The NEW one and only loot is good or bad thread

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Originally Posted by andrgin

Making nexting cheaper will only make things worse. The Problem at the Moment is not the Gold you spend on nexting, but the time. It is simply not fun nexting 100 times for each attack to get one big raid. Also it would be unfair because users with faster devices will benefit more from it.

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I can understand on both those points. I don't next a lot just because of the time it takes.

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Originally Posted by andrgin

Making nexting cheaper will only make things worse. The Problem at the Moment is not the Gold you spend on nexting, but the time. It is simply not fun nexting 100 times for each attack to get one big raid. Also it would be unfair because users with faster devices will benefit more from it.

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I honestly don't see nexting cheaper is much of a advantage or disadvantage to the economy here. yes you could potentially save some but I don't think it would be enough to make a difference. Lets face it they are not gunna make the next button cost one gold. lol

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Originally Posted by badfish1979

It doesn't matter what the number is of current active players. Just because every single active player does not use the forums - it does not mean that the majority of current active players are not experiencing a problem with low available resources.

Again, you are making assumptions.

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It does matter what the numbers are. SC has the data to support whether or not there is a problem. SC's inaction supports the arguments against overall bad loot based on those numbers.

SC want's you to enjoy the game. Have faith.

Next...;)

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Originally Posted by Beancounter

Then just delete the forum and be done with it. Since people posting is such a small portion of the total player base. Who cares what 1300 posters think out of 30 million.

Might as well just ignore every poll you see in real life too. I mean honestly, how can the views of a few people actually reflect the views of an entire nation........

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The 'polling' of the forums is not a scientific poll unlike the polls you reference.

The polling of the forums is also not indicative of the clash community as a whole. There are greatly under represented portions of the clashing population.

Next...;)

Could this game stand on it's own two feet if there were hypothetically no inactive bases in the game? If the answer is no then I think you have a loot problem.

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Originally Posted by Freakimus

If loot gets boosted, I don't think it will help the economy much as people will still dump the excess into walls, making raiding even that much harder and all the bases still being low on loot. Walls will go up even faster, making even barching harder, compounding the problem we have now.

So.... Cheapen the cost of building troops across the board and the cost of nexting without increasing the the overall loot would have a better impact on the economy....imo.


Discuss.

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Since it is mainly the lower level walls (lvl 8 and below) that most people dump excess resources into, I still think the idea of giving a discount on bulk wall upgrading (at the lower levels such as level 6 or 7 walls where walls only cost 75k-200k) would encourage people to save up resources in their storages instead of dumping it every time they got an extra 200k or 500k.

More resources sitting in storages = better loot for raids.

For instance, a 5% discount for bulk upgrading 10 or more walls at a time would mean you would save 100k (or 200k with a 10% discount) on every 10 walls. But you'd have to save up 2 million gold or 2 million elixir to pay for 10 level 7 walls, instead of dumping 200k at a time into single walls.

Loot is worse than ever. Its just terrible. Farmed 500k today.

if that was the case, we would all be playing the final level of the single player mission which gives 800K each over and over again for an easy full storages withing a few hours.. do you see why now?

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

It does matter what the numbers are. SC has the data to support whether or not there is a problem. SC's inaction supports the arguments against overall bad loot based on those numbers.

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Actually it does nothing of the sort.

Do you know for a verifiable fact that they are not working on a new loot system ?

All we know is that Supercell is "monitoring" the situation

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

My argument is not that loot is good for every clasher, loot is not bad for all clashers.
Doesn't need to prove loot is good. It only needs to disprove the assertions that everyone is experiencing this.

You say loot is bad for everyone.
I say here is a pic showing loot is not bad.
You are wrong.

You say everyone nexts to much.
I post a video showing minimal nexting.
You are wrong.

Point if you want your point to get across stop using fallacious arguments as evidence.

Next...;)

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I never said loot was bad for everyone (you seem to have a thing for straw man arguments, don't you?). I am merely stating the fact that loot is bad for me, as well as many other people reporting similar results.

Next...;)

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Originally Posted by Coathanger

It does matter what the numbers are. SC has the data to support whether or not there is a problem. SC's inaction supports the arguments against overall bad loot based on those numbers.

SC want's you to enjoy the game. Have faith.

Next...;)

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So just because Supercell has not yet taken any official action to address the problem, the problem does not currently exist? Argumentum ad ignorantiam.

Did the problem of hogs being OP in Clan Wars exist before Supercell took action and nerfed them?

Next...;)


BTW - I sure am enjoying these 1-gem boosts. I was experiencing really bad loot for a while, but these 1-gem boosts are helping :D

if they already know the maintenance time then they should have make 1 gem for few days just like the event couple weeks ago, as that really helps the loot problem :)