The NEW one and only loot is good or bad thread

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Originally Posted by Dudethatrocks

I've already posted a message in this thread. But still. Loot is really fine to me. I'm at th10, master III, 2600-2750 cups, have no problem with loot at all.
archers, hogs, Giants - sometimes spells (healing). Loot bonus + 100-200k most of the time. 6-8 mln of gold per day, 4-6 hours of gameplay.
clan name: chinovniki, nick - dudethatrocks.

Just learn how to win and get that gold.

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Same TH level, same farming range, similar attacking times, comps and loot. Yet I completely disagree with you about loot being good. It's not. I never complained about loot prior to the elix-wall update but I certainly am now. It isn't so much that I'm not getting loot, it's that the ways we get loot are stupid and wrong. Some fixes could make it much more fun for everyone without the game just dishing out mass amounts of resources to us. The possible improvements exist. Read my last post and tell me you don't see potential for a better loot system even if it isn't with my ideas.

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Originally Posted by Goobers

The solution is not "make the TH a 5th storage, done." I've never said that's the fix to this problem. I have said over and over again that what SC is doing--these simple, slap it across the board fixes--are never going to work. If they want to gear farming/hunting away from inactives, a pretty drastic overhaul is needed. What I (and others) have been saying is that along with treating the TH as a storage, they need to:

- instill a league bonus multiplier based on stars. apply a penalty to the multiplier similarly to the current loot multiplier so that it isn't exploited by TH9/10s
- allow for gold/elixir to be used for Nexting, and apply a percentage of each Nexting cost into each base skipped, on a diminishing scale, of which up to all of it can be won by either the attacker or defender, and is entirely storage-based (destruction/preservation)
- a league bonus for successful defenses

SC puts these in place, and not "just make the TH a storage," and you now have a system that can at least be far more sustainable by active players than the one we currently have.

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Those ideas are good on their own. You don't need to "force" people to put their TH's inside on top of it. It really isn't necesarry and wont increase overall loot, just more dumping and forcing people to play a certain way.
I like to sleep at night knowing I have a 12 hour shield. I also prefer to log on/off during the day knowing that I wont loose more than I can gain in one or two raids. Take that away and you may end up destroying a big success.

No one is forcing people to put their TH anywhere... Unless you mean economically, then yes it makes no sense to ever have your TH inside.

The fact is my clan of mostly th10s all put their Townhalls outside, most do it even while pushing once near champs. Even in champs, they are sniped almost every time if they choose to stay and farm there.

Why do people think this isnt a broken mechanic?? Everyone wants to raid others, but have free shields for themselves... A system in which offense and defenses are properly rewarded needs to happen. Putting 20% of loot in the TH would not fix loot, but it along with a few tweaks listed in this thread would go a long way.

Pushing things to an extreme level often shows the truth about things... What if every single base put their TH outside, all the time? This would be FarmVille, and very quickly, we would all be in the clouds waiting for people to logout to get sniped instantly... That game would be the silliest game ever...

Offense and defense already properly rewarded. You get trophies for that isn't ?

Don't make me laugh. Trophies? Trophies? ! Hahaha. As useless as clapping villagers. I have my town hall outside. Winning a defense ( like today at work ) meant I got to be hit again immediately after. Yeah ... I'll sleep soundly knowing I got some trophies. Then later I can kill my battery in an endless search for nickels. This game has gotten so bad it's not even funny.

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Originally Posted by Jcman

No one is forcing people to put their TH anywhere... Unless you mean economically, then yes it makes no sense to ever have your TH inside.

The fact is my clan of mostly th10s all put their Townhalls outside, most do it even while pushing once near champs. Even in champs, they are sniped almost every time if they choose to stay and farm there.

Why do people think this isnt a broken mechanic?? Everyone wants to raid others, but have free shields for themselves... A system in which offense and defenses are properly rewarded needs to happen. Putting 20% of loot in the TH would not fix loot, but it along with a few tweaks listed in this thread would go a long way.

Pushing things to an extreme level often shows the truth about things... What if every single base put their TH outside, all the time? This would be FarmVille, and very quickly, we would all be in the clouds waiting for people to logout to get sniped instantly... That game would be the silliest game ever...

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I have never said the economy isn't broken. Once a game is freemium something is broken.

It makes sense to SuperCell economically that players have their TownHalls inside. The players that pays a premium never put their townhall out. And now you suggest that SuperCell change the game so it is possible to farm while you have it inside. Why buy gems if you can afford everything while you play the game the way you are used to?

Or did I miss something here? Maybe you want other players that have not reached your level to slow down or stop their farming all togeter? Or do you just want their THs inside so you can ride their storrages that used to be well filled but wont be anymore since it would be impossible to save up resources?

Been away. Have I missed any announcements or even a post from SC?

Yeah, but that's how the game was initially intended to be played right ? Gaining trophies. I don't know what or when it went off-course but now it seems trophies become the least important thing. If something should be done about it, this game will need total overhaul, not patches here and there. It will be very different game. And that can not be done overnight. I don't want to side with anyone, but think if you're Supercell, and your game is played quite differently, how you're supposed to correct it ?

it's like you're a smith and one of your customer is back to you, want you to do something about this knife he bought from you. And it's broken. Because he used it as a screwdriver. What can you do ?

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Originally Posted by Ratbark007

Been away. Have I missed any announcements or even a post from SC?

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Lololol,,,,Good One !

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Originally Posted by BoardGuest808888

Yeah, but that's how the game was initially intended to be played right ? Gaining trophies. I don't know what or when it went off-course but now it seems trophies become the least important thing. If something should be done about it, this game will need total overhaul, not patches here and there. It will be very different game. And that can not be done overnight. I don't want to side with anyone, but think if you're Supercell, and your game is played quite differently, how you're supposed to correct it ?

it's like you're a smith and one of your customer is back to you, want you to do something about this knife he bought from you. And it's broken. Because he used it as a screwdriver. What can you do ?

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You make it such a good knife no one would dream about using it as a screwdriver.