The NEW one and only loot is good or bad thread

wow! you guys must suck at clash dont complain i farmed 22 lavas in one week. get on my level,.

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Originally Posted by carlito

Elixir for walls did not kill the economy. We must remember that gold has always been used for walls and gold intake kinda sucked before the update!

The rate at which we spend resource is not the problem - the way in which we acquire it is. Giving elixir an additional purpose was good because eventually lix became next to worthless. We need a way to acquire more resource and this should not rely solely on collectors and loot in player bases becasue as a lot of us are experiencing, that is not enough to support us.

Collectors do not give much in relation to upgrade cost and player bases are increasingly dry because, yes, we can sink spare resource into walls before logging off - but players have been doing that with gold for a long time...so that mechanism should not the be the focus of what we want to see changed. If it is, the gold will remain in drought and lix will go back to being useless for an increasing number of players (more and more of us are maxing out TH10)

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To add to this, i simply dont see where the Elixir for walls idea came from...
the glaringly obvious method of using what was once a useless resource should have been to change nexting to elixir and not gold.

Perhaps im missing something?

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Originally Posted by comfirm

wow! you guys must suck at clash dont complain i farmed 22 lavas in one week. get on my level,.

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66mil in a week is pretty average. We have people that do 200mil/week. Check our clan website for statistics.

Go up to masters league. 1 in 2 searches gives me a 100k+ raid. 3 in 10 give me a 200k+ raid. Sure it's harder to obtain the loot but you can still get plenty up here. :)

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Originally Posted by comfirm

wow! you guys must suck at clash dont complain i farmed 22 lavas in one week. get on my level,.

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That's low. Should be 4 lavas a day at least for non-gemmers.

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Originally Posted by carlito

Elixir for walls did not kill the economy. We must remember that gold has always been used for walls and gold intake kinda sucked before the update!

The rate at which we spend resource is not the problem - the way in which we acquire it is. Giving elixir an additional purpose was good because eventually lix became next to worthless. We need a way to acquire more resource and this should not rely solely on collectors and loot in player bases becasue as a lot of us are experiencing, that is not enough to support us.

Collectors do not give much in relation to upgrade cost and player bases are increasingly dry because, yes, we can sink spare resource into walls before logging off - but players have been doing that with gold for a long time...so that mechanism should not the be the focus of what we want to see changed. If it is, the gold will remain in drought and lix will go back to being useless for an increasing number of players (more and more of us are maxing out TH10)

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Well the point was you could use 10 dragons/5 pekkas expensive purple troops for every coin of that 150k gold before the update.
Now you can only giant/barch half that gold cause you ain't 3 starring that base with that army.

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Originally Posted by Keywal

To add to this, i simply dont see where the Elixir for walls idea came from...
the glaringly obvious method of using what was once a useless resource should have been to change nexting to elixir and not gold.

Perhaps im missing something?

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Lix for next is great for farmers...Not so good for players hunting cups. The average player runs out of elixir if they push their trophies AND try to remain active. So, although I do not hunt cups, I think your suggestion would not work for a large community of players.

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Originally Posted by xDee

Well the point was you could use 10 dragons/5 pekkas expensive purple troops for every coin of that 150k gold before the update.
Now you can only giant/barch half that gold cause you ain't 3 starring that base with that army.

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Yes you could cook stronger armies. You still can, you just cant do walls at the same time. Barch is one of the most efficient armies in the game. If you cooked dragons all day before the update and I cooked barch, I would bank more resource than you - UNLESS we were playing in Masters 2+ Then i'd be using loons.

My point is that whilst i 100% agree that elixir is hard to come by and that limits people's army composition in a lot of cases, the elixir for walls situation is not the real cause. Loot WAS NOT fine before they made this change...

A more fundamental change is needed to the economy, one that is not simply limited to stopping people having an outlet for the resource. "We have lots of elixir in the system because lots of people have no way to spend it" is not a fix. We need more "reliable" income streams....

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Originally Posted by Wichitawesome

You become ignored and unimportant.

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the opposing end of goodwill is money.

Loot is good as long as u know where to find it. If u go down to the low silver leauge u can find many bases with full collectors and some in the storages if u r patient enough to keep hitting next. Of course u will also find th 5 and 4 in there with loot like 1000 so just hit next till u find something good

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Originally Posted by carlito

Lix for next is great for farmers...Not so good for players hunting cups. The average player runs out of elixir if they push their trophies AND try to remain active. So, although I do not hunt cups, I think your suggestion would not work for a large community of players.



Yes you could cook stronger armies. You still can, you just cant do walls at the same time. Barch is one of the most efficient armies in the game. If you cooked dragons all day before the update and I cooked barch, I would bank more resource than you - UNLESS we were playing in Masters 2+ Then i'd be using loons.

My point is that whilst i 100% agree that elixir is hard to come by and that limits people's army composition in a lot of cases, the elixir for walls situation is not the real cause. Loot WAS NOT fine before they made this change...

A more fundamental change is needed to the economy, one that is not simply limited to stopping people having an outlet for the resource. "We have lots of elixir in the system because lots of people have no way to spend it" is not a fix. We need more "reliable" income streams....

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It's wrong that the only efficent farming armies are Barch and loonion. Its dull, especially barch, what a boring way to raid! 1 star every time, outside buildings only, dull, awful, next next next, dull dull dull.

And the reason for this is the economy, no -one wants to spend big on strong interesting army comps to 3 star a base when you end up with a net loss of resource.

Reason? Because the game is fundamentally about raiding other bases so you can build your own, and when you change it so that the resource you use to build troops is the same as the resource you use to build your base then no-one is going to raid with a great 3 star army anymore.