)
quite funny that he continues to lie his way round the forum and proves nothing.
Just watch him do it again and prepare for a funny :)
I can find lots of gold and de, around 6 million gold a day and average 30k de a day. Problem is i cant gain elixir through raiding others, so the main problem is that i can't raid too much as i will run out of elixir. But the situation is slightly better for the past two days. Manage to gain 2 million elixir. Just hope that it will improve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
I'm still going to assert that there is NO issue with loot. People just love to complain. I think SC is doing a fantastic job. :)
You've already been caught in a big fat lie on another thread you started. Surrrrrreeeeee you've had a TH10 main all this time and you just now decide to mention it :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
th6?Quote:
Originally Posted by xizeta
10char...
I am almost maxed at TH8 with just a few troop upgrades to complete. Farming has become so tedious, with such little reward, that I am mothballing my base in what has now become a quiet clan. The game is no longer challenging or fun, loot is so scarce it is hard to make even a little progress and a TH upgrade would be stupid while this situation lasts. For now, I am not kissing goodbye to the money I have spent over the last few months, nor to the social side of the game which has been an investment as well. I will look in every day to see how the guys are doing and to check out my base, but that is it from now on. I am not gemming to fill the gap as I feel the situation has arisen through either Supercell's greed or incompetence. If things don't improve I will be gone, perhaps there are just too many players nowadays swamping Supercell's network and this is a way of weeding them down.....
Just wanted to try to help some TH10s having troubles with loot, for past 2 days i have been trying out barching at M2 and it's been going pretty well. Boosting 2 barracks and heroes. Here are some of my raids from todays session. Remember there is a 90k/90k/600 loot bonus :)
http://epvpimg.com/2oZjc.png
http://epvpimg.com/TsxTg.png
http://epvpimg.com/vtkUd.png
http://epvpimg.com/nSSxd.png
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Originally Posted by bbdoc
Exactly...
If you're going to say it's amazing, at least tell us your TH level.
My IGN is Aethelbeorn, and my clan is 骑着蚂蚁追大象，which means Chasing Elephants While Riding On The Back Of Ants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
May I know which clan is your main acc in?
Just finished a 800K raid on my TH10, and found several 200K-400K just before that. The loot has been mighty fine the last couple of days. SC should start serving some cheese with all the whining that happens here.
I stopped playing now. Thank you Supercell for curing my addiction!
The good part of the game to become unplayable is that we now can get rid of this stupid game and spend our life in things that we really like and enjoy doing.
[QUOTE=Phreak;2985570]Just wanted to try to help some TH10s having troubles with loot, for past 2 days i have been trying out barching at M2 and it's been going pretty well. Boosting 2 barracks and heroes. Here are some of my raids from todays session. Remember there is a 90k/90k/600 loot bonus :))
A fine example of how the loot is fine.
It isn't the awful state of economics in this game at Th10 that bugs me the most. Nor is it the fact that SC have taken a fun raiding game and turned it into a dull chore. It isn't that so many players at TH7 and 8 are having a great time finding bases with 350k easy takes (and my clan replays demonstrate this daily).
The real sadness is that SC just don't care less what we think on this forum. They (very occasionally) pipe up with something they think we will like, but more often than not, all of our thoughts are ignored. This huge post thread will be ignored. It will make no difference at all.
So, who gives a toss? I don't, I have given up caring. I will play from time to time, have a few clan wars, help buddies progress with max troops, offer suggestions on attack strategy and generally dip in and out as I feel.
What I absolutely will not be doing, ever again, is buying gems. I will collect from mines and upgrade as the fancy takes me. I will use tree gems for the cheap boost 'events' and I will use up SC servers while doing so. If the game was better and more fun, I would buy gems. It isn't, so I won't.
I have no further issue, it has become a completely free game, so I don't care how much SC mucks it up, they will never get a penny from me, in this, Hay Day or Boom Beach (which I have enjoyed ignoring since it came out).
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Originally Posted by Xizeta
Screenshots or you will be forever known as a liar :)
oh right you already refused to do that a few pages back.... go back to school kid :o
Coathanger? Is that you? And dude, seriously, you got busted yesterday on your thread claiming a th9 hit you for a huge loss, when in fact, it was a th8. Your credibility is out the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
Omg, shut up please... You are just a noobish TH7 and you don't know how the game works. You don't even know how to quote in the forums lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
Here is where you were exposed as a phony. Not a troll; Trolls are clever and funny. You are actually really a phony. Enjoy, peepsQuote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ot-complainers
This guy is just trying to get under your skin. Go back to global if you want to be annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
You people are jealous, I understand.
Please continue to live in denial.
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Originally Posted by Xizeta
Lol I'm curious as to what you're getting out of this.I mean seriously, you've been exposed as a phony, dude.
It's ok, we will forgive you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
Bwahahahahaha what a liar. Kids nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
So you do this by falsifying information and distorting facts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Chubbymidget627
Well played...Well played indeed.
BTW the forum has an ignore feature.
He's been added to mine :)
♥♥♥♥ I've suddenly lost the urge to further continue this conversation. You're sad, honestly. Have a nice life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
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Originally Posted by Xizeta
Glad you found your purpose in life.
thanks for your opinion, im glad you are finding loot with your TH7.
enjoy it and be sure to max your base before you go to TH8.
If you have any other opinions on the loot situation or indeed a solution to the loot issues experienced by others, please do post it here.
otherwise, please start a new thread in the relevant section.
PS its always helpful to back up your words with facts. - you will learn this as you become an adult too so better start now. Always good to be prepared :)
banked another 500k, a powerful affirmation that the loot is good.
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Originally Posted by Biz
Helpful information thank you... but you will miss the fun :P
I'm over the little kids in the game tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
Played too long and I'm too old lol ;)
May i asked you again: what clan is your main acc in and what is the IGN?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
You are wasting your time. He has provided nothing but lies and has already been called out for it. He simply wishes to stir up the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aethelbeorne
I know. I just love asking him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chubbymidget627
sure... i did banked 500k of each ressources too yesterday.... boosting all four barrack for 2 hrs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
... :(
i lost the count... where is my last post in that thread? i think i might have to read 127 pages
Loot is terrible most days in master.
i find myself jumping between crystal and master to get decent loot.
Just hate keep pressing NEXT.....
So am I the only person here who can no longer find decent loot these past few weeks? I'm th10 moving back and forth from gold 1 to crystal 1 to find a nice spot but got pretty much the same. The loot is less than 50k/50k most of the time, lucky to get any higher. Almost every raid is a net loss. I can't even make up half the elixir I spent on my army and I'm already sticking with cheaper stuff, not to mention the gold I spent nexting.
A few of my clan mates r experiencing the same issue with a consistent time frame as me, but I just wana throw this out here to get an idea if others r actually getting the same problem or do u guys see no change in farm at all? Every while I have my bad days and even bad weeks but never has it lasted so long and to such a degree, it's been 2 months already I think.
So, how goes your farming?
Not sure where you have been, but look at the top sticky of this forum. Your answers, or lack there of (from SC) are in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenSausage
Judging by the size of the one and only loot thread possibly not.....Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenSausage
Have you read it ?
Clash of Nexts... or Next of Clans?
That sticky doesn't really prove a whole lot to be honest. Just a few people spamming up the thread arguing back and forth. The amount of people in that thread that actually have loot issues are probably just too impatient to spend a few minutes searching.
FFS we are pushing nearly a month and not a single response. So so so bad.
SuperCell this is ridiculous, I have spent real money gemming my high level troops only for you to completely change the nature of the game to the point where it's very difficult to use them. If I had known you were going to make such a fundamental change to the game I would have never have spent that money on those gems. I feel a little ♥♥♥♥♥ed to be honest.
Also I cannot believe they haven't even acknowledged this. I don;t inderstand why they just can't say something either way rather than just completely ignoring their customers.
You're not the only one. If you browse the forum posts over the past 3 weeks, you will notice a lot of people are saying the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenSausage
I have submitted an accurate review on the App store of how the game is currently playing re the loot situation. Suggest it is one way we can get heard and bring pressure to have sensible farming regime restored.
I will admit the loot was pretty poor after the update. The last few days have been great. I am able to average about 1.2M gold or elixir per hour with 1 barracks on boost. Currently farming the gold leagues. Time of day dictates whether I am hitting storages or finding collector raids. I have been counting my nexts the last few days. I am able to find a 200/200 in under 20 nexts most of the time on a base I can get it from. I will not hit a base if its under 100/100 and thats only after I hit about 60 nexts ill be willing to hit that low. I use a giant,arch,wb,barb army with spells so that I can hit
juicy storage hits, or just collectors. Seems collector raids are more prevalent at night after 8pm.
But for me the loot has been about the same as ever as a th9. I have built all 74 of my lego walls after the update. I only used elixer on about 1/3 of them. Im going to continue to work my walls and eventually dark barracks for a while
until I go to th10. I know my clan mates complained about th10 loot long before the update.
Yes you are the only one that has noticed this. Everyone else is swimming in elixir right now. In fact, I have so much purple juice that I literally showered in it this morning and grinned as the excess ran down my drain.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenSausage
Highly unfortunate that this will have little effect for 2 reasons...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sticksman
1 negative reviews seem to be at the back of the app stores review section
2 they seem (i believe) to clear the reviews after every update...
Apple aren't idiots and if a game is making them money they will do what ever it takes to show the game in the best possible light...
Just look now for yourself.
I'm all about propaganda me :)
Yes and the sarcasm dripped right off this :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnusMaximus
Another day, another 7x level 9 walls in 2 hour boost :)
http://i.imgur.com/CC01Y1D.jpg
The nexting is killing me! I'm not a teenager but an older player who doesn't have the time to click next 150 times in order to find a profitable match. I'm lv96/th9 as of two months ago.
what has happened to this game? I like to do a mix of attacks (balloon/min, giant/wiz and barch). The first two for dark and the last for the gold and elixir I need to upgrade. I used to be able to get an inactive base within 20-30 clicks. It is now taking me so long that my entire barch army has completed training before I am done finding a base with the last one (at least I don't have to gem my barrack anymore).
I don't have the time to sit and click next for 20-30 minutes. I used to do the occassional raid on my breaks at work or lunch time. That is all out and I hardly feel like spending my evening hours clicking that button either. Plus I spend so much gold on next that it is hardly profitable anyway. (I don't raid unless it is 200k of each)
I am already playing significantly less and that's sad because I did enjoy this game as a short diversion (raiding here and there throughout the day with the occassional 'raiding party' with boosted barracks to fill my storages. But clash of next isn't quite as fun as clash of clans. When you add in the extra I need to raise to train armies for war attacks (because win or lose the bonus doesn't begin to cover expenses) it is turning into something that takes way too much time.
A th9 spending money and finding loot with barch! Fantastic... Problem solved!Quote:
Originally Posted by CeePee
Not dissing your achievement mate, well done!
I'm glad youre finding loot but as a th10 i have several problems with this...
1 youre spending money.
2 youre using the same army over and over using nothing but the spam button
3 youre only making profit cause your using such a cheap army...
We cant all do that or the situation would be worse :(
Today loot was good for me in the very early morning eastern time.
Th9 here, been trying everything from gold 3 to crystal 1 for a few weeks and nothing. Finally had a good day.
Still, I think putting dead bases for everyone to barch and gob is not that fun either. SC should come up with a better way to reward attacks thru better league bonuses, tweaks in the penalty system or even new content to get players to attack better bases or push more without preying so much on weaker ths.
Clash of Nexts .. a game where you cant play .. unless clicking next forever is fun to you .
Broke a shield cause i miss raiding too much...
Spent 250k searching, found 4 bases with more than 140k and eventually took one for 203k...
Wrote down the gold figures going through the bases and it really is shocking... 2300 trophies.
Well tomorrow is Friday... Likely will hear nothing from supercell except maybe on facebook telling me to have a 'clashing weekend'!!! well supercell i wont... It will be a collecting and shield riding weekend :'(
Well the thing is, rather than whining about a problem I'll find a solution and come out on top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
Aka by spending money constantly just to play. I'm sorry but if I HAVE to pay to even play this game I'm done. If I'm paying to play a game then zero wait time is the cost on their part. And the value of gems is disproportionate. I have tons of games I paid for that I'd rather llay as opposed to paying to stare at a screen doing nothing for that long. Investment/reward ratio is too small for thks game. I'll throw them $20 here and there if I'm enjoying myself ... problem is that I'm not.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeePee
Good things about this game: finding a big score in a raid, winning a war attack, winning a war, designing a base, watching defense replays from the base you designed, upgrading defenses and watching the upgrades make a difference in a defense.
Not enough to do 3/7 things kind of makes it boring. Next repeatedly has no enjoyment value. Actually it does. Negative enjoyment value
Isn't the point of farming to use a cheap army, that you can build quickly. Then raid the bases that you can use that army to harvest resources? You can hate on barch, bam, all archers, baloon/minion, giants and any combination of things. But those armies are made because they are fast and effective at harvesting loot. Use your elaborate high level troops that take forever to train and are really expensive in the clan wars. A place where you can show your skills.
In my opinion the nexting is not any better or worse than it always has been. It usually takes 20-50 or more to find a good base to hit with alot of loot. I've had them come up first time, in 10 times, but at times it can take a while. If you are nexting to no end, you should move up or down in trophies to find more bases that are upgrading and have loot, or dead bases that are not plagued by loot penalty. Or simply put the device down and try again when there are less people on taking the good bases.
It used to be profitable to farm with loonion, or with an army that made use of troops other than barbs and archers, such as giants, wallbreakers, wizards, etc. Now the only way to make any sort of profit is to limit your use of troops exclusively to troops that were unlocked at TH1.Quote:
Originally Posted by ram979
Pressing the next button hundreds of times and grinding away by spamming tier 1 troops repeatedly does not make for a fun game and should not be the way the game was designed to play.
But your solution is boring, takes very little effort, shows you dont have any skill and is costing you money...Quote:
Originally Posted by CeePee
And if you think coming out on top on this game is using the basic troops and sitting in the kids league then cool, you've found what makes you happy...
This doesnt make me happy... Id prefer using the stronger troops and being in a much higher league but the bonus doesnt justify it and neither does the loot available...
Haven't even got to the situation of nexting in an attempt to cover the cost of that type of army :(
It doesn't work the way it is.
Supercell want us to punch in our own weight class but whats the point??
That is my point, I use giants/wb/archer/barb. That way I can do storage raids as well. I sometimes add wizards to the mix and go after bigger targets like more maxed th9's. But the cost gets out of farming range unless I am solely after dark. Plus the added wait time is a drawback for me as well if I am going to sit down and play for a couple hours. Baloon Minion works very well still, I mainly do not use it due to the cost of the minions. I am currently upgrading heros, and have only dark troops left in my lab.Quote:
Originally Posted by badfish1979
As for the nexting, as of this writing I am at 1710 cups. I will find a 200/200 raid in under 60 nexts. At least every other raid has been that way since I started counting nexts a few days ago. Chances are it will be a storage raid. There are very few collector raids that show up this time of the day. I will be using giants, wallbreakers, archers, and barbs, and my barb king. I will probably get most of the loot.
whatever league your at sorry brutha but loot has bin better for almost a week at 2900 so quit talking ♥♥♥♥ or you learn how to raid the bases you find in these so called higher leagues your atQuote:
Originally Posted by Keywal
Ok so 2 posts back I said I was going to raid. I hit next 13 times. Found a Th9 mid stage, with 236/214/421 offered. I sent in 12 giants, 8 wb, rest barb arch. I took 3 gold storage, most of the collectors, and 2 elixer storage, and all the DE. I finished out 209/152//421. I am not experiencing this loot problem or nexting problem.
"Cry babys" lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiNatale
Coming with flashing lights reading the word 'troll' would have been less obvious.
Its quite easy to profit with loonian in masters. The win bonus basically pays for your 16-20 loons.Quote:
Originally Posted by badfish1979
I agree with your overall points but when you make claims that are just incorrect it weakens your overall argument.
This guy needs to show 'proof' of 'amazing' loot. From what I have read he seems to be a troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xizeta
TH level and trophy range ? Probably a 7 or 8 collector raiding down in silver.