New Anti-Dragon Strategy?

Is there a new anti-dragon layout theory going around that I haven't heard of?

During the last CW my clan was in, there were mutliple opponent layouts that featured what would be best described as a "shell" of buildings around the outside of the core base. Here is a screenshot of one of them:

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(I tried like crazy to get this to be larger in the post, but I couldn't get it to work... please click for full size, lol)

When a couple of clan-mates attacked this guy (me included), the dragons wandered around the outside, following the line of buildings on the perimeter until they came within range of the ADs. At that point, the AD's kept hitting them while the dragons kept going after the outside buildings.

Is this a known anti-dragon strategy? If not, do you think this is a viable strategy? I've messed around with my layout a bit in the editor and I've been able to incorporate it into a few designs, but I'm worried that a radical idea like this could be just a fluke.

Thoughts?

It actually works. Dragons are stupid, so all you really need to do is distract them. I personally tend not to drag bases like that.

it would work vs dumb attackers who mass deploy blindly. any smart attackers would use 2-4 drags or 20 archers to clear the surrounding buildings to manipulate the dragons AI towards the core. Looking at the base in the OP, its extremely susceptible to dragon attack from northeast.

That design is absolute poo. Easy 3 star even with level 1 dragons to be honest.

Use archers on a building on the left and on the right. Then place one drag on the left and one on the right. Then spread out the rest of your drags in the center. Always use 3 rage spells when using all drags. When I was a th7 I used this strategy when facing th8's with lvl 5 air d. I always got 3 stars. Sometimes I use hogs with one healing spell if one air d is close to the outside walls then drags and rage. Always bring archers. 10 archers, 6 hogs, 8 drags + 1 drag in my cc. Or 20 archers, 9 drags + 1 in my cc.

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Originally Posted by Karuo

That design is absolute poo. Easy 3 star even with level 1 dragons to be honest.

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If you think so.

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Originally Posted by willyteedman

it would work vs dumb attackers who mass deploy blindly. any smart attackers would use 2-4 drags or 20 archers to clear the surrounding buildings to manipulate the dragons AI towards the core. Looking at the base in the OP, its extremely susceptible to dragon attack from northeast.

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Most CW attacks I see against me are unskilled Mass Dragon attacks.

The layout I fiddled around with looks like this (sorry for the horrible pic quality, I had to take an actual photo of my device to get it):

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Now, I'm all for radical layout concepts and everything, but they still have to actually work properly. This one just feels so..... wrong! 1 star is obvious, but in CW if you're 1-starring, you're losing.

Is this something that can could actually be successful in CW?

it depends on the quality of your attacker.

Its pretty common practise in our clan for those using mass drags to use heros/archers to clear one side of most, if not all of the outer buildings before deploying drags.

otherwise, they will wander around killing collectors and builder huts while you shout at them not to lol.

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Originally Posted by Niles28

If you think so.



Most CW attacks I see against me are unskilled Mass Dragon attacks.

The layout I fiddled around with looks like this (sorry for the horrible pic quality, I had to take an actual photo of my device to get it):

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Now, I'm all for radical layout concepts and everything, but they still have to actually work properly. This one just feels so..... wrong! 1 star is obvious, but in CW if you're 1-starring, you're losing.

Is this something that can could actually be successful in CW?

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have fun with ur plan hoping to get matched up vs horribad opponents rather than build a good anti drag base.


wow ur base design is ridiculously bad as an anti dragon base. like 1.5/10

all 3 of ur AD is so ridiculously exposed. Not only is this base bad vs drags but its horribly vs any air.

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Originally Posted by Niles28

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Now, I'm all for radical layout concepts and everything, but they still have to actually work properly. This one just feels so..... wrong! 1 star is obvious, but in CW if you're 1-starring, you're losing.

Is this something that can could actually be successful in CW?

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This would be made short work of by a few hogs going straight to 1 ad, lightning other and then drags attacking close to remaining ad and then there will be 5 or more drags left at the end of a 3 star high five, you need to protect the ad much better

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Originally Posted by Sontaran

This would be made short work of by a few hogs going straight to 1 ad, lightning other and then drags attacking close to remaining ad and then there will be 5 or more drags left at the end of a 3 star high five, you need to protect the ad much better

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Pretty sure the hogs would get taken out by the time they get the AD down, unless you're using 20 of them, but that restricts the amount of dragons to use. Ligthing spells are a concern obviously.

I'm not so sure it's THAT bad against dragons, but yeah, bad against any other air attacks.
Would moving the ADs closer to the core help any? There's room to spread out the mortars and fit them in. My only thought about that is that there's no real point in having the dragons do a lap if they aren't going to be getting attacked. Maybe using the buildings to steer the dragons to a specific spot??

I'm starting to think that there's no real way to make this work, but if anybody has any other ideas, I'm game for it.

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Originally Posted by Niles28

Pretty sure the hogs would get taken out by the time they get the AD down, unless you're using 20 of them, but that restricts the amount of dragons to use. Ligthing spells are a concern obviously.

I'm not so sure it's THAT bad against dragons, but yeah, bad against any other air attacks.
Would moving the ADs closer to the core help any? There's room to spread out the mortars and fit them in. My only thought about that is that there's no real point in having the dragons do a lap if they aren't going to be getting attacked. Maybe using the buildings to steer the dragons to a specific spot??

I'm starting to think that there's no real way to make this work, but if anybody has any other ideas, I'm game for it.

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6 hogs max needed, 1 to test for bomb after kaboom rest will go straight to ad and take out quickly. AD should be close to core ideally in range of wiz tower and mortars. You are right there is no point having them do a lap, this will only defeat a complete novice.

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Originally Posted by Sontaran

6 hogs max needed, 1 to test for bomb after kaboom rest will go straight to ad and take out quickly. AD should be close to core ideally in range of wiz tower and mortars. You are right there is no point having them do a lap, this will only defeat a complete novice.

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Thanks for the input. I had a feeling that there would be problems with it. The layout I use is much more conventional and I still get 3 starred by Mass Dragons in CW from time to time. I was just curious if there was a way to beat it, or just give it a shoulder shrug since a good Mass Dragon attack will 3 star pretty much any th8.

Thanks for the help! :)

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Originally Posted by Niles28

or just give it a shoulder shrug since a good Mass Dragon attack will 3 star pretty much any th8.

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This is not true. I mass dragoned a TH8 Pokeball (I was new to mass drags at that time) and found that Dragons literally circle the base when you spread your buildings out to push back spawn points and get killed easily. I only just scraped a 50% with my good old BK. Pretty much covered by the previous posters.

On a completely different topic, North 44 r poo.

Sorry OP, but that base is only anti-drag against people that don't know how to attack with drags. It's an easy 3*. The way to make an anti-drag base is to place your CC and hero's outside your base, then put you ADs in the mid/core. Obviously, this will make your base weaker against other attacks but as th8, it works because most th8 attacks and defenses are against mass drags.

easily countered if the dragons are deployed in a line on 1 side. The dragons will pretty much sweep the base through, because the dragons in the center always get their path cleared by the dragons to their sides. dragons deployed in a bunch will just need a little more luck. should still do the trick if they're against a base that weak though :/