The NEW one and only loot is good or bad thread

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Whilst the the details you are discussing are, no doubt, relevant to the game in general, the complaints of this last week relate ONLY to this last update.

Whilst there were many new additions ( most were VERY good IMO) the loot has crashed and not bounced back as it always does after a few days.

The ONLY major change the could POSSIBLY have affected loot is the change to use of lix for walls.

I hate to bang on about it but your prescence here, engaged in deep, somewhat esoteric, debate about the finer points, might lead members to think the matter is being discussed.

Whilst I do not believe there is any subterfuge I think it would reassure people to have an admin's perspective.

It is my contention that lower THs dumping lix into walls has made raiding them impossible as the raiders lix will run dry....even barching. This puts importance on inactives as never seen before, as generally loot is even in these bases. As lix runs dry higher TH levels keep theirs minimal to avoid being a target and the problem spirals.

May I respectfully ask your opinion on the ONLY change that could be at the root of the current crisis.....LIX FOR WALLS and namely allowing lix to be used for level 6 and up so that TH 7 and 8 are now dry.

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Elixir for walls is not an adequate answer to the GOLD question, but that's certainly the right idea. The gold shortage is mainly attributable to the rise in overall player activity following an update along with new things to upgrade (ATs from a gold perspective). Yes, walls and barch level 7 are certainly enormous factors in the elixir drain. However, all of this is painfully obvious, and the discussion on this particular update pretty much ends there. It's not really indicative of the wider issue of loot, but rather a quibble over short-term issues with gold (granted elixir is likely to be a long term issue).

I'll admit that I may be overplaying my hand here, but what better time to have an overall loot debate than when that's what everyone is talking about? Surely the goal is to convince SC that some of us believe there are systemic loot issues not confined to this particular update, at least for those of us who would like to see production increases.

I would like to point out that this loot is good/bad thread is not specifically update-related like the feedback thread is, so I feel this extension of the topic is perfectly valid here.

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Originally Posted by Jubud

I hit 400 times Next today, nobody cares really, loot is ♥♥♥♥ like always

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I think they are saying that they are waiting for the report or results to see how is it going. What a joke! Check how many people complaining.

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Originally Posted by Is0prene

Yes prioritizing gold bases and upgrading gold mines before pumps does make gg higher in general in the overall game, but I think the larger contributor was people sitting on maxed elixir storages while upgrading walls. I must have wasted 20-30 million elixir while my storages were just overflowing while trying to find gold. That puts a huge toll on the net amount of elixir out there combined with everyone else that was in similar situations. At a maxed base, there was just nothing to do with it.

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That also had an effect. I would quit attacks early to avoid taking elixir since I couldn't use it. I'd have more fun allowing the attack to run it's course as opposed to consciously attempting to save resources from disappearing unnecessarily. However my EE never gains ground on my HH even when attacking for exclusively elixir and I believe this is the main contributor.

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Originally Posted by joshGzD

supercell... you need to sort out the loot its been poor also why is it hard to find inactive I was told they were put the end of the que why???

there needs to be a better layout for loot eg. a loot cap min gold ---k min elixir ---k (but 400k max so its not overused) it would be a very good idea and stop me from quitting; i'm not the only one!!!

if im honest since Christmas the game has gone downhill I waited it out to see if it would pick up but it hasn't

please fix i and many others will quit

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I feel your pain bud. I use to boost all barracks once a day plus some casual attack. That equals to 8-10 hours play or more in a day. But now, I only do 5-10 attacks a day. There is no loot. I almost maxed my TH9 except King and walls. Not going to upgrade to 10 for now. Its just waste of time for sitting there press NEXT NEXT NEXT

Some facts........Carlito from Opes Revolution was farming 9 million gold per day in December 2013! He was TH 9 at the time. I don't believe that anybody, at any TH level, is finding that kind of loot nowadays. Sc have form with this, and have been reducing loot since that time. I must assume that they have made a conscious decision to reduce the number of players.....nothing else makes sense! If that has been their rationale....it doesn't make sense either.

I never realized it, but my EE is higher. 338M EE and 306M GG. I would have thought GG was higher. I have always valued elixer and seem to always need it for upgrades. I thought i would be done with elixer upgrades a year ago, but i am far from it. And new levels just require more. And i dont put hardly any gold or elixer in walls since they are like the 15th most important part of the game. Most of my walls are level 7 now, but defence is nearly maxed besides walls. I just dont have the time and wont spend money to max everything. I enjoy playing the game, it is fun. But i dont really care if i max stuff, i will never be in the top 200. If i push for a week, i stall out around 2950 trophies.

But i like this discussion and it made me realize that i guess i valued elixer for the last year.

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Originally Posted by urspace

I feel your pain bud. I use to boost all barracks once a day plus some casual attack. That equals to 8-10 hours play or more in a day. But now, I only do 5-10 attacks a day. There is no loot. I almost maxed my TH9 except King and walls. Not going to upgrade to 10 for now. Its just waste of time for sitting there press NEXT NEXT NEXT

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Uh if loot at th9 is bad, upgrading to th10 isn't a smart solution

​loot is bad.. The end

I'm TH 10 and doing just fine farming in master 3. I build an army that cost ~60k in elixr, and raid bases I know I can get 1 star so that my bonus covers my cost. It's just adapting and improvising when the game changes.

Ive been around 25 months, and certainly cant remember 3 breaks in quick succession, apart from clan war launch when it all went a bit wrong.

Praying that they will be something to do with 'bunny' detection, they deserve to be banned, and have to impact the economy.

I dont believe that SC has an exact grip on the frequency of inactives being trickled into the queue, but if one of the breaks happens to change the algorithms of search queueing to relax that alleged grip, then happy days.

As a pretty much maxed th10, with wars one of only things to look forward to, the already skewed matchmaking seems to be becoming more and more wild. A virtually unwinnable war, followed by a hopelessly easy one, then back to massive 'dogs. I understand that matching cant feasibly be perfectly fair all the time, but in those 3 wars, each sides enjoyment is going to be severely impacted. No, even the really easy one wasnt fun.