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It does not matter anyway. I'll believe it's back when I see it myself. Back in the day you could raid silver 2 to gold 2 as a TH 7 and it was a question of preference for what was "best". But it's garbage to think you need to move around and find a new range.
If 1/100 bases are decent and 1/300 are awesome some people will still have good days. It does not mean that raiding is worth your time. I'll believe it's better when most people say it's ok. Also, some people never were good at calculating what they spend for raids, so without screen shots, I'm going to take the cheerleaders words with a huge grain of salt.
So I nexted ad nauseum again and decided i have angered myself for the last time. I too shall only log in to empty my collectors just before my shield runs out twice a day. I shall not boost, I shall not spend a single cent on this game and I shall dump all of my storages into walls. I shall log in like this until this game is no longer supported on the servers just to deny anyone benefit off of my hard earned labor over the past year and a half. Good luck everyone!
Th10
lvl 123
18 month vet
gg/ee 750k each
Fun fact: I make more gold not playing than actually playing and nexting.
I agree with you but.... Feedback and issues should be posted and that's why I come here. I know there are a million of these threads but nothing has been done yet.. Loot is at an all time low it seems, minus the guy who drank a case of red bull and farmed all skulls in one day... I enjoy the game but then loot situation is terrible. If the people, including myself don't come in here and address this issue, it will be terrible and will never get fixed. It doesn't have to be like this. But greed????? Idk
I am th9 and the average loot for me is from OK to good, but what really sucks is that I have to next for Ages. No Need to boost you barracks any more. You will spend most of the time nexting. Even if loot is better than before (maybe because I was th8 with no queen and lvl6 giants before the update), it is definitely much less fun.
Even during the boosts there were no real storage raids, but only the inactive bases with 200K each that you find after nexting 50-100 times.
So because he proved loot was good by how he was ableto farm lego walls quickly, means he is a fanboy. A fanboy is any who defends a game they love no matter wht And usually without solid evidence, not just anyone you don't agree with. Saying "Loot sucks you fanboy" isn't really evidence the loot sucks.
Fun facts as of right now: 194 pages of this thread, 113,000 views. Yet supercell hasn't done a thing about the loot issues.
and yeah, loot issue seem to get worse even though I wasn't sure or was possible. Negative gold raids pressing next: Yey!
Today and tonight and like all the times, the loot is soooo bad that I don't want to play anymore. Today I hardly gathered 100.000 gold for IT Level 3. After that, in 5 hours playing I have got only 800.000 gold.
I can not upgrade rest of my defence units. Until now, I have bought some gems but from now on I won't.
This game is coming closer to the end !!!
R.I.P. Clash Of Clans.
People complained on the forums about hogriders, they got nurfed how many times? I dont think people are talking about hogriders anymore, just the fact that loot is terrible . . . .. seems to be the common forum topic.
I am quite sure Supercell will get the hint,
townhall 7 needs a lvl 1 DE drill (to fix all the damn zap threads )
townhall 8 needs lvl12 goldmines and elixir collectors combined with a achievment bonus ( to get overall loot to a better than horrible level )
I would like townhall 9 to get lvl13 goldmines and elixir collector, however that might be like asking to turn straw into gold.
My game works just fine. Not broken at all. Perhaps uninstall and reinstall? Make sure game is linked first or you'll lose your progress.
Loot has been tough for me these few weeks since the update came out. I'm a new th 9 been there about 2 and a half weeks and the loot seems to come on and off. Some days its great but others i cant find anything. I search for sometimes up to 10 minutes. Is my reason for bad loot because of the loot penalty? Is it the update aftermath? Or is it because I'm a new th 9? The people in my clan are saying similar things and i hear that the loot is best in crystal 1 and master 3. If i go up there thought get shrekked by other th 9s and th 10s. Someone please advise what to do
If you rushed your townhall, you're pretty much screwed at th9 at this point. I'm in high crystal 2 right now and loot still sucks. Eventually gonna push up to masters and see if it's better. If not, I'll be moving my collectors inside my base and taking a nice long break.
people who say farm in masters are probably looners or gowiwiers that wait 45-hour waiting on an army that only gets them like 300k gold an hour, which is fine for casual players with little free time and dont want to next for very long times.
Its like that with every th...
I am here just to state the obvious , loot is very bad .
Elixir is what keeps the game going , like fuel .. not enough fuel game will stop . Not that you need to know how bad the situation is because you already do .. why haven't you taken any action is beyond any common sense. No more spending on gems , boosting ? Hah kidding right
lower your rating on Google play and appstore , thats how they will listen , I already did
others are trying to keep their loot same as u. stop hiding out in silver and gold and come play with the other TH9 and TH10s in Crys. and Mast. and Champ. leagues. or stay down there and bully the lower TH's.
I've been finding good loot and posting my trophy range.... well I think you all came up here and stole it all before I could. Prework raids were bad. I dropped 200 cups to try and find it but no luck. Going back the other way now.
Since the update:
Tesla to lvl 5 and 6
Both xbows to lvl 2
BK from about 5-10
Loons upgrade to lvl 6
Dark Barracks to 5 and 6
Dark elixir drill to lvl 5
50 Skulls and 60 legos
I think the loot is just fine :cool:
Loonioning is a fantastic strategy for the time I have.
I don't have a problem finding loot, may not be the fasted method but I'm a patient player.
I'm doing great at Crystal 3/2
what is this update that people keep mentioning, and how did it affect loot?
2 weeks since the update and have read over 6000 complains about the loot including the old one and only loot topic wich coc has burryd and replaced with a new link!
They keep ignoring and trying to shut our mouth.
Boycot and downvote now! Go to applestore->clash of clans and below you can vote 1/5 stars and write comment. All the 6000 comments should be moved to the apple store
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Lost 400k of elixir because i had to try to attack a very hard base with 200k/200k loot and couldnt rob 20k out of it. 2 time today all spell cost search cost
Also spent 200 searches 200k of gold just to find poor bases with 40k loot in it.
And im MAD give my lost time back
For TH9, 1550-1650 are the sweetest spots.
1800 and up, suck hard for gold and elixir.
You have received an infraction at Supercell Community Forums.
Reason: Complaining about bad loot.
Give my lost time back or 400k elixir and 200k gold wich i spend today. Thieves!!
Th 10 in crystal 3 decided to move up to 2. Loonianed my way, made some gold about 500k for the afternoon, but lost elixor. I only have lab updates left and its 10 days until the next update so it's no big deal to me. But new th 10s who need elixor for updates, I do not know how they will do it. The whole game economy has collapsed, guess barching is king. Very sad to see this happen to such a good game.
Well congratulations. According to your sig, you joined in December 2012, so that means that before the update, you had an average of 400k per day on your gold grab. Then suddenly after the update, you've been averaging over 7 million per day. That is quite an accomplishment considering so many people are finding such low loot since the update.
to be quite honest, i don't need your approval. My clan mates and I know my accomplishments, and that's really all that matters. i already told you i took a hiatus from this game, and i beat the Gold grab achievement before profiles, meaning quite a bit of my loot wasn't tracked. Thanks though :o
Hilarious. A couple of unconfirmed players ignoring completely reasonable situations in some bizarro attempt to disprove the good loot of a man who wears his stats in his sig. Stay classy and learn to math.
Come now. Farm a 100 mil in three weeks. Over a year he should be hitting: 52 weeks in a year / 3 weeks * 100 mil = 1.7 bil a year. Give me a break. Only hard core guys are hitting those numbers. Boosting rax and logging tons of hours. Look, say you are making good loot. Fine. But don't make up stuff.
And anyone can check my profile. See my sig.....
A town hall 8 is finding loot in gold 2. Rejoice! our problems are solved!!!
Glad to see you are finding loot, but its not like that everywhere for everyone. Enjoy town hall 8 while you can! I miss the days of barch farming
Don't be a d-bag when someone is just sharing their experience. Give off your high horse.
I'm TH 9. Wasn't finding good loot in Crystal 2 (although my clanmates are claiming to be finding good loot there). Currently in Gold 2 and finding some damn good barchable loot. It's pretty great.
Although, this is one day out of the past month being awful to the point I didn't want to raid.
It's gem boost residual really, it will die down in a couple days IMO
I wish I was lucky enough to farm 100mil in 3 weeks.
You can be! All you need is.... http://www.quickmeme.com/img/b3/b302...9aefe9eabf.jpg
OK I must admit, loot was very good for me this evening. I was ready to cry this afternoon when I farmed < 1 M gold in nearly 3 hours, and I made a post on here complaining. Loot improved tonight and unfortunately I maxed my gold storage and was still finding nice easy (albeit small-ish) collector raids.
Aureus Luna <---- in case anybody needs to verify my amazing stats
I play on 4 accounts and allmost 2 years,
never have i experience loot as bad as today
on all 4 accounts. I cant find any bases without nexting a billion times
on my th10s its the worst
supercell really need to fix the economy
your lootsystem isnt working
Lix walls? Cut the farm down to 50mil (lix can be as useful as gold now) in 2 weeks (not 3) 25 mil a week 3.5 mil each a day towards advancing walls n what not, that's not even hard core. Also it is not abnormal. The 100 mill being used in contrast to his GG is irrelevant if he has not played much this year. Wth am I missing? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiprocess
To put it simply profiting 3.5 mil, each, each a day can be done it no time at all.
I have tried finding your clan multiple times. What am I doing wrong?:confused: Or what type of shield?
thats how it is. I did post couple times saying that loot is bad . Than it became just fine. Next day will be bad again. So come around complain more often. Thats what i will do right now. Enough nexting already. We want maintanance breaks back. Tired of nexting hours for nothing. When r u going to do something about it. Dont you see all this posts. Maybe they dont. Someone please report this post so maybe it helps them see it.
Lol, just lol! I am not going to bother going through his upgrades and get the exact of gold/elixir he needed. I am sure he went over a year farming basically nothing to full blown farm master during a period of rockin loot....
And my bad, search cowboyskillers. Dropped the s behind cowboy in my sig. But let me help ya. GG this 763mil. And ya, I took 24 months off and still hit that. Lol! Whatever, i don't believe too many people that say they farmed 60 Legos in 3 weeks with a crappy gold grab....
edit: and i forgot. 60 Legos AND 25 skills, balloon upgrade, xbows, dark barracks blah, blah. Sure, bro. In just three weeks. I expect him to publish a guide a some point with those numbers. Ha
People with no money and time on their hands ( teenagers ) will more than likely continue to exploit and ruin the game for everyone. Clash's time is running out boys. I barely play anymore and I don't understand how they can continue to ignore the loot problems. Loot threads loot threads oh how they will never end.
Loot Complaints: 24,984,900 +1
Sorry to edit your quote but I needed to isolate this portion as it is where I believe the falsehood lies. I'm not trying to call you out or anything. It is just that I see many people fall into this. GG is not a good indicator for anyone who played long before August 2013 since prior to that GG was not tracked past 100mil.
Why would a low GG mean someone cannot farm 50mil each over 2 weeks?
♥♥♥♥ heres the breakdown of how mch ive played this year: i played a bit at the beginning of the year, left because i had real life things get in the way, then i came back for a month of clan wars, then exams for school and busy summer, then come back mid august and start playing again since i have time, before i was farming multiple accounts as now im focusing on my main. Logically i would have a bigger gg than i dd before. Sometimes i pray for some people ♥♥♥♥.
Yes. Exactly. I can't control the game. But I can control how I play it. So I adjusted from a serial barcher in gold leagues to exactly what you described above. Gold per hour doesn't exist anymore.
I'm not saying the game isn't broken. I genuinely think it is. But I still enjoy playing it, and the style you describe above works. It works very well. I spend about 5 minutes finding a base, make 300k/300k with a 90/90k loot bonus. Full drills everywhere too.
I completely agree with this statement.
I started in 2012 only a max townhall 9 with 215 legos with a gold grab of 337mill. ($200 gems used were for builders, and troop upgrades from back then till now)
The game was fun an exciting back then i actually enjoyed raiding. I always maxed my base each townhall and my collectors were priority. Once i got to townhall 8 and started grinding on walls, i hit a wall and decided log in to donate troops and collect resources for quite a while. Clan wars brought my attention back, and i am now focused on finishing my walls.
I still cant raid like i used too, but i take advantage of oppertunities when they come "golden hours" alone account for the majority of my loot. Its possible to raid 11 mill combined easy in just a single hour, however a typical days loot for me is only about 3 mill combined.
ill just leave this here....
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take note of the date of the picture and the gold grab. now look at yourself in the mirror and remind yourself that you arent always right. have a nice day.
Another thread on loot where opinions are bashed into pieces! :)
Im th10... Crystal2 - which requires patience but i have 4 arch towers left to hit L13 and all my gold and elixir will be dropped into walls...
I've been playing this game since day 1 and have seen every change that has been made... Loot change wasnt bad in fact they made more loot available its just harder to find or harder to get..
Having spent hundreds of millions of gold and elixir ive come to the conclusion that complaining about loot comes from 2 types of people...
1. Those with no patience
2. Those that cannot attack
Ask yourself if you are one of these before splurging what is good or bad... Its random!!!
This thread exists not for daddy's shiney explanation of thread merging but for supercell to see what impact using elixir on walls has had...
Best move ever by the way, won't be seeing any raided elixir go to space anymore when I'm full! :)
Also a good move when a recent dev interview on redit showed elixir was twice that in volume of gold but had less than half the requirement...
Spells and walls spring to mind :)
And for anyone that doesnt believe me i wont photoshop my gg....
Ign:keywal
Clan:ZZZZZ
(Having a rest)
Dont bother complaining (ive tried before it doesn't work) instead ask yourself if youre one of these 2 types and if you are... Stop playing for your own mental health
Very hard to search for loot, just like trying to save le forest with a glass of water.
Stop making soooooo much god damn sense guys... SC knows better:rolleyes:
Collect and build walls. If everyone did that the game would break and someone would have to listen...
Loot is still bad. I played for an extensive period yesterday. I raided just over 40 times and by the end of the day had made 2.5m gold profit - including a full day's (inc evening) gold mine production. A large chunk of my loot income was lost to pressing next.
Now, 2.5m might sound a lot to people looking just at the headline number but remember, that was over an extended playing period of over 12 hours (not constant raids of course) and across 40 FULL army raids ex spells.
Did I have fun?
No.
Will I do it again?
No. Not until SC actually do something about loot. I dont think monitoring it is working...
That in addition to this thread and the one before it should tell SC a lot. People that WANT to play the game would rather complain about the game...slippery slope...slippery slope indeed.
Rovio have just announced large job cuts - the cost of losing traction with their loyal fan base...
Dont take us for granted SC....
i nexted away small fortune about 250k looking for bam raids earlier, loost is really bad right now post 1 gem boost
Like politicians SC do seem to be suffering from that disease of refusing to leave something alone that works. The elixir wall change was not wanted, not needed and has had a terrible effect on the game.
They seem to be unable to leave well alone for five minutes and the apparently recent addiction to making sweeping changes to a great format is in danger of ruining this game.
CHANGE THE WALLS BACK AND LEAVE IT ALONE FOR A FEW MONTHS!
Maybe the loot issue will be solved and that will placate many players. Try eating Krispy Kreme donuts in the office instead of holding constant meetings to come up with potty ideas...
For the record Monopoly is still a great game and last time I looked you still couldn't buy properties with elixir.
To be honest, as a maxed TH10, Elixir had become, for me, next to useless. Yes, some people benefited from the fact that I gave it away by sticking it outside of my base walls BUT that is not really what game developers want is it...a near useless resource that players at the top dont care about.
The fact is that you complete your elixir upgrades waaaaay faster than your gold ones yet the resources are supposed to be held in the same regard - ie gold and lix production is the same.
So, whilst walls now being upgraded with lix has impacted a number of players who got used to easy lix (I personally never raided for it and unless i wanted % would happily leave full storages / collectors before quitting a match), all it does is highlight an underlying issue with loot. What I mean by this is that the situation existed before the change. All the change did was expose the issue from an elxir perspective. Of course, gold has always had this issue and gold is also hard to acquire these days. That has nothing to do with the lix 4 walls change so I dont think there is any benefit complaining about that.
Ultimately, SC gave players like a me a purpose for elixir once again and that is a welcome thing in my book. Lets focus on the true root causes for poor loot if we want a sustainable fix...
Supercell please respond.... Is 100-200 next okay each time you raid - only to get around 50K gold/elexir???? This game is getting so boring... next ,next, next, next next..... nothing but clouds and next clicking... Come on!!!! Please just give a response to the situation....
lol, here is some imagination for you
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While I understand your point of view from the top of the game I have to slightly disagree with you. The excessive nexting in the search for elixir also drains more gold out of the game. As a close to maxed TH10 I now have to choose my ClanWars just to save up enough elixir to keep my researching going. Just like you I havent focused on elixir. Not since TH7, except for just after a TH-upgrade. Now it is completly different and I have to rely on collectors. My own and those from abondoned bases, just to stay ahead. The game is just not as fun any more.
I think your stance is a little short sighted Carlito (except the part about the long term fix). People such as yourself & other lix maxed th 8,9 & 10's were crucial to the economy in my opinion. Personally, i do still need lix for upgrades - so when i was raiding, you & others like you were valid targets. I got my lix to cover army cost & profit a bit, got some gold too - & did it dumping 80k less into the next pit.
that all adds up - over a course of a season, i may do 70 - 100 raids - that 5.6 - 8m gold i've not taken out of the economy. i'll save that up for gold upgrades - & you'll find me or those like me sooner than now, getting the gold you want again with less wasted nexting.
You not having lix to fuel my gaming experience is in my opinion the a significant cause of your poorer game experience as you set out in your prev post - doing 40 raids for 2.5m gold profit, with a lot of boredom & gold lost through nexting. Overall, neither of us are getting what we want out of raiding.
i fear we're in a downwards spiral (or at the bottom following one) as the food chain of abandoned bases & lix heavy folk such as yourself, who together fueled the varied raiding economy (i.e. not all barch, all the time) have suddenly changed - & in my mind for the worse.
Yes, I am not saying that elixir not being easier to come by is not a problem...clearly it is, I agree that loot sucks.
What I am saying is that it is not the fact we can now spend lix on walls that is an issue. If we take that stance, we'd be asking SC to stop making upgrades so we have nothing to spend resource on...so there is more for us to raid from people...kinda silly when you play out the conversation that way, right?
The mechanics around the economy do not work. That is the issue. Giving us stuff to spend resource on is part of the game, it makes us want to play and raid...not having enough to keep the game fun is the problem. That is a separate issue to lix for walls. All lix for walls does is exacerbate the problem - it did not create it.
If we want a better game, we need SC to fix the economy - inhibiting spend is not how to do that, generating more sustained streams of income for all is.
Not easy, we dont want hyper inflation cos that will just lead to a bunch of maxed bases in a couple of months but it seems more than clear that the balance is off right now and too many people are quite simply not having fun any more.
From SC's point of view having people quit without maxing is preferable to letting them max and then quit. Not many progression over time games have chosen this kind of path of total inhibition, by the way, so how it turns out is a bit interesting. On the latter part of your comment, was Clash ever more about having fun than fulfilling the maniacal need to upgrade the village to max?
Even though that comment may be a bit too harsh, I think most you can expect from a future update is a very small adjustment to better the loot in an effort to find that optimal point of no-loot-but-people-will-still-try again.
They should come up with a different loot system but that is not going to happen.
if this was not a pay 2 win game I would of course agree with you, but SC allways have to take cashflow into the consitteration when designing the economy. There is a big difference between elixir and gold. Elixir is required to attack, donating and basically all the fun. Letting all users, including those 90% farmers depend on that dont know how to play the game properly, drain elixir wo/builders time out of the economy is a big issue. If they just wanted to let maxed players have something to use their elixir on it would be introduced at wall lv9 or 10. That would also make more sense, because building those lower level walls really isn't to much of a grind and we would at least have to save up some raidable elixir in our storrages before we could drain it out.
Just spend 250K gold on nexting... found a base on 100K gold - didnt want to next anymore so I raided that. No I am down 150K for this 1 raid...
Found a few bases in gold 1 earlier but I agree, loot has been very low lately.
Some stats from my play this morning...
- 4hrs played
- 9 raids @ Crystal 2
- 8 wins
- 1.684m gold raided
- 0.272m gold from bonus
- 0.084m gold from mines
- 2.040m gold income over the period.
- 1.389m gold added to my storages
- 0.651m spent on next button
- 38.7% of my loot from raids spent on the cost of finding a raid
- 115k average gold raid after costs @ max TH10 with wall costs at 4m a block.
- 35 raids at this average needed to do one block
- 15.6hrs of play required to raid 4m at this rate.
Fun?!
You decide
Clash of Clans now is change. Now it's not about how to raid. Now it's about how to "next"
Keep patience or leave and find something new...
loot sucks in gold leauge
Farming all day then suddenly I lost everything I've saved on one raid!!!! This is stupid!!!! Can't use spells cause it costs more elixir. Can't use better troops cause it costs more elixir. Can't join clan wars cause it costs more elixir!!! I want to curse at the one who brought the idea of using elixir on walls on low level th
I've known it was bad but following a ba experience yesterday i decided to keep track today over 4hrs. Not pretty...And i actually found better raids than i did yesterday in less time, believe it or not! Had the stats been on yesterdays results it would have been worse.
2.203 (two thousands two hundred and three) posts...and nothing feedback from Supercell...this funny game at the beginning going down deep in a bottom of earth, very regrettable...
IDK, I get a little suspicious when people post about making 70mil gold and 60 mil elixir in a 16 day period. Especially when they got a low gold grab. But this is getting off track. I really don't care if you did or did not. But if it is true then you should be maxed out th9 in no time. Easily on track for well over a billion gold grab in just a few months. Then you can join us TH10s in the golden land of loot!
Sounds like my kind of fun! I especially like the next button. Haha, you hit it 651 times. If you took on average about 4 seconds on each next you spent just under 45 minutes hitting next. With 9 raids and 2 minutes a raid you spent about 18 minutes actually attacking. Fun............
Loot has gotten so bad that farming/raiding is not worth my time any longer, too many nexts for too little reward, I'm giving up on what was once a fun game, I'll check in every once in a while to dump my collectors but I'll waste no more time on this till (if) loot improves. I also submitted my review of the game at the app store, maybe save someone else a headache.