Same, I'm just on because of the social aspect of my clan.
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COME ON SUPERCELL, AT LEAST TELL US IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING OR LEAVE IT AS IS!
The silence from SC is deafening. 220 pages, so much feedback, some excellent suggestions and still we can't get some definitive answer on this issue.
I've had pretty decent loot finds as a TH9, crystal 3. Raid prob every 1-2 hours, next around 20-30 times. Hitting about 1/3 TH8 with decent loot(150k+gold), 1/3 TH9/10 with lots of loot(200k+gold) and 1/3 Abandoned bases(collector raids). Definitely better than right after the update
Yup!
I think the biggest issue is the amount of time we all spend pressing "next". This absolutely does NOT need to be a normal part of gameplay. For some reason, a decent proportion of the players are actually proud of the fact that they have the patience to sit around pressing "next" like it is a badge of honor.
It would be easy for SC to make simple modifications to speed up the "nexting" process.
dont be toxic swearing my ***
i finally lose my patience for this game
i want to F raid not F NEXT for 20minutes
really no hope anymore?
ask people to be patience again?
then POST here for how long or what way you guys find already!!
dont keep silence!!
enough of this discussion. loot is BAD! it is conclusion, it is summary. why need another 50000000009876543467pages to post exactly same thing
ppfffffftttttt
Small guide in my signature for anyone fed up with nexting long hours gaining nothing :)
If I may ask, what is your motive for all of your replies? It seems you're very biased, and can't seem to sympathize with anyone who reports a loot problem; Logical or not their post may be. It seems you have some sort of hidden agenda. Care to share your reasoning, or is this out of the question?
No matter how much you try, THERE IS JUST NO LOOT. I am a lvl 100 just a recent TH 10 so hope i kinda know what i am doing at this point. The raiding loot problems just seems to be getting worse everyday and I am not buying the idea that more players are now active, that just sounds like a bunch of Finnish baloney if you ask me.
Just did a 2 hour boosted barracks raiding spree. Ended up with less Elixir then I started and 300 K more gold...... 😡😡😡😡
I have said it in the past and would say it again, this is my all time low in this game as it is for many others per the posts I have been reading. Now every time I play it leaves me with a horrible feeling inside knowing hours of raiding got me nothing again weeks later. All the time, money and energy put into this game and now it all boils down to this.
I am disgusted, furious and truly mad that something that i once really enjoyed has come to this. Feels like it has been a massive waste of my time if I knew it was going to come down to this.
GIVE ME BACK THE 1 YEAR I WASTED ON THIS GAME OR KINDLY FIX YOUR NOW BROKEN GAME.
As most others here, I am here to complain about the loot situation, until about a week ago I didn't even know that this forum existed. I only looked as the Loot is so bad and wanted to see if others found the same, all my farming has been reduced to barching which is getting very boring very fast. I have in the past occasionally bought gems to to fast forward the game a bit but until the game becomes fun again I will not be spending another penny on this game, I hope others follow suit which will force supercell to do something about it. Recently I have only been logging on to collect from mines/collectors/drills, I hope this changes in the near future or I will be almost quitting the game and having a quick scan through this thread I am not the only one.
Welcome to the forums.
You may find it interesting that this thread is not actually the one and only loot thread. There was one before this that all loot threads were being merged into, but it got locked at 3,000 posts because it "got too big." If it follows the same trend, this current thread will be getting locked soon as well.
The previous loot thread can be found here:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ly-Loot-thread!!
I started playing this game less than a year ago and it has been a fun game. However, it's all about hitting the NEXT button now and it's no longer enjoyable. The loot system is absolutely BROKEN and clash is no longer a viable game to play. So fix the FUBAR (f*cked up beyond all recognition) loot system, so we can all enjoy the game again. Thanks...
7 millions of gold in 24 hours…and the same has happened in the last five days! I guess i've found the sweet spot!
Greetings from heaven:o
I give up.
No point raiding today. Even when i set my target at 80k - which is pathetic - I am unable to find a raid before skipping 80 times. Complete joke SC.
Not fun. Not what i call game...it just a chore and it is pathetic that you have not even attempted to address this. Yep, im angry...irrational as this is supposed to only be a game but still...forums are for venting so have some of that hot air...
Update came, loot became a complete joke and with it this game. 1 Gem boost came and it got back to normal for a few days. As many have feared since the boost ended game has reverted back to post update loot. Say what you want about supercell, they have done a brilliant job with this game. However, Im really surprised at their lack of response to this problem. Really its the core of the game. Im lvl 123, th10, nearly maxed, and have spend a significant amount of money speeding things along. But have really found myself becoming disinterested with the loot the way it is now. When youre simply pressing the next button constantly and spinning your wheels not really getting ahead this game gets old very fast. Its a shame
Today until now;
for 3 hours playing, starting with 2.100.000 gold. And now I have 1.876.000 gold.
Thank You Supercell.
Oh how the standards have changed. Before the loot system change in December if you only farmed 7 million gold in a day you'd be on this forum screaming at SuperCell that the loot was horrible. My daily average was 20 million when I could devote some decent time to the game (and keep in mind that was when boosting barracks wasn't an option beccause it was too expensive).
Now, people brag about a paltry 7 million per day.
But here are the questions?
1. What th are you?
1. How many times are you nexting before you find a good base?
2. How many hours of actual play time did it take you to farm that much gold?
3. Are you boosting barracks to get to that number?
4. What army are you using and at what trophy range?
It seems SuperCell's goal is to get rid of all of the farmers who actually know what good loot is and replace them with the new breed of people with low expecations, a very high tolerance for hitting the next button, and who are accustomed to being forced to boost barracks to progress.
cheap troops, league bonus
Stop complaining and be a part of a solution, cup hunt and1 star,, collect league bonus
Gold, dark just keeps adding up
elixir the higher you go the faster you collect it
Yeah, because that's how the game was meant to be played:
Mindlessly spamming only tier 1 troops that were unlocked at TH1 every raid to farm the league bonus. It's so easy you could train a bunny rabbit to do it for you!
There is no longer any need to upgrade or unlock any troops besides barbarians and archers. Stop wasting your time trying to use armies that require skill and strategy. Don't even think about using an army that costs more than 50k elixir!
This is the most fun and exciting way to play the game and never feels like an endless grind!
Be a part of the solution, people! Stop wasting your time giving feedback and get to work!
Because everyone can handle farming in crystal and masters league. Because everyone can find th snipes damn quickly up there.
because the league bonus is so good, let's forget the troop cost totally. because barching doesn't take elixir at all
and because you think with your knees, what you don't realize is that even is you get masters 3's league bonus and 1 star a base, that amount of loot per 20 mins minus the elixir totally gets you nowhere
Ohh now i get it, you want to cook max golem max pekka and spam that on some poor kids base and acctually profit with it aswell :rolleyes:
That doesn't work if you can't stay on for long periods of time. If you can only hop on once an hour to raid due to having any semblance of a real life then farming league bonuses is not a solution.
Even so....the rewards for grinding league bonuses are pathetic compared to what you should be able to farm (based on the game that SuperCell gave us before they decided bait and switch was a good business model).
I do agree that it's your best bet right now if you can stay on for extended periods of time....but doesn't that lend even more evidence that the game is broken? League bonus farming isn't fun....it's actually horrible. The fun part is when that battle ends and nice big fat loot numbers pop up on the screen.
Come on man...this is a ridiculous statement. What we want is to be able to build a decent army of loons or giants and be able to progress without hitting the next button 100+ times.
Is that really that much to ask of a company that makes gazillions of $$$ every day?
Ohh now I get it, you've never heard of using giants, or wallbreakers, or goblins, or wizards, etc. You've never heard of balloonion farming in higher leagues. You've only heard of spamming barbarians or archers. :rolleyes:
But since you didn't know, those armies used to be very profitable back in the good old days. Now the times have changed and the only way you can hope to make a profit is by grinding constantly, spamming tier 1 troops. The game has improved, wouldn't you agree?
I had someone GoWiWi me the other day and he barely made a profit (actually lost elixir). I'm a TH10 in M3 right now.
I've spent a lot of time upgrading my big ♥♥♥ troops, but there just isn't enough loot to make using them profitable. I don't mind a little barching now and then when I need a lot of gold in a hurry, but it's by no means the only army I want to use.
At least one of your detractors seemed to admit to their errors. The match goes to EricTheHulk. I gotta say though I myself had doubts due to the discrepancies between your sit and the village you were talking about.
My motives, based on what I am replying to, are different and vary.
I do sympathize, rarely, not openly though. The issue is all to often exaggerated or ludicrous and I'm not here to join the pity party, though I will attempt to reason with people. I usually come in for the later stages of cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
I have no hidden agenda. Perhaps you can elaborate on what you perceive that agenda to be?
And let's not forget. Did something I say anger or upset you? Too bad, I do not say things to make everyone happy.
The very relevant parts about being a TH8, or below, who got a loot bonus of up to 50% for raiding preemie town halls is always left out of this story....
No i adapted, I used to use balloons aswell but that clearly doen't pay off anymore,special when you need to search for bases that have more then 90K elixir which is tarded, there are none to find, so what to do keep on complaining expecting sc to do what about it? more inactives, what skullz or tactic does it take then to all you strategic geniuses here, and with your th part portected theres plenty of time enough to train troops while logged off up to 2900 cups yeah supriced myself about 2900 but thats what i experience now
Thats right I will not be spending that much money on your game weekly anymore, their is no loot issue? Rubbish! Cancel the cost to next! Nearly maxed th10 am I going to farm for walls and heroes absolutely not And I wont be paying for them either, i will log on have fun with clan mates collect from collectors, war and thats all you will get from me, so goodbye to $1500 a year from me SC!
There have been plenty of good suggestions in this and the other thread about what can be done about it.
So you are you suggesting that from this point forward the only troops we can use are barbs and archers (and minions) because in reality that is the only way we can adapt?
I have spent real money and a lot of time upgrading my other troops and because they are basically now rendered useless I feel kind of ripped off.
Loonian and giant armies are not far off from barch. Unless someone is mindlessly spamming those troops. If you are nexting excessively there is a time tested and proven cure in CoC, trophy range.
Giants, wall breakers and loonians are expensive when you are mindlessly spamming them. I would suggest becoming more surgical with their usage, especially when it comes to the spells that accompany those armies. If it is not working for you I would suggest you are out of your league.
Back in the day and profitable, when was this?
And yes the game has improved, apparently not for you though. It is time to adapt, moaning on the forums without listening to what others are having success with has never, and I repeat NEVER, resulted in individuals getting more loot.
[QUOTE=Coathanger;2949075 My motives, based on what I am replying to, are different and vary.
I have no hidden agenda.[/QUOTE]
Not u again Coat. U have written 3.400 posts and u still insist to write new ones only because u think its an achievement to add to the numbers. U have absolutely no credibility and your statements are often very childish.
Well, I honestly think your hidden agenda is to write as many posts as u can so Mods will notice u and make u one. In this thread ACTIVE players are trying to elaborate and since u are busy writing new posts in the forum u are not one of them. Just go away Coat!
Very true. But so what? My point is 100% valild. If you compare th8 today to th8 last year it's not even close. I'd like to see a th8 in todays game come on and say they are consistently able to make 1.5-2 million per hour gold unboosted.
And again, that is the game that SuperCell gave us. I didn't ask for it, it was built by them and their cracker jack staff. There were also plenty of th9s who did much better than I did. I use to see people making 30-40 million per day as th9s.
I do agree that th10 has always been a problem. But back then it was due to not enough people actually being th10. Now everyone is th10 because they want the ITs. So the loot shouldn't be as big of a problem since the available bases to raid without penalty are much higher. But based on the number of people who have nexting issues it IS a problem and eveyone - including you - knows it.
Hitting next over 100 times is a problem. And no1 can deny there are plenty of us who hit next well in excess of that. It should NEVER happen on a mobile game.
Since you have it all figured out Coat (and since you obviously have time on your hands), why not do something useful and make a guide explaining to us what you do to find loot?
Genuinely interested to know what army composition you follow, how you choose targets etc.....and I think if you're gonna tell people they need to adapt etc., maybe some proof you have adapted would be good towards establishing your credibility.
i jus got to th10 n the loot s pathetic. not 1 gud base. i jus quit. its such a waste f time! only playin war from now on..
Trohpy range arguments are totally bunk. I've gone from 2000-2850 and nowhere is it consistent. It's not like you can turn on a switch and move up 200 trophys. When you are at 2600 it takes time to move up and moving down is completely useless for th10s. Plus, with the time it takes to make a loon army you are a fool if you don't farm in masters. You must have the loot bonus to make it worthwhile.
A lot of people who are on this forum complaining have 1 billion + gold grabs. You don't get that much gold unless you are able to execute an efficient strategy so your comment about being more "surgical" is 100% correct. Most good loon users rarely use spells (and when they do it's never more than 1). The problem is that many of us have to next 100+ times (no matter what trophy range we are at) on a fairly consistent basis to find a base that can be hit with a "surgical" attack.
What I'm finding is that since the update I'm now going all in with my troops and spells because it's the only way I can get decent loot. I'm attacking full blown th10s with lvl 3 ITs because they are the only ones with any loot. And of course it's horribly inefficient (not to mention it cuts way down the number of raids I do) when I have to use more than 2 spells. So the number of raids I'm doing is going way down.
All I want is to be able to find a decent base in a decent amount of nexting. That's it. With loons, there's really no way I'm going to blow out the game and max my base too fast anyway, so why not just let the players actually play the attacking game and not the "next" game?
The problem is that SuperCell built the game that way. The players didn't ask for it. And then they completely pulled the plug. It seems like a deliberate attempt to get people to spend massive amounts of time and then pull a bait and switch tactic banking on the fact that people won't quit because they've spent so much time and $ already.
I actually agree that 30-40 million per day is crazy (and yes there were plenty of guys doing it) and can't be sustained...but for god sakes can we please have some sort of happy medium here?
It's a bit like a town in a deep recession, everyone complaining about the lack of food, high gas prices etc. Meanwhile this one guy turns around and says everyone is nuts and needs to adapt like him....only walk everywhere and eat whatever you can find on the roadside.
Some of us want a better game experience, the minority that like the status quo, simply because they have a lot of time to next and barch are being selfish in their outlook.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_v5...5tzyfid2p2w00k
So guys! Like i said in one of my previous threads...loot has been tough to find for me being a town hall 10. I have also heard from a few town hall 8s saying that they are having difficulties as well. Now i was pretty shocked hearing this from a town hall 8, but it has been pretty common lately. Now, I think Supercell should maybe take into consideration some of our requests as a community on these forums. I've already seen hundreds and hundreds of complaints but have they ignored us? This video is just a short example of how crystal 1 (usually one of the best places for inactives) is kind of in a drought like many of the other leagues currently. Now i am pushing to masters league ATM, praying to find some loot soon! Only loot I've been able to manage lately has been from clan wars which is shocking as well. THANKS!
So leave your opinions guys and also any leagues that you have been successful in! TOWN HALL LEVEL? LEAGUE/TROPHY RANGE?
I can't remember when loot wasn't complained about....
to add something constructive to this however, my sons base sits for weeks at a time and going back to it from time to time clearly shows no attacks after a certain period. Meaning inactive bases are removed from the search pool.
Please dont forget to downvote coc in the appstore.
who said anything about storage raiding being obsolete?
You should have hit that base at 1:21. You can't live in collector farming only and you cant be so picky if you're going to barch. Also I don't know how important gold is to you since you have all four storages on the edge of your base for easy pickings
You could have hit the base at 2:41?
If you want to barch your way up to masters you should probably just look for bases you can for sure one star. You'll still make money on loot bonus, farm when you actually get there
Trophy range can completely affect how much you next. The factors relating to higher town halls can include how many preemies or lower town halls you are surrounded by. They wish to have that badge and do not raid unless they can spend it quickly. They have no defense other than to not have loot, this discourages raiding them and increases your nexting. Go to where they do not do this. I regularly have to next past fat storages near 2200, but yes there are still many lower town halls whose only defense is to hold not loot.
tl;dr People have differing goals in this game and people must work around that.
They corrected what they saw to be a problem in an attempt to improve the game for the players, it's a big leap to get to malfeasance.
Who does not want more loot? At the same time would the game not be just as boring if you did not have variety? It is well within an individual clasher's ability to change his circumstances thereby improving his experience.
A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver.
Ignoring the inflammatory posts.
I or we(?) am not/are not saying use exclusively tier 1 troops there are other options, and yes farming the bonus is one of them. If you wish to use OP armies you are not going to be as profitable and rightly so for everyone would use OP armies, boring. What can I say? Think outside the box or remove the blinders that prevent progression.
And you betcha, adapt to your circumstances you are playing the game along with millions of other players who are using varying tactics. These millions of other players may also play the game differently than you do. I for one to not go into others houses and demand they act a certain way in my presence.
Another Loot thread Yay. Relying on inactives is absurd. Looting based on a person making an account and stop playing should be the best option for you. Loot has been changed many times and complaints are the same. My raids are fine. Last 6 raids in an hour netted a little over 1.3 gold 1.2 lix and 7900 De. Two of the raids for around 140k gold and lix, but was all in the collectors.
Play the game and enjoy it, or move on.
My friend asked me to show the game.
He looked at me like on idiot after 15 min of pressing next I couldn't find anyone worth attacking
I keep hoping when someone does a loot video they'd speed up the replay. It's horrible enough when I have to hit next constantly, I don't want to watch someone else do it.
That's my constructive criticism for the day.
I have played Clash of Clans for nearly 6 months now and finally have reached TH9. I have spent much time playing and much gold and elixir on my base and troops. I have even dropped money $ on some bags of gems to shorten time or grab some loot on the next big upgrade . I always had fun playing, but recently it has become pointless to attack or participate in clan wars. I use to play for 1 to 2 hours per day and also attack throughout the day. However, I cannot find enough loot to sustain my units for attack or participate in clan wars with good troop compositions or upgrade my base.
Please focus on fixing the loot system or eventually I will lose interest and move onto another game.
6-10 level 5 hogs and a heal spell (if possible) you need to attack bases with easily accessible splash or at least a few defenses clumped together and take a couple of wall breakers with you... for the barbs and archers. Wizards in your CC can really help. hogs have a tendancy to trigger the CC.
Some of those bases had really low defenses. Its not going to be an ideal solution to get to masters but at least it can help u get some resources.
another option is using 6-8 giants to break into bases with some wallbreakers but walls can really slow them down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_v5IKiOBWo
So guys! Like i said in one of my previous threads...loot has been tough to find for me being a town hall 10. I have also heard from a few town hall 8s saying that they are having difficulties as well. Now i was pretty shocked hearing this from a town hall 8, but it has been pretty common lately. Now, I think Supercell should maybe take into consideration some of our requests as a community on these forums. I've already seen hundreds and hundreds of complaints but have they ignored us? This video is just a short example of how crystal 1 (usually one of the best places for inactives) is kind of in a drought like many of the other leagues currently. Now i am pushing to masters league ATM, praying to find some loot soon! Only loot I've been able to manage lately has been from clan wars which is shocking as well. THANKS!
So leave your opinions guys and also any leagues that you have been successful in! TOWN HALL LEVEL? LEAGUE/TROPHY RANGE?
haha a mod added this to daddys big thread or something..
Loot sucks for TH9 so much, this is the last 45 mins of combat log from today.
Loot's been the same all day :mad:
http://i.imgur.com/sz0323G.jpg
/s
If you are going to be unhelpful at least do him the service of reading his actual post.
He is pushing to masters. His AQ is down and he's lost resources by trying to push. Whether you agree or not a few inactives would help - not just the loot - but the x bows & IT could be empty which would be of benefit
I personally dont think the loot is bad, just get up in leagues
its true for me too..KEEP UP THE GOOD VIDEOS! I SUBBED
To put it all simply: NO LOOT NO LOOT!! 👎💀😏
next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next, next.....
This isn't fun.
my old thread was moved to here which is garbage..so go here to go back to chatting with me at this second thread i had to make about loot :eek: = http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...-%28Video%29-2
I've found my silver lining in the loot situation. Rather than press next for 20 minutes, I just hang out in clan chat instead. Lots of fast fingers in our clan, but since I'm not raiding, I'm maintaining a positive donate ratio. I like CW even though it's a DE drain but our clan does really well, so I'm not ready to put the game down yet.
Don't you get it? There's plenty of loot as you go higher. But you need to have an expensive army in order to get the loot. Not to mention that the higher you go, the more likely you'll be attacked. So actually, you'll lose more loot than you'll gain as you go higher. So loot sucks.
Loot is very good for me tonight.
But I just read an account of people that played back in 2013 making 20-30-40 million profits in a day, which is kinda depressing.
COC is a great game but with the new changes it is really hard to get any loot which is why the game was fun in the first place.I have spent 5 dollars 3 different times to get upgrades which I dont fell bad about at all I have x box games I dont play half as much as this and I pay 60 bucks a game for those.
I know it takes money to keep this game running maybe you should consider a one time fee of 10.00 dollars per person or something of that nature to generate profit.I would pay it to have the old coc back.
Dont stop making these, keep posting.we gotta take the power back hahaha
well I know it takes money to run the game you cant think that millions of players around the world arent costing supercell money to keep coc up and running .I just want them to put it back the way it was.I used to play all the time now not so much
The game has on average been giving me 79,213 gold and 101,325 elixir.
From my spreadsheet, I have counted 1587 "nexts" in my search for a 200k base.
In a lot of those Next streaks, I have resorted to sniping a TH and losing gold but gaining a little bit of elixir/DE from the crystal league bonus.
This situation is really getting depressing now.
I haven't posted in a week or so.....just played the best way I could and was tired and depressed by this thread.
The problems remain the same....low loot, particularly lix since the ill considered 'lix for walls' debacle. And because lix IS now at a premium people not leaving it lying to become a target.
I am a member of a top farming clan, very active, very high donators..... And activity has dropped through the floor. Donates down by two thirds, everyone complaining no matter what league they are in ( we have champs to gold3) Two people said yesterday that they only log in to chat now and would quit if not for the friendships.
I don't know how much more will be tolerated.
I DO know that 'lix for walls' is the cause.
( and to coathanger.....if you respond to this with "have faith" I think I may ACTUALLY vomit! You mean well I am sure but, seriously, stop it!)
The averages have actually been falling over the past 3 days.
I started my spreadsheet record on Sunday and was averaging 145k gold/elixir. Thought i might not need to carry on recording but i persisted. Now I am glad i didnt stop as I can see my gold average as dropped by 50%!
To me it just feels as if someone in Supercell, with no experience of how economys work, is just modifying the economy randomly.If this is true, seriously stop it and hire an economist.
The gold sink (next cost) and available loot is JUST NOT synching.
this lack of feedback from supercell is really infuriating!!! they reasoned out that after an update loot usually take a dip, show us the stats/figures to justify such claim!!! its been weeks and the loot is horrible!!!!!