The NEW one and only loot is good or bad thread

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

My facts are straight. Level 11 came the same day TH 9 was introduced. Mines do not need to be exclusive to th9 to be for it's benefit. They were put in place to feed the new town hall from the THs it raided from. Judging from the release notes for TH9 can easily be inferred those collectors were for th9s benefit.

Town Hall level 9 added!

• New defensive turret: the X-Bow! This weapon shoots bolts of Elixir with a super fast rate of fire.
• New spell: Jump! Boost your troops over enemy Walls. Upgrading the Jump Spell allows even Giants and P.E.K.K.As to jump over Walls.
• P.E.K.K.A has a fearsome new look that can be unlocked by upgrading her to level 3.
• New upgrade levels for Cannons, Mortars, Wizard Towers, Spell Factory, Mines, Collectors and Storages.

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Your missing the point: production remains the same for TH7, TH8 and TH9 - 432K a day. TH10 gets a slight boost to 500K a day. The cost to max a th7 is around 70mil. It is over a bil to max both TH9 and TH10.

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

Do better collectors mean better storage raids? Those storages can empty out quicker leaving less to be taken from them for a longer period of time. Bigger collectors mean you can power raid to empty those storages sooner.

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This makes no sense what so ever. We already know what happens when production gets pumped up: from the one gem boost events. I think most people would say the storage raids are a whole lot better while the one gem boost is going on. Are you arguing that storage raids are terrible during that period?!

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

Hey, neat. You finally got lucky after nexting through these:

http://s21.postimg.org/ifbm8mf5j/image.jpg

So how many nexts did it take to hit the jackpot?








:rolleyes:

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LOL, yep. I actually did pretty good farming today. But it was all dead base raiding. And having to hit next over 50-60 times. Just constant nexting through guys with 20-40K of each lol. BORING!

I don't come here often so can someone give me insight into the loot complaints?

1. Is this stuff just coming from TH9/TH10 players?

2. Are people who complain that the BARCH method/picking off collectors doesn't bring in loot dead set on that strategy or is going for storages also ineffective?

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Originally Posted by Beancounter

We already now what happens when production gets pumped up: from the one gem boost events. I think most people would say the storage raids are a whole lot better while the one gem boost is going on.

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Exactly.

Increased collector production = Better storage raids

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

Hey, neat. You finally got lucky after nexting through these:

http://s21.postimg.org/ifbm8mf5j/image.jpg

So how many nexts did it take to hit the jackpot?








:rolleyes:

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Rofl found a loot like that after 20min of nexting. By the time I found it I was probably 100k down. And the good news is I get to next again right after that raid because my loons were finished again. Pretty ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by DK91

I don't come here often so can someone give me insight into the loot complaints?

1. Is this stuff just coming from TH9/TH10 players?

2. Are people who complain that the BARCH method/picking off collectors doesn't bring in loot dead set on that strategy or is going for storages also ineffective?

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You're playing a competitive game against dead players. That's the problem. Yes this is strictly th9/10

How are you going to barch farm a fully upgrade th10? Heck you won't even get 50% for the league bonus with barch unless you are against a flawed base.

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

Exactly.

Increased collector production = Better storage raids

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LOL, what else is going to fill up stores? The loot fairy? Coathanger seems to think that stores just naturally fill up and collectors dont generate 95% of all the loot in the game.

You just can't boost production for active players - like from the league bonus. Otherwise, only highly active players will have decent loot in stores. People who are online a lot, and probably have their TH outside - LOL!

If you want plentiful stores raids then you have to increase loot production across the whole population. Like what happens with the one gem event!

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

That seems to be an untestable hypothesis though, and it doesn't really fit in with their own narratives. If they kept such a tight grip on loot like that, why do they never use that to compensate for post update loot? In fact, this should be done autmotically if you're correct. Personally I find a hyper-controlled flow of inactives to be relatively implausible.

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Actions speak louder than words, take for example clan wars, i could of sworn part of the narrative was to increase loot.
I honestly cant remember the last "real" injection of loot to this game. Wait nevermind townhall 10's got an extra mine/collector, but that didnt really affect overall loot if just added a few drops to premature townhall 10's who hide behind infurno towers. So that is technically an injection of loot, but would another collector/mine/drill level really throw the loot situation that out of w♥♥♥♥?

I guess in the back of thier heads the rational is they capped everything at 8mill and along the way they reduce prices on new levels, which isnt horrible its just insanely hard to get high level walls and they want to keep it that way. I bet they do listen to these forums and were concerned people were able to farm lvl10 & 11 walls (which is insane btw) so they implemented thier newest ploy to "help" loot by making walls "easier" to farm for which in reality really just mean "harder"

btw if supercell has control of inactive like the other poster said, they defenatly would not automatically compensate after post update. They need to throw us off the scent of this conspiracy some how, right?

ps, this isnt a bash supercell comment, i love this game with or without loot, and i like clanwars, i just hate the headache it has cause with many many many many ummmm way too many clans for not having an opt in and out feature.

apperently you cant say wha ck in these forums ???

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Originally Posted by zachUVA

That seems to be an untestable hypothesis though, and it doesn't really fit in with their own narratives. If they kept such a tight grip on loot like that, why do they never use that to compensate for post update loot? In fact, this should be done autmotically if you're correct. Personally I find a hyper-controlled flow of inactives to be relatively implausible.

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It is all untestable! But as a programmer it would be pretty easy to do.

Take the loot blues post update. SC could be managing the total loot available in game. On average the player activity stays pretty constant. So their program is balancing it out.

Then along comes the update, a bunch of people log back in, everyone spends there stores and starts attacking. The loot pool is the same size as before, just a lot more people fighting for it. Loot plummets. So SC slowly starts to release more inactives. You can already see that now. Nexting 50-60 times until a dead base raid comes up.


LOL, why do you think SC always says they are monitoring things! They are tweaking that search queue to control the loot flow. Now, where is my Tin Foil hat!

Edit: Remember the whole system has trouble dealing with huge spikes in demand - player activity. It takes time for loot to trickle out from inactives to start filling up stores.